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@DasIllu

4 жыл бұрын

you kow... if you say so i must obey, damsel or not. Now lemme watch the video :D

@TodayIFoundOut

4 жыл бұрын

Serious question but would you rather we put it in the middle of the content to interrupt it, or the easiest place to skip if you don't like it? We think the beginning works best. The other is super annoying in our opinion. No advertiser will pay to be at the end of a 20 min video so those are your choices if you want a video at all. The non-sponsored ones lose money in most cases, so these ones are needed to make the channel go at all. -Daven

@hockeyking30

4 жыл бұрын

Today I Found Out I decided to click and watch not because of the content, but because of the brutal honesty in the thumbnail

@ddylla85

4 жыл бұрын

@@TodayIFoundOut I suggest an ad split into two segments 1-2min each. Placed at the beginning and midpoint of each video. If you can't please 'em... make 'em spontaneously combust. ;) - Y'all are amazing! Keep up the great work!!

@claudiobizama5603

4 жыл бұрын

@@TodayIFoundOut I prefer the at the beginning but I don't mind int the middle if it isn't too out of the place btw do you lose a considerable view retention if the ad is placed at the beginning?

The knights didn't RESCUE damsels in distress... They kidnapped women and put them into distress.

@Claytone-Records

4 жыл бұрын

F Huber, Oooohhhh!!!

@martinhanke1670

4 жыл бұрын

6 of one.....

@Claytone-Records

4 жыл бұрын

Martin Hanke, Umm...half dozen of the other?

@GeraldM_inNC

4 жыл бұрын

Sad but true.

@mystii8134

4 жыл бұрын

F Huber so they could save them from their single status.

A strongly worded letter to Parliament has been the English go-to weapon for hundreds of years.

@Beryllahawk

4 жыл бұрын

The pen is mightier than the sword? Kinda?

@dambrooks7578

4 жыл бұрын

And they always write back 😀

@commonberus1

4 жыл бұрын

Also it is probably the sensible thing to do. Charging in with sword drawn might get yourself and, worse, the person you are trying to rescue killed in the fracas, however good it might look in the story book.

@levilandes1719

4 жыл бұрын

You forget the mighty drive-by disagreement.

@dimitriosmakropoulos8641

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a strongly-worded letter to The Times.

'Chivalry is dead', women claim. 'It was never born', Simon counters...

@marvalice3455

4 жыл бұрын

Sense chivalry is just "being a good knight" I should hope it is dead

@marajade2932

4 жыл бұрын

Chivalry is dead? Good lets burn it together, get some ale and rob wayfares 👍^_^👍

@timothyhouse1622

4 жыл бұрын

Funny, the only ones i hear complaining about "chivalry" being dead are incels upset women don't drop their panties after the neckbearded potato opened a door for them.

@CaliMeatWagon

4 жыл бұрын

The modern idea of Chivalry is incorrect. Chivalry, quite simply, is a code of conduct which can change from group to group. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry

@absalomdraconis

4 жыл бұрын

@@CaliMeatWagon : And indeed, such standards are mostly dead.

well, that´s was extremely depressing and disturbing at the same time

@2degucitas

4 жыл бұрын

I need chocolate now.

@LnPPersonified

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to European history.

@daviesdavies538

4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating video but the amount of times the word rape was said made me *shudder* so glad I wasn't born in those times

@ericofire

4 жыл бұрын

history debunking myths is often so. There are few times in history in even fewer places where things were briefly civil

@daviesdavies538

4 жыл бұрын

@White Brad Bad dude in fairness there are some places in the world it really hasn't

Woman in distress: "HEEEEELP!!!!" Knight: *Rides in on his horse* "Don't worry! I'm here to help!" Knight: *proceeds to join the pillaging*

@THExRISER

3 жыл бұрын

Somebody make this into a meme with that one JoJo part 5 scene where the gang kicks a random civilian while he's down.

@dimitriosmakropoulos8641

3 жыл бұрын

Only wealthy women were pillaged.

Many years ago, as a young D&D Dungeon Master, my regular group of players complained that I never gave them a damsel in distress to rescue. Accepting this was something they desired, I had their party encounter word of a damsel in desperate need of rescue. Off they rushed to track down this rumor with nary another thought. After several battles with the minions of an evil sorceress, they did indeed find the damsel. Charles Damsel, actually. The somewhat portly asthmatic son of a lesser known merchant baron. After slaying the sorceress, they learned she was his birth mother, who had liberated him from an abusive father. They were given a single gold coin each for their noble efforts by the miserly father. The players never asked me for a stereotypical adventure again.

@marrqi7wini54

3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh boy... That must have been a fun one for them and you.

@Elyseon

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds cruel. Hope they got a follow up quest to correct their mistake.

