I get the sense that the boyfriend is struggling with some inner homophobia and doesn't fully respect his boyfriend because he's feminine. I also get the sense that he envies his boyfriends confidence and self love which I think he lacks for himself! Sometimes the people you sleep with can be your worst enemy and lowkey hate you because they want what you have and in this case its full acceptance of self.

@crazymusicgrlcheesecake

Жыл бұрын

good catch

@coreyanderson5563

Жыл бұрын

All these single blak women out here n n2ggaz would rather play in each other's peanutbutter.. damn shame

@JessRare

8 ай бұрын

I agree…I think when it comes to the social media and projects the boyfriend was the main one with the the eyes on him and like you said jealousy plays a big part. That’s why he had an issue with the whole SM thing and would try to shake him in front of others to make himself feel better.

@ahzar4384

7 ай бұрын

Very wisely put!

@spiritualhem_

5 ай бұрын

Agreed 👏

"just because someone's expressed their insecurity doesn't give you the right to build on that insecurity..." wish my mom knew this

@imhereforitall9218

Жыл бұрын

I am a gay black male and I was in an abusive relationship before and knew it and just would not cut it off. Even after he put hands on me in front of his 5th baby mother and made me and her service him orally at the same time. I just would not leave. He was such a charmer and an Alpha male and you did not say no to him if you knew what was good for you. You had to have his food fixed just right. Iron his underwear and tee shirts. Just be there for him. When he went back to prison that is when I made my move and and literally moved to another state and changed all my social media and telephone number.

@nggapraying4392

Жыл бұрын

@@imhereforitall9218 I'm glad you got free from that cause wth.

@neisci

Жыл бұрын

​@@imhereforitall9218 have sought professional help for it? Sometimes we get out situations but those situations stay with us. It's also important to address with a Profesional what was behind the reason for you to stay in such detrimental condition.

@lejuandean2570

6 ай бұрын

I wish my mom knew and practiced it too.. maybe we would be speaking and healed right today as mother and daughter but it wasn’t given to her therefore she victimized me too. Sad!

@aries4901

4 ай бұрын

Narcissist build on insecurities

Once something turns physical I think the best thing to do is end the relationship.

@bohlalenchabeleng1370

Жыл бұрын

Period!

@sheilae.9670

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Abuse is never ok

@ahzar4384

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. I've been down that road before, and NEVER EVER will I allow someone to treat me like that again. And I'm a grown man.

@cardomuldrow09

5 ай бұрын

That’s what men do. Men fight each other

@zanthus7

4 ай бұрын

Nah, the verbal comes before the physical. Verbal abuse can be just as bad as physical. The difference is physical abuse most of the time leave short term scars that will heal where verbal abuse can stay with you for years. So when your partner starts putting you down, disrespecting you, this has a strong potential to lead to physical abuse. Get out before that happens. The first disrespect could be a slip of the tongue and if they apologize, forgive. If it happens again, then you know the first slip of the tongue was a test to see what they could get away with. When it happens the second time, end the relationship for good because that person is trying to take you down a road you don't ever want to go. Shut the relationship down hard and fast. No one deserves to be disrespected by their lover, ever. If your lover is doing that, they do not love you so end that relationship. This is a time where you use your head only and not your heart.

Verbal abuse is just as worse as physical abuse

@dallasfarms1907

4 ай бұрын

😢

Two things stood out to me this episode: 1) Jorel represents how common it is in the LGBTQIA+ community to "bottom-shame" or be openly misogynistic. It's this toxic ass mindset that "it's okay to be qay....as long as you're not too femme". 2) This guy admitted to chasing Nolan for 12 years.... only to turn around and be abusive. So the lesson is just bc someone is persistent about dating you does not mean they have any intention to treat you w/ love and respect. You are prize as long as you remain unattainable to a toxic person.

@TeeCup22

6 ай бұрын

Loving the idea*** of him, but not loving HIM. Loved what he presented, but got to know him & wanted to change him. Smh. It’s sad! They did right separating.

@DatNigga-hr5oc

6 ай бұрын

You just spoke a word into my life. Thank you Ms. Lady

@MarciaSantos-ox1fk

4 ай бұрын

Facts.

Once it turned physically violent it was a wrap. Nolan knew that so he moved on. There are some of us who know when to walk away.

@catherinegilbert7057

Жыл бұрын

yes and he got his licks in before he left it was epic

@allgasnobrakes123

Жыл бұрын

You must not know many Black gay couples 🤷🏽‍♂️

@jasonfallel8829

Жыл бұрын

how woud someone like you know . Im disgusted

@Britteverafter64

Жыл бұрын

@@allgasnobrakes123 My cousin and his ex fought many times.I told my other male cousins and they were g2 give deal with my cousins then bf. My gay male cousin protected him; as if it was no big deal( but he had been crying, he was trying to hide his face). When I went to pick them both up; his ex did not come outside. I was were is Nate, why u crying and did not want to tell me( that was the 1st I realized). And stayed together after each fight.

