As a Filipino who personally did research and spoke on plagiarism in international conferences and various academic circles, I'd like to extend my gratitude for this video. The fact that the accusers didn't even wait for "The Making of Bulan" to be certain of their accusations meant that they're simply trying to pre-empt and influence audience perception, knowing fairly well how DAMAGING they can be to the artists's reputation and credibility. Simply put, PLAGIARISM MEANS DISHONESTY. It means STEALING IDEAS FROM ANOTHER AND OWNING THEM WITHOUT SHAME. The mere suggestion that Felip/ Ken's MV plagiarized another artistic creation sends ripples of doubt everywhere- enough to crush the faith of fans who may not know enough about it and rely on the immature conception of plagiarism as something you can immediately confirm by showing the similarities and influences between two creations. But in identifying plagiarism, you need to settle a few things: 1. Is the subject the same? Do the message of the creators/ artists say the same thing in different words and are brought together using exactly the same means? For example, if the artist used cuts and clips from another artist's work- then superimposed his own material to "cover" or "hide" the original source material, then that's clearly plagiarism- no doubt about it. But is Bulan even about the same subject? Are the themes the same? The subject is loaded with cultural concepts and symbolism that are unique to the artist's milieu and cultural origins yet versatile enough to transcend them. The two artists being compared in this are NOT even speaking of the same culture. Symbols of course traverse different cultural and linguistic boundaries- and the moon isn't a new symbol even in Eastern mythology. Western cultures have it since the time of the ancient Greeks. 2. Are the techniques, instruments, and materials that went into the composition of the creation/production OWNED EXCLUSIVELY or INVENTED by the artist purportedly copied? Was the arrangement of these materials and elements in the said source material so SPECIFIC or UNIQUE to that material that it CANNOT BE FOUND ELSEWHERE? This is where the accusation against Bulan falls flat in its face. Music elements are NOT OWNED by any specific artist- nor is the arrangement so peculiar to the said artist being copied that it can't be found elsewhere but in his work. Unless there is evidence that the work of the artist being copied was used WITHOUT VARIATION AT ALL- WITHOUT THE SLIGHTEST MODIFICATION AS TO SUGGEST THAT IT IS COMPLETELY ANOTHER ARTIST'S BEAT AND MUSIC SUPERIMPOSED in Bulan and grafted into its structure mechanically (that you can see it without need of over-analysis or interpretation) then you have a case. Otherwise, if you have to go by INTERPRETATION to see that there is a possible similarity- then you're probably stretching that biased perception a little too far. 3. Plagiarism can be committed even in translation and by paraphrasing (using different words to say the same thing). However, not only should the subject of the two texts or discourses be the same- but it must be shown that the source material (that was being copied) is being used to communicate exactly the same message- WITH THE SAME INTENTIONS AS THAT OF ANOTHER AUTHOR/ CREATOR. Intention is invisible- but there are outward manifestations that allow us to judge that (in criminal law, we all know this- you know the presence of killing intent by the location of the wounds, the weapon used, and the gravity of the attack on the victim's body). In judging whether intent is the same, you have to see if the creators in question are USING THEIR PRODUCTION IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY- TO COMMUNICATE OR AROUSE FEELINGS IN EXACTLY THE SAME AUDIENCE. This is the reason this accusation against Bulan can be said to be deliberately malicious. The music clearly speaks to a SPECIFIC AUDIENCE- using symbols and materials and beats that have a collective, universal texture and appeal in order to reach audiences BEYOND the intended one. BULAN'S CULTURAL LANDSCAPE- THE MEDIUM IT SELECTS AS A CONVEYOR OF ITS MEANING AND MESSAGE IS UNIQUE TO THE AUDIENCE IT WANTS TO REACH. Even without considering the disclaimer in the opening of the MV, the elements used and the REACTIONS OF THE VARIOUS FOREIGN REACTORS and AUDIENCES to the MV sufficiently EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS A UNIQUENESS TO BULAN THAT COULD NOT HAVE COME DIRECTLY FROM ANY PRECEDENT. In conclusion: We need to be more discerning as audiences- true- but discernment should be informed and guided by expertise that is available. Plagiarism is NOT a new concept yet it's been thrown around like a joke that one can withdraw or correct without serious repercussions. There are TECHNICAL PARAMETERS to establishing it- and some areas remain gray and debatable, that doesn't mean that accusations can be so SUBJECTIVE as to be BLATANTLY CARELESS and IGNORANT. THESE ACCUSERS SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DAMAGE AND MISINFORMATION THEY CAUSE. However, for the sake of settling things in an amiable manner, artists choose not to deal with the accusers legally. This may be the better option in the long run- but detractors should be given a fair warning. YOUR ACCUSATIONS CAN DAMAGE CREDIBILITY, HONOR, and INTEGRITY and you almost always get away with no consequences on your part. THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK- and use proper media channels. There is also such a thing as abuse of rights and freedoms. Any proof of actual damage can be used against you. Sorry for this long comment- but again, thanks to your discussion and more power to your channel.

@happymelody440

2 жыл бұрын

Wow..i read it all...thank you at least we know now how plagiarism work and the accuser can be sued in court. Big thanks again for imparting your knowledge as a LAWYER.

@carmelia1518

2 жыл бұрын

Post it in twitter pls

@bellaajero2459

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said po. I'm learning things because of this issue.

