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Great reviews. Thank you so much for your work.

Hey! Du lieferst echt immer wieder auf den Punkt, lieber RCSchim! Genau vor einer Woche dachte ich mir, es wäre doch schön mal wieder nen Antennentest von dir zu sehen! xDD Dankee! 🙂

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Dank dir! Vor einer Woche waren die meisten TestFlüge schon gemacht. Vielleicht hast Du die "Erschütterung der Macht" gespürt oder so ;)

@WildpixFPV

Жыл бұрын

@@Rcschim FPV fliegen verbindet! - Dimensionsunabhängig! 😆

Great information here, thanks for putting this together! Cheers!

Great stuff Mario.

Wow, so much effort ! Thanks for this very helpful video, Mario. I got the confirmation that I have no need to change my 3-turn helicals. They work very good even when you make a turn behind yourself. Best greetings and : „yes - we learned a lot today“ 😁👏👏

Very data filled test. As with all antennas test. Great to see been awhile. And great video! Enjoy the day brother 💪💪👊👊

Awesome vid Mario, thanks for all the work!!

Well done! Thank you, Mario :-)

Starkes Video danke 🙏🏻 🔥🔥

Fantastic testing, Mario! Thanks a bunch! 😃 Soon enough I'm going to go digital... I'm not sure yet, but I'm tending to Walksnail (because I love micros). So, it's going to be really useful when I get antennas! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mario, walksnail is really good from what I hear! Happy flying, soon digitally, you will love it!

very informative video, thanks for sharing! also bought the 3 turn helicals from henrik when you first recommended them on your YT channel - i think they are great!

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, if you already have the 3turn - you cannot improve your range anymore ;) The X²AirII are nice because they make my goggles smaller for the backpack - but still way stronger signal than with just CrystalHD patches...

great job Sr!! i have the lumenier axii hd patch on my dji v1.... try this please jajaja

Great testing as always Mario. Sorry if i missed it in the video, how did you automate the logging of the bitrate of the video link? I have always manually log it but it takes a LOOOG time :D

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Oscar! Great to see you here in my comments. Don't be shy, come here more often ;) The goggles (v1 and v2, not so sure bout g2) record the SRT file. Normally I would have converted this SRT (subtitles) to an CSV file (be text replace makro). But the super cool online tool I've linked to does all this. But it is based on the OpenTX logfile first, and can then JOIN the SRT from DJI. Only downside: on longer flights, where SRT is split by DJI - you only get the first. Or you manually join the SRT files into one... Impressive stuff: the programmer joins the SRT file with time sync to the OpenTX Log. Try this yourself in Excel - it's a nightmare. But as I said, if you just want a quick look at the performance (of an antenna) you can upload it there and get the chart there easy without using excel yourself. Lately he added to option to change the X axis from normal index (count) to the GPS Distance. This is uber cool - because that was exactly my idea in excel (assign bitrate values to certain distances - and make averages). greets, Mario

What's your take on the maple wireless pro antennas

I've been flying with the patch on top and stubby's on the bottom. I'll switch them around to see if any better

My current all around setup: TrueRC x-air mk2 (1 piece occupies 2 RP-SMA ports) on one side 2x TBS Triumph (Old, LHCP in orange, RP-SMA) on the other TBO I'm just too lazy to (dis)mount 2 x-air mk2's............... and it felt pretty decent for my needs.

Truerc win, win, win 💪

I think I'll have to try some helical antennas on my goggles V2. thanks for the test results Mario!

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

yep, helicals are still the best. I was always surprised (in more than one test now) that my 7turn helicals are not that much better than the 3.5turn ones. Maybe the longer ones really start to shine at very long ranges? greets and thanks for coming over here for this vid, Mario

@serval_fpv

Жыл бұрын

​@@Rcschim Hi Mario from Scotland.. I'm assuming the death ray 5 turn would provide similar results if the 3.5 & 7 turn are similar? Keep up the good work ! 1 other thing do you have any videos of building a ground station as I fancy trying all the antennas on a stand / tripod instead of the V2 goggles..

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

@@serval_fpv Thanks and greets to Scotland! About groundstation: never tried one for DJI - because I think you'd need 4 extension cables for antennas if you wanna wear the goggles while flying. Cables mean loss... You could try to mount the goggles (with antennas) on a tripod and stream the contents to a seperate screen. Friend of mine just did something like this with 10" screen and a raspi HDMI setup. Sounded a bit overkill but works cool. If you are really curious shoot me a mail to rcschim@gmx.at and I will forward your question to my friend.

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

@@serval_fpv oh yes, and I suppose you're right - the 5turn might be quite similar. In theory the 7turn will be way better on the extreme end of a longrange flight (which I've never gotten to).

