It never made sense for Avatar to replace an existing area in one of the two California parks. "Hey Brickey" pointed out that the monorail in both Tomorrowland and the Hollywood Backlot is a serious impediment to Avatar retheming. Retheming the Hollywood Backlot to Zootopia, however, makes a lot more sense, especially since the transition would be less extreme and the monorail would fit right in.

@nicholasdeporto5257

3 ай бұрын

Idk how this would work but they could make the monorail look the monorail from the opening of Way of Water where Jake hijacks the train weapons

Iger's comment specifically mentions the Flywheel effect which is a business term from Jim Collin's book "Good to Great." It refers to doing small things over and over to create something Big. It's actually the most telling part of his statement and everyone seems to have missed it. He is saying Disneyland forward will be piece by piece (land by land), not a huge project all at once. He is speaking to investors here, not us.

Love the way you ended this video! It’s very clear that you are always thinking about how to make your stories a little more detailed. I appreciate your thoughtful efforts!

2:23 it couldn't be Grizzly Peak because it's themeing is integral to GCH.

I never liked the idea of retheming grizzly.. the theme is great! Heck, I skip camping up here in the pacific northwest to go to DL. Having the woods down there is a bonus! Plus, being in the “raft” with other complete strangers is great! You get to face each other and watch their expressions! One of favorite memories is taking pictures for two Japanese foreign tourists while on river run… then I air dropped the pics to them afterwards… I only speak a little Japanese, but friendliness and laughter are two universal languages, right?

Some people love to beat a dead horse, but please Disney give us what appeals to all guests. Ideas like Discovery Bay at Disneyland Park and WestCOT as the third gate is what park goers want to see!

@jamesl1130

3 ай бұрын

Yes, Yes, Yes

@WDWCentral

3 ай бұрын

This!

@matt515o

3 ай бұрын

Not all guests want to see what you want to see. There is virtually nothing that appeals to ALL guests at the same time. Whatever doesn’t appeal to you is probably somebody else’s favorite thing.

@fredlopez5213

3 ай бұрын

Yes! Disney needs to remember that theme parks are a storytelling medium capable of standing on their own. Unfortunately, the executives are obsessed with just turning them into add-on experiences for the movies. IP does belong in the park, but they shouldn't be the only focus.

@disneyguy3116

3 ай бұрын

Disney is no longer appealing to park goers only to new gens of guests

I don’t understand the draw for Avatar. I would rather have more Pixar IP attractions. If anything bring Moana instead of Avatar

@ssgorik

3 ай бұрын

I feel like Avatar is much more unique as a land. Floating mountains, glows at night, etc. Whether I like an IP or not I’m still gonna go so all I care about is: is it interesting to move around in?

@joncarlos716

3 ай бұрын

It’s laziness. It’s already been done/made. It’s cheaper. And faster to do. Why would they it’s just up bob’s alley.

@westmountainmotorsports

3 ай бұрын

Or lilo and stich or something

@InsertCleverNameHere0

3 ай бұрын

There's about $5.2 billion (combined) worth of folks who disagree, it would seem.

@courtneyedwards9124

3 ай бұрын

I don't love the idea either but it's not hard to see why they are attaching a land to two of the highest grossing movies ever with what 4 more movies in development for Avatar.

Speaking as a software engineer, there have been many times where my team worked on a feature and released it only to have the product team kill it later. So it is possible (however unlikely) that a team was working on that no show counter and a different team entirely could be planning to kill reservations.

I have to say that the Avatar experience at Disney world was amazing, inside and out. But I don't like it enough to have it replace an existing land.

I would say it is not possible for Pandora to replace Grizzly Peak. That would ruin the esthetic of the Grand Californian Lodge which is set as a California mountain resort. Grizzly Peak is critical to the hotel setting. The Hollywood Backlot is the most logical spot and that placement does depend on Disneyland Forward as it requires the Eastern Gateway to happen. Certainly, Disney could build Pandora in the expansion area south of the hotels but, the Disneyland Forward rendering does not depict Pandora. That piece of concept art was created years ago, well before the Way of Water was a mega-hit and planned for the Disneyland Resort.

