What do you think? Was there any merit in the actions of emperor Commodus?

@primop6647

3 жыл бұрын

I think that after all, he wasn't that bad. Basically rendering the senate useless was, imo, a good thing due to corruption inside.

@user-kt1lh5sz1i

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, abandoning the senate was rather smart, however, his mass killing and hysteria was not smart, in the end, he deserved to die by abandoning his father's conquests and wasting thousands of lives

@nikolamaksic4790

3 жыл бұрын

Small pox plague is the main reason that set in motion other problems that caused 3rd century crisis. Having in mind who his father was if he couldnt do anything at least he shouldnt have made the situation worse

@Radiant100

3 жыл бұрын

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@user-kt1lh5sz1i

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, it should be Cleander that should be hated

"He removed senator's from the power structure.." He *was* the Senate.

@SterbenCyrodill

3 жыл бұрын

Darth Commodus

@nuclearnadal4869

3 жыл бұрын

He’s too dangerous to be left alive

@QuarterKnight01

3 жыл бұрын

He wasn't the Senate. He only has control of the Senate and the courts.

@byzantinetales

3 жыл бұрын

He removed part of himself then 😆

@alexandernorman5337

3 жыл бұрын

Legend is he was a Sith Lord.

This is why you never tell the assassin who he is working for

@jacobperschbacher3928

3 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of the meme where the assassin pours poison in the wine uses his finger to stir it then sucks it

@hectorvega621

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobperschbacher3928 I think I seen that too

@Rjd575

3 жыл бұрын

Unless of course you want to promote a certain agenda. Getting rid of Senators, for example.

@worsethanjoerogan8061

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rjd575 Next level plays. 200 IQ

@tptallen4498

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobperschbacher3928 lmaoo thats one way to hide the evidence

So Commodus is basically a Warband character...

@mynamejeb8743

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@prussianrocket2702

3 жыл бұрын

despite losing war, we feast!

@GerSanRiv

3 жыл бұрын

@@prussianrocket2702 calm down Harlaus

@leonardofranzinribeiro4220

3 жыл бұрын

@@prussianrocket2702 butter for everyone!

@nhlanhlashamase3453

3 жыл бұрын

No he was an early viking

When almost two millennia later people still talk about how bad of a job you did... Edit: Somehow some American's that apparently think everything is about them took this comment personally and are discussing which of their recent presidents did a worse job..... Guy's, just wait a few thousand years, history will judge. If it even remembers your little squabbles....

@00784865

3 жыл бұрын

"What we do in life...echoes in eternity." -Maximus

@drewdowns7128

3 жыл бұрын

@@00784865 that's a quote from the meditations

@nightlightabcd

3 жыл бұрын

It is a lot like the trump administration and his support of the treasonous co-conspiracy Republicans of the senate with co-conspirator McConnell, know that what ever they do, they will get away with it!

@thanakonpraepanich4284

3 жыл бұрын

@@lastword8783 Don't know, they said the same thing ten years ago that Bush Jr. was one but history rehabilitated him well enough. And America would remember President Trump long after worthless KZreadrs are forgotten.

@00784865

3 жыл бұрын

@@drewdowns7128 yea i know it from the movie Gladiator, so thanks for telling me.

Are you not entertained, my Almighty Algorithm?

@gueenjohndavila873

3 жыл бұрын

Woah...how come you have commented 16 hours ago when the video was just uploaded around 25 mins?

@gueenjohndavila873

3 жыл бұрын

@wassim games Oh....that's why. If that is the case, how do you become a premium member channel and does premium membership require monetary contributions or anything that is similar to it?

Commodus:"Am I not merciful?" Narcissus:"No, you are not."

My boy Commodus just wanted to watch some games and sip some wine. The only thing he was trying to slay was some snatch, not armies. The OG frat boy that became Emperor.

@yugitrump435

3 жыл бұрын

Toga! Toga! Toga!

Claudius: "See? This is what they're preparing for you!" Me: "OMG, less talk and more stabbing, your idiot!"

@JamesJJSMilton

3 жыл бұрын

Less talking, more raiding!

