Random question. If God created us through evolution, do you think he did that with angels too?

@TheAnalyticChristian

Ай бұрын

I don't think so. But that's not to say he didn't create them through some sort of process as well.

Dr . Willian could talk about MATTHEW 11,27 please ?

Yes. And he was sentenced to death by the Sanhedrin for doing so. Cloud Rider: Jesus claimed to be the Cloud Rider (Mt26:64, Mt24:30, Luke21:27, Mark13:26, Rev1:7). The Cloud Rider is God (Dt33:26, Ps68:32, Ps.104, Is.19). And the Cloud Rider is said to be worshiped in (Daniel 7:13). Dt. 33:26 “There is no one like the GOD OF JESHURUN, who RIDES ACROSS THE HEAVENS to help YOU AND ON THE CLOUDS IN HIS MAJESTY. Ps. 68:32 O kingdoms of the earth, SING TO GOD; sing praises to THE LORD, Selah. To HIM WHO RIDES IN THE HEAVENS, THE ANCIENT HEAVENS; behold, he sends out HIS VOICE, HIS MIGHTY VOICE. Psalms 104 Bless THE LORD, O my soul! O LORD MY GOD, You are very great; You are CLOTHED WITH SPLENDOR AND MAJESTY. He wraps HIMSELF in light as with a garment; HE STRETCHES OUT THE HEAVENS like a tent, laying the beams of HIS CHAMBERS in the waters above, making THE CLOUDS HIS CHARIOT, walking ON THE WINGS OF THE WIND. Isaiah 19 Behold, the LORD RIDES ON A SWIFT CLOUD; He is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt will TREMBLE BEFORE HIM, and the hearts of the Egyptians will melt within them. Daniel 7:9 “THRONES were set in place, and THE ANCIENT OF DAYS TOOK HIS SEAT. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. HIS THRONE WAS FLAMING WITH FIRE, and its wheels were all ablaze. Daniel 7:13 and there before me was one LIKE A SON OF MAN, COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN. HE APPROACHED THE ANCIENT OF DAYS and was led into his presence. HE WAS GIVEN AUTHORITY, GLORY AND SOVEREIGN POWER; all nations and peoples of every language WORSHIPED HIM. HIS dominion is an EVERLASTING DOMINION that will not pass away, and HIS KINGDOM is one that will never be destroyed. Mark 13:26 At that time PEOPLE WILL SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with GREAT POWER AND GLORY. And HE WILL SEND HIS ANGELS and gather HIS ELECT from the four winds… Luke 21:27 At that time they will see the SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY. Mt. 24:30 “Then will appear the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IN HEAVEN. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN, WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY. Revelation 1:7 Behold, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen. Mt. 26:64 Tell us if you are the Messiah, the SON OF GOD.” …Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on YOU WILL SEE THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE MIGHTY ONE AND COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN.” Then the HIGH PRIEST TORE HIS CLOTHES and said, “HE HAS SPOKEN BLASPHEMY! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, NOW YOU HAVE HEARD THE BLASPHEMY. What do you think?” “He is WORTHY OF DEATH,” they answered.

In Andrew Loke's new book "Studies on the Origin of Divine and Resurrection Christology" page 30 he says the terms Paul uses for seeing Jesus "are not ambiguous with regards to the nature of the seeing when they are used with reference to persons with bodies (such as Jesus) within a certain context." Refutation: Paul does not specify whether these "appearances" happened *before or after Jesus was believed to be in heaven.* Without that important bit of context, the nature of the appearances in Paul's letters still remains ambiguous.

@JM-jj3eg

21 күн бұрын

Paul did not write a biography of Jesus - luckily many others did around the same time, and four of them survive to this day.

@theresurrectionexpert

21 күн бұрын

@@JM-jj3eg Paul is our earliest source. He's the only one written from a firsthand perspective - "Jesus appeared to me." And he's the only one who claims to have met Peter and James, something which the gospels never claim to do. Therefore, Paul's testimony is more important than any later anonymous biography.

Could you just give Dr. Craig a break? What's the point going after him like this with these clickbait titles? Why not critique other scholars as well? Dr Craig has really helped me on my Christian journey.