@kylemendoza8860

3 жыл бұрын

Very funny

@CainLatrani

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elyseon Oh, THEY decided to make it their mission to resurrect the sorceress and reunite her with her son. Spent the next bunch of game sessions on that alone. When they succeeded, they joined her in putting dear old dad in his place. Not violently, mind you, as they were now terrified of killing anyone, but they did ruin him.

@CainLatrani

3 жыл бұрын

@@marrqi7wini54 Very much so. Lead to a long adventure that they chose to go on. They wanted to bring the guys mom back, and financially ruin his father. Succeeded, too. Tons of fun. Best part is, I barely had to do a thing! They decided what the adventure would be.

So the the Chivalric Code was like the Pirate's Code; more "guidelines" than actual "rules"?

@TodayIFoundOut

4 жыл бұрын

And even where someone might by some miracle follow the vague notion of it in a given instance (usually just if it benefited them at the time), it was only for the noble ladies. ;-) -Daven

@YourFunkiness

4 жыл бұрын

It's more like a set of ideals that most people didn't bother practicing.

@nebfer

4 жыл бұрын

It was a largely undefined code than a set of codified rules, A knight or a group of knights would effectively make up their own, and as long as he held to them, well he was chivalric, regardless of any questionable things he might of done along the way.

@Waterdust2000

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same quote from PoTC. Really gives me more to say.. just not in reply mode.

@_Abjuranax_

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much. While high moral values were promoted as ideal, reality of said virtues often fell far short of the mark. A lot of it goes back to the early medieval church setting guidelines upon knights to curb some of their rougher qualities, especially towards women, peasants, the in-firmed, and of course the church. Barring this impossible task, at least not on religious holidays or the Sabbath.

So, "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" could be played in history class for an accurate take on chivalry... 🤔

Me before watching: Ooh, new Today I Found Out Video! And it's about knights! Me after: *Hello darkness my old friend....*

@federalnickel

4 жыл бұрын

My feelings exactly.

@diamondzieman5508

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. I'm with you... I didn't know this would just make me feel dead inside

@Elyseon

3 жыл бұрын

I already knew what to expect. Screw the knights. Make way for the paladins.

@CatchBurning

3 жыл бұрын

After this video I got very angry... ‘women is the property of men’ where did they get that bull-it from?! Oh yeah, that’s right: I know exactly where they got it! But I can’t say it without people getting angry, so I won’t say it! But that makes me even more pissed! Ugh!!!... Sigh* I love the video, I get pissed off when people get raped, I just need a glass of water and some fresh air. 😊

@johnathonherring2583

3 жыл бұрын

Let's all save some damsels and buck this disturbing trend!

Does King John saving his mother Eleanor of Aquitaine from captivity count? He for sure dashed off to save her! Apparently he got there in record time. And sieged the castle. That really happened. Eleanor also, in her younger years, ran though the countryside, at night, with just a couple retainers to escape kidnappers because they wanted her lands via forcible marriage, to meet the man SHE wanted to marry, who became Henry II. Quite a life, hers.

@asteroses

4 жыл бұрын

Damsel means a young woman, preferably unmarried, and the trope classically has a romantic/sexual aspect. Eleanor being quite elderly by then, his mother (notice they didn't count cases of male relatives coming to rescue female relatives), he was a king not a knight, and the motives were far more multifaceted than saving just Eleanor, that's probably why it wasn't included.

@Amy_the_Lizard

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, personally I'd count it, but asterose does make a valid point. Too me it still seems close enough though.

@jamieyoho2310

3 жыл бұрын

We have Eleanor to thank for these tales. She invented the concept of courtly love.

@Keepit10011

3 жыл бұрын

@@Amy_the_Lizard g nuff 👍

@gonefishing167

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but said John kidnapped Isabelle of Angeloume on her way to,her wedding with Hugh de Lusignane. They had many children. After the death of king John, Isabella married Hugh de lusignane, not the original one but the son of!!!!!( could have been nephew but I do think son)

12:10 How British! "a very sternly worded letter"

@dambrooks7578

4 жыл бұрын

It is a good method of developing a pen pal relationship.

It's not their fault! The knights were made violent by computer games!

@Miranox2

4 жыл бұрын

I played Mount and Blade once and then started uncontrollable urges to kill. True story.

@RCAvhstape

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, it was heavy church organ music and easy access to swords and lances.

@RictusHolloweye

4 жыл бұрын

@@RCAvhstape - Not to mention the violent theatre plays of the time!

@antivaxxersgotnoidea8032

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it was all about the dumb thing religion, imagine being that stupid you kill for a made up story 😂

@gargwinvinesnake6961

4 жыл бұрын

Filthy tapestries, sculptures, drawings and other art work showing naked women corrupted the minds of the young men to view women as objects!