@inquisitorsteele8397

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesJJSMilton It's almost harvesting season

@Mario-us7ds

3 жыл бұрын

Commodus: "Nope"

@Xallarxo

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s a narrative fiction. You’d see something like that in a movie. “Ha ha ha now I am going to kill you ha ha ha”. In real life it wouldn’t happen like that. All though who knows, maybe the guy was trying to send a message, say something like “senate sends his regards”.

@LOL-zu1zr

3 жыл бұрын

Out for a stroll are we?

These videos specifically on a certain emperor are really nice. Maybe even do more people like Theodoric of the Visigoths.

@Bigsmoke11001

3 жыл бұрын

Ostro not visi.

@user-kt1lh5sz1i

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bigsmoke11001 no, Ostrogoths were under Attila, but Visigoths, like Theodoric were under Aetius during Battle of the Catalaunian Plains

@Bigsmoke11001

3 жыл бұрын

I Was talking about Theoderic (Amal) while you guys where talking about Theoderic (Balth/balt). Just a misunderstanding.

@OCinneide

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bigsmoke11001 which one sacked rome?

@twztdned

3 жыл бұрын

@@OCinneide Alaric

It always amazed me how one of the greatest Emperor's of Rome would immediately be followed up by one of the worst

@kev3d

3 жыл бұрын

It's like when you meet sweet, intelligent, successful parents that have an arrogant, dismissive, and incompetent child. How does such a fertile garden yield such bitter fruit?

@Anglomachian

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, that Hadrian guy, right?

@811chelseafc

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the problem with hereditary succession. It’s no coincidence that the zenith of Rome was stewarded by the 5 Good Emperors, all of whom were adopted as heirs based on their abilities and qualifications. As soon as that streak was broken by Commodus, things instantly went to shit. All of Rome’s worst emperors were the sons of emperors and many of the best were not.

@tolkiendil4806

3 жыл бұрын

@Hannibal B True

@v4enthusiast541

3 жыл бұрын

@Hannibal B- From JFK to LBJ

"But it was me, CASSIUS DIO!"

@nqh4393

3 жыл бұрын

MVDA MVDA MVDA MVDA MVDA. M-V-D-A!!!

@NicoBabyman1

3 жыл бұрын

VRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

@michaelangelokapirig6151

3 жыл бұрын

Oho, you're approaching me?

@AndromedaPrima

3 жыл бұрын

V seconds left IV seconds left III seconds left II seconds left

@gamebawesome

2 жыл бұрын

“I reject my Romanity!”

I'm a historian and did some research on Commodus reign. There are some very nice books that tries to see his rule beyond the "good" or "bad" dichotomy that prevailed in an outdated historiography. I would recommend Oliver Hekster's "Commodus: An Emperor at Crossroads", Geoff Addams "The Emperor Commodus: God, Hercules or a Tyrant?" and John McHugh's "The Emperor Commodus: God and Gladiator". To summarize, Commodus bad reputation is due to senatorial texts that represents him in that way, but when we annalyse epigraphy, numismatics and other archeological findings, we see that Commodus also brought prosperity and peace for 12 years in the Roman Empire and tried to fight the effects of plague and war that characterized Marcus Aurelius reign by enforcing his connection to divinities such as Hercules. He didn't inherit a prosperous empire, but one that was marked by several problems in contrary to the overly idealized representations of Marcus Aurelius reign which, we know, had his life written by the elite senatorial order. Sorry for my grammar, english is not my native language.

@siddarth3955

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, also Commodus's action of changing name of the empire and all seems a bit far fetched. Is there contemporary evidence to this or its all senatorial historians sayings only?

@pedrovieiramarquesdeolivei4142

3 жыл бұрын

@@siddarth3955 Actually, he changed the name of the city of rome, the senate, the calendar and the legions. This may seen a bit off, but it was a common thing that emperors did in their time. Julius Caesar remade the calandar, Trajan renamed cities by his own name, Severus Alexander had legions named after him. What scared the senatorial elite was that Commodus did that in such a grand scale in so little time (2 years to be precise). There is a passage in Cassius Dio in wich he complains that Commodus is charging senators in gold coins (aureus) to pay for the games (great fortunes taxation maybe?). So yeah, they didn't had any motives to praise him and that shows in the documentation.

