For the turbo nerds here is some more stuff I learned about the OLED display verifying my findings with some experts: -The pixels on this display aren’t what you’d see on a lot of traditional Pentile-type displays, which have double the amount of G subpixels compared to R and B (because your eyes are more sensitive to green). -The B subpixel area is twice that of either the R or G subpixel area. That is not a surprise: Considering that blue OLED decay is much faster than that of R or G, use of twice (or more) area on B enables half or less J (current density, mA/cm2), which reduces the B aging rate. -We were curious if the B subpixel pairs were independently driven or if Samsung cheated when making the panel and driving them together, effectively giving you 1080Ps worth of B pixels. An image was created with a single white pixel on a black background and we verified that the B subpixel pairs are independently driven with the microscope. -It was speculated that the screen might look weird because the blue pixels aren't on the same center line as the red and green ones. I looked at a totally green screen but the dirtyness was still there, making the screendoor effect theory more solid. -Part of the “dirtiness” is mediocre “Mura correction”. Since each individual pixel is emitting it’s own light on an OLED panel it is important that it is properly calibrated so the brightness of each pixel is the same. This information gets baked into the firmware of each individual OLED display, and if the calibration wasn’t done the whole thing would look horrible. -Certain vision astigmatisms will make you a lot more sensitive to pentile layouts, it is possible I'm just really sensitive to this and you might be fine. -These Samsung OLED panels are basically impossible to properly colour calibrate. There isn’t enough power to run the whole thing at max brightness, so the colours/brightness of the scene can change depending on the total power draw of the panel. -All of these artifacts are imperceptible if you’re about 2’ away from the display, but are noticeable at about 1.5’ (fairly typical for using a laptop). -I was able to see the individual subpixels with my naked eye on the XPS 15’s IPS display, but had to get uncomfortably close. Anyway, if there are any display nerds with more info hit me up @AlexTheGreatish, this was a fun little rabbit hole. -AC

@cho4d

4 жыл бұрын

very interesting read, thanks!

@TheJjjoj

4 жыл бұрын

To be clear, your eyes are most sensitive to yellow and yellowish green but your eyes detect differences in hue and saturation of red the easiest. Green is actually the subpixel color we can least detect differences in. This, combined with slower green subpixel decay, is the primary reason for Samsung's adoption of the specific RGBG pentile subpixel layout(not seen here). Red and blue decay much faster. This however does create a problem in that every color skews green. The hyper saturation of green is barely noticeable, if at all. Blue appears more cyan and red appears more orange. Fortunately, this display likely does not suffer this issue as it seems to be a true, but modified, RGB display.

@ashtonbrown4318

4 жыл бұрын

*ignore this im an idiot that doesn't know shit* Oled, (or maybe just amoled idk) screens have alot of smearing with blacks.

@djrt8179

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. As a photographer whose work is entirely dependent on color correction, I will make sure that this laptop isn't something to recommend.

@XDSDDLord

4 жыл бұрын

Pin this, please

The Pixel Layout needs to be in a video on LTT discussing screen quality. This was extremely cool.

@Corang98

4 жыл бұрын

A video comparing all of the different screen types and variations within those types would be awesome

@grachtschrap

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, hopefully this becomes something that they will always do for now on.

@ats1995

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!! At some point OLED only used two subpixel per pixels, resulting in basically just 2/3 of the "advertised" resolution. Also, _please_ add camera sensors to the mix as they only have one "subpixel" per pixel.

@ThePike220

4 жыл бұрын

this please

I love how almost every other host uses the LTT theme(I can’t remember the name) for audio testing, but Alex uses Crab Rave

@zakmorgan9320

4 жыл бұрын

Supernova

@nemureru_tanuki

4 жыл бұрын

he's man of culture

@abubakrakram6208

4 жыл бұрын

Ironically, Crab Rave is what I've been using for the past little while too. It was a little jarring seeing an LTT host do the same thing.

@pkaz12345

4 жыл бұрын

@@zakmorgan9320 ah, right. thanks!