They "rescued" damsels from the "distress" of not being married to them.

@woooweee

4 жыл бұрын

Its true, many isis or bokoharam brides actually refused to go back when offered rescue, this is just how it is. Now make this deal a higher status knight and I can see many would just take the deal.

@asteroses

4 жыл бұрын

Ah look, Mr. Wooo "Women are Literally Burdens" Weee chimed in with something that isn't a copy-paste redpill screed for once. Too bad all the nuance is still completely over his head.

@andrewprahst2529

25 күн бұрын

​@@asterosesI don't know how you accused him of missing nuance when he only added nuance to the conversation while you literally subtracted nuance from the conversation by lumping his comment in with vaguely similar sounding ideas.

Okay, but did a medieval knight ever actually slay a dragon?

@davidmcguire6043

4 жыл бұрын

Duh. Where do you think all the dragons went.

@talmiz101

4 жыл бұрын

now that is the real question 🤔🤔🤔🧐🧐🧐

@ciaheadmechanic0809

4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean literally or metaphorically (as in Welshmen)?

@vernscheck2658

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@khecidsdragons7777

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds more plausible at this point

Sad. And then if the woman successfully defended herself... This "system" would punish her as the villian, instead of acknowledging her as the victim.

@aetheonpro396

4 жыл бұрын

Not really, today is a total U-turn.... Today, men are acused falsely more and more and have their reputation permanently destroyed aswell as their life threatened all because of a claim in the age of believe all women..... I am a direct victim of that... And what's worse.... The women that accuse the men rarely get repercussions

@aetheonpro396

4 жыл бұрын

@rwsthedemonking Well the middle east is different than the west you know, in the west, its flipped around..... In the west its trial without evidence assuming the man is guilty a U-turn from the past.....

@odinson5911

4 жыл бұрын

@@Camille-dq8qg Nah, men are the ones who are always accused nowadays.

@aetheonpro396

4 жыл бұрын

@rwsthedemonking Lol... Nice sarcasm

@d.rabbitwhite

4 жыл бұрын

@@aetheonpro396 Yes, yet, what happens in individual situations isn't the same as a systemic situation. Systemically, the the female is still punished. And since you anecdoted, I will anecdote: I can count without hesitating, 7 women I know, who were raped. Some refused to go to the police because they had already experienced the abject humiliation of accusatory questioning, or were in close association with another who had experienced it. The ones who did go, likewise experienced accusation, put up with it, only to have nothing ever be done, while the woman had to change her entire life because it was a person from work. Let me add, that the issue with false accusations would not really exist as a gendered thing, were it not for centuries of patriarchal sexism informed by hierarchical philosophic practice.

They made the damsel distressed

Man, those guys were real jerks.

@prismglider5922

4 жыл бұрын

People are* real jerks

@oberstul1941

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, and I hear that the nazis were also not very nice people. smh

@a5cent

4 жыл бұрын

Just like today.

@LadyWhinesalot

4 жыл бұрын

too bad nothing has changed

@johnw2026

4 жыл бұрын

Compared to what? Last I checked there's jerks driving up and down the highway with their middle fingers sticking out the window every friggin day! 🙄

So there are plenty of stories of knights rescuing damsels while apparently in reality the complete opposite was true? Looks like once again the “good old days” weren’t so good after all.

If you're wondering, knights are still around! They've just rebranded as fraternities

Okay, he wasn't a "knight," but he was nobility in his part of the world, and he did rescue his kidnapped wife... the rescuer: Genghis Khan. ;-)

@swilson5320

4 жыл бұрын

Whoa!

@MsAngelique

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Even though she was raped and pregnant, he not only kept her, he also claimed the child as his. He wasn't able to have the child legally inherit his title, but damn he cared for that child. Then when Khan became a super fucking rich Emperor he made his wife the Empress with her own lands, river, and her own court. She was said to be his closest advisor and clearly his favorite wife. I think he had 9 (?) children with her. Can someone please explain to me why the polygamous and possibly rapey Genghis Khan was apparently a good damn husband and fulfilled the "save the damsel" trope?!

@Sara3346

4 жыл бұрын

@@MsAngelique Because people are complex?

@andrewsuryali8540

4 жыл бұрын

What is funny is that his own dad fulfilled the opposite role because he kidnapped Temujin's own mom from another tribe.

@eugenemartone7023

4 жыл бұрын

Detham yeah he was, helping to repopulate areas after killing most of the men, his benevolence knew no bounds!

Wasn't gonna click but the title said "seriously interesting!!" So I had to...

@valiroime

4 жыл бұрын

I saw “make popcorn “. I’m in.

@yourstatementisrightunlike7366

3 жыл бұрын

You fraud

@halestorm123

3 жыл бұрын

Stop stalking me with screwdrivers

Well. This episode was extremely depressing.