@bohlalenchabeleng1370

Жыл бұрын

Period!

the woman in the crowd yelling “ i knew it! “😂

@ud558

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@aglightskin

4 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@hopefullyjhs

3 ай бұрын

whenn

@virgosrus5733

2 ай бұрын

When lmaooo

@skypie5374

14 күн бұрын

Yes mam 😂

I see how social media affected the relationship but it ultimately wasn’t the cause for their issues. It looks like There’s an underlying pattern of abuse between them.

He doesn’t want him but doesn’t want anyone else to have him. Don’t get back with him.

Jorel gives narcissist.😷 I had the exact same situation, Nolan talking about how Jorel called him weak because he asked for him to respect his feelings, with my ex. Ew!

@DJ-zd3gj

Жыл бұрын

YUP!!!! The exact type of person to avoid at all costs!

@carolharris5455

4 ай бұрын

Oh my goodness yes!!!!! I don’t think he knows how to fully love and I think he wants to attach his self back to Nolan for clout reasons. The verbal abuse would get worse along with mental abuse until he wouldn’t even be able to leave

Its been very interesting seeing Karamo's evolution. I remember him from The Real World. Glad he is so comfortable/secure with his sexuality.

@KKA868

Жыл бұрын

ikr

@DDominoGeronimo

Жыл бұрын

🥰

@aquarianangel8846

Жыл бұрын

Wait... is karamo gay?

@creamfiend84

Жыл бұрын

3:43

@wavveytae4181

Жыл бұрын

@@aquarianangel8846yeah girl where u been . He got a whole hubby

Nolan did the right thing. Jarrell started being disrespectful . Once a person verbally abuse you the next step is physical abuse. I don't see how Nolan can talk about Jarrell feminine energy when he has on a face full of makeup....

The body language between the two spoke volumes. One was open to reconnecting with the out stretched arm and the other guy was leaning away as far on the other side he could get.

@aqueen4life40

Жыл бұрын

Nolan is definitely not interested in a rekindle ❤ and this interview shows exactly why “ not coming home and have to battle you to “ Jorel is apparently verbally ,emotionally and mentally abusive

@DJ-zd3gj

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t you lean away if someone kept tearing you down?

@opulence_prime

Жыл бұрын

I hear you but did you see how he hugged Karamo? He’s just open like that.

I'm proud of Nolan for moving on.

Omg Nolan seems so chill and mellow i can’t see him trippin 😂😂😂

@devion7709

Жыл бұрын

Wait nvm then b the ones 💀💀

@chaneldoll3481

Жыл бұрын

@@devion7709 😂😂😂😂

@YourFavMemory

6 ай бұрын

​@@devion7709I was bout to say don't be deceived by types like dat 😂😂

@nicoleraheem1195

3 ай бұрын

Many people are chill until they are provoked

Karamo just took an ugly side narcissism, laid it out like a soft warm quilt, and gently picked the thread along the middle so that one may become two, w/o spitefulness, w/o causing more tears to the fabric. Thank you Karamo!

@sierrajs_

Жыл бұрын

this is a beautiful analogy

@georgia1191

Жыл бұрын

Beautifully written and constructed

@teehee83

Жыл бұрын

When does your book come out? Send me a link ❤

It wasn't social media that broke them up. It just put a glaring spotlight on what the real problem was. Abuse.

Karamo summed it up perfectly at the end, he needs to take time to himself and decide what he wants, we often make people fit and change who we are just to be or say we are in a relationship.

But Nolan is mad thinner than Jorel....tf?!

@letME1seeIT2

Ай бұрын

Exactly what i'm screaming right here and now

He’s toxic and yet he wants to get back with dude and abuse him more ? He doesn’t seem to have evolved or matured

Before Nolan came to the couch, I could tell Jorel was the problem. And then when Nolan came on, it confirmed that Jorel was always the problem.

Sometimes we force ourselves to stay in relations because we don´t want to fail, because is easy, because we get use to it... But sometimes changes are also good, at the end love is when you find the right person, the right moment, the right energy. So, if something doesn´t work, staying just because in the paper work, is not a good idea. Good Advice Karamo!!!

Being able to accept someone isn't for you is tough. But Karamo gave good advice

my favorite youtuber. always staying out of drama. always caring for their fans. always keeping it real with their fans. giving back to their fans. thank you.

@childofgod3135

Жыл бұрын

♥️

@nononsense7615

4 ай бұрын

Who is the "youtuber"?

I SWEAR the gays are lowkey schooling women on how to handle a man from the chase, to not giving in easily, making them work for your love, etc. Nolan needs to start a 101☕️

@truthtorpedo4068

Жыл бұрын

They really aren't teaching anyone, ANYTHING! Promiscuity, yes. Predatory behaviour, yes.