@pkaz12345

4 жыл бұрын

@@abubakrakram6208 Yeah lmao. It has strong bass and treble, good for trying to listen to the range of a speaker

Alex: * casually brings out a microscope * Linus: "I do not understand the economic of this channel"

@pawala7

4 жыл бұрын

You're talking about the channel that spent ~$140k on RED 8k cameras and peripherals 3 years ago, only for them to be replaced later this year by 6 BlackMagic 12k cameras they got for ~$60k. A couple $100 on LCD microscopes is chump change.

@samyuj

4 жыл бұрын

once you buy them, you can use them indefinitely. doesn't add to the budget, also justifies buying stuff.

@ngdnhatanh

4 жыл бұрын

@@pawala7 It should be "invested" instead of "spent". Linus explained very well on TWS that there is just no way for them to lose their money on those Blackmagic. Those cameras can give them a ton of content or they can just flip them for profit

@rajeevarts398

4 жыл бұрын

@@pawala7 its a joke

@halkon4412

3 жыл бұрын

@@ngdnhatanh Gonna have to disagree. Their content doesn't look noticeably better than it used to, and they're never going to flip them because they're set on using them. So, that money was effectively wasted.

Alex: It has so many ports My old laptop: Oh really

@bensnow421

4 жыл бұрын

the hp envy 17 from last year had a dvd port in it which is wack for newer laptops, but much appreciated - I/O is something I wish we had more of

@haxorinator8219

4 жыл бұрын

I don't really see this as an issue though, especially for an ultrabook. In fact, its better than most ultrabooks and comes close to gaming laptops. it has 2 USB Type A (Mouse and Keyboard) An HDMI (External Display) 2 Thunderbolt (Multi-purpose - ethernet, HDMI, DP, USB, Serial, external GPU, UHS-3 SD readers) 3.5mm audio combo jack A Micro sd card slot (This I could see being near pointless...) IMO, this is miles better than VGA, DVI, Mini DP, HDMI 1.2/1.4, in thicker enclosures. You want to do real work as a photographer/videographer/cinematographer? Buy an external UHS-3 card reader and don't use the crappy USB 2.0 interface SD card slot in your laptop. You want to have low latency high speed internet for gaming or downloads or connection to NAS? Connect a 2.5Gb or 10Gb ethernet adapter to USB-C/thunderbolt. Need to connect a total of 3 monitors at 4K 60Hz for programming or editing? (The UHD 630 can do alone this without the 2060mq too, although most ports are configured to the dGPU). Use HDMI 2.0, and two USB-C/Thunderbolt to DP cables.

@djhokage1

3 жыл бұрын

Double thunderbolt on old laptops?

@syclone

3 жыл бұрын

@@haxorinator8219 Or instead of having to bring a trillion dongles with you just plug something into pre-built ports. As cool as USB C may sound it ends up combining many ports into one and having to bring extra stuff because the manufacturer cheaped out on development costs sucks and may prove difficult over time. Not mentioning the annoying replacement of barrel jack charger with usb c as well on many laptops noways, which is a plain downgrade from a freely-rotateable and very secure port. But oh well "progress" happens, just like the Win10 losing customisation functions of Win7 crap.

@al_kaloid

3 жыл бұрын

@@bensnow421 What's a dvd port? Something along the lines of an HDMI drive?

There is something odd about that display ... brings out a microscope. Thats why I like this channel.

@georgf9279

3 жыл бұрын

It's not the channel, it's the Alex.

@constantinmarcel2680

3 жыл бұрын

Well both :)

@hung14nguyen

3 жыл бұрын

Science FTW 🙌

2:15 Note for the editor: Maybe you can put the rated speeds of the USB ports on their listings? It's kinda hard to track what all the different names mean without a cribsheet to hand.

one of the best thing i like about this channel is that even though i can't afford these laptops ever, its quite satisfying to watch these reviews and unboxing

Someone has to say it, the same laptop with an AMD CPU would be much better.

@MirelRC

4 жыл бұрын

With no gimped cooling? YES!