But the damsel was always in another castle.

@TheGuyAlwaysOnTime

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Drake no wonder none was ever rescued

I'm starting to feel like this channel and you are personally responsible for my youtube addiction. Not necessarily a bad thing.

@anewspinonthings

4 жыл бұрын

This dude and his writers get me through my work days.

@Rick_Cleland

4 жыл бұрын

Hi there!!

@rickc2102

4 жыл бұрын

@@Rick_Cleland Rando Calrissian has a thirst only random women on KZread can quench 🤦‍♂️

@Rick_Cleland

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickc2102, How very dare you, Sir! I said how dare you!!

@Rick_Cleland

3 жыл бұрын

@@sneed472, You my good Sir need more Toilet Duck in your diet.

Oddly enough, the one historic event I could recall involved a King/knight who is usually uniformly reviled. After the death of Richard the Lionheart, John became King of England. His brother Geoffrey's son Arthur (Geoffrey had died), contested Johns claim to the throne. In 1201, forces loyal to Arthur besieged the castle of Mirabeau where Eleanor and her daughter named Eleanor "the fair maid of Britanny" were staying. John was in the field at some distance away when he heard of the siege. Realizing if he got there with troops quickly, he could raise the siege and recover his mother and sister. But he knew he could not get his forces there fully armed and armored..they would move too slowly. He gathered his forces, told them to disarm and take off their armor and ride their fastest horses to a nearby castle which was under his control. During the ride, his forces were essentially unarmed. He quickly arrived at his nearby castle, grabbed arms and armor there, suited up and rode out, broke the siege and got the aged Eleanor (his mother) and sister free. France was astounded (as were most Englishmen) because this daring and dangerous action was completely unexpected in John. For a brief time he was actually feted for his daring. (of course later he captured the teen Arthur, (born March, 1187, died probably in 1203) threw him into Rouen where he got "disappeared." Dynastically speaking, Arthur probably had a better claim to the crown than John as he was the eldest son of John's older brother. However a fair number of Englishmen weren't all that happy with the idea of a young unexperienced king who had been essentially raised by the French...whom the English had been fighting for decades. BUT...John and his Knights DID ride to rescue/release his mother and sister in a daring manner...the fact that it also ended in John's only real rival to the English crown getting erased...well...never mind. Knights rode to the rescue of imprisoned "damsels;" (although at near 90 years of age and after two marriages to kings, Eleanor wasn't really the classic Damsel any longer...but she was a female and John's mommy!)

People seem to think that these incidents happened often just based on a small sample when I am reminded by one of Shadiversity's videos on medieval myths that it was often the unusual things that people recorded. Given the printing press wasn't invented or had just been invented depending on where in medieval history you start, the unusual or bad happenings being recorded makes sense since those are the things the people in charge would need to know about. And if mostly bad things got recorded then there must have been many times better things that never made it into records simply because they were everyday life. I know our own news records would make it seem like our lives were constantly ending to anyone who might read them in the future.

@LindaGailLamb.0808

4 жыл бұрын

'If it bleeds, it leads' ? I've heard that saying about today's news... and it was probably the same 'back when' ... whatever "when" you're looking at.

@edwardfontaine7108

4 жыл бұрын

Good point

@xandercorp6175

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone seems to have a head on their shoulders.

@Elyseon

3 жыл бұрын

Humans are still trash though.

@kylemendoza8860

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't. It was Invented in the 1400 hundreds.

My first thought: “Wow, the Robin Hood:Prince Of Thieves scenario w/ Marian and the Sheriff of Nottingham was historically correct?”

@donaldwatson7698

4 жыл бұрын

Same first thought.

@Lowlandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I figured that out when I was a kid and my image of Robin Hood was a fox, Sheriff was a fat wolf?

@katiewenta

4 жыл бұрын

Braden Scott Thanks for your kindness. To clarify: I’m referring specifically to the attempted rape scene in the live action movie. No attempted rape scene, to my recollection, in the animated version.... hence, the reference to the historical accuracy of the specific movie title I mentioned, not Disney’s.

@vulcanviper

4 жыл бұрын

Good thing shes got her iron underwear on.

@Parbruek

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

"We'll leave it to you to decide whether petitioning parliament counts as a knight rescuing a damsel in distress." Hey, whatever gets the job done. And kudos for trying to make a positive change that will protect others from similar fates in the future. I'd call that the first act of genuine chivalry that appears on this list.

So, the whole chilvalric defense of ladies idea was an earnest but feeble attempt to try to stop knights from being jerks....

@nozecone

4 жыл бұрын

"Jerks"? That's pretty mild for kidnappers and rapists.

@leperwolf7287

3 жыл бұрын

I got a few other words that better describe it... But, I want to keep what's left of my dignity.