@karylpadayogdog1973

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this po 🥺🙏❤️. Hoping bashers/accusers will read this. Because they are accusing Ken of plagiarism with no hesitation they just attack and accuse him like that and it really saddened us, A'TIN. Even Ken's statement admitted that his MV was inspired also by Lay's Lit, they were like, "so he admitted that he was inspired by Lay, he should still put credit to Lay because if not it will be called plagiarism" like omg wtf. So yeah, hope they will watch this video also, mismo mga foreigners na nagsabi na hindi plagiarism. Akoy nahihiya sa kanila 🥺.

@antisocialpessimist5641

2 жыл бұрын

right! Thank you so much! hopefully those immature bashers understand this. "then you're probably stretching that biased perception a little too far." preach!

guys, please do take note that this guy right here is a film studies graduate. he knows what he's talking about. there were too many professionals already who said that this is not a plagiarized material. what's not clicking people, like seriously?

@ayaconst

2 жыл бұрын

Well they already made up their mind so.... 🤷‍♀️

@jorenmaealbano5245

2 жыл бұрын

Well masyadong self entitled iyong toxic fans nila

@mrsjlmgrijaldo8889

2 жыл бұрын

Close minded na ibang mga pinoy.. imbes kabaro cla pa nagaakusa kakasad lng..

@happymelody440

2 жыл бұрын

Many profssionals are now backing Felip, like Luis, Kirby Araullo, Lawyers, A person whondid research and Spoke Plagiarism in the International Conferences and hoping many more will come out. This only shows that They want to protect not only Felip but our country, our Country's Heritage, our Culture, the PPop Music that is now making a LOUD NOISE internationally. Those accusations maybe are deliberately malicious. Maybe with the intention of sabotaging PPOP in general so it will not continue to rise. OR THEY are just Ignorant of law and Culture and too passionate in supporting their idols in a negative way that they cant see that they are being eaten up, their whole being, their roots

@asterzalea886

2 жыл бұрын

I saw their comments grabe apaka toxic. I hope na lumipas na to and focus on streaming Bulan.

I loved it so much! I'm so happy that you're on the right side here. Thank you so much Luis and boy I've missed you!

@annamariellesantos3820

2 жыл бұрын

Anong Right side? Ikaw nga ininsert mo yung taong patay na may maicontent lang!

@annamariellesantos3820

2 жыл бұрын

Wag Kang mandamay ng ibang idol sir para lang may maicontent! Next time magIsip ka bago ka gumawa ng kwento!! Sana di ka dalawin no JH sa gabe!

@CashualChuck

2 жыл бұрын

@@annamariellesantos3820 iyak lang

@annamariellesantos3820

2 жыл бұрын

Is that all you got?

@user-cn3kb5qy2y

2 жыл бұрын

@@annamariellesantos3820 ngawa ka nga

When I watched ken's video i didn't really see any problem with it. I compared the two MV and there are some similar feels but they are *completely* different MV. Also there is no plagiarism here. Duh 🙄 and thank you for this video and giving your thoughts about this. 💠💙

@gemchan9962

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah right I was shocked when they said it was plagiarized like I don't get deja vu when I watched it both

@argiedalunan1688

2 жыл бұрын

Even Lay Lit also have reference to create that music even the MV.

@isadavid280

2 жыл бұрын

people shld realise that no person or individual has a sole ownership of ideas that has dragons on their videos and red color of background or the formation of dancers. If those critics or bashers have only done a research first of the Phil history they would know that Chinese people are the early traders in the country and many have settled down here so our culture were somehow influenced by them as well as those of other countries that has. colonised us. Felip also loves anime and I see also an influence of it in the video, so Luis is right on his reaction on the topic of plagiarism even on first. sight of the two videos they are completely different with only the dragon the red color the circle and not to forget that Ken is not using a mask but half cover of his face which is actually a kind of head band while lay was using a real mask.

@misakignella0924

2 жыл бұрын

@@argiedalunan1688 exactly

@misakignella0924

2 жыл бұрын

@@isadavid280 exactly, even Selena Gomez did the red veil with dark location with fire at her background part of her video while dancing at her MV 'Come and get it' that's same as bulan compared to Lay's Lit song is far from it. So there is no problem at all

Thank you Luis. Actually, you have the same statements of my father who is a Lawyer in terms of definition and substance about plagiarism and your viewpoint why Felip's music video is free from violations. You are the only one so far that Im waiting for someone to speak like my father. A very big thanks!

this will just be a passing issue and a great motivation for FELIP and his team to continue to showcase their talents and creativity and prove the critics wrong. this is just a first of many challenges they'll be facing as they are now being patronized around the world So, thank you for watching BULAN. thank you for your criticisms. in other words, whether it's positive or negative attention, thank you for being a driving force. a force that will continue to propel local and other artists to greater heights of stardom.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this issue Luis. Same as your opinion. I’ve watched both mvs and listened to both music. People should stop saying it’s “plagiarized” because it is really not.

Ken's Explanation: "While there may seem to be some similarities between the sound of 'Lit' and 'Bulan,' a closer examination of the chord progressions, instrumentation, samples used, and even syllabication will prove the claim otherwise," FELIP said in his statement. He added, "Moreover, the melody and the ethnic chants in 'Bulan' were based on indigenous Filipino ritual music, made modern with the addition of rock and hip-hop elements." Regarding the other visuals in the music video, he cites the Filipino game "Bulan-bulan," the Filipino mythological creature "Bakunawa," and the Filipino mythological goddess Haliya, among others. He says, "Apart from the lyrics, the music video for 'Bulan' was made to be a metaphor for real-world issues, while staying true to common knowledge of what transpired among the characters in most versions of the ancient lores." FELIP continued, "'Bulan' was heavily and responsibly researched that details in the MV had its cultural basis, executed with some variations so as to not offend any cultures/indigenous populations."