@ChrisLucas3

3 ай бұрын

They're not going to diminish capacity, drop 150 million on demo just to put a dinky Avatar in the back lot. Not to mention James Cameron has to have it his way

@stephenfreitas8546

3 ай бұрын

@@ChrisLucas3 Yes, they will. The Backlot is a wasted space.

I miss the 24 hr days. There is nothing like coming out of Indiana Jones at 2 am and then saying "what's next?"

Hot news! You are a great source David!

Reservations is bad for guests that are not Disneyland Experts. Normal family will be let down by the 'systems' Disneyland has put into visiting the park.

I think it's still possible for Avatar Land to end up at the Hollywood Backlot. As part of the construction of the new parking structure on the east side of the resort Disney is planning to demolish the current bus drop off zone and relocate it to the parking structure (as shown in the renderings). If the Avatar Land was expanded into the entirety of the bus drop off zone, and the Disneyland car drop off zone adjacent to the Hollywood Backlot was also relocated to the new parking structure, Disney would open up about 12.5 acres for construction, substantially larger than the land in Florida.

I bet we see an eastern gateway before we see ground disturbed in the simba parking lot. Thanks David! Love running into you in the parks.

I don't want Pandora to come to Disneyland and let it stay as an Animal Kingdom exclusive but it would be great to retheme its ride in Galaxys Edge as a Speeder Bike ride

@aurorauplinks

3 ай бұрын

you may get something like that. in a surprising place perhaps.

@kentslocum

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. I want exclusivity, such as not duplicating a part of Cars Land at the Magic Kingdom. 😢

@CosmeAcajor

3 ай бұрын

they aren't cloning the pandora from animal kingdom

@OneRedRocket

3 ай бұрын

@@CosmeAcajor yes I know

@stanfordite1

3 ай бұрын

Pandora is never coming to Disneyland.

I love Disneyland! 1980s 100% Love 1990s 95% Love 2000s 90% Love 2010s 95% Love 2020s 55% Love - Feel like they are making decisions that are not good for guests.

@sparkleypegs8350

3 ай бұрын

100% agree

@lawedtenn

3 ай бұрын

Agree

@disneyguy3116

3 ай бұрын

By 2030’s no more love for Disneyland!

@toshibavoodoo

3 ай бұрын

@@disneyguy3116 i KNOW!! Makes sad for my kids!

@stanfordite1

3 ай бұрын

@@disneyguy3116 By the 2030s Disney will have been broken up, taken over and the Make Disney Great Again movement will be underway as the park is pulled backwards to the 1980s.

I really don’t understand the supposed similarity between Pandora and Grizzly Peak. Trees are completely different and there is no wide open spaces. I do appreciate the thoughts / updates.

At the very least, multi day ticket holders should not have reservations. If I go to California for 9 days. I want to get a 4 or 5 day pass and go when it works on the fly on my trip. When I lived there and was a pass holder, we'd sometimes go for only a few hours. This system makes people feel they should stay all day. In a few hours we still spent the same amount of money.

I love these type of videos❤ very exciting news and updates!

Loved the rant at the end! I agree with you 100% it’s crazy. I just had an issue with my cousin that bought a park ticket but had to change the reservation after purchase… he was confused though he was good on the day change, us magic key holders got in fine day of but not him, he had to wait in hopes for there to be a reservation cuz he didn’t actually change the date. I did it quickly for him on the other side of the gate. He got in!! Him and his girlfriend that hadn’t been there in 16 years. So annoying. Once in, everything was fine but they shouldn’t have to go through that. Not everyone can have a homie help them quickly lol. One day ticket. Rarely go and have all that hassle. Come on Disney!

I think it’s too general a statement to say the reservation system is guest-unfriendly. As an out-of-town magic key holder, making reservations is all part of planning the trip, and is super easy to do. Pre-reservations, as someone who visited the parks multiple times a year, I’d notice the afternoons and evenings would be super crowded, and make for a pretty lousy experience even on weekdays. Since the reservation system went in place, I’ve noticed the evenings are still busy, but noticeably less crazy than before. This has improved my family’s experience, where nighttime doesn’t feel as suffocating as it did in the past. I do understand it is a hassle for locals, but there are guests out there like me who are not local, do pay for Genie+ each visit, and see the reservation system as a passive form of crowd control. Anyway, just sharing my two cents about how it’s not necessarily a negative for ALL guests. I definitely empathize with local magic key holders that it’s more a negative than neutral or positive. Lastly, I really miss fastpass and max pass.