@elliot_daniels

4 жыл бұрын

Yup

@smashedintopieces000

4 жыл бұрын

They've been saying this for months when the latest mobile ryzen chips were released

@jokingi

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@vivonno

4 жыл бұрын

Main complaint for 2020 in tech

Alex: "Can't complain too much" Obviously hasn't checked the comments yet

When I saw the Envy 15 specs I just goes, "Damn, that's the office looking version for the Omen 15"

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

3 жыл бұрын

That'd be the Elitebook 855.

@ramyokash306

3 жыл бұрын

But only 60hz screen :(

@gauditech97

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramyokash306 well yeah

@ramyokash306

3 жыл бұрын

@@gauditech97 so what's the use of higher gpu??

@gauditech97

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramyokash306 render and model training

"I'm not going to do any benchmarks," he said after using a microscope on the oled panel :D

@tonyjohnson5669

4 жыл бұрын

Thats not a benchmark that just looking really closely.

@tim3172

4 жыл бұрын

@@tonyjohnson5669 *Looking closelier.

@theimaginativeweirdo4537

4 жыл бұрын

Benchmarking and pixel-peeping are two different things

8:20 - "You're not actually gonna be able to see it because it's like looking at a screen, through a camera, on your screen that's probably not an OLED.." That's savage... but true.

@devinstepp4205

4 жыл бұрын

Nah bro..im oled

@rca168

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of phones are oled

@AdX-nj3ti

4 жыл бұрын

almost all phones are oleds so hes wrong more than you think he is

@1stMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Well... my two monitors and my iPhone 6s definitely aren't haha

@DJDiarrhea

4 жыл бұрын

More like you're not going to be able to see it because youtubes compression turns it into a blocky mess.

Alex: "This one is $500 cheaper" *My eyes light up* Alex:: "It's $1,500" *Disappointment sets back in*

@hailgod1

4 жыл бұрын

with a 4k oled though. its much cheaper than expected

@justinedzard

4 жыл бұрын

@@hailgod1 like MUCH cheaper, at least from what I expected

@minkus1100

4 жыл бұрын

What exactly were you expecting from a 4K OLed, 6c12t i7 with a 2060? That price is more than reasonable for the spec.

@MadSpacePig

4 жыл бұрын

@@minkus1100 I know. But it's not the stuff I care about to be honest with you. It's annoying how you can only have some features when it comes along with others as well because of price banding.

@muzlee7479

4 жыл бұрын

@@MadSpacePig so whad do you care about if not performance and display? Literally the two most important things about a laptop. Also it got nice IO.

imagine if nothing else this was a 4900HS instead of a 10750H. literally everything else was the same how different this would be

@nischay4760

4 жыл бұрын

@WILD CRACKS its never going to be released, a 4800h would be sweet though, better performance, better thermals, better battery, and probably cheaper xD

@samyuj

4 жыл бұрын

2060 g

@chiefalpha8584

4 жыл бұрын

Dude I know right! That is all I have been wondering since it came out. Why the F*ck isn't Razer, Dell, HP and every other company using the 4900HS in every thin and light performance laptop with 2060 - 2080 respectively? It would be an easy sell! The H version can be reserved for the 17in but HS should be a 15in standard. I mean WTF? The HS for those who don't know is an AMD - Intel Killer mobile CPU (4900HS to be exact) that crushes Intel offerings while consuming 35W. Intel uses 45W and struggles to keep up and at 95W it comes close to the 35W AMD. Let that sink in.

@itsmekermit4136

4 жыл бұрын

@@nischay4760 yeah R7 4800H easily beats R9 4900HS as they both have same number of cores.

@itsmekermit4136

4 жыл бұрын

@@chiefalpha8584 Your statement of "Intel uses 45W and struggles to keep up and at 95W it comes close to the 35W AMD" is horribly wrong, when current intel and amd competitors are given same wattage the amd one will win but if the intel one is given more power than amd one of course its gonna win. I honestly would not mind high tdp for laptop for more performance if the thermals are under control. The ryzen 7 4800H is rated 45W but when it is plugged in and is performing CPU only load it can pull upto 72W on some laptops and give better performance same is with the intel ones. About battery life when running laptop on battery the cpu TDP should be electronically limited to low power eg 20W, 25W, 30W which would result in better battery life.