@justindedios2147

2 жыл бұрын

indeed!!

@snzp9356

2 жыл бұрын

The artist shows confidence in his craft. Felip has the proof to back up his statements. This is what I can see from these statements. I almost wish he would sue whoever started these plagiarism rumors, to serve as an example to all the others that are abusing the freedom and anonymity of the internet. Internet anonymity is just an illusion, if the artist has determined to find out who, it can easily be done. It's a pity that Felip is a frank person but not a vindictive one. He probably would leave all things in God's hands because he grew up as a God-fearing Christian.

@madonnahernandez483

8 ай бұрын

​@@snzp9356what you said is correct.

Some EXOLs are just used to accuse people. Not a new thing. They should try harder. If it is really plagiarism, they should discuss it in the legal process. I feel sorry for Felip/Ken_of_SB19 and his team, hopes this won't stop him for making solo music video. Maybe this issue is blessing in disguise.

Balanced, Fair, Comprehensive, Factual. Very well said. Congratulations. My respect.

Thanks! I love your sincere, insightful, thoughtful and intelligent view on this matter. This is just a small token from one Atin. You definitely deserve more.

I just want to clarify this for those people who are asking Felip to give credit to Lay, You should know that an artist can only give credits to people who jointly contributed to the song's structure, chord progressions, lyrics and the production of the MV. You don't give credit to an inspiration.

@thepinoychoppingboard1012

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Credits be like: Produced by Lyrics by Directed by Inspired by 🤣🤣🤣

@shajeeahanne1132

2 жыл бұрын

@@thepinoychoppingboard1012 And they're saying they're scared for us cuz their fandom is going to take legal actions 😭

@angelinetabernero5318

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLYYYYY.

@angelinetabernero5318

2 жыл бұрын

He already gave credits to Lay's LIT as one of his many references, but Lay's fans asking for their idol's name to be included in Felip's MV is too much. First of all, they are not the ones who are authorized to ask for credit (if it's really needed), it's Lay Zhang's authority, not his fans'.

@girlfuego

2 жыл бұрын

If they want credits i think they both need to credit ALL the references and inspiration in their MV, or let say ALL the MVs in You/tube…lets be fair ok 😑

the frustrating and saddest part about this issue is..most of those critiques are also Filipino. 😔💔

@briankang6928

2 жыл бұрын

it's not even about being Filipino lmao, it just happen that Bulan is from a ppop artist so obviously filos will hear it first and will find whatever they find similar... I'm sure if it was from a foreign artist, the people from that country would prolly identify smth too

@esbiwannayn7477

2 жыл бұрын

@@briankang6928 all about the song is screaming very FILIPINO. instead of supporting their own...what they did was criticized and attacked. do they have any idea about Filipino culture? about Philippine mythology? i guess they haven't. isn't that sad? Some filos are so used to those mediocre song and mv's..that's why if a filo artist releases a par to their expectation song/mv..automatic those so called critiques will label the artist works as copy cat. filipino crab mentality at its finest!

I am crying while watching this. Thank you for this 😭. Felip don't deserve all these hatred.

You were very spot on with the shot types. That's what I noticed as well that people kept on pointing out that was "plagiarized" when in fact, they're actually just common shot techniques. The photo and video that was being circulated and used as "proof" of Felip copying Lit's MV were deliberately chosen scenes and were edited together to make it look like it was copied when in reality, they were just using the same shot type. To add to that, they're not done in the same sequence. Ideas can't be copyrighted. It's how it was expressed that could be. Unless you put the video side by side and they have the same shot in every sequence (without splicing other scenes), then that's when the lawyers should step in (edit: even then, you'll still have to prove it in court down to the nitty gritty).

In behalf of A'tin fandom we would like to thank you Luis for explaining everything about plagiarism!💙 In this midst of crisis A'tin united to defend & protect FELIP/ KEN, eventhough you don't have any Filipino blood but your sympathy mean's a lot, you are on of the reactor that I adored 'coz I feel your love to our country & our culture!❤️ We really love SB-19, we believed in their artistry, they are our one of the pride of 🇵🇭 music, we remained to support them no matter what!💙🤘

The Bakunawa is not a dragon ..it's a sea serpent deity.. Love U Luis. 💙 thank u for this.

Thank you Luis for the brief explanation even if you're not a Filipino like us but we felt the genuine concern. You expound every bits and pieces VERY WELL. We appreciate it. Hope everyone especially the Kpop fandom who accused Ken about his works, will understand how music and artistry intertwined from each other so there's always a chance that similarities happen. Thank you again and God bless!

@zkdln364

2 жыл бұрын

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To be frank I will never notice it, if they didn’t do the side by side montage of Lay’s MV to Ken’s. I was just waited for a “professionals or experts” to point out the obvious. Coz being a 90’s kid, we have seen this concept before, to be more accurately the similarities with “Lay’s” Mv to 3 Seconds to Mars by Jared Letto’s “Yesterday” MV. Like 11 years back & this concept is never new, you can repeatedly see this in movies and advertising. The beat well have you heard Metalica anyone? or Led Zippelin “whole lotta love”.

@mrscitrine3592

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Kay’s Mv was much longer too and you need to practically nitpick

Hats off Luis, there's so many Filipino fans of that artist continously accusing Felip. And it is very toxic, I have explained to some individuals but many are close minded.