@KE-ud2rd

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I don’t have any issues as someone who is out of state now. And no one I know has issues who lives there. I don’t understand the constant complaining about reservations.

@TheChrisJaynes

3 ай бұрын

I'm a Southern California resident. Last year, I was planning a trip to WDW, but I decided not to go. I had experienced the reservation system at Disneyland, and I didn't want to go through that unpleasantness again or on a multi-day scale.

@WindowtotheMagic

3 ай бұрын

@@TheChrisJaynes Alternatively, we sent someone from our team to Walt Disney World in March of last year and they had a wonderful experience. Park Reservations were a non-issue, crowds were at a moderate level and they enjoyed themselves. 6 fun-filled days at the Disney Parks. I guess there’s two ways to look at the situation. Fight it and not go, or accept it and have a wonderful time.

It has been fun speculating BUT it always was Disneyland Forward! yes they needed the approval because the needed the space. BUT the magic words all along where ADD CAPACITY you cant add capacity with a Re Skin or a make over!

@ChrisLucas3

3 ай бұрын

Finally someone gets it!

Love your passionate off the cuff at the end!! So cool!! Please do stuff like that more

The reservation system is in place for the benefit of the out of town guests. They probably spend 10x the money per day as the locals do what with transportation, hotels, food and lodging. If the out of towners experience jammed packed parks they will not come back with their wads of cash which would be bad for Disney’s bottom line.

Agree with your facts about why the reservation system is stupid. And the people that buy up their lies are some dummies. This isn’t new to Disney, it’s a business that has been extremely successful way before covid. They know their data. Also agree about them closing the gates. It’s happened before but not like people make it seem that the poor family from Louisiana isn’t going to get into Disney and now their vacation is ruined.

Disney should take a poll from the fans for suggestions of what to put into the new expansion. That way the fans of Disney feel like it was their ideas, and if it sucks well it's their fault..

I can see them placing avatar in place of finding Nemo and Autopia. It would give the “Tomorrowland “ feel

I'd rather have Arendelle than Avatar.

@sierramist3249

3 ай бұрын

I thought that was also a possibility

@JessAnderson1988

3 ай бұрын

that wouldn't work because with the way Disneyland is designed Arendelle would have to be a part of Fantasyland, but there's no room left in Fantasyland. Avatar is a better choice because it can be its own separate thing without any ties to any other land.

@RaechelSykes

3 ай бұрын

@@sierramist3249 I hope so. But I meant I want it priority 1

@RaechelSykes

3 ай бұрын

@@JessAnderson1988 NOPE. It could literally be anywhere in the expansion they wanted. Tell me that Batuu could only be near Star Tours and Tomorrowland... You see that's not true.

@sierramist3249

3 ай бұрын

@@RaechelSykes I think it is because it was mentioned in thier negotiations with the city repeatedly from what I heard

These unscripted parts are truly great!

I am excited about the future of Disneyland!

Interesting points and ones I believe BUT I wonder if you took into account how much distance has to be cleared between Walnut St and attractions that are indoor or outdoor. Does that make a difference And as you briefly mentioned but I think is the main point. Nothing happens until eastern gateway is almost done. Sure they could shuffle a few things but my guess is they want more people in the parks so they get a revenue boost while building. Add to that a pretty solid price increase and you have your working capital bumper for building the rest.

I’m not an avatar fan but I love the atmosphere and the ride is really fun.

Interesting take. Again, we complain that the park isn’t affordable anymore. Then Disney does something about that, and we say “HA the park isn’t busy enough that’s why they have to discount tickets!!!” Well which one do we want? Do we want the park to be packed and expensive or packed and affordable? Disney fans, why can’t we just decide which one we want? We are so back and forth it’s crazy. We want affordability. WE WANT AFFORDABILITY. Walt would want affordability. So let’s not make fun of, or knock Disney for trying to make it affordable for children to attend Walt’s park during the summer.

I hate hearing that they are going to remove or reskin anything. Going forward they should only add and refurbish attractions, maybe plus them a bit. I still wish they would restore Tomorrowland.

@emilyfink1185

3 ай бұрын

Agree!