@alwaysdriveing

2 жыл бұрын

When that failed they started the first crusades as a way to get all the rapist out of the countryside.

So, "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is more historically accurate than one might think? The tail of Sir Lancelot in his own particular... "Idiom, Sir?"

@sarina76667

4 жыл бұрын

wirelesmike73 incidentally all of the members of Monty Python are extremely well educated. Their sketches were more often than not commentary on politics, historical events and concepts, and British society of the time. They were essentially showing modern and historical society for what it really was, a bunch of romanticized stupid.

@wirelesmike73

4 жыл бұрын

@@sarina76667 Oh, I know. Huge fan here. They were brilliantly on point in the most gloriously absurd ways. R.I.P. Terry Jones. :(

Lol @ the pleading hope in Simon's voice, " they had to have rescued one right?"

I'd heard (mostly through Terry Jones' documentary Medieval Lives) that many of the stereotypes of the period were in fact romanticizations made up by Victorians.

Which is why the stories still survive, and are retold and elaborated on and turned on their heads and so forth. We still dream that it COULD happen, or could have happened then, and could still happen now; we still want to believe that if we (male or female) are in distress, in dire need of help, in actual peril of our dignity, chastity, or lives...that SOMEONE would care enough to at least try to help us. And, in some ways at least, women are still expected to be passive, not active participants in their own rescue: women who DO rescue themselves are often considered to have not been in such a bad situation after all, when such incidents are discussed later. But maybe, a thousand years from now, this will simply be a quaint old bit of historical "dirty laundry" that school children can snicker over.

@DFX2KX

4 жыл бұрын

For what it's worth, I'm a guy, and I just about cheered at the monitor when the one lady got *herself* out of a Jam, more the once! That said, I'd *like* to think I'd be the sort of person to drop what I'm doing and come to someone's aid. Had a roommate for years. Had one night where we where both terrified of shit going down and I told her that they where going to have to go through me. They'd get through me just fine, but they'd have to go through me. I think that's why these stories appeal to guys so much: We're conditioned to be protective of women (while somehow also treating them like shit in a lot of cases), and the knight rescuing the damsel is an archetype of it.

Did a knight ever rescue a damsel? Well no, not really, unless you stretch the definition, and look at it from a certain angle. Then kind of.

@appleciderhorror12

4 жыл бұрын

What is a righteous knight to do when there're all these rich (soon to be) widowed damsels in distress simply because they lack a husband?

@Mysticgamer

4 жыл бұрын

From a certain point of view.

@muglymae7408

4 жыл бұрын

From a greedy, selfish, plundering, misogynistic, rapist’s point of view, then sure, it was wonderful. Makes me very scared to know more about my own ancestors. Were they monsters too?

@woooweee

4 жыл бұрын

@@muglymae7408 50 shades of grey and twilight, you assume the women didn't want to social climb or bring about their own "theft" at times, like the western girls who end up with isis fighters.

@kayakat1869

2 жыл бұрын

@@woooweee like the one girl who joined ISIS? Yeah, she really represents every woman on earth.

Well, Don Quixote isn't gonna be happy about this.

@PiotrDzialak

4 жыл бұрын

He will pass on it, he has got many windmills to worry about at the mooment.

@Elyseon

3 жыл бұрын

The madman was more true to the ideal than any of those mongrels.

*Why Yes, but actually No.*

So disturbing how authorities just didnt find these kidnappings, forced marriages & rapes something to take seriously enough back then to interject!

@Endoptic

4 жыл бұрын

The authorities that were legally torturing and killing randomly accused people almost daily? Law was an excuse and based in the generally notion that might supposedly proved divine providence. Just as now authority was the bastard that just happened to land in power, by hook and crook. I doubt you'd like to see even actual modern proceedings in either courts or legislature...

@daviesdavies538

4 жыл бұрын

@@Endoptic indeed they could randomly accuse & imprison people etc. usually under the basis of religious reasons, which was utter BS anyway. The courts & authorities still mandated basic laws to follow though regarding murder, theft etc. It's odd that an assaulted, kidnapped woman had to escape & petition the courts to annul the forced marriage esp since kidnapping attempts happened scarily often.

@Elyseon

3 жыл бұрын

Further proof that man and god alike are trash.

Funny how the one European story I'm aware of that is a historic example of someone trained for the knighthood at a young age and actually wound up rescuing a damsel in distress (from a convent, yet) has a woman as the rescuer. Her name was Julie d'Aubigny. Master swordswoman, opera singer, unashamed bisexual. You can well believe how the average French person in the "better" classes would've seen her. A woman she had fallen in love with was thrown into the convent by her parents to protect her from d'Aubigny and the shame of their relationship. Not only did she rescue her maiden fair, she burned the convent down.