@rosannajavier52

2 жыл бұрын

That's because people who choose not to listen will remain closed-minded no matter what you say. We just hope others who bashed felip will eventually realize they were wrong and be careful next time

The only thing that is bothering me is the fact that... the 1st ones who accused Felip of plagiarism are Filipinos themselves. It just goes to show how Filipinos can be foolish at times and embrassing our own culture. The foreigners are even the ones who are telling the world that there were no plagiarism involved. NAKAKAHIYA TALAGA KAYO. Imbis na protektahan nyo kapwa filipino nyo kayo pa ang unang naninira. Puro kayo mga talangka na mahilig manghila pababa. If only I can be Ken and file a lawsuit against these people who continuously bash Felip..... Shame on you!!!!!😡🤬🤪

@aracho5694

2 жыл бұрын

Crab Mentality Kasi. Kahit ayaw Amin Ng mga kabataan ganun din sila...Sila yung Galit na Galit sa crab Mentality pero sila rin Meron nun

@mimibeset4282

5 ай бұрын

Mga nakikisawsaw sa kasikatan ng iba, basta mema lang kahit alam nilang hindi totoo ang claim nila

It is a pity that many of his own countrymen do not appreciate the storyline. We are all Asian; thus, we share most of its culture. I love this video. Thank you for pointing out things.

@noelabella3884

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely correct.

@chewvyorleans7966

2 жыл бұрын

So sad that it's our own race who's putting down the artist😪

@ronronyarts

2 жыл бұрын

@@chewvyorleans7966 exactly whats up with gen z rn, especially in philippines😭😭 literally most of my friends don't appreciate their own culture that much.

@mxmaam

2 жыл бұрын

Hurtful truth of being a filipino. Some ppl they keep saying pa na they know the culture and the phy myth but questioning these characters and elements in the mv. this is so sad. also, felip acknowledge lay already as ONE of his MANY references, the allegation should ends there. But no, many fans, esp filo stans, keep pushing their accusation. Acknowledging the inspiration is the best that the artist can do, but insisting to put Lay's name on the credits? That's too much.

@ronronyarts

2 жыл бұрын

@@mxmaam Exactly, Lay also took inspo from many artists and musicians? Did he have to credit them? No.

People should stop the mindset of always calling every similarities plagiarism

@thepinoychoppingboard1012

2 жыл бұрын

for real, when I finally found out why they accused Felip of plagiarism, i could not help it but lol! Seriously, people thought of plagiarism so lightly. If it has similarities they will call it! 😅🤣

@jermac4359

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree ! These are just very narrow minded people and doesn’t think before they speak. SB19 is a supergroup and the Bakunawas wanted to devour them but unfortunately they will not be defeated !! Felip knows his roots and he made an incredible and amazing MV !

@kelbindiya6737

2 жыл бұрын

People definitely need to know the words before using them.

Those bashing kept me all night. Feels like they don't want us to be vocal about our cultural heritage. Ken will be one of the first to introduce the Filipino Mythology to the world which is almost buried and forgotten. They even questioned me being an EXO-L. I've been there when Lay himself is not even a thing. How sad these baby EXO-L are attacking even though they didn't know where they stand.

@seurn7801

2 жыл бұрын

That was my point when I was venting to my friends. The main message of Ken's MV might get buried by all these accusations. It's actually the first time I ever felt this sad. I feel sad for Ken but mostly for the message he wants to relay. I also love our culture and our folklore and myths to see this is the backlash it was getting and the insults coming from our own blood and spoken in our own language. It really hurt. I was more disheartened than frustrated.

@NEIL-sc6wx

2 жыл бұрын

@@seurn7801 same feels

@cyeaunnie

2 жыл бұрын

oh wow, i feel the same way i couldnt stop thinking about how people can be so misinformed and some of them making unrelated points. they were missing the point of the whole mv and honestly i think we should all just listen to our hardworking artists, they both had their own ideas, ken singing about filipino mythology.

As always, everything is on point.. Please make it LOUDER Kuya Luis💙💙

He nailed it , all my thoughts were expressed in this video.

Thank you Luis for being the eagle in this matter! Hang on FELIP & BULAN TEAM you all did a masterpiece many of us believed in you & your amazing work of art. Please do not be disheartened of this bakunawa your team are facing, instead focused on your project at hand. . . I personally believed after BULAN you are working already for the next one & we are looking forward to that! To the haters & ones trying to pull BULAN down good luck & good riddance coz that's all you can do.... to pull down coz you were never on top. . . ever!

Felip's vocals in this song though. Very sinister and bassy! 😍🤩 and beats for Bulan is also heavy bass.

@offlimits194

2 жыл бұрын

@@BravoCoy watch the MV reactions of Adonis Tabanda he is a music director and engineer. He knows more about music more than us.

@mrscitrine3592

2 жыл бұрын

@@BravoCoy there was an explanation to that in terms of not being understanding dahil yung music is loud someone said the sound is like in the folklore when the townspeople Tried to scare bakunawa with loud noises. But I understood most of the song , the loudness was in the beginning only for me

@kelbindiya6737

2 жыл бұрын

@@BravoCoy it's probably intended to have the instruments louder than the vocals. If you consider what's stated in the preceeding reply, the mix makes sense. Other than that, try to listen to the song in streaming platforms (spotify). If the quality varies, then it might have been mixed that way to adhere to the video concept, or an error occured. Either way, captions are available in English and as well as in our own language. Lyrics are also available in lyric websites. Once you are made familiar with the lyrics, listening to the words won't be much of a task.

@cronalastbraincell_

2 жыл бұрын

@@BravoCoy How about looking at the subs, it's in the mv, tagalog and english is available. And even if they didn't understand, it's still music, there's a lot of elements to be appreciated besides lyrics 🤗.

Thank you for pointing out the fact that before Lay & Felip ever created their MVs, Hollywood had already done most of the things that are in their MV. Both are inspired by the cinematography that originated in the West. Even the dance moves and music genre originated from the West. Give credit where credit is due. Both MVs were inspired by the West. U.S.A.

