So glad you made this one JP, I could only watch I little bit at the beginning of the live so it was great to see that you made it. Honestly if this doesn't shut up those blokes, and they are always blokes, who say they can drive for hours non stop so they couldn't have an EV I don't know what will. We need to tell them that this car is not the only one that can do it, you'll know best if its be the best value one that can do it though. Loved the useful info about all the places you know too, that was great. 👍

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Thanks Jude , appreciate your comments 👍

My 22 plate Niro 4+ has 38k miles on the clock. On a sunny day like today it comes up as 333 miles of range at 100% and it certainly will get that in real life. This is a fantastic EV averaging nearly 6 miles per kWh when driven sensibly. And great comfort, practicality and versatility.

Watched most of the original. At a charger yesterday, and one of the diesel moaners pulled in beside me in his company MG5. 'I could drive 800 miles in my diesel van, keep having to stop to charge this....' etc I responded well it only takes me 30 seconds to charge, then I go for coffee, loo or snack. ' Well I have to get to jobs a long way..' As I unplugged I parted with 'well a friend of mine has a fleet of these doing mobile service and repair, thay do 50k miles a year , so you must not be doing it right...'

Considering the e Nero isn’t a ground up EV it’s a damn good car .👍

@richardhaywoodh

Ай бұрын

Yes amazingly it's more efficient than most ground up EVs

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

It's great isn't it 😊

@garysmith5025

Ай бұрын

The Hyundai Ioniq , similarly based on an ICE platform, is in a different league again. The Koreans seem to have efficiency sorted.

I think it’s a good thing, that the likes of the RAC & AA are offering an emergency EV top-up. Even with the period that the ICE has been around, drivers still run out of petrol/diesel.

Stating 5mpkWh in a £18k, 3 year old vehicle, makes a strong point that range anxiety is not a problem any more! Thanks for demonstrating this vehicle. I'm thinking of buying an E-Niro very soon!

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, the e niro as a used buy , WITH the remaining warranty ( 7 years from new ) this is the best all-round EV out there for £18k 👍

I got a bit worried when you spoke about your bladder range and then held up that bottle.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Haha 😄

OH has just done a 230 mile trip to London in our Niro 3 showing 270 miles at 100% when she set off. Said you should get there in one go but she is a little paranoid since she went into turtle on the M1 in our 30 Leaf and just made it to the rapid. Spoke last night she arrived with 70 miles remaining and never bothered charging, all motorway apart from approx 50 miles of A & B roads. Will charge to 100% at on street charger outside her mums house at 11 kW. Confident she can get home without a charge stop. Was getting 6mpkwh last summer in those mid 20 temps. Brilliant car for economy considering its size and shape.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Thats great 👍

Fantastic job Jonathan. 3% left at the end is fantastic too.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and your comments 🙂

If you’re coming down this way again, there is a decent sized Fastned site at Hamilton. 1 junction before Hamilton svcs. It’s beside the retail park behind the trees adjacent to the motorway. Not had to use it myself yet as it’s only a few miles from me getting home, and I’ve never been desperate enough to need to crawl in on turtle.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

will check this out next time I'm 'south' !

My 23 plate Hyundai Kona charged up to 335 miles just after a 180 miles journey and at the moment I get 4.3 mi/kwh.

@JonathanPorterfield

27 күн бұрын

Nice 👍

Great video JP, thank you very much.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Thank you 😊 👍👍

On Sunday the A9 was closed at Calvine. I was in Kingussie charging and left at 90% charge in my Zoe 52Kwh to get back to Glasgow. Drove to Fort William thinking of top-up charging but I used Eco mode and B mode regen on the way. Got to Fort William and thought I may as well go to Crianlarich before charging up again. I got to Crainlarich and thought.... hold on, I can get back to Glasgow on what was left. Got to my flat in Glasgow with 23% left. So 67% used to go 160 miles because I wasn't on the A9 doing 60-70mph. WOW.

Great video mate. I need a wee now.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Haha , sorry mate 😅 🤣

Thanks so much for this video, I've just bought a 2021 kia niro, and this makes me feel that I made the right choice 😊

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

100% you've bought the right EV ✅️ 👏, enjoy 😉

enjoyed you're video. Just back from a weeks holiday in Orkney we also stopped in Helmsdale and just like the trip we did previous the fancy new toilets were closed so we used the ones in the village hall on the left as you drive in. I noticed the lower carpark next to the river had quite a few chargers and they were all free. Totally agree with your comment on La Mirage it is very good .

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Thanks Johnyboy 👍 😊 yes the lower car park has 2 rapids as well 😀 La Mirage is great, especially the lamp stand 🤪🤪🤪

@johnnyboy7459

Ай бұрын

@@JonathanPorterfieldThe small fish and chips was hanging off the plate and the lamp has nice legs.