@Elyseon

3 жыл бұрын

All convents should have been burned down. With the nobility and clergy inside.

I remember this was a myth developed by retelling of similar stories through the ages, originally the enemies were carnivores and bandits stealing cattle which transformed into dragons and bandits, this was codified into tales of someone setting on a quest to recover the cattle Then when societies developed the idea of going and rescuing the cattle looked bland so it was changed to dragons and bandits stealing and hoarding riches, then christianity came along and it was wrong to see a Main Character expecting to receive riches after eliminating the dragons/bandits and so it was changed to rescuing a woman, usually one of high standing so the main character could receive riches after marrying her I assume the idea of chivalry developed from the renaissance onwards as a gathering of historical ideals

The Late Terry Jones did a great episode of Medieval Lives on this

@tremorsfan

4 жыл бұрын

This is the first time I've heard about Terry Jones is dead.

@cristinitacorazon3377

4 жыл бұрын

A true loss.

@Lowlandlord

4 жыл бұрын

@@tremorsfan Me too, 21st. That sucks, he was awesome man. I know he had medical issues for years, couldn't talk anymore.

@Lowlandlord

4 жыл бұрын

@@_Abjuranax_ Damsel was a prince though, the princess was several times his size, she had HUGE...tracts of land. Big tits too.

Aristocratic men of land, power, and influence had much more in common with Harvey Weinstein than Sir Galahad.

@WouldntULikeToKnow.

Жыл бұрын

As goes with power and wealth generally.

Help help sir knight: i am in distress!! Never fear my dear damsel: i'll write a sternly-written letter to parliament!! um..... never mind.

What are the odds? Was just watching _Ismo Leikola's_ comedy bit on chivalry, when this popped up. (Woman to a knight): _"Sir, can I vote?"_ (Knight bows for courtesy): _"No milady, you may not!"_ ... but you know, chivalry was good times, right? 😁

@TheLobstersoup

4 жыл бұрын

The knight couldn't vote either ;)

Damn... knights were pretty rapey at the time.

@sweetlolitaChii

4 жыл бұрын

@Dan Ryan I mean, it was rape just not legally at the time.

@VcassCsoto

4 жыл бұрын

I’m wondering if they were rapey out of fear of just hooking up with the local slut. I mean I don’t want to have to smash my dick with a hammer as much as the next dude.

@Kendro311

4 жыл бұрын

He sure spun it that way

@Riwillion

4 жыл бұрын

@@VcassCsoto Well it was clearly mostly about gaining free lands, titles, money etc., not really about being horny (although the absolute vast majority of male > female rapes are motivated by sexual gratification, it is not some made-up "asserting control over women" BS 4th wave feminazis made up). Thing is, these dudes could fuck pretty much anyone they wanted anytime they wanted. If they wanted to just get laid, they could have done that in a million ways, each easier and safer than kidnapping and raping a noblewoman.

@shawbros

4 жыл бұрын

That was how they flirted back then.

You rescue me from boredom every day!

When you think about it, these stories seem to highlight the fact that most nobility were assholes and the wealth and power that they came by through unjust means went on to benefit their families for generations to come; same story different age.

I decided to click and watch not because of the content, but because of the brutal honesty in the thumbnail

One GLARING problem: Fantastical elaboration does not mean a story is false; rather it means that events are interpreted differently by those with a different cosmology and interpretive schema than our modern one. The account of the Trojan War included all sorts of diefic interventions and supernatural events. Yet, we know from Schliemann's excavations that Troy and the War were actual real events, remembered through the lens of a Classical (rather than modern) people. So, the assertion that accounts seem to mirror the courtly aspirations of the time means absolutely NOTHING in regards to the truth or falsity of the event; it simply means it was remembered and recorded by a medieval populace.

@Hungabrigoo

3 жыл бұрын

I see your point, problem is that no one know how much of these fantastic stories are true, so we can't really base factual statements upon them.

Reminds me of the pirates code. "Its more like a suggestion than rules"

Excellent video. The romanticisation of the medieval is a complete lie. We actually live in the best of times right now.

@WouldntULikeToKnow.

Жыл бұрын

Yes, as a woman I would NEVER want to go back in time.

A video that put "seriously interesting" in the thumbnail or title I would immediately consider clickbait, but there is one channel I trust when I see something like that, and that channel is TIFO. And again I just love how well researched your videos are, especially the ones with Daven as the author

Interesting to note, the term *'Honeymoon'* comes from this time. Originally used to describe the time between a damsel being abducted and the time the family gave up searching for her and was then willing to negotiate with her captor... romantic...

@PiotrDzialak

4 жыл бұрын

Why is it call "honeymoon" then? Like a month of what exactly? Negotiations with a captor fall far away from honey.