@boyngitpa

2 жыл бұрын

Cashual chuck recently posted a video right now about Bulan and Lit check it out.

@snzp9356

2 жыл бұрын

@@boyngitpa Saw it...made me happy. It's an in-your-face kind of thing. That's why people should always think twice before accusing others. Toxic, "entitled" fans should educate themselves before opening their pie hole. I especially liked the first comparison between Louis Tomlison - Back To You (2017) & EXO - Love Shot (2018)....the melody. The rest of the video about other artists' work was pure bliss. It also made me realize that Asians are underrepresented in the West primarily because most Asian artists offer music and dance that originated from the West, it's not a novelty at all. It becomes interesting only when infused by a particular Asian country's culture where the artist originated.

@boyngitpa

2 жыл бұрын

@@snzp9356 true

@alecsmariballarta5345

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, there was no original shots from Lay's MV, don't get me wrong both songs and mvs are good. And as someone who is enthusiastic about films, seeing similar shots was not suprising at all. Lots of films have paid homage to films they reference to, but why haven't they cried out credits to these directors if we're following their logic? 💀

@kitxaty1985

2 жыл бұрын

@@snzp9356 the one thing I had a problem with that video is that it veered away from the issue of Lit vs. Bulan and involved other groups. Also, Louis Tomlinson has been credited as a composer of Love Shot, so dragging that issue in wasn't really ideal. Asian artists really need to be presented more to other countries, particularly the West. We've got such a rich and diverse culture and so many creative and talented people that it really hurts not seeing their work becoming well known across the world.

Because of this issue of Plagiarism: Ken now more globally famous. Thanks to haters, you made him more popular. Luis you are awesome as always. That's why I never get bored on your content.

Some people have made it a habit to bash other artists who are doing well. That’s why social media is so toxic. That’s why I prefer vlogs, such as yours Luis, that discuss topics in an informative and objective manner. Rather than promote negativity, you add value because your comments improve understanding of the issue. Keep up the good work.

We appreciate this dissection Luis. As an A'TIN, all this controversy and attacks have been devasting to the fandom and kept us up all night. It was so unfair.

The word "Plagiarism" is really being mis-used and abused. Plagiarism in the song is overstatement, "Inspired" should be the word

@dokassi7976

2 жыл бұрын

Wheres the credit? Even EXO credited someone similarity over 10 seconds beat

@mayvasquez3937

2 жыл бұрын

@@dokassi7976 wala nman ako nbasa n artist n kpareho ng beat nila

@mayvasquez3937

2 жыл бұрын

@@dokassi7976 bqt kaya pinagpipilitan ng mga to un .credit. hnd nman yan ginagawa ng ibang artist

@Kim-fu1um

2 жыл бұрын

@@dokassi7976 sa milyon-milyong kanta sa buong mundo sa tingin mo walang magkaparehas ng beat? kung ganun e ang dami na sana nasampahan ng kaso🧐

@jessicadumrique562

2 жыл бұрын

@@dokassi7976 bkit sya ba gumawa ng Bulan hahaha 😝

Maraming salamat Luis! I really want to point this out too. Hopefully people (especially some Exo-ls) will realize and understand that it is not Felip's intention to copy/plagiarized anybody's work (Lay's Lit in particular). It just happened to have the same elements in the mv. He's solely promoting and showcasing the Philippines' mythology.

In addition, the dragon in LIT is four-legged dragon while the dragon in BULAN doesn't have any legs because it's literally a serpent dragon.

@happymelody440

2 жыл бұрын

The first one was a Flying Dragon. FELIP's dragon is actually a SEA SERPENT which is called in Phil mythology as BAKUNAWA

@musicmundo4881

2 жыл бұрын

Entitled masyado. Sila lang ba may dragon? HAHAHAHA sila lang ba pwedeng gumamit ng Dragon?

@sheanegordo6254

2 жыл бұрын

@@musicmundo4881 oo nga nmn

i feel sorry for Felip, he doesn't deserve all these allegations :(

THIS MUST BE WATCHED FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK FELIP PLAGIARIZED THE OTHER ARTIST SONG. THANK YOU FOR THIS! WE APPRECIATE THIS EFFORT YOU MADE AND THE EXPLANATION YOU GAVE. 💠💙 ALSO, THEY MUST ALSO WATCH CASHUAL CHUCK's EXPLANATION ABOUT BULAN AND THE STORY BEHIND IT. I DON'T GET IT WHY PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. GOD BLESS THEIR SOUL AND MIND. ❤ BTS was also accused of plagiarism, but they still continue their dream and fight for what they want. Same goes to Felip and SB19 keep fighting for your dreams and don't mind those people who are just bored to their life that's why they always have something to say. 😅 Fight! 💠

I think the right word would be "inspired". Felip is Felip and Lay is Lay. No one is copying anyone's work here, inspired maybe since Lay is also a really amazing artist. Let's spread love over people's hard work.