@legendsplayground7017

Ай бұрын

The other scholar seems to be Andrew Loke, he's a Christian philosopher as well. :)

@TheAnalyticChristian

Ай бұрын

I sense some frustration in your comment. I’m glad that Dr. Craig has helped you on your Christian journey. He has been a tremendous help to me as well. These videos are not intended to tell people that Dr. Craig’s work is of poor quality and would not be beneficial for them to read, watch, and think through carefully. In fact, the opposite is true. The whole reason I’ve made these videos is because I take Dr. Craig’s work seriously and want to think carefully about his arguments, and I want others to do the same. So, I don’t think I am “going after Craig” if by that you mean trying to take him down. Again, I respect him and his work and I want others to do the same. Obviously many of my videos in this series critique parts of Dr. Craig’s arguments. Notice though that when this is the case, my guest provides almost always provides a way of *strengthening* the argument or providing an alternative argument that is stronger. So, those who watch the videos in this series should see it as a way of building upon and improving the work of Dr. Craig. As for your claim that I have used clickbait titles, I don’t agree. Clickbait occurs when the video you clicked on does not provide what the video title states that it will. My videos don’t do that. I give what the title promises. So why do you consider my titles “clickbait”? Lastly, you ask if I can just give Dr. Craig a break? There is one more video in this series of interviews, that I will be posting at the end of June. Once that is posted I will invite Dr. Craig on to respond to the critiques in these videos. That will be the end of the series if he accepts. If not, the last video in this series will be the one I post at the end of June. I have no plans to making more responses to Dr. Craig after that. So yes, within a month I will no longer be making these sorts of videos.

@minor00

Ай бұрын

I am greatly indebted to Dr. Craig for his work and the character he displays. At the same time, as I have gone deeper into studying many issues he addresses, I have realized that he presents a stronger case for some things than others. Additionally, I find many popular apologists repeat his arguments with considerably less nuance and a lack of deeper understanding of the topic (in stark contrast to Dr. Craig). I don't think Dr. Craig will feel attacked since these videos are simply a simplified scholarly peer review of his work in a video format. If he has the availability I am sure he will try to respond. Also, I think this channel is not like many other apologetic channels, in that it is has more advanced and often more up-to-date content being published. The discussions often cover ideas and details I have rarely ever heard on any other channel. If you are not interested in the academic-side of the discussions then it may not be the channel for you yet, until you are ready to investigate the arguments deeper. At the same time though, I think Jordan certainly does his best to get the speaker to simplify and clarify things without significantly hindering the flow of the discussion. Finally, I do disagree that this title is clickbait (in agreement with Jordan's definition). Even if you think the video title gave you a different impression of what is contained in the video than what you expected based on the title, it doesn't mean it was necessarily titled with the intent to wrongly deceive people. Finally, people who seek to provide videos that build up the church to think more deeply about their beliefs and also are supporting their family off income from KZread videos should certainly be given more grace in their video titles and more financial support IMO (especially if they are seeking to honor Christ on KZread by not wrongly deceiving people through clickbait titles).

@TheAnalyticChristian

Ай бұрын

@@minor00 thank you very much for the kind words! I’m glad you’ve found my channel helpful.

@legendsplayground7017

Ай бұрын

@@TheAnalyticChristian it's really hard to get books about Classical theism in my place, may I know is there any other way(like free books on certain website that's legal) to study theism? I would like to learn about more about how theist view morality, Cosmological argument, and answer to questions like modal collapse, God being unchangeable entails God necessarily create the world and so on... I only got several pieces of information from watching videos and they seem really hard to fit together :)

And i wish that talk about "i and father are one "

Here are some verses that refute the idea that Jesus was viewed as God in the earliest Christian sources. 1 Cor 11:3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, *and the head of Christ is God.* This text presents a hierarchical structure where Jesus is subordinate to God. 1 Cor 15:25-28 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. *When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.* Being made "subject to" God obviously means he's _not_ God. Mt. 9:8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; *and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.* The text says God "gave" the authority to forgive sins to the man Jesus, making a clear distinction between the two. Acts 2 refers to Jesus as a "man" and a prophet who was exalted by God. Acts 2:22-24 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. Acts 2:30-33 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. For more, see J.R. Daniel Kirk's A Man Attested By God.

He claimed all the contrary