@TheChrisJaynes

3 ай бұрын

The solution to Tomorrowland is to rename it. Renaming it to Yesterland, or something similar, is all that is needed. Then, the land would be fine just as it is.

@stanfordite1

2 ай бұрын

They're lying. And when I take over Disney and usher in the Make Disney Great Again era, the only things that will be removed is anything that opened after Indiana Jones because it was then that Disneyland was completed. There is no imagination left in the world. I will be bringing back old attractions, too.

the deal Disney made with the city states that the money that will be spent has tone for entertainment and to increase attendance and capacity. Retiming grizlley area does non of that. yes attendance might increase because it is something new but unless there is a huge capacity increase it would just basically be replacing attractions that are there already. It doesn't really help add to the parks capacity

I started buying annual passes in the late 80's so I could go for dinner, watch a show, and maybe go on a ride or two, as well as occasionally going for a full day now and then. As a pass holder, I went to the park a lot more often, but usually just for a few hours per visit. I no longer live in CA or FL, but if I did, I doubt I would buy annual passes if I had to make advance reservations or had blackout dates. I want to be able to go when I want and visit for as few or as many hours as I want. The whole point of having an annual pass is flexibility.

@justintimeforeverything

3 ай бұрын

Unless the whole point of an annual pass is to save money on multiple visits. Flexibility isn’t necessarily what DL wants for its annual pass holders

What I think is that Disney would have to put the new land closer to the existing park's, than farther because I've been to the Toy story lot before and it's too far away. Now I can see it over by Downtown Disney in one of the lots there and being that it could be connected just behind DCA and that would make it easier. Now would they build a new parking structure on one of the existing parking lots.

David, we totally detest the Reservation System, we agree with you that Disney is not forthcoming with why the Reservation System is still enforced here at Disneyland, it is for Control purposes. Disneyland wants to get us so used to accepting whatever it decides to do any time, we have no say, even if we adore and love Disneyland. So sad.

If retheming Grizzly River Run, they could replace the round ride vehicles to rectangle shaped (and not spinning) as in the artists rendering.

I have no problem with the reservation system

@stanfordite1

2 ай бұрын

Then you are the minority and the reservation will be going away soon thanks to the politicians who will outlaw and make it constitute racketeering.

"Bog" 😂

David, its about time youve come around on this topic. Ive been a critic of your opinions and position on the reservation system, and it only took 3 or 4 years to recognize the truth that the reservation system is a necessary tool in managing park attendance. Other than this one issue i have ever disagree with you on, this is one of the best sources for Disneyland news and why i continued to watch.

So excited! I'm all for more Avatar!

Park size makes reservations needed

FRESHBAKED is DISNEYLAND! Love when watching Freshbaked and then a new video hits right after viewing pass Freshbaked...

Keyholders are probably the best guests to gauge if a day is too busy or not. We've had several occasions where we have walked in and said, maybe tomorrow will be better, and left

I don’t think pandora is going into Disneyland forward bc bob was saying we have a place for it before the voting. Unless they knew they were going to win the vote beforehand.

It's for security. It will never be wide open again.

Hi David. There is a parking lot on the northeast corner of Harbor Blvd and Ball road that Disney bought a few years ago. Do they still have that space for cast members to park? There was some mention of building another parking structure like the Toy Story parking structure. However Disney goes, it will be several years before it will be done. We appreciate how you are trying to get more information about the location. Hopefully it will be revealed soon!

There is a huge amount of parking available at Angel Stadium, 300 days a year. You can easily supply a free shuttle for the 3-mile journey.

Sounds like Disneyland Forward is actually happening. Bob talks about the Avatar experience A LOT.

Maybe they’ll move the bus turnaround to the OTHER side of Harbor Blvd when they build a huge new Eastern parking garage? That would add 3-4 acres of land to Hollywood land’s 5 acres?? 🤷🏼‍♂️

Excellent video!

Not only could you not re-skin a land for Avatar but James Cameron would never have that. He's a go big or go home, go full or go none type of guy

I know I am in the minority, but Avatar is not a draw for me. I did not care for the first movie and didn’t even try to watch the second one. Therefore, the only part of the Disney resort I am okay with sacrificing for Pandora is the parking lot. 😂 Always love your takes and watch every video. Be well!