@cath.is.an.erizen

2 жыл бұрын

🙌🏻🙌🏻

There are a lot of Filipinos who are unaware of our own culture and myths because of the lack of exposure to our pre-colonial literature. We are taught mostly about the literature during the colonial era and how we fought for our freedom (for example; El Filibusterismo by Dr. Jose Rizal) I think some people are not aware of the Legend of Bakunawa. Hence, they "think" that Felip copied the concept from Lay. However, in Felip's defense, he had already had that style even before the music video of Lay came out, he had always composed music with his team in that genre. His vocals and the instruments are inspired by the style of music played for krumping, the circle, in the beginning, is similar to the games we played as a child in the Philippines, where someone draws the moon (the circle ) on the ground and others must not leave the circle and someone from the outside must touch the players in the circle. Those who are within the circle who are not careful might be eventually "tagged" or tapped by the player outside the circle, hence symbolizing the Dragon "Bakunawa" who had eaten the moons. Thank you for explaining the situation Luis, we appreciate your input and non bias perspective on the matter. THANK YOU 💗

Thank you Luis! thank you so much for shedding light to us. The most heartbreaking part is, that actual Filipinos are also pulling Ken down, I just hope that all these things would bring a positive effect to Ken. I would only just say to myself that "their ignorance will make our Bulan's light shine even brighter".

@julym.2564

2 жыл бұрын

Yesss!!!

@rollercoaster8133

2 жыл бұрын

@@julym.2564 Let's not engage with these cherries as they call themselves, let's put our Bulan on top, we are his Haliya and we're here to protect him

@julym.2564

2 жыл бұрын

Agree po. Stream Bulan nalang at patuloy na pagmamahal kay kuya Ken at sa MAHALIMA. Tiwala tayo na wala namang maling ginawa si Kuya Ken at ang team niya. Matatapos din ito 🥰

I do agree with your views. I also don’t think that plagiarism happened here, especially when we’re considering the very definition of plagiarism. The tempo and the overall feel is somewhar similar. But the message, purpose, and how the elements were used are still different. And yes, many of the cinematic elements are common in other movies. But none of it can be considered plagiarized content. They blew this issue way out of proportion. Felip and his team have already spoken on the matter. It should end there. Thank you for this analysis.

What these malicious and ignorant accusers (with crab mentality) should take responsibility and be held accountable. That's the only way you can be sure that people will think twice before destroy someones credibility . You just cant let it go with a slap on the wrist. Their adults so they can take the consequences of the crimes they committed .

What ever we say haters gonna hate. A lot of KPOP stans wants to drag down PPOP. They will not listen even you’re music and arts professional. Most of Felip haters don’t have any background in music yet they accused Ken for plagiarizing without knowing that the 2 songs have a lot of differences. Melody, chords, lyrics and even the progression of the song. A lot of artist are inspired by other artist but these KPOP stans who bashed Ken act like they own something that is not. TBH this is not the first time they accuse someone.

Couldn't say it any better! 💙 Well thought out. Thank you Luis for explaining!

And when he said "he saw the headlines on the news that A filipino artist...." I already felt sad. Cause his fellow countrymen actually pulled him down. They did not realise that they're included in the headline since it says filipino.

Thank you Louis! We've all been trying to defend Felip/Ken without bad-mouthing Lay but some are still close-minded. I agree, both are great artists!

Thank you for this, Luis! Thank you for spitting facts. We all hope that this issue would die down soon. We hope that Lay's fans would finally open their eyes because the truth is, NO PLAGIARISM HAPPENED.

Thank you so much for this,I think there’s only two types of people living in this world , the narrow and broad minded, and we know which one we belong to

Thank you for defending Felip, for explaining to those short minded people. I hope that they would move on and just be good people

Very well said. The other artist also were inspired, his also using symbols, dance moves and creative ideas by asian or even middle-eastern culture. It's better to do some research, respect each other and try to understand that every culture is unique around the world.

Thank you for sharing your takes about this issue and your knowledge as well when it comes to filming. A lot of professional in music and I'm film industry already speak up and stated that Bulan is not a plagiarized one. Having said those statements make me relieved that Felip did not do something bad to harm or discredit other amazing artist like Mr. LAY. I just hope that this hindrance will not made a bad impact to him as music artist. Who just love to share his artistry to other people. Even a historian of our country is very grateful to Felip's Bulan. For making awareness to our undervalued culture like Filipino Mythology (folklore) to younger generation. Utilizing his platform to influence others.

Thank you so much for this review! Actually, even the mythical creatures are not the same. Ley used the dragon while Felip's bakunawa is a serpent.

Very well said Luis. Thanks so much for taking some some of your busy sched to share your knowledgeable insights. Luv from Toronto

thank u for this… i really hope this issue dies down coz its not healthy anymore.. hope the fans on the other side be open minded and move on 🐉🐉🐉

@amazonjelledsushi

2 жыл бұрын

True, tbh, i leave twtr for 2 days now coz i dont think i can handle too much negativities, it's heavy in my heart. So i preferred to focus here streaming.

Great video. Casual Chuck has a similar take on this matter as well. Good job explaining everything 👏 👍 👌.

Exactly!!!!!! Totally agree with you!!!! Let's support Asian artists...... and for the record, it's not only Chinese who have mythical dragons but the whole of Asia as well and that includes the Philippines. We call our dragon Bakunawa here in the Visayas and in most parts of the Philippine archipelago.

and if they really did their research they will know that it is faaaaaar from being plagiarized because of the story behind the mv bulan, anyway thank u for this Luis, lovelots

It's sad because the Filipinos themselves were the first to judge felip who inspired felip there with the exo artist but there is a big difference between the song and then filipino culture and filipino mythology were used by felip but the mindset of other filipinos will overthrow felip because if just the influence of kpop became a closed brain of the Filipinos became over passionate about their kpop idols so I'm not surprised that one day kpop will just flourish in the world of entertainment and that's unfair in other industries thank you for sharing this 🙏🇵🇭

@jancyruslabrador4941

2 жыл бұрын

Dapat pa nga silang matuwa. Pero hindi eh.. masyadong sinasamba ang banyaga.