Fantastic video. I love you getting into the technical details vis a vis screen artifacts.

Is that a gosh darn Fearless Flyers shirt? I love Alex more and more.

@finlaymckechnie2084

4 жыл бұрын

I just spotted that too, what an ace

@rbzbsb

4 жыл бұрын

L O W V O L U M E R E V I E W

@lolinonusos225

3 жыл бұрын

love it when you notice that one of your favorite youtubers is listening to good music👍👍👍

@dielaughing73

3 жыл бұрын

I'm amazed how many people have noticed. Great to see them getting recognition

Yeah... Good thing you noticed that OLED image quality issue. I was wondering how the heck they managed to squeeze in a 15" 4K OLED touch panel in a $1500 laptop when you can barely get IPS screens with 4K touch at that price point. This old tech explains it. But this laptop with a normal IPS LCD seem to be a good bargain in todays ridiculously priced market space.

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

4 жыл бұрын

I was so excited to see that OLED spec as well but hey ho.

@arcknight_bk2o183

4 жыл бұрын

It's not all THAT BAD lmao. It would actually be great with most people stuck at 250nits currently

@AgusSimoncelli

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's "old" tech

@arcknight_bk2o183

4 жыл бұрын

@@AgusSimoncelli yes, that too 😂

@emperorcyber509

4 жыл бұрын

I wish they make 1440P panels instead of 4K. It saves you a lot of battery life.

Love Alex’s un-boxing’s and reviews. Great work.

My Dell XPS 15 from 2019 has a gorgeous OLED display, no grainyness or reflections.

AMD would’ve been killer in the laptop Instead of intel

@muzlee7479

4 жыл бұрын

But then you get no thunderbolt

@PeterNjeim

4 жыл бұрын

@@muzlee7479 AMD supports thunderbolt and USB4 is coming soon.

@jondonnelly4831

4 жыл бұрын

@@muzlee7479 not a big deal.

@paulwin9036

4 жыл бұрын

@@muzlee7479 Thunderbolt is no longer an Intel exclusive.

@marvinkastner934

4 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for a laptop like this with a killer amd cpu instead of that intel-heat-problem. Whichever company get's something like that out in a quality like the Dell I'm instantly buying it.

I also have a HP laptop, grey keyboard with back light turned on makes it really hard to see what is on the keys. Also my fan ramps up really quickly and it is quite loud.

Alex, you are a great and very thorough presenter. Love all your videos, LTT is lucky to have you!

The fearless flyers shirt... What a man of culture

"There it is. It's a laptop".

I was honestly hoping to see a Ryzen CPU, oah well

4:35 Just because this doesn't come with a type C charger doesn't mean it can't be charged by type C. As you mentioned earlier, the 200 W charger keeps the laptop from losing power under load and type C can't deliver 200 W yet. The type C ports on this laptop supports Power Delivery (up to 100 W I think). Please do a little more research before saying stuff like this. PD through type C is one of my favorite features and I keep an eye out so when you said it doesn't support it I remember most HP non gaming laptop have it and went online and checked.

@norullzz

3 жыл бұрын

Let's hope the EU does the same to barrel chargers on laptops as it did to barrel chargers on phones ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/electrical-engineering/red-directive/common-charger_en

@mornnb

3 жыл бұрын

It would have been nice if they had tried to use a USB-C physical port with a non-standard charging voltage like Dell did on the XPS.

@AjdamusMagnus

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure whats the point charging 200 W laptop with 100 W USB-C charger..

@AjdamusMagnus

3 жыл бұрын

And my HP OMen has POwer Delivery too but IT CANNOT BE USED FOR CHARGING laptop but other devices. So maybe do some research too

@zanderxu4113

3 жыл бұрын

@@AjdamusMagnus if you read my entire comment you would have found out I said that most HP non gaming laptops have it. I mean, you could attack me saying most since most low-end ones will not so I'm really referring to mid-range to top tier ones but OMEN. OMEN. Let that sink in. If that didn't sink in, The Omen line is HP's gaming line. Also, which model do you have? where does it say it has power delivery? I am legitimately interested if I am wrong as this will be the first case where, if what you are saying is true, it says PD but does not support PD charging of the device. A link to the product on HP's website would be swell. As to why I want type c charging on a 200W laptop. Because laptops are not just for gaming, just like this one, a non gaming laptop. Most of the time, you will be doing productivity where 100 watts is ample to top up the battery given at a lower rate. not mentioning you could lump around a charger that is 1/4 the size and 1/2 the weight.