With the financial commitment already being given to the forward projects I don't see them putting avatar in the grizzly peak because that would require an retheme of the grand california hotel. Hollywood Backlot seriously needs to be a redo probably to more marvel stuff. I think avatar will be attached to Disneyland. They can do what they did with star wars land as far as the transitions between the lands goes.

What Bob/ Josh need to clear up, OR drop, is “experience”.. That’s the real key word… and we all know what to expect if it’s an “experience”

Floor 2 is already cast member parking on both structures

I'm an Avatar fan and I am super excited to see Pandora come to Disneyland, especially in Disneyland Forward, much more room to breath.

@TheChrisJaynes

3 ай бұрын

Why are you an Avatar fan? I'm asking sincerely. Whatever it is you like about it is lost on me, so I'd like to know why movies that I thought were horrendous would be so liked by someone else...so much so that they want a theme park to dedicate space, themeing, and attractions for it.

@orion7763

3 ай бұрын

@@TheChrisJaynes The first Avatar movie is the highest-grossing film of all time, and the second Avatar movie is the 3rd highest-grossing film of all time. Both movies are certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes; you're really in the minority if you think they are "horrendous."

@TheChrisJaynes

3 ай бұрын

@orion7763 First, you weren't the person of whom I was asking this question, but if you were going to respond, with which I'm okay, you could have at least answered my question. I want to know, from someone who liked the films, why you liked the films, especially the first one? Personally, I'm a story guy. First and foremost, the story has to be good. I'm not wowed by special effects. The first Avatar film had great special effects, but the story was dumb, in my opinion. Your opinion is clearly different. All I want to know is why. In person, the handful of people I know who saw the first film all said the same thing, "Great special effects. Stupid story." To my knowledge, none of them saw the second film. I don't think I know anyone who has seen The Way of Water. I'm guessing you've seen both films, which means you liked the first film well enough to see the second. Why? What is it about these films that you liked? I'm not being critical, here. Im not being judgemental. I'm not trolling. I'm simply trying to understand. And let's be fair. I may be in the minority of people who dislike the films from those who have seen them, but the majority of people have never seen them, which means, most people weren't interested in these films from the beginning. I was interested, and I was disappointed.

You are completely right about reservations and completely wrong about your passive acceptance of Tomorrowland as it is. We all make mistakes.

Pixar Pals lot already used the 2nd floor as designated castmember parking, predominantly for a lot of downtown Disney operating participants as well as parkside castmembers and other downtown Disney castmembers. Lilo lot is for Disneyland hotel CM’s

Since the run Disney event is at the harbor Blvd side cast member parking lot, I don’t think they will start anything on the eastern bridge until after September when they have that event…

I'd love to see Cosmic Rewind somewhere. I love rhat attraction.

@aaronmanill4951

3 ай бұрын

@24kgoldplatedvermeil Can easily be set to any IP, Infinity Saga would be great.

Cast members already park on the Daisy level at Mickey and Friends parking lot.

Keep Grizzly Rapids, Pandora meh. Add another attraction to Galaxies Edge and make it more Lucas Star Wars oriented! 😊

@stanfordite1

3 ай бұрын

Grizzly River Run isn't going anywhere. Galaxy's Edge is going bye bye after the government breaks up Disney under antitrust and gives Lucasfilm back to George.

My friend and his wife both work at the Disneyland Resort, and after talking with them I am under the impression that they are having real issues with staffing and keeping employees. While they did not say this specifically, I firmly believe that the reason Disneyland is keeping the Reservation system is to limit guests in the park to account for the lower staff numbers. I honestly think they do not have enough people on staff to run at full capacity.

@freshbakedpresents

3 ай бұрын

you don't need a reservation system to handle that. You simply need to sell fewer tickets. Limit ticket sales and AP sales.

@travisadamson9428

3 ай бұрын

@@freshbakedpresents Personally. I think you are right that they don't need the reservation system for that, but since it is already in place they are using it. I feel that it also allows them to preemptively monitor, limit and/or restrict tickets which just blindly limiting ticket sales would not allow them to do. One example that I could think of is that the reservation system could help them forecast and know with more accuracy when to add or remove Magic Key access based on the number of single day ticket reservations they have. In this way they can maximize the number of guests in the park while also limiting how many they allow in.