@siddarth3955

3 жыл бұрын

@@pedrovieiramarquesdeolivei4142 Oh cool cool but he does seem to have been popular amongst the masses except for a few elites...

@orion7873

2 жыл бұрын

Your English is better than that of most Americans and you make great points... history changes drastically depending on the source... For example, Donald Trump can point to dozens of major accomplishments and very few real failures ... yet about 40% of America thinks he's the worse President ever. This is mostly due to the fact that 95% of American media is owned by Democrats but, that's another story.

@hopelessdreamer9894

2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU I read those books and I'm glad you are pointing it out. Many sources were written by people who hated him, mostly the elite since he increased their taxes (normal since they were wealthier than the people). The Empire wasn't doing so well at the death of Marcus Aurelius, plague, and wars, unstable borders. Commodus ended some of those wars and fortified the borders of the Empire, I went in Aquincum in Hungary and there are pieces dedicated to Commodus specifically because the borders had become secure and more peaceful. And he was loved by the People, their Hercules, when he died, until Severus and Caracalla it was a whole mess and the economic and political situation worsened. Yes Marcus Aurelius was great but he did some shit and he wasn't perfect, just like his son wasn't an idiot monster and did some great things.

It seems comodus was at the end a tragic character. Despite his immense potential, he let himself be deceived on various occasions and poisoned by paranoia. Resulting in what would appear to be heinous acts,whilst giving his senatorial enemies plenty of material to use to ruin him and his memory. I wonder how he should have dealt with the corrupted senate to prevent such outcomes.

@hypothalapotamus5293

Жыл бұрын

By Commodus, the Roman empire was basically like North Korea. It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you. Was Perennis really plotting to kill him? I don't know, but you get too close to the sun and you get burned.

@Gizzatow

Жыл бұрын

Дион Кассий это объяснил небольшим умом императора.

-> Stares down at KZread Algorithm. *"Am I not merciful?"* -> Grabs KZread Algorith. *"AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?"*

@Taistelukalkkuna

3 жыл бұрын

Algorithm: *"Nope"*

Effectively, he failed to ensure that those who kept him in power were happy enough to ignore his quirks. Very few rulers survive if they don't keep enough of the aristocracy happy.

Senator: "See, this they are preparing for you." Commodus: "It's treason then." *Screams like a madman and does a 360° spin towards the Senate with his sword in hand.*

@RedVelvetBlackleather

3 жыл бұрын

Except the senate and his very sister tried to kill him, and the senate was hell bent on pushing Commondus to his limit; they even purposely declared they paid for the land that Commondus gave to his veteran solders just to spite him, and weaken the legitimacy of his reign.

@admiralsquatbar127

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedVelvetBlackleather The joke. Your head.

@RedVelvetBlackleather

3 жыл бұрын

@@admiralsquatbar127 What a brilliant rebuttal!

@lyonvensa

3 жыл бұрын

This doesn't sound too far fetched knowing Commodus is a gladiator fighter.

@Dimitri88888888

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedVelvetBlackleather it is

There's an awful lot of entitlement among the Senatorial class and Senatorial sources, so it's great to see a balanced video. No one person could cause the fall of the Roman Empire, but certainly Commodus' personal style of rule and personal preferences are a precursor to the end of the "Principate" and the start of the "Dominate". After all, the system of "Principate" could only work if there was a "Princeps", which Commodus clearly did not envision himself as. Indeed, the Senate certainly did nothing to make him feel like he belonged among them, so why would he embrace the Augustan style of "First Senator"? Why hold oneself as part of an institution who plotted one's death? The Senate were useless Plutocrats who did very little for Roman society, and other successful Emperors had ruled through freedmen (Claudius) and Prefects (Tiberius) to good effect. It's good to see them put in their rightful place - the trash - instead of held up as heroes.