Great testing you’ve done there, keep up the good work👍🏻 I love my 3 turn Death Rays and don’t see how I could possibly improve on them. They work great for LR(out over 6 miles at low altitude), and with the 174° beam width they are not super sensitive to not being aligned perfectly, and work very well even directly behind you. Glad to see your testing makes them look like a great choice as well 😎

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, the only way to improve then might be a smaller footprint, that's why I will use the x2air2 now more often

@kevcdrone

Жыл бұрын

@@Rcschim Yeah, there’s got to be some trade off for the performance they give though I think. The 7 turns look too big, but the 3 turn just fit in the backpack nicely for me 😎 Happy flying

Concisely done 👍 perhaps some loss testings of the newly released lumenier universal adapter?

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

thanks, you mean the mmcx to sma adapter? I don't have the goggles 2. and I think if I'd use them - there's no SRT file on the new goggles, since it superimposes OSD in the video. maybe it works in DJI diy mode? and just doesnt do SRTs in O3 mode?

Thank you very much! Could you do the same research for walksnail avatar?

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Not sure if Walksnail loggs something like srt file to rec bitrate. Don't have the system. But my antenna tests should also apply for ws!

great stuff, i have three og antenna and one iflight stubby, what channel and antenna orientation should i use? hehehe, i have top right the iflight stubby, and just recently switched the vista up to 1000mw, i really hate putting that much power through the vistas, its gotta hurt them long term?

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

I think you should be fine. If I don't need max penetraition I stick with 700 imaginary units of power (which equal the legal 25mw)

thanks for one more awesome antennas test! 👏 I think X2-Air + Singularity is the best combination of performance and size/usability for v2 goggles. ...or 7 turns helical if you want best signal you can get

You should include the MenaceRC Pico Patch antennas in your test! Those are my go to antennas for analog and digital! Reasonable priced, well made and one of the best allround antennas on the market in my opinion!

In TrueRC i trust! love this brand, use only them for video and my radio

Any plans to test goggles 2 antennas??

Hi! What do you think about huge 150mm Maarten Baert's Triple Feed Patch 5.8GHz 14dBi Array antennas? I am currently using these for long range. They are really huge and I am not sure whether I am getting any additional range for that because I have nothing to for comparison. Could you, please test them?

@Rcschim

11 ай бұрын

I don't wanna buy them, and getting them for review isn't easy... You could try to capture test data like I do, send me the data and I can give you my opinion. You just need to setup telemetry logging on your radio. Srt file should be there anyways

Hello, RCSchim! Have you tried prodrone antennas (made in Poland)? I have heard people have a good experience with them.

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

I heard the name - but didn't test antennas from them yet. I will check their site...

Great video. i want to upgrade my dji fpv goggle antennas. Which in your opinion do you believe are the best under fcc? i'm thinking about true rc duality , or the X²-AIR 5.8 MK II PAIR FOR DJI FPV (COMBO). I'm asking since you're way more relevant to these stuff than me.

@Rcschim

11 ай бұрын

Thanks. the duality only make sense if you also fly the DJI FPV drone (the potatoe). Else I'd recommend the X2 Air combo you listed. If you're in EU region you could order it here over my afiliate link bit.ly/40WMf7H but since you write FCC I asume you're in the us. Buy it directly at TrueRCs store or a faster shipping US retailer... Since my tests I mainly use the X2air combo - they are so convenient and have great performance! before that I would always use the 3turn helicals - but they are larger... Make sure to also swap the VTX antennas on your plane / copter if you use DJI O3. The stock O3 antenna isnt that good - and the "singularity" antennas from TrueRC again are really good improvement. Sounds like a TrueRC fanboy now - but I really like Hugo's products!

@Cen0byte

11 ай бұрын

@@Rcschim I only fly the dji fpv potatoe, mostly at mountains, so i'll give them a try for better penetration. :)

Great comparison, always! I have AXII HD 2 Patch antenna on my DJI goggles v1. I was able to test it 3 weeks ago in Nevada. I think I was able to reach at least 3 miles which includes the top of the mountain. The signal went down to 35Mbps but I didn't see much lost in the quality of the video even if I was using AutoFocus to ON.

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

I think it goes down to around 30mbit quickly but the it will stay in this region forever. But it also scares me, if it is less than perfect 50 ;)

@neilfpv

Жыл бұрын

@@Rcschim yep haha, same here. You should check out my Nevada cinematic flight. Check it out and see my dive at the 3rd minute. I was very scared but it was so beautiful!

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

while we know our gear works (most times) the anxiety never goes away ;) especially if flying next to giant mountain walls. each little gust feels "letal" ;)

@neilfpv

Жыл бұрын

@@Rcschim Yep, I totally agree! I have a technique though. There is a little opening above my nose, below the DJI fpv goggles. If I get scared during flights(not freestyle), I look at the ground or I look at the radio since I can see it, HAHAHA! My fear goes away. But I only look at it for like max 2 seconds. 🤣

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I also use the little light leak hole above the nose to look at my radio or to make adjustments to my heads direction (am I looking at the right mountain?)