Travel on the A9 from Essex to Nairn last week in my Model Y absolutely loved it such beautiful views especially coming off the A9 going though Aviemore and seeing all the passing point signs

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and your comments 🙂

As you know JP, we've been driving around in our German car on Orkney for a few days in foul weather. We're getting 4.4 miles/kWh and definitely not the ones overtaking on these Orkney roads. 🙂

I was trying to get 5 miles per kWh in my Leaf yesterday on the M62/60 Headwinds were insane though and only managed 4m/kWh. Can't decide whether picking up speed and cruising is better than driving slower but adding more high power to get up the hills periodically. I'll have to run some experiments.. 😊

Great fun video, JP, however the speed limit is 70mph on dual carriageway sections in the UK.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

I know , but being in Scotland i get a mind set of 60mph , and only hit 70 mph when im on motorways , which is central belt or M6 south !

I'll be getting a used E-Niro at some point. They are now readily available on the used market, approaching half the RRP. It's literally all the car I need, a car that will do an easy 200 miles in any conditions and 300 in good conditions.

I actually appreciate the bladder range updates as I think I have a similar range!

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

You around 60 years young too ?? 🤣😉

@MrSammotube

Ай бұрын

@@JonathanPorterfield Not yet, but certainly in training!

Great drive, glad I watched it as I hope to go from a Ford C-Max to a used E Niro... not sure about buying from Auction tho tbh.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Same place that Kia main dealers buy from 😉

My Niro EV doesn't give you a calculation on how many miles you've gains via regen, most upset. Great video, great scenery, great stop to spend a penny, I certainly love my Niro, currently getting close to 290 miles but not quite to the discipline as you're showing, I really do feel I can get 300+

Just done a near 400 mile trip to London in my new to me E-Niro. Very easy it was with no rapid charging for the weekend I was up there and a 150 mile recharge while we visited Harry Potter Studios.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Destination charging is the future 👌

Think I might have 'dived in' to Thurso leisure centre for a top up 😮

Great content as normal. I am considering a high mileage Eniro (125k miles) , had any experience of high mileage eniros, there longevity / battery degradation? I do have a 40kwh leaf at 105k miles so it doesn’t put me off high mileage cars. Thanks Rob

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

some e niro have a motor whine but Kia are replacing these under warranty , no questions asked. As regards degradation , with the 67kWh total , any degradation is masked until it gets to 64kWh total , so they have a 3kWh 'buffer' at the top of the battery.

300 miles = 482.8032 kilometers, can you add it for us continentals?

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Haha ok 👍

What an EV hero 😊

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

The e niro is , dunno about me , i just drove it !

Great video, I’m new to EV’s and purchased the exact same model as you and very happy with it. Can you confirm the miles your tripometer stated you did is what you actually did, as when I use Wase in mine the speedo over reads by nearly 10% so I assume the mileometer does the same? So that makes the 5.1 per kw read incorrectly also. Also that would mean a car with 100000 miles on the clock has only done 91000!

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Speedos always are set by manufacturers to read 10% more than actual speed, the miles covered are accurate. In the video you can see the total miles on the dash at the start and finish.

I covered a more modest 290 miles yesterday in a 13k mile Zoe ze50. On the London to Cardiff direction I set cruise to 60 indicated (less through roadworks) and achieved 4.52m/kwh and after topping up a bit, on the return leg slowed to 55 and achieved an indicated 5.0 m/kwh. What do you get in your Zoe Jonathan ?

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Nice , my zoe returns around 4.5 miles per kWh

Dear Mr P, Either your video editor needs a geography lesson or the regen control on the Kia is way more powerful than you say. You went from using regen to slow down at the Keir roundabout (just before Dunblane on the A9) to talking about the RAC man on the M74 about 60 miles or more behind you! That's quite an effect! Happily you then jumped forward again to the A9 roundabout before Perth... Don't take liberties with us - we know the roads - lol ;)

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

You've rumbled me 👍

Lots of thoughts about this. Anyone new to electric motoring has a learning curve of acquiring new driving techniques and adaptation. I have a Zoe and have not yet charged publicly in 10 months of ownership. I am still nervous about charging en route. Mainly can I make the connection work?

@DwaynePipes

Ай бұрын

Practice locally in a "safe" environment? Get confidence through that.

@decimal1815

Ай бұрын

I know what you mean. Had some cars pulling in front of me in charging queues which isn't nice when you just want a stress free journey. It's getting better though overall.

@ObiePaddles

Ай бұрын

@@DwaynePipesgreat advice. Fear of charging really is a paper tiger.

When Turtle mode came up what did you notice difference in the way the e-Niro drove?

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Non at all 👍

300+ miles while driving slow(ish) or 248 miles driving at 'not the speed limit'? I'll take the latter thanks! I'll be with those German cars tonking past but in my E-Niro! Its so efficient, I don't need to think about hypermiling it! I say 248 miles, because that is what it showed at the start of my journey but my bladder went at Birmingham so I took a charge at the open to all Superchargers while we ate and drank at Wetherspoons! I know Jonathan just did this to prove how far it can go on a charge but I could never do this - I love driving but long distance in the UK is a crappy feeling!