@m_u_d_d_l_e3509

6 ай бұрын

This!! 🙌🏼

"Am I Not Merciful!" -Emperor Joaquin

Maybe he had ptsd from when they first tried to kill him🤷‍♂️

@SomeDude518

3 жыл бұрын

Ya dude never got past that.

@thanakonpraepanich4284

3 жыл бұрын

@@SomeDude518 Was the same goes for Tsar Ivan The Terrible? Watching his mother killed can't be good for mental health.

@theodorsebastian4272

3 жыл бұрын

@@thanakonpraepanich4284 Louise XV also watch peasants barge in to his bed room.

@koalabear1984

3 жыл бұрын

@@thanakonpraepanich4284 yes but killing your own son is not normal under any circumstance

@redjirachi1

3 жыл бұрын

Especially since his own sister was part of it

“Nothing happens to anyone that he is not fitted by nature to bear.” - Maximus "What we do in life...echoes in eternity."

"Cleander also sold positions, promotions [...]. In our age, this kind of cronyism is rightfully decried as unaccaptle [...]" Actually... Does not seem unfamilar to my ears, also nowadays...

@joeblow5178

3 жыл бұрын

That is done to this day. All judge's, embassy appointments. It is done in all areas of government and business. (welcome to the Corporate board, retired government official) Nice political parties donations. Hahaha

@vincegalila7211

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure they're saying that stuff like that was Approved of to a greater extent. As in seen as something Admirable.

@mjchapko

2 жыл бұрын

Given the current regime occupying the White House, I would venture , "nepotism & cronyism" are not only the norm in American society today, but celebrated and embraced.

Commodus: Who told the senate this lies? Cassius: It's was me Dio!!!

Septimius Severus, The man who rose to the purple, and more importantly, retain power after the year of the five emperors is an interesting character. Would you guys do a video on him in the future?

@hassanbassim4007

3 жыл бұрын

@Russ Christiansen wasn’t he of Berber decent ? Berber are those original people of North Africa who lived side by side with the Phoenicians and now with the arabs.

@Hugh_Morris

3 жыл бұрын

@@hassanbassim4007 no he was half Punic; colonists from modern day Lebanon. He was also half Roman.

@alessandrogini5283

3 жыл бұрын

Also Alexander Severus and Majoran deserve an own video

@robin_5099

3 жыл бұрын

@@alessandrogini5283 Ah yes, Majorian, One of the very few Emperors of the Western Roman Empire in the fifth century worth the name. Arguably, the only one worth the title.

@robin_5099

3 жыл бұрын

@Russ Christiansen Say what you will about Romans, at least during the golden age, if you had ability, and were of noble stock, you could wrise to the purple. Vespasian being one such exemplar.

"HES SPENDING MONEY HES CORRUPT REEEE" says the aristocratic class famed for lavish parties

@A-O161

3 жыл бұрын

Well here in Italy we never stopped this noble thing of corruption 😂

@harristurpin3503

3 жыл бұрын

@@HispanusCandor why’d you bold “their”

@harristurpin3503

3 жыл бұрын

thats not particularly true nor does it combat what i said.

@DeadlyAlienInvader

3 жыл бұрын

This is why I hated the Senate more than the emperors and take their horrors about their rulers with a grain of salt.

@worsethanjoerogan8061

3 жыл бұрын

@@onehope6448 Italian's are just the best at it

Claudius: "You sly dog, you got me monologuing!”

I knew the movie Gladiator wasn't meant to be historical, more a metaphor of 2005. However, I hadn't realized how different the historically likely Commodus was from the portrayed version.

The Antonine Plague of that period had also weakened the empire economic and strengh wise, it is said that many legions were severely affected, some wipped out.

4:25 "When you shoot, shoot, don't talk."

Enemies everywhere . Poor choice of associates , no discernment .

@thomasdaywalt7735

3 жыл бұрын

tragic is the emperor

@thomasdaywalt7735

3 жыл бұрын

@Red Eagle oh shut up

@socrates_the_great6209

3 жыл бұрын

The truth is everybody would be envious and annoyed by his success and way of doing things. And in the end, it would get him killed.