I have a question. I'm looking for a laptop to do 1080p video editing for my KZread channel. I use windows movie maker (yes, still have it 😁) It's easy. So, do I really need a dedicated graphic card or Intel iris xe with I7 and 16gb ram will be enough? Right now, I upload a 15 minutes 1080p video in 20 minutes with my desktop with I7 and older system from 2017. Thinking about buying the Samsung book pro with iris xe or Dell xps 15 with iris xe.. Or should I buy the GeForce rtx 3050?Thanks 👍

Love the editing work from “who’s dis?!”

I got that same shirt! The Fearless Flyers are amazing.

@dielaughing73

3 жыл бұрын

Represent

Love the pixel peeping. Learned something!

Omg! Just noticed credits at the end! Cool! Thanks guys for making this video! :)

“oh wow, this seems great! “ * an hour later...* “everything about this seems cheap and it’s falling apart in my hands...” The HP experience in a nutshell.

@teancoffee208

3 жыл бұрын

That makes me a bit sad, but it explains why it is (or was, i haven't checked) around $500) less than the XPS 15

That Fearless Flyers t-shirt though! 🔥

I love how Alex casually brings microscope and discuss screen quality also Brandon's voiceover for just an unboxing video. This is LTT and I love it.

11:15 "Actually I'm going to take it off, screw it!" Don't you mean unscrew it!

My guess before watching is that if this actually killed the XPS, we’d see a review video on LTT first

@m-stat9

3 жыл бұрын

For sure not, solely because of the less usable 16:9 screen, inferior speakers, smaller trackpad, more plastic, etc.

@teancoffee208

3 жыл бұрын

@@m-stat9 I was gonna look into this laptop, but then you said "inferior speakers."

@m-stat9

3 жыл бұрын

@@teancoffee208 they are, but leaving that aside the HP is by far not a 'XPS killer'. For that the whole package needs to be better.

I love how Alex’s audio tests are alway Crab Rave

My job has been issuing out HP Envy 15s as company laptops since last year, the build quality on them is super nice. We've had our issues with them, being an enterprise and all, but overall they're not bad. Mine does have a ghosting issue with the backlight/panel, but not many people have this issue.

Fearless Flyers Tailwinds t-shirt??!?! 😍😍😍

In my experience HP makes HP killers... I've never had one that didn't die before a year of owning. One literally exploded a VRM

@venykrid

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, looking back, that does happen to me. My Pavilion hasn't ghosted and it's been around 14 months so

@venykrid

4 жыл бұрын

@@willembeltman I feel like acer is worse but that may just be bias

@android-user

4 жыл бұрын

@@venykrid I never had any issues with any brand. I think all brands produce a lot of shitty products. There is not this one bad brand.

@SoufianeSaidi

4 жыл бұрын

my current HP laptop is 4 years old and got another one which is 11 years old and still running perfectly

@isaacf7613

4 жыл бұрын

Dell has some of the worse customer service. I do agree that hp is kinda cheap tho. I think that each brand has its advantages and disadvantages.

"there it is, it's a laptop". Alex has seen too much

16:9, the moment I closed the video.

@unbroken1010

3 жыл бұрын

Why nitwit

7:22 OMG thanks Alex I was just having the same problem with my new monitor, moving it back on my desk totally fixed it.

"Let me just get a microscope..." I love you! 🤣

OH, I see The Fearless Flyers T-shirt, Alex, good taste!

Great work man. But would have appreciated if you could show side by side comparison like a game play or photoshop usage on both Dell xps and Hp Envy laptop.