@justintimeforeverything

3 ай бұрын

@@freshbakedpresentsexcept ticket sales make more money per visit that magic keys. Why would they want to limit ticket sales to out of town guests? Better option is to stop selling magic keys at all, or just give them a reservation pool only and let direct ticket sales enter whenever. Don’t block magic keys for no shows but magic keys can’t complain if there’s no bookings available when all their fellow magic keys booked and no showed and blocked them out.

@freshbakedpresents

3 ай бұрын

Than stop selling magic keys! The point is, it's not the reservations that control attendance. You can literally let in exactly as many people as you want any time you want without a reservation system simply by limiting how many tickets you sell. This is the fundamental point that people keep missing when defending the system. But they don't want to limit attendance. They simply don't.

@travisadamson9428

3 ай бұрын

@@freshbakedpresents Don't get me wrong, I am not defending the reservation system. I think it is one of the worst things that has happened to Disneyland, ranking right up there with Genie+, the desecration of Splash Mountain, and not making Star Wars land based on the original trilogy. I was merely trying to share why I think they are keeping it. And from what I can see, your simplistic, logical, common sense approach to getting rid of the reservation system has no place in the modern Disney era for whatever reason.

My idea for reservations may be to do it for like holidays and and maybe summer but I don't know. Even my employee pass is super annoying.

Floor 2 of Mickey and friends and Pixar pals (Coco) is already reserved for cast members and is usually pretty full so they’d need to give cast members 2 floors out of the 6 which seems unreasonable

I honestly don’t think there was any other contingency beyond Disneyland Foreword. Pandora wouldn’t fit anywhere in California Adventure, simply because Pandora isn’t in, around or linked to California. They went to great pains to create ‘lore’ for why the normally New York based Avengers had built a campus in California, so they’re firmly trying to keep California Adventure California themed - even if Little Mermaid can vaguely be linked to California. With regards to the change to the booking system for Magic Key, I’ve noticed in videos evening during quiet days that booking are ‘sold out’, so surely they’re putting that info on no shows because too many key holders are booking and not showing up, preventing others from booking. And why do they still have a booking system? If they know how many people are likely to come, they know how many food places to open, how much merch to stock, how many cast members to bring in. It’s nothing to do with the guest experience, it’s all to do with cutting cost.

Preach on them reservations...🙌 Maybe Disney will hear you

Hey Fresh Baked!!

Outro was epic!

On a different subject, have your sources reported that Tinker Bell will no longer do meet and greets because of her back story? It’s been reported by other reliable bloggers. Couldn’t care less about an Avatar land. Didn’t like the movies, wouldn’t like the land.

@WindowtotheMagic

3 ай бұрын

Please share with me a few of your reputable sources, so I can go learn more about this situation. Thanks, in advance.

@clydesims5121

3 ай бұрын

WDW PRO

Disney World also has four parks two water parks, multiple monorails multiple Skyliners over 10 different hotel/resorts not needing reservations is a completely different thing than Anaheim.

I still think Avatar will be connected to Critter Country.

Avatar is not for us die hards Disneyfied fans and Disney knows that they’re are not appealing to us only to the new and average guests as it’ll be turning into WDW west !

@Mammothsaber-4457

3 ай бұрын

The average park goer is where most of their money comes from die hards have always been the minority every theme park company appeals to the masses.

@disneyguy3116

3 ай бұрын

@@Mammothsaber-4457 what I mean is Disney doesn’t want the local and AP guest anymore they want the out of town guest to come and stay several days! That way they can control everything they build!

@stanfordite1

3 ай бұрын

@@Mammothsaber-4457 Die hards are the majority and the only guests who matter. When I take over Disney and make it great again I will cater only to the die hards.

Its going into tomorrowland. After the fiscal losses the company is facing im not sure funding is there beyond repuposing tomorrowland. But who knows. I hope freshbaked is correct! But before they build avatar they need to fix tomorrowland if they arent gonna build it there.

@ShredzOfGaming

3 ай бұрын

The amount of money it’d take to demo and then build up Avatar in Tomorrowland, definitely not the route. Disney has no problem with Tomorrowland and will leave it as is. It’s always busy so it’s unfortunate that they won’t remodel it anytime soon, but true. I think we’d all like a new Tomorrowland, who knows when it will happen though.