@mjchapko

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a description of DJT's term in office ...

When you invested all points in strength and charisma but none in luck and intelligence.

Commodus was actually not a terrible emperor. He was just an unpopular one that had many enemies and that drove him to become paranoid.

@socrates_the_great6209

3 жыл бұрын

Seems he was one of the better, but a little too much overall.

@kittykattzee

3 жыл бұрын

He definitely wasn’t one of the better ones lol. The better ones know how to play the Roman political game like Trajan, Titus, and Claudius. If you’re no good at the game, you just avoid playing it by being out all the time like Hadrian lol. Although he definitely wasn’t as bad as what a lot of people think.

'Wake me up when Hercules ends' I love that Greenday song

Once again a very scholarly and professional video! A critical examination of the sources may well rehabilitate the early rule of Commodus, but it's hard to argue that the madness in his last years was in line with previous emperors. That is a balanced story that seems to do justice to the past.

@oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682

3 жыл бұрын

Would you be so kind as to make suggestions for articles or books that back up what he says that contradicts the more established about Commodus's early reign?

This reads a lot like Nero's reign (unlike Caligula who was a complete psycho from the start). He starts off normally, with capable and trusted advisors but then betrayal (even from family members) and paranoia sweep in and basically he gets to a stand off with the senatorial class who despised him (and wrote the history afterwards). Tales of wild excentricity soon followed. They both seemed to be quite popular with the common folk too, although some aspects of Commodus reign like changing the name of Rome seem even more insane than Nero's historicallly confirmed antics

"Did Commodus End the Golden Age of Rome?" "Yes. Next question, please!"

@krankarvolund7771

3 жыл бұрын

@GothGirl Marseilles But is he the cause of the crash? Or is it the moron that put him in charge? ^^ Note that before Marcus Aurelius, roman empire was not a succession by dybasty, they choose their successors by adopting them ^^

@htoodoh5770

3 жыл бұрын

@@krankarvolund7771 most adopted successor were related to the emperor.

@htoodoh5770

3 жыл бұрын

Commodus didn't the golden age. His actions were not usually for his time except for the gladiatorial. The noble contribute significantly to the decline of Rome.

@krankarvolund7771

3 жыл бұрын

@@htoodoh5770 Yeah, of course you will not choose any freedman as a successor ^^ But chosing in your whole family gives a little more choice than your eldest son XD

@htoodoh5770

3 жыл бұрын

@@krankarvolund7771 Just make sure you made clear or else they will be disputes and pretenders.

Thank you. I love the Roman history lessons. Much appreciated.

Ah yes, Congress. Opposite of Progress.

@HVLLOWS1999

3 жыл бұрын

*oof*

@kylewilliams8114

3 жыл бұрын

Con =/= opposite of pro in this case. Like concert or conference.

@cerridianempire1653

3 жыл бұрын

oh shoott

@dubuyajay9964

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, because a dictatorship is a grand improvement. 🙄

@Dimitri88888888

3 жыл бұрын

@@dubuyajay9964 it is

Say what you will about this guy but he ranks as one of my top 5 favorite emperors of Rome simply for his tenacity to be the only Emperor to step into the Colosseum as a gladiator.

@13Voorheespt2

Жыл бұрын

he tortured and clubbed cripples to death in the arena,dressed in his Hercules costume,pretending those he killed to be giants.

@circleancopan7748

Жыл бұрын

And stabbed by Maximus the Merciful.

@none2912

8 ай бұрын

@@13Voorheespt2 All of that is probably false, the senate would spread such rumours about any emperor that threatened their authority just as they did to Caligula

@EL_BEANE_GUY

8 ай бұрын

​@@circleancopan7748Lmao I see what you did there, nice reference

Commodus : I wonder, did your friend smile at his own death? Maximus : You must know. He was your father.

I love the sponsor, I use it myself to organize a novel I am writing, your videos are a huge inspiration, the intrigue and stories are fantastic and the military history has helped me design fantastic armies based off various armies rooted in history.