This video suited you incredibly well Alex. Also the screen stuff super important and cool. Bottom line, in general, can you tell about that 'dirtiness'? Because when you did the voice over, you said something about being "too close", but I saw you just sitting there and typing at a "using my laptop" distance. So I'm not sure how much further away they want you to be from... a laptop. I'd say if the screen isn't amazing or you can tell about these things then it's not worth using it.

I just bought that for an employee that requested a laptop. They love it.

Woah, is nobody gonna talk about the fearless flyers shirt alex is wearing, took me 9 minutes to notice though

Would you choose this over the 2020 Razer Blade 15 Base Model for video editing? I'd like to see you do a review of the Blade 15 Base Model with the RTX 2060 or 2070... Thanks in advance!

Quick question: Is it better to keep the cloth after unboxing any laptop? (The cloth to cover the keyboard)

"There it is, it's a laptop" -Alex, 2020

The bottom looks very similar to omen 15

the pixel layout is actually legit cool i hope they implemented this in future monitor review

The crosshatching effect or screendoor effect is due to the touch digitizer its also present in hp spectre series too

I almost squealed when I saw the Fearless Flyers Tshirt 🖤🖤🖤

Nice fearless flyers shirt, my dude.

I'm confused with the links. I'm looking for the envy but I can't even find the one that's 1,500 dollars and it has the amd ryzen in it instead which Idk is better or worse

Nice video. But I imagine the 45W CPU is too much when the GPU is also at full load during gaming, even with the vapor chamber... Do you limit the CPU wattage for gaming?

"the way the pickles are lined up"

I really like the Envy lineup. The x360 is an amazing laptop!

The charging port is also HP Fast Charge, which apparently charges 50% in 45 minutes according to the HP specs.

I could be wrong but I think you are the first to actually put the HP Envy 15 out there. I looked for months, never found anything. I'd ask reviewers if they would ever get their hands on one. Uniform response is HP does not send review units out... so I bought the XPS 9500. Oh and Dell will not even attempt a price match against the Envy 15. Curious to see some benchmarks on it, but overall I'm very satisfied with my XPS 9500.

I'd be very interested to see the real world thermal performance of this compared to the XPS 15.

The Fearless Flyers... A man with taste, I see

I dig the review, and I dig the Fearless Flyers shirt too

I like the option of a Barrel connector because if you only have usb c charging you loose a type c port. If they only provide a USB c charger, it would be nice to have an extra usb c port instead of a barrel connector in that case...

RTX off: "HP ENVY 15 2020" RTX on: *OMEN 15 2020*

@officialnoonon

3 жыл бұрын

I baught a HP Spectre x360 15t (2020) instead.

@shriajaaykarthik4895

3 жыл бұрын

@@officialnoonon Is this envy he is reviewing Convertible like the Hp Spectre x360 15t

Maybe it's different when you're in-person, but did anyone else think the HP sounded better than the XPS?

@twanli

4 жыл бұрын

bruh it sounded way better on the video. maybe it did sound diff irl

@rawdez_

4 жыл бұрын

its just yours headphones/audio setup sucks

@CFWhitman

3 жыл бұрын

It was just in a position to be picked up better by the microphone. Especially when heard briefly, people tend to equate louder with better, but you'd have to listen more closely or hear it better to pick out the differences in frequency response very well. The bass was mostly just "missing" on the HP.

@humble2246

3 жыл бұрын

Some people like flat music and some like bass

@JeppeHagh

3 жыл бұрын

HP laptops usually have awesome sound in light of the limitations of the speakers' size since Bang & Olufsen tune the speaker setups for HP

I'm honestly fascinated with this. As someone who used to be a Lenovo guy but have been using Macbooks now for a few years (for both Windows and macOS), I'd forgotten about all the little things that I just don't worry about any longer, like screen quality issues, hinge quality, and all those other little things. Oh, and 200W power bricks... wow. While the additional ports are really nice... now that I've embraced the USB-C world and I've bought all the cables ( and a USB-C dock... which is essential). I'm used to it and in some ways prefer it. You DO have to be more organized but in general... I'm not using HDMI/SD/USB-A all the time ( when undocked ).