@jancyruslabrador4941

2 жыл бұрын

Tsaka may history na ang EXO fans ng mga pang aakusa sa ibang artist. Like bts.. pero ang totoo ang exo mismo ang mahilig mangopya ng concept.

@noonecares6920

2 жыл бұрын

Uso talaga ang mga utak talangka sa pinas, ang atin nlang ay suportahan natin ang ating mga artists

@gemchan9962

2 жыл бұрын

@@noonecares6920 Crab mentality

@marieroseanncunanan8979

2 жыл бұрын

Pag tinanong mo about sa bansa nila walang alam, pero pag tinanong mo about sa idol nila daming alam.

Thank you for this RV. Appreciate all your inputs. Hoping all reactors will as competent, logical and objective like you. More power.

The point you made at the end regarding both artists being able to use their platforms and success, to show the world our diverse history and culture throughout Asia, using music is something we should applaud both of them on and even all Asian musicians that have succeeded to be globally recognised. For many years growing up I did and still do enjoy western music but never did I think I would see someone who resembles with my culture and looks like me be in mainstream worldwide charts. Then seeing kpop gain more attention over years has made me proud that Asians are finally being represented in music. However being Filipino it has sometimes made me feel sad too cause I know how talented and truly hard working us Filipino’s have worked to try and make it in the music industry worldwide. Now today I can see people who look like me being superstars and our culture is being embraced and celebrated worldwide. It feels really good to finally have Pinoy representation in the global music industry. I’m here for it all x

Everything is on point. Well explained. Thank you Luis.

Both artists displayed great talent. Both songs are originally beautiful and both music video feels are similar but uniquely amazing! 💙

Yess!! All that you said is true. Especially the artist and teams who were behind the scenes.

Interesting analysis. Its clear that you know what you are talking about. I live in China and am amazed by the number of Chinese pop songs that are actually plagiarised western songs. Having said that, as you said, there is only so much that can be done before riffs start sounding familiar. But there is a difference between "wow, that sounds familiar" and "wow, that's definitely a rip off of xyz song".

Just a bit of addition. The Bakunawa is not a dragon but a sea serpent. That is where everyone is getting confused. While the chinese dragon has feet and is a symbol of prosperity and good luck; the Bakunawa slithers on the ground, sea, & wind it's representation is also quite the opposite: the harbinger of doom and tragedy. So they might look alike in some ways both mythical creatures are very different in their lore and genus. And the bakunawa in all respects has always been represented as a giant serpent-like monster. The problem here is that oriental culture is more prominent and widespread whereas the hidden lores of indigenous Filipino narratives are very obscure that it would be so easy to accuse the latter to be copying an earlier form. When actually, both have been existent for time immemorial just that one story is more known than the other.

that's true, the issue is affecting both aritists negatively :/ all this plagiarism negativity is overshadowing the art form in both music videos

Crotch-grabbing that Michael Jackson popularized is copied countless times by multiple artists, Bruno Mars for one, yet, no one says Michael Jackson was plagiarized.

SLMT LUIS FOR A VERY WELL EXPLANATION....BULAN DIDN'T COPIED AND STOLE TO ANY ONE...FELIP CAN DO ANYTHING BY HIS OWN,YET HE IS JUST INSPIRED SOME PEOPLE WHO IS ENGAGED IN MUSIC!

THANK YOU for this content ... it is really good to hear something factual from an authority of film & cinematography

Awww, thank you very much Luis...I really appreciate to hear your opinion about this :D

Wow, you remembered Bulan national costume of Ms. Philippines.

Nah. There are only some similarities in mv. But I like Bulan more in terms of the music. I watched it both when I read the article from GMA News. Fans are crazya

Thank you Luis! The Philippines and China have had close ties through trade and intermarriage CENTURIES before the Philippines was “discovered” by the west. It will follow that while we have our own culture and mythos, there will be influence and adaptation one way or another. With respect to the MV, there is very little completely original to both apart from the stories they are based on. Felip’s already said our legends are practically gone and he’s pieced together several versions to get his storyline. His colors are inspired by the indigenous tribes in his province as those are the colors they are known for. Please do watch Kirby Araullo’s analysis on the mythology behind Bulan. He’s a Filipino historian and researcher who specialises in pre-colonial culture. I’m sure you’ll find it interesting.

@vaba_2591

2 жыл бұрын

Tama inspired Lang Di plagiarized jusko Ty po

@bts-se4hd

2 жыл бұрын

I had an argument in twitter about this and I said that filos are heavily influenced by Chinese and thus explains the similarity on the mv. Then they go saying, "yes now you know it's plagiarism"😂😭.. eggos talaga eh. They also did that to our boys and look where they are now?😘

@user-cn3kb5qy2y

2 жыл бұрын

@@bts-se4hd palaos na rin kasi yung stan nila HAHAHAHA naungusan din ng bts kaya yung maliliit na artist ang binubully. I SAID WHAT I SAID. LAOS.

@bts-se4hd

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-cn3kb5qy2y and western countries have their very own version of dragons. So why they're so pressed about this? While Chinese are the inspiration for these, still adaptations are very diverse and the symbolism are all different but the constant is about power.

@bts-se4hd

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-cn3kb5qy2y I have nothing against e x o. Just that our boys experienced all the pains their fandom had caused. It almost broke them. They are.jist only human after all. That's why army's protect them at all costs. You can't judge us, we also felt their pain😭 now as a filo, I can't let them ruin our expressions and dynamics of our culture.