You don't need to set zero regen just don't lift right off! with max regen set you can dial in any level you want with your right foot.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

I find i get a 'dead leg' sitting for hours driving , so being able to lift right off and move my foot without losing speed i find zero regen best 👌

How are you getting that range I have a 71 eniro. I drive 90 mile commute on A90 doing 65 mph. Shows currently 3.9 mpkw. But I get239 miles currently

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

try driving in zero regen on long stretches of road , and check tyre pressures , i set mine to 40psi , really helps reduce rolling resistance

I didn't seen your wrong turn in the original stream, you're not the first to take the wrong turning for Ralia!

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Not just me then ! 😅

Can you do it in reverse… ? How much benefit from drafting behind the toilet truck?

@garysmith5025

Ай бұрын

If you mean from the North coast to Abington on one charge, then yes. I've done it a couple of times in a Kona, basically Hyundai's version of the eNiro. Not that it's necessary, I'd always stop a couple of times even if for just 10-15 minutes, enough to add another 100+ miles in total.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Drafting would mean me driving very very close to the trailer in front

@cwt5654

Ай бұрын

​@@JonathanPorterfield Could have been advantageous to drop back to avoid the turbulence....

Hi Jonathon. Always thought the speed limit was 70 on the dual carriageway sections. And I’m probably one of those types of drivers that tries to get past the HGV drivers on the limited dual carriageway sections. They can be ridiculously slow on some of the uphill sections (not their fault I know). Plus by the time I’ve reached the A9 I’ve generally been driving for 8 and a half hours so just want to get to the destination. Not over the limit obviously as it’s all average speed cameras. Rich

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Personally, overtaking on dual carriageways , doesnt really get you much further up the road , as you'll soon be behind another HGV 😉

@stephenparker5272

Ай бұрын

@@JonathanPorterfield I drive 30,000 miles a year, Herts, beds ,bucks and oxon, im 65 now and i fully concur with your comment. No point in speeding or over taking on any roads that are not motorways. Ive seen range tests on ev's on motorways but its always at 70mph, would be really interesting at 60mph.

I would leave a larger buffer of mileage as journeys have diversions and unforeseen circumstances. I know you are doing this for demonstration purposes but in reality there was risk of breakdown for a less skilled Ev drivers or less than smooth journeys.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

I missed dozens of Rapids on route , just to make a point 😊

Does the 4+ have heated and cooled seats ?

@contraplano3157

Ай бұрын

Yes.

@richardhaywoodh

Ай бұрын

Yes Front seats are Hested & Cooled and heated steering wheel rear outer seats are just heated

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Yes

@contraplano3157

Ай бұрын

In Portugal we do not have that option, we have to import from France or Germany

I get 49 miles per kWh when I'm driving through Doonhill

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

49 miles per kWh , wow thats 3136 miles with 64kWh battery , still not eneough range for some petrol heads 😂

Can you do it in reverse… ?

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Reverse gear ?

Variable video quality was a bit irritating 😠

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

It was a live stream and the 4G connection was very patchy !

No disrespect, but I cannot understand why people do this There are quite literally thousands of chargers all over the place....there is almost nowhere you can go, that doesn't have a charger on-route If you do have a car with a smaller battery, and have to stop anyway, instead of driving like miss daisy, belt away, turn the AC on, you will have charged back what was used up in a matter of moments

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

I did it to answer the drivers who dont think you can't drive 300 miles 'non stop' in an EV

A.R.C , Accurate Range Calculator

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Like it 👏👏👏

You should have charged. I noticed loads of vehicles taking you over you were blocking the road !

@garysmith5025

Ай бұрын

Have you ever driven the A9? It has average speed cameras for much of its length. You can drive like an idiot overtaking trucks at the slightest opportunity on one of the most dangerous roads in the country, if you're lucky you might get from Perth to Inverness in 2 hours. Or take the efficient, safe, low stress approach and arrive no more than 10 minutes later.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

I didnt hold ANYONE UP , yes some drivers overtook me , but i was keeping to the A9 speed limit ,as i dont want a fine !

@mbak7801

Ай бұрын

He was not blocking the road at all. If other cars want to overtake then fine. Their choice. Yes many choose to do so dangerously but that again is their choice.

@xperyskop2475

Ай бұрын

Doing 45-50 mph on A class road with a 60-mph speed limit with good road conditions and visibility, I will define as slow, and yes numpties will try and overtake you . The UK is missing German motorways. All we have is endless roadworks and average speed cameras everywhere.

@garysmith5025

Ай бұрын

@@xperyskop2475 Half the vehicles on the A9 are LGVs, vans, motorhomes or cars towing caravans, they all have a 50mph limit so that sets the overall speed for the road. It might have escaped your notice but Germany is surrounded by nine countries and doesn't have any areas of particularly low population density, so whichever direction you go there's always an economic reason for an autobahn, 90% of which have speed limits. The north of Scotland, the subject of this video, has one of the lowest population densities anywhere in Europe and does not need or want a motorway.

If you’re coming down this way again, there is a decent sized Fastned site at Hamilton. 1 junction before Hamilton svcs. It’s beside the retail park behind the trees adjacent to the motorway. Not had to use it myself yet as it’s only a few miles from me getting home, and I’ve never been desperate enough to need to crawl in on turtle.

@JonathanPorterfield

Ай бұрын

Will check that out next time I'm 'south' 👍👍😉