Have this laptop right now for 1 Month now. Still stunned by this device and can't really confirm the critic points. What is a bit enjoying for me is, that the buttom cover is not so stiff in the middle, you can slightly push it inside. Otherwise, no problems with heat and fan noise. On battery with few tweaks my fan is not kicking. Battery is awesome COMPARING to my old laptop without optimus. With enabled Battery Saver i can get out roughly 7 hours by doing office tasks.

Repping the fearless flyers shirt I see you

@justinolson9336

4 жыл бұрын

It's low volume!

"There is something going on with screen" *Bring out a microscope* *subscribed*

What microscope you used to check the screens? Cool stuff!!!

Wait, I never thought about this before, but could you run 2 gpus in sli using the dual thunderbolt ports?

At that price, get a zephyrus g14. It's better in a lot of ways.

@pranavkolluri

4 жыл бұрын

I strongly considered both, but I value a large, colour accurate screen because I don't primarily game

@Harley411

4 жыл бұрын

Cons = build quality and screen color acurate

@ChiliContli

4 жыл бұрын

Just did this! Hope it works out fine

@raawesome3851

4 жыл бұрын

@@Harley411 build quality is good for the zephyrus. What are you talking about? Everyone says the color accuracy of the zephyrus is good, at 117% srgb.

@raawesome3851

4 жыл бұрын

@@pranavkolluri it's an inch difference in screen size. Plus, you could just get a monitor.

Honestly HP always disappoints me, when I started uni I needed a powerful laptop for some cad and rendering stuff and I went for the 2019 HP omen 15 because specs seemed good for the price, Long story short first one the gpu dies in 2 days, got it replaced, second one came with a screen issue and a broken fan, and third one came with a gpu with a bunch of artifacts, this over a period of a couple of weeks, so eventually I complained enough to HP that they gave me a refund rather than a replacement, so I went for the ROG Zephyrus 701GWR and that one has no issues. My friend got the 17 inch omen instead and in 2 months he got a dead gpu too, and my father has had an HP ultrabook, I think it was the specter line and that laptop was littered with issues too, HP laptops seem good on paper but in reality they are pretty bad, also customer support is a big pain

@undercrackers56

2 жыл бұрын

I concur. I was buying and preparing laptops to accompany a high tech product my employer sold. Long story short, all of the HP's required lots of time and effort to remove bloatware and most of them developed issues. My own laptop is a Lenovo 17" with i7 CPU and 16GB RAM. I bought it a few years back and whilst I am ready to upgrade, the damned thing won't die.

Loved the review.

What is the limit for power delivery over USB-C and Thunderbolt? Was wondering if the dedicated power port is being used because USB-C won't deliver 200 watts.

when even the unboxing channel for LTT pulls out a microscope.

No AMD version? sorry I'll pass. If HP drops an Envy/similar laptop with a 4000 series Renoir chip, consider me intrigued, $1600 for a laptop that could easily be made better (Lower thermals, lower power consumption and longer battery life) it could easily be closer to $1400 if they went with that specs list instead

@floorgang420

4 жыл бұрын

Look for Omen, it's the same without OLED.

@humble2246

3 жыл бұрын

@@floorgang420 Omen actually has OLED

@begejekan1244

3 жыл бұрын

I think they have AMD for the x360 version

@mubarishussain3696

3 жыл бұрын

The problem with Amd laptops is that their design sucks. Amd is superior in Intel as of now but there are not good laptops with amd. Can some one recommend me a 15 inch with Amd 4000 series

HP has been on a roll the last 5 years. I have an older Envy 13 with an MX150 inside - it’s super reliable with a great screen, battery life and MacBook build quality, and can handle the occasional Starcraft 2 game. I’m actually looking at their Omen 27i monitor, which combines color accuracy with a 165hz refresh rate. Even in my office, the workstations with that “cheap” enterprise screens look great. They’ve come a long way!

Nice shirt! Gotta love me some fearless flyers and Vulf

Aside from the screen wobble (I'd have to judge the actual screen in person), I like it. Also like seeing they adopted good cooling practices normally seen on gaming notebooks as well. This is generally the notebooks I like - not game focused, no gamer looks, but still capable of gaming in a pinch when called upon.