Your channel has grown so much, I remember seeing this channel when it had 500k subscribers.

This is one of your best videos ever! Although a lot of his story was know to me, you never fail to add new information to one's knowledge.

Great documentry! Thanks, king and Generals team.

I think that if he was so badly described, it is just because he was the son of Marcus Aurelius and for that people were waiting from him to be as efficient and good as his father. I don't think that he was that bad in reality, paranoid yes, but not completely insane

More great looking content. Would love to see some more videos featuring roman engineering in battles. Such as building the stone ramp to the top of a cliff.

Always glad to see notifications about your channel. Keep up the good work

What a good video man, excelent narrations and a lot I didn't knew. Thanks.

To those who loved Gladiator I'd really recommend to watch the 1964 movie "The Fall of the Roman Empire" in wich Christopher Plummer does an awesome job playing Commodus.

@redpando1846

Жыл бұрын

Jesus loves you

I randomly watched Gladiator yesterday and ended up seeing a Marcus Aurelius quote in CyberPunk and a Commodus Documentary from you guys. This is great.

Thank you for another very interesting video!

My god. You made him look veeeeery very cool. I loved it. Very nice. Great recuperation of Commodus! Great video!!!!

These profile videos are great, I'd love to hear about more emperors, perhaps even some Cartheginian or Gaulic leaders too!

Have you considered creating a playlist that did these Roman History videos in historical chronological order? I think that'd be petty awesome

Kings and Generals is the best! Love your Roman stuff still the most! Keep up the good work.

love the Rome content. Please keep it coming. This channel is an absolute treasure.

Talk of an end to a golden age with Commodus gets kind of upended by the fact that the Roman Empire had a tough time under Marcus Aurelius with wars and plagues. In fact, Marcus Aurelius had been almost permanently campaigning on the Danube during most of Commodus' lifetime, and would die of sickness - possibly from some plague, as would his co-Emperor, Lucius Verus, years earlier. So things had already gone down hill, with a pre industrial, agricultural based society. There just isn't enough information to understand how badly impacted the population was by those crises by the time Commodus came to power, but an experienced, shrewd ruler (or college of rulers, a junta) was likely needed. That being said, and taking accounts of the times with a big grain of salt, seems the consensus presented is that Commodus let slip the gains of the years of campaigning of Marcus Aurelius. Plans for Marcomannia and Sarmatia never came to pass. And in later years, Commodus apparently began to act erratically, and seriously mismanage power and governance of at least Rome, the metropolitan area.

@hypothalapotamus5293

Жыл бұрын

People have goldfish memory. To this day, we don't blame people who try to maintain unsustainable policies. We blame the person who gets left with the hot potato when it decides to go off like a grenade.

@cdyn5480

11 ай бұрын

@@hypothalapotamus5293 Yeah. People have biases with the current propaganda.

I'm on Commodus' side, the empire fell into chaos after his death because he was holding it together. He was able to repress the warring factions and the senate and after his death all of that boiled over the top.

Thank you , K&G .

Great video as always.

Kings and generals are to conquer YT with these vicious videos! Keep going, brothers 👊

Actually Commodus don't seem to be asso bad emperor.

@byzantinetales

3 жыл бұрын

Gladiator made him look like that

@kevinreiss-coint2353

3 жыл бұрын

@@byzantinetales And the roman senate.

@kevinreiss-coint2353

3 жыл бұрын

@Bad Horse He murdered a lot of people yes, but to be fair a lot of them were actually trying to assassinate him first because they wanted to take power from him. I wouldn't say he messed up the war, the video explains that he actually defeated the germans before returning to Rome. About insulted the history and name of Rome... When did he actually did it? Like this video explain he actually invested money in public projects, and even if it's true that he invested a lot in public games, it was actually frequently done by many emperors to gain the heart of the peoples. It was probably a political move more than just a waste. The video also explained that he ruled the empire, but he also indulged in arena fighting where he seemed to have been pretty good. It was probably also a campaign of propaganda to show his strength valor to the people of Rome in a period of general peace for the empire. Yes, the senate didn't like it but the people of Rome should have appreciated the spectacle. Also, it seems that he had as his right hand's capable peoples in administration, even if they were a little too betraying and backstabbing between each other. He didn't do everything right, notably by pissing of the senate. But he didn't do everything wrong either.