Witty as always. Love u beshy Luis 💗

I'm still seeing some comments from the other fandom asking for credits lol, I realized most of them are motivated by personal bias and wouldn't open up to other ideas. If Lay still hasn't released a statement about this it can only mean one thing. We can't force close minded people to listen to logic and facts if they don't want to. What matters is the issue regarding plagiarism has been cleared up (by professionals). And as Felip's supporters we can sleep with ease knowing he did nothing wrong. Ignore them, let the rage die down. Stream Bulan 🌕🔥

@bridgetdbogoy

2 жыл бұрын

professional insights really helped me breathe from the chaos. Felip did nothing wrong. We weren't wrong. As long as we ourselves are aware of this, di nila tayo matitibag ✊

@boyngitpa

2 жыл бұрын

@@bridgetdbogoy same kaya iniignore ko nalang yung ibang toxic fans sa kabila.

@naida2dibdibnipablo295

2 жыл бұрын

Let the haters stay pressed. Let’s just be happy and stream Bulan :)

@naida2dibdibnipablo295

2 жыл бұрын

This! Totally agree

Also it was not a mystical dragon Ken used in the mv, it was a SEA SERPENT. A lizard's head, snake, turtle, crocs, even gators can even look similar.

Thank you Luis for presenting facts... giving your on point opinion...hopefully Ken's bashers/ haters watch this to be clarified.. " let' s choose to be kind" unquote Pablo God bless Luis

Thanks for giving this opinion. There's just so much hate.

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and breaking down each point and i agree with everything you say specially the cinematographic shots.

thankyou so much for this, i really appreciate the effort you exerted although you are a foreigner, thankyou bcs you went this far, just to show and explain to FILIPINO's about what the MV is all about, and accusing a FILIPINO artist about something that he worked hard for. thankyou Luis.

Thank you for taking the time to do research and for presenting these info. I learned a lot.

Thank you Luis...I hope more people think and analyze like you...I guess it's more of Bulan making a stir in many countries...If it is not that popular, they wouldn't care...Maybe it is seen as a threat...You are on point! Asians should help each other, push each other up not pull each other down...Thanks again...God bless!

Toxic Fandom must STOP , you’re not helping the Artist, you’re Ruining them.

@jancyruslabrador4941

2 жыл бұрын

Louder.

@julym.2564

2 жыл бұрын

!!!

Another intelligent and meaningful reaction, Luis. Much appreciated your talents, your time and the continued support specially to Filipino artists.

most of the people who are accusing ken of plagiarism are the ones who really doesn't know the term technically and legally, orelse they won't spit it out that easily . so this is really very helpful for them so they won't do it again to others artists.

Thank you for this reaction and analysis. ❤❤

One more time for the people on the back!!! Thank you very much for this video!!

Thank you Luis for this intelligent, logical and technical insight. I hope doubters and bashers would be able to watch your RV. #FELIP #FELIP_Bulan

No Ken is not copying for me notswithanding the race or whatever but for me Ken has so deep voice and very very classy..thanks..thanks Luis!!

We need that hug too Luis. Thanks for this.

U are correct sir, not only China has dragon there so many song has dragon as well also the red color.

How heartwarming is this and at the same time it makes me sad Why some foreigners defending Felip/Ken? While our some fellow Filipinos are dragging him down and saying he's a copycat ? 🥺

Thank you. Hoping this video of yours reached the people who are accusing Felip without analyzing studying and researching every bits of pieces inside the MV and in the song itself...Hoping instead of bringing down artist who workd hard for his craft they will learn to be more compassionate, appreciative and respectful. But if they feel its not their cup of tea then leave. Just focus on supporting your artist wirhout disrepecting & damaging other artist. Specially FILIPINO fan trying to pull down filipino artist without realizing that it will not only damage the artist but our own country, the Philippines which he represent, & WE/US as a "FILIPINO". I m not sure if it will be ok to sue people who accuse and damage the artist so as to be an example in the future in case these things happens again at least they will THINK FIRST BEFORE THEY CLICK.

I apologize to all EXO fans but they have been notorious for being so toxic and accusing different artists of plagiarism. I know not all fans are the same. But this needs to change.

@624zone

2 жыл бұрын

Exols are the toxic ones while you guys have been insulting the Chinese community for this problem? What a joke

@didinekpoplover6329

2 жыл бұрын

Exo-ls don't need you to apologize for us bcz we defend just our artist apologize for yourself

@ceruleanx5364

2 жыл бұрын

@@624zone yep, you just proved my point.

@dkslover

2 жыл бұрын

@@ceruleanx5364 how did they prove your point? they asked you a question so you can defend yourself but you didn't, right?

You explained everything well Luis.. point by point.. from a professional point of view.. with all honesty.. delivered straight from the heart 👏🏼Thank you sooo much & I’m sending you all my love & kisses too! 😘Here’s my warm hug 🤗 God bless you Luis 😍

this issue downplayed the conversation of history that both artist wants to promote. Fans destroyed both themselves and the song by amplifying ideas that should not be a concern. They are concerned about their artist's feeling right now as if they know them well and not even knowing artist's reaction. The fact that we should converse the similarity of Asian culture and the thought of how these ideas was spread out across Asia.

thank you for your real reaction of FELIP MV!!!ONLY THE BASHERS AND HATERS OF SB19 make an issue because the want SB19 down but for an A'TIN solid support for the PPOP SPECIALLY SB19!!!BASHERS AND HATERS KALANG AT A'TIN FANS KAMI SOLID

Thank you for this. Same thought. This is only one of the many struggles he need to take to make him even more stronger. His video and song is superb no matter what!💙🐥

Thank you for this! Fair & very informative! 💙

THIS IS A GOOD DEBUNK THANK YOU FRO THIS I AM WELL INFORMED NOW