I'm really happy I wasn't a woman back in those times. Because holy cow.

@kylemendoza8860

3 жыл бұрын

Or middle east today

@Klaaism

3 жыл бұрын

A woman of means anyways. Otherwise you were butchered with the rest of the peasantry... and the livestock

So difficult to find a pious priest those days.

@cristinitacorazon3377

4 жыл бұрын

So many of them were on someone's payroll. They had to have some kind of income to pay for their mistresses or young boys, plus their luxuries.

@supertaoman12

4 жыл бұрын

Or any days

@brandyromano

4 жыл бұрын

Cristinita Corazon inthose days they were still allowed to marry I believe.

Jesus fucking christ. The amount of research done for this video, sifting through court records hundreds of years old is insane. Mad props to the writer(s)!!

the most eloquent ‘No’ i’ve ever heard in my life

Knights in shining armor is an example of PR propaganda.

From what I heard about the knights they were more like Tony Soprano and members of the mobsters than heroes

The knight's code turns out to be just like the pirate's code: "They're more like guidelines, actually..." 😂

Another fine upload! You guys always seem to find the most interesting tidbits. well done, bravo, good form, etc.!!

I wonder what the earliest fictional account of a knight rescuing a damsel in distress is.

@FlyingAxblade_D20

4 жыл бұрын

obviously Samson in the Bible, then St. George & the Dragon...oh before Samson wasn't there some gal that wanted to marry some Israelite and the Israelites convinced a whole city to get circumcized as men, then while in their pain, killed them all too? Lot saved his daughters, that worked out well. Isaac married his teen cousin when he was 40. Maybe Leah & Rachel? Oh, King David rescued a naked lady in a bath by murdering her husband. Solomon "rescued" 1,000's of ladies. NO doubt Jesus despised the Jews, the Old Testament is filled with whores and murderers.

@craydussy

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlyingAxblade_D20 😐

Didn’t Simon reference this video in an earlier video before it was released? I remember looking for it the other day.

@SimmaChode

4 жыл бұрын

Same here. I was confused when I noticed this was just uploaded.

@garyboyd9704

4 жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure he did

@TodayIFoundOut

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, just a publication order issue. :-) -Daven

@lordtywin4149

4 жыл бұрын

@@TodayIFoundOut ty Daven lol we with our Simon addiction notice these things 😂😂😂

@snorlax6691

4 жыл бұрын

Just more proof that Simon lives in a permanent state of temporal flux... how else could he record all of these videos? 😜

Just sent for two courses yesterday. I can't wait for them to arrive!

When I first found TIFO, I thought you were pretty casual, with your occasional giggles and questioning. And then Business Blaze.

In short, it was knights " liberating " young peasant females from their loving families for a hour or so. ( Most of that time would be the girl walking home if they got the chance ).

The castle from the title is like 15 mins away from me, lol

@scragglewaggle4109

4 жыл бұрын

Me too......no screw u it's not.

@techtastatischtoaster3988

4 жыл бұрын

@@scragglewaggle4109 well, it is. I am from Germany, Koblenz. Why don't you trust me. Why am I supposed to lie?

@scragglewaggle4109

4 жыл бұрын

@@techtastatischtoaster3988 jk! 😛 I believe u I am just jelly cause here in San Diego we have no castles with rich history.

@techtastatischtoaster3988

4 жыл бұрын

@@scragglewaggle4109 ok :)

Might want to check out the story of Judith of France and Baldwin of Flanders. She was the daughter of Charles the Bold and great granddaughter of Charles the Great. She was the widow of Æthelwulf of Wessex and later of his son Æthelbald (she married them both before the age of 15). After Æthelbald's death she had to return to her father who send her to a convent. There Baldwin (a knight and friend of her brother) 'saved' her and married her without her fathers consent. All indicates that she was a willing participant in this. They later travelled to Rome to get the blessing of the pope because her father had excommunicate them both.

From what I read the "Chvalric code" was based off of Chevalierie, the art of war from horseback. Had nothing to do with how to treat women. That was added later.

One of my Clan chieftains went to rescue a relative of his, who was the actual clan chief at the time. He was being held by those bastard Kerrs. Anyways, they had skirts (kilts) on, that's close right?

Did i spot castle Eltz in the background of the thumbnail? Its a beutiful area. If you ever visit the south west of germany take a day to go there. The Rhine is also nearby and the vineyards and surrounding hills are amazing for hiking.

@cristinitacorazon3377

4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see that.

I really liked this video. I love it when you tell stories like this that I wouldn't have otherwise ever heard about. Fascinating... and so cruel and bizarre are these medievals.

medieval fights breaking out over wives taken captive: "you keep her!" "no, *you* take her *back* !"

So in short, just as Fusion is always 30 years away, the age of Chivalry is always 3-400 years ago.