@simpiusmaximus4962

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinreiss-coint2353 The real problem is what he leaves behind. Rome enjoy such a heights for a long time and people get used to it. But then he destroyed the economy in a few years and what follow is a disaster. With out chad emperor Severus Rome probably fall after that.

@kevinreiss-coint2353

3 жыл бұрын

@@simpiusmaximus4962 I think that the disaster that followed him has much more to do with the fact that had no heir at his death than anything else. It's a bad habit of the Roman empire to fall in disarray because of a lack of a clear heir for the title of Emperor. I don't think that he is actually responsible for the economic crash, Rome was habituated to fill its coffers with the result of the plunder of its campaigns, but in a period of peace, it was difficult to do that. One of Rome main problems was that it was overexpanded for a long time and didn't have the economy to protect all of its borders, but it was much the result of the actions of its predecessors rather than him. And he actually tried to find a way to resolve this crisis.

enjoyed, thanks.

Wonderful video!

This really turns another eye off the commodus most roman histories would tells us about. And it really shines a spotlight of attention and importance on "sources" when and most importantly about certain persons of historical notice.

Come on! I thought the historian Ridley Scott had already debunked all of this nonsense.

@blakexu4943

3 жыл бұрын

Strength and honor.

@htoodoh5770

3 жыл бұрын

Who is Ridley Scott? I only know the film director Ridley Scott.

@arandomoctopus2532

3 жыл бұрын

@@htoodoh5770 The joke is that Gladiator was a historical movie with Ridley Scott being a historian and that he wrote the film to portray the actual story.

@blakexu4943

3 жыл бұрын

@@arandomoctopus2532 you are a liar. Christian Bale is Moses.

How in the world did he find this many sets of identical twins from the same family line to be his advisors? They all look exactly the same despite the age difference. Amazing.

This video makes me feel much better about living in a democracy!

@KingsandGenerals

3 жыл бұрын

Not perfect, but we have it better than anyone before us

@osamabinladenmiliciano5.538

3 жыл бұрын

Democracy leads to Caesaerism (demagoguery) I wouldn’t trust it with my life.

@Alex-ky8bw

3 жыл бұрын

Republic

@BIONICLECLAYPOKEMON

3 жыл бұрын

@@osamabinladenmiliciano5.538 I mean, under democracy, it is _your_ life. Under any other system, it's either the state's life, or the king's life, or the demagogue's life, to do with whatever they please with it. If you have a disdain for Demagoguery, then fight _for_ Democracy, not against it.

@Radiant100

3 жыл бұрын

Yo can you guys please help me? My parents promise that if I can get 10k subs before Christmas they will get me a new Headset , and I really need a new one🥺. If y’all could help that would be great, but if you don’t that’s fine.🎄⛄

Commodus literally did the same thing as Constantine and Diocletian but way in advance, hoes mad

@htoodoh5770

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah true

@stygian8049

3 жыл бұрын

*senate mad

can you do a video on Kushitic queen Amanirenace's battles with romans?

Awesooome narration as always please do a biography on Vespasian my favorite roman emperor a great story!

Good video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

It's hard to picture that both the reigns of Nero and Caligula were part of the golden age of Rome

When you put it like that, Commodus seems pretty based, ngl That ostrich head thing was such a chad move, spitting in the face of the senate

great video

Great content!! Could you make a vídeo about Trajan??? =D

A lot of what we think we know about Commodus is in fact false history made up by Cassius Dio. Commodus went against the senate which rubbed them the wrong way, so after his death Cassius Dio wrote the history of Commodus and tried to make him sound as awful as he possibly could have. Also There are noticeable difference's between Cassius Dio's version of Commodus's life and Herodian's which should make anyone smart suspicious.