@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I feel as though in recent years HP is becoming a big competitor to large Laptop brands like Lenovo, Dell, and even Apple. Hope they succeed because their laptops are very well made and have solid performance. Best of all, they are way easier to fix than a MacBook (Cheaper I bet too)

Is it just me or does the HP laptop look just like the Razer Blade 15???

@HeadPack

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, inside as well. They could have compared it to the Blade 15 as well.

Btw are the reviewed laptops settings checked? For example if speakers are set to the highest or higher than default frequency (usually 48khz). Because I think it's important

Have an Envy from 2013. Like the numeric keypad, and 17" screen. Can't imagine losing either of those. Was CDN$1100, and while I would love something better, it still works well for me. Will these things get cheaper with the nVIdia 3000 series?

Ah yes, "Who's Dis?!", a well known editor of LMG.

@alwins

3 жыл бұрын

Looking at most if the comments, I thought only I noticed that

"a lot of ports" lmaooooo So sad that we manufacturers make laptops so thin and sacrifice cooling and functionality :(

@sachinrane4716

3 жыл бұрын

Yea Right!!!! It hurts to see a machine not getting some breathing space and they're like let it get uncomfortably heated then.

Isnt the Vapor Chamber nearly the same as in the razor Blade 15, ist it? der8auer made a video on it. also the red glue around some components looks the same and is placed the same

When you pulled the vapor chamber - it was connected/adhered by this black tape to the smaller radiators. Might it be a carbon thermal pad type of deal? Because THEN it might have a lot of sense.

> 1600$ laptop > "im just really surprised Hp managed to crowd a vapor chamber in a BUDGET notebook liket this"

@mayurgowda8930

4 жыл бұрын

I am not well aware of internet shortcuts so... What does this">" mean when you use it.

@rawdez_

4 жыл бұрын

@@mayurgowda8930 citation

@meair7388

4 жыл бұрын

makes the sub-$500 refurbished thinkpad i recommended to my dad look like a pile of rocks with electricity trapped in them

@royk7712

4 жыл бұрын

with that spec compared to pc, its a budget

@jeffrey5602

4 жыл бұрын

i mean considering it has 4k oled and touch combined with i7, 512 GB storage and a 2060 its it definitely quite cheap.

I'm just waiting for the day these have AMD processors. It's so close, I can feel it. pleease

@alexdavis9324

3 жыл бұрын

Everytime I see a laptop reviewed with an Intel cpu in it I know I'm just here for fun, no chance of purchasing it

@rjj00

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexdavis9324 why? tiger lake is better no?

hello, i am trying to find the right laptop for a long time.. no gaming, no video editing, no autocad or render work.. i will only use laptop for financial trading stock programs that need high CPU, SSD and ram. and laptop will be used from 09:00 am to 11 pm // all day nearly of course not will battery, always plugded in. i read some coil whine problems abaout this model.. can you advice this model for me ? heating /cooling issued and stable performance? thank you.. Dell XPS 9500 is ok for this? ( heating issues, working stable etc )

Holy cow! Full sized ports and more than 2?! Well done HP... this is pretty awesome. Would have liked an RJ45 port but I also like the Dock-life. But: Full sized ports and more than two of them! In 2020! I might consider buying HP again... after two of their laptops randomly died on me in the past.

last time i was this early, Alex was rocking the bowl haircut

1:31 What's the opposite of peel porn called? Because this is it. Also, can companies STOP making silver keyboards with white backlighting. It makes the keys hard to read in alot of mid to low light conditions when you'd actually want to turn it on.

@colebennett0

3 жыл бұрын

agreed. it's so weird. Just got ours yesterday and it was one of the first things I noticed, in addition to the screen door effect on the 4k monitor. Not that happy.

@mukunddhar6657

3 жыл бұрын

I have the envy 13 2018 and the backlighting is blueish. It is weird

Ahhh Alex back at it again with the Crab Rave speaker test a classic

Hey, what is the name of that video you showed us here with Linus wearing that robber's mask/outfit??