Obviously, Don Quijote did.

Certainly one of your better video’s! Kudos!

Thanks!! I've been waiting for this one! Thanks for delivering :)

1:15 reminds me of Trogdor, about to burninate the countryside.

@Hoover889

4 жыл бұрын

put a beefy arm on him for good measure

Whole lotta rapin' goin' on.

@ladosis5596

4 жыл бұрын

The more things change, the more they stay the same

By 5:30, I was literally giggling out loud. (The dog is worried about me, the cat has disappeared) I can't think of the character's name, but, the "old man" with his walking stick and amateur theatre make up is hysterically funny. Surely acting agencies should have been able to at least cast a grown up? I've read some of the comments before watching, and being forewarned have been able, so far, to view this ep as comic relief. After all, GK Chesterton's original character had an acute but kindly humour, so I'm trying to convince myself that ole GK would have found this apparently amateur, high school drama quite amusing. Regardless, I *do* appreciate the upload. It's lightened my day wonderfully

Yes, Edward III of England rescued his ally, the Countess of Atholl, Katherine Beaumont who was the widow of his ally, the late David of Strathbogie. Katherine was being besieged in the grim castle of Lochindorb north of Granton on Spey in the Highlands. The politics of Scotland were complex with Edward having many Scottish allies who had been on the losing side of the viscious civil war fought between King Robert I (Bruce) and the Comyn family and their allies. Following the death of Robert, 'the disinherited' Lords invaded Scotland with support from Edward III. The legend has it that Katherine was a very beautiful widow. Edward was wintering in 1336 in Perth. 100 miles south of Lochindorb across the Scottish highlands. On hearing of the siege, he boldly headed north in a lightening 'cheavaucher'. 300 armoured men on horseback, his household knights and Scottish allies set out carrying only what they could carry. 3 days of hard riding later they broke the siege and resuced Katherine. A great deal was made of this, Edward III set a lot on the idea of chivalry and it was, indeed, a chivalrous and extremely audacious exploit by the young king.

Man that was depressing. And about stories - are there really so many? Even the classic fairy tales are way more grim in their original version.

Okay, I did not expect to end up being absolutely furious after watching this.

Dudley Do-Right [of the Mounties] to the rescue- Snidely Whiplash… Hisss, Boo and all the while excitingly watching my Saturday Afternoon chapter of Pearl White’s “Perils of Pauline”. Kudos to Rocky and Bullwinkle !

You're telling me fairy tales aren't real ?!

@piercedsiren

4 жыл бұрын

@@samarnadra there are knights in my fairy tales, and they don't steal the princess

@mugwump7049

4 жыл бұрын

@@piercedsiren Modern versions of the fairy tales often are heavily edulcorated compared to the grim originals. Especially if your frame of reference is Disney.

@PiotrDzialak

4 жыл бұрын

Remember that in the original story, the wolf raped the Red Ridding Hood.

@rickc2102

4 жыл бұрын

@@mugwump7049 edulcorated, nice word, bro!

Did you look outside of England??

*Me clicking on video:* _"ooohh a real story of a knight saving someone!?!_ *several minutes into the video:* _"WTF THIS IS ACTUALLY SAD AND SCARY-"_

Another good job Simon.

Beginning of video: Oooh fun knights rescuing people.... End of video: .... Well that was depressing. I'm glad I'm living in the 21st century.

Gwaine: she's a damsel in distress this is what I signed up for

Peasant ladies in raid: Thank god thy arrived sire, please help us get to safety... Knight: XD...

Hahaha! Having to rescue the lady FROM the knight. I love it. Hysterical.

It's just like what happens today, sensationalizing everything as heck

@Riwillion

4 жыл бұрын

True for sure, no one cares about the boring mundane stuff. But then again, any knights coming to the rescue of damsels in distress would be quite the sensation as well I think? They did make up a shitton of stories about it after all, surely they would record ACTUAL cases of such then?

@danw6877

4 жыл бұрын

@@Riwillion Unless it was commonplace and thus became considered mundane and considering all the folk tales I would say this is likely to be the case.

Makes me think of something like the tale Fiona tells shrek "what the other knights did" when they meet

Thank you for this really cool video. I’m off to research some of these women. :)

putting a whole new light to the term "he stole my girl"

i believe the rule of law has, and always will be "Might makes right" might now days is just money.

"Medieval Woman abducted, married against her will. Woman most effected, for real this time!"

I just got History’s Greatest Military Blunders on Audible, and gifted it to my boyfriend! We spent like an hour going over just ten or so titles, debating their merits. I’m a would be history professor and he’s going to be a French teacher, so the lifelong learning thing is right up our alley! 😅

This is very relevant to me right now, considering I began reading Don Quixote about a week ago.