The Chinese have a saying: "Even heroes die in the beds of beauties"

@HxH2011DRA

3 жыл бұрын

OOF

@ryanthan3595

3 жыл бұрын

@@ktheterkuceder6825 that poor weak-hearted fella

Good job !

props to your artists

You can get all the Lucius Aurelius Commodus Augustus Pius Felix you want but Maximus Decimus Meridius is still more badass( even if it fictional)

@nicmagtaan1132

2 жыл бұрын

i think the real commodus can go toe to toe with maximus in one v one gladiatorial combat without wounding him beforehand

Feels more like the senate screwed rome over if anything lol.

@Dimitri88888888

3 жыл бұрын

Ye definitely lol

@ressljs

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's kind of unsettling hearing that someone I've been told all my life was a villain that destroyed Rome may have just been a weirdo. And that his enemies may have been the ones that truly did the damage but cast all the blame on him. I'm new to this channel. How reliable are they? I don't want to abandon conventional wisdom because of one KZread video.

@Dimitri88888888

3 жыл бұрын

@@ressljs highly reliable so far. I have not seen anything particularly biased or really bad in anyway.

@thomassenbart

3 жыл бұрын

@@ressljs This video is filled with assumption. If you say the source is biased but do not have another source to back up your thinking, then all you have is speculation, not history.

@kittykattzee

3 жыл бұрын

The emperor’s reputation would always be on the line if they try to mess with the senate. Same thing happened to Domitian. It almost happened to Hadrian but he was too loved by the entire population to suffer a reputation hit. Smart emperors try to placate the senate, like Trajan and Titus, resulting in impeccable legacies. Additionally, note that a lot of the source comes from Cassius Dio, which is of the senatorial class lol.

Brutal and cut throat .... great video!

Can you do one detailing the United States-Barbary pirate conflict?

I find emperors like Commodus and Domitian who were despised by senators really better than they are actually portrayed, especially Domitian.

@darthvenator2487

2 жыл бұрын

Sure pal and Osama bin Laden wasn't a terrorist.

@thomy1955

11 ай бұрын

@@darthvenator2487 Terrorists and Freedom fighters are just terms used by those in power. One himself is always a freedom fighter and those against oneself are always terrorists. That's why Osama Bin Laden in the West is propagated as a terrorist, while Bush fought for "freedom and democracy".

Movie 'Gladiator' lied to me? /cry lol i was young and Kings and Generals was not born.

Enjoyed

Kings and Generals have me very entertained today

Last time I was this early, Rome was still a city state.

Short answer: yes Long answer: still yes

Interesting video

@Retro77691

9 ай бұрын

Commodus Was a Spaniard 🇪🇸

I love the history of the Roman Empire. Please make more documentarties of Rome.

Hot take: even though regarded as one of the Five Good Emperors and appearing in everyone's top 10 Emperor list, it was Marcus Aurelius who marked the end of the golden era.

I'm sure his gladiator fights were guaranteed. This is the Emperor of Rome, it's all about control at all times.

Legend has it that he had a new and innovative throne built which supported on-spot pooping. He named it after himself. Commode

8:16 That senator kind of looks like Rowan Atkinson

Being only a few hundred years before the end of the Western Empire, it makes you wonder what would have happened if any number of events had gone differently. Maybe Commodus would have become even greater than Marcus Aurelius in his old age or if he'd lived longer, maybe he'd have passed on the throne to a capable son who would have been like his grandfather. If things would have happened like this, maybe Rome would have been in better shape to face the 3rd century and repel invaders and maybe would have lasted a lot longer. Who knows..

Conclusion: Commodus whas not a bad emperor per se, he just had powerful enemies. (The Senate and his closest friends)

@MrJH101

2 жыл бұрын

But if one’s closest friends and followers are also commonly one’s own worst enemies, then one should re-examine themself as to why it is their own friends and subordinates seem to constantly evolve into enemies. Commodus probably wasn’t as terrible as they said he was, but he probably wasn’t good either if he kept making so many enemies even from those who were closest to him.

I love your videos

The Netflix series "Roman Empire", season 1, I think does a nice job at humanizing Commodus and making his actions understandable.