Great video my friend! I had Lumenier AXii HD2 but I sold my DJI FPV Goggles V1 last month. I'm going to buy DJI FPV Goggles V2 soon. I'm happy with my previous Lumenier AXii HD2 antenna. Is the TrueRC X2 Air better or they perform almost the same? The AXii HD2 cost way cheaper too.

@Rcschim

6 ай бұрын

The axii 2 should perform similar to the iflight Chrystal I've tested, so yes they will be a bit behind those truerc xair2... but just try it and see if you really need the range...

@neilfpv

5 ай бұрын

@@Rcschim Thank you!

I watched a Walksnail test the other day...out at 51kms....I don't think he had any of those antennas on his Ground Station...Great comparison video ...Im using True RCs on my Walksnail Goggles...😳😏🇬🇧

Interessant. Würde mich interessieren wie sich meine Eingenbau-Helicals da einordnen würden.

How many mw were you transmitting in all these tests? Also have you done a test for the stock ones?

@Rcschim

Ай бұрын

25mw if not stated other. And yes, there should also be stock antennas tested. Use the chapter marks

nice test mario, need your tango2 converter tool :)

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Ok, will link it tomorrow

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

check this vbscript: bit.ly/424nN5O it just replaces the first line so that the online tool understands the values from Tango2. With openTX radio's it just works directly from the SD card...

Just curious if the truerc x2 air are plug and play for the DJI fpv goggles?

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

yes, sure. They come with dualside advesive and you can either glue them directly to your faceplate. Or as I did: use a 3m Duallock hook tape to make it swappable (which I needed for my tests - now I would permanently tape them on because they are good!) they use 2 of your antennaports - the other 2 can be used with stubbies.

@smokingtrez

Жыл бұрын

@@Rcschim awesome! thanks for the reply the main reason I bought the antennas was because of your video👍👍👍

Have you tested X-Air (mkII) antennas as well?: they have 2 connectors per pair instead of 1 as is the case with the X2-Air antennas that you tested. My expectation is that the X-Air (mkII) will result in more range since all 4 antennas on the goggles are directional then.

@Rcschim

6 ай бұрын

No, only tested the x2 air... but they are my default setup now for over a year. Never needed to bother with antennas again ;)

@minaexperiment

3 ай бұрын

@@Rcschim Have you tried x2 on all ports? I have it now but i dont know if its better or worse than having only two. It feels very directional.

@Rcschim

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I have the x2air on all 4 ports as default setup since over a year now, works great!

@LIKEAWHATT

3 ай бұрын

​@Rcschim I am guessing you mounted them horizontal? To fit all 4

Nicely done! Would you be able to test another configuration, with one trueRC X2 at one side and 2 stubbies on the otherside?

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

not with the x2air - their cables are too short for this...

Nice real world testing to get away from what appears to be non-standardized manufacturer's data claims! I find it interesting that your 3.5 turn helicals beat out the X2Air2 set up midway through test yet hold on at the end. Do you have a hypothesis to explain that result? Also I want to add that apparently the receiving antennas on the DJI-V2 goggle are located on a diagonal. When wearing the goggles the upper right side and the lower left side are the receiving antennas. The others are the transmitting antennas. So your results suggest that both the reception and transmission are needed to give the best bit rates. Not surprising given that is the DJI system.

Nice test. It's hard to beat the helicals when you really need range. Per the comment about pagoda's not being as "omni" as the others, I feel like this is in your favor. Most of the time folks don't fly 1km straight up, and even if you do, it's perfect LOS, so probably won't have any issues.

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I agree directly above startpoint is not so important. But remember the pagodas are not mounted vertically on the goggles but in 4 different, weird angles... I've now added the TrueRC CP5 on top ports to the X²air2 as my default config. If I wanna go out very far, I'd take the deathrays with me.

@rcrdps8144

Жыл бұрын

@@Rcschim Other than looking cool, those weird angles probably help reduce the effect of the nulls. I still have my 5 turn death rays, and VAS Cyclops, but I haven't done any real antenna testing since I bought G2. Paired with O3, it goes further than I want to retrieve my quad. Maybe one day I'll get the itch to push it, but for now, I can do with G2/O3 what it took death rays to do on v1.

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

@@rcrdps8144 yep, that's what I hear from others as well ;) O3 seems to do really well even with very low signal. Rossers test (DJI vista, O3 and Walksnail) with variable attenuation is brilliant in showing this 60db attenuation and still going on O3 where others passed out ;) That being said I'll go out and fly now! greets

@serval_fpv

9 ай бұрын

Hi Mario so now you go with CP5 stubbies on top ports Xair patches on bottom ports ?

Jesus Christ man !its spooky in the man cave...the back wall looks like its covered with dead cats and giant insects ! 😳

@Rcschim

Жыл бұрын

I'm a dog person, so it makes sense to hang some feline buddies on the wall ;)