@LJC123

3 ай бұрын

Right? Tomorrowland should have been fixed up and they should have left NOS and critter country alone. They were perfect as is!

Most people don’t care at all about avatar lol

Of course it is logical to place it within Disney Forward. They used it as leverage with the City... it wouldn't work in either Grizzly Peak nor Hollywood Backlot. Why take away original ideas to import IP properties?? Zootopia would fit in the backlot and leave Grizzly Peak/Soarin' alone.

I’m kinda bummed. I’d prefer a blue sky land where engineers can make their own magic instead of making a monolithic IP copy and paste land. Sad.

Avatar has multiple new movies coming so I can see why it is appealing. Same for Arendale and Frozen that has multiple new movies coming in the years. I don’t understand why people are persistent on Neverland. I just don’t see them investing in something like that unless they have more Peter Pan movies planned.

I just hope I live long enough to see it. Disney construction moves so slow.....😅

They need to change the no show policy to the morning of. My aunt was sick and was unable to cancel her reservation the day of.

@justintimeforeverything

3 ай бұрын

You get 3 cancellations in 90 days so one day sick shouldn’t be end of the world

I personally am very excited for an Avatar land especially if it ends up being different attractions than Orlando. Flight of Passage is cool but its visuals aren’t quite there for me and many others. The land itself is breathtaking and I’m a little partial as well because I spent 2 years working on Avatar 2 while they were filming here in LA. Considering we can all but almost guarantee there will be a Frozen Land and probably an Encanto/Coco Land, possibly Zootopia, I think and it’s sounding like there will be plenty of options to fulfill nearly everyone’s appetite for new attractions with their favorite characters and lands.

Suggestions please. I’m coming all the way from New Zealand Jan/Feb for 16 days. Reservations make me nervous. It is cheaper for 16 days to get magic key. BUT you can only reserve 5 days. Do I get MK and hope for the best? Or pay more to make sure we don’t miss days? Any tips or tricks to help?

Doesn’t it say Walt’s ordinal theme park, so that would mean Disneyland?

The results of DisneylandForward has my attention. And I hope it does go forward as I follow it. But as much as Iger keeps boasting about Avatar coming to Disneyland, he keeps forgetting about other attractions, like the Avengers e-ticket ride, that still haven't broken ground yet.

Didn't go in April, because no reservations available. Went to San Diego and Sea World instead. Very disappointing. The date was April 17 th.

I wonder how much underground parking they could (freshly) bake into designs for whatever goes atop existing lots.

Hey bricky did a video of how Avatar can fit into certain parking lots I'm very interesting video and now David's talking about it

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Thanks for sharing.

no other theme park dont have reservation i dont think but i would not put Avatar on disneyland never just saying but love you fresh baked

How often do can you no show? Do they reset?

The one thing needed from Disney to really be rid of the reservation system is to actually show how busy the parks are. I used to use mouse wait to see the capacity percentage in the parks. If Disney were to actually do that it would really create the same buzz you get when you see a really low wait time for a ride. A good compromise would be to allow key holders to go to the parks after 5-6 pm without a reservation. The reservation system is a hurdle that needs to die.

But how do you get from the park to this area?

Pandora is an awesome experience in AK and that’s what makes traveling to both California and Florida fun and unique…because each park has different experiences. I would rather see Disney create a new experience at Disneyland forward and not put the same stuff at both parks

Everytime you say put it in Grizzly Peak makes my eye twitch. It's the only land that hasn't changed. That would be tragic

This is not exciting They have no plan It’s California Adventure all over again

I'm not really thrilled about pandora, why cant we get something new? Some land only the Disneyland resort has. This copy and paste of rides and lands is getting old. 🙄

Disney keeping the reservation system was confirmed when they discounted summer tickets. They are likely seeing a downward trend in reservations as summer is rearing its head and they didnt like what they saw. So for what I think might be the first time ever they discounted summer tickets to get ahead of a summer lull. I hate the reservation system but it clearly gives Disney the data they want to know exactly where the parks are at. Disneyland especially likes data and looks at guests as numbers and the reservation system is solely designed to artificial inflate certain days. Not only does it flaten the curve but it raises the attendance on those days that typically would be slower. Its diabolical but genius on Disney's part.