@mamemb6258

5 ай бұрын

It's gross that you're generalizing women. Next time say some women and some gays. Not everyone is the same.

“Charming” and knows how to sell a narrative! My exact thoughts!! I know I’m not the only one side-eyeing Mr. Love him Kiss him Miss him in the beginning of this?👀👀👀

I can’t take him seriously talking about he has feminine energy when he sitting there with a full face of makeup on🥴

@raajaahrajalterego2607

Жыл бұрын

Right

@AnthonyJones-pc4dd

Жыл бұрын

Right😂

@fabteengh4615

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Jorel is a classic narcissist - run far, fast, and free of him, Nolan.

Your show gives me the old school, Sally Jessie/Rolanda vibes; where there seemed to be an intentionality to really help people. Way to go my Rattler Bro! Keep it up!

@mine332way069

Жыл бұрын

Yeeess Sally Jesse 👓lol that was my show

Them ones that chase you for a while be no good 😂😂😂

So far I love Karamo he gets to the deeper issues he keeping it real

I appreciate the transparency from the BOTH of them. I hope they both find peace wherever that may be for the both of them. I would’ve never thought they would’ve gon through these kinds of things just looking at Instagram, but I guess that goes to show once again that everything that glitters ain’t gold. And you REALLY never know what’s going on in people’s relationships

Nolan…. MOVE ON HONEY. That dude eyes said it all he’s not right and he’s not going to change

I hope Karamo gets enough subscribers a praise for his show

He won't change ,my I forgave my ex and he did the exact thing again and immediately I called it out,he got defensive and so I went all in and broke up with him there and then for good!

Being critical of his weight will not cause him to diet. Nolan is thinner than you are, young and very handsome. You are not good for Nolan, you have to learn how to stop being abusive, before someone gets hurt or killed. Accidents happen out of anger sometimes. God bless🙏🏽.

I don't think this was a story of obsession, per se. Yes, Social Media played a part, but I believe the abuse would have taken place regardless. I am glad that Nolan is in a situation where he recognizes that the other guy wasn't treating him well. I do hope that the other guy does the work on himself to catch and change his behaviors so that he will be the ideal companion for the next person. He and Nolan may have been physically compatible and easy on the eyes, but were disconnected in the other areas that mattered.

It's great he moved on, the verbal abuse from the very person you expect support from, cuts deep.

Kudos Nolan. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Move around baby! Move around! 🙌🏽😘

KARAMO you are changing TV history!! We’re behind you🎉

So you chased him down for years to hurt him 🥴 #makeitmakesense

@kvnghaitian

Жыл бұрын

Basically

@AnthonyJones-pc4dd

Жыл бұрын

Right. Tf

@truthtorpedo4068

Жыл бұрын

Typical BM

This is a great show. Just became aware of this show. The host is knowledgeable about the issues being presented. His demeanor is well recieve by his guest. I will continue to watch......

Once somebody blows up on social media, even if they are couple, it won't be long before that relationship ends up on the coals. Keep your relationships off of social media!!!!

Jarrell needs to work on the things Karamo mentioned . So that his next relationship can be better. They are very attractive , I wish them all the BEST 😊

I’m so glad this was posted! I missed this episode today!

Social media had destroyed a lot of relationships and friendships. I want to have a private relationship some people don't like to see others happy. And silence is golden lol

That was really good and eye opening for any relationship straight or gay!!!!

shaped like a whale is NOT tough love, LOVE.

@Karma_return777

Жыл бұрын

That’s emotional/verbal abuse lowkey. Love and abuse cannot coexist. I can understand how it got to a physical point

He says his "feminine energy is through the roof" but I don't see that at all.

Lololol! Jorel's eye roll at @13:34 did it for me. He wants that man back!

How is he fat ?!!

@ladylady8745

Жыл бұрын

He was jealous of him and that is why he called his bf fat.

@kvnghaitian

Жыл бұрын

He’s not at all

@Toriab

4 ай бұрын

That definitely wouldn’t have made me mad especially if I was skinny 😂 so I didn’t get that. Because he’s no where near fat

I’m obsessed with you show.. well done ❤❤❤

They are sooooo cute but I believe it’s for the best. Until Jorel works on himself, they won’t work. I hope Jorel seriously work on himself because I don’t want him meeting someone like him and then end up being in a very toxic relationship. I wish both of them good luck.

@Vdub481

Жыл бұрын

Nolan is bomb I can tell he. Has a set goal n that he is determined to live a lifestyle he enjoys n loves some people who are in relationships like this can’t handle something new or different J in the other hand idk 😅he doesn’t give for me

Good advice K. I feel they may both have issues but if someone is pushing your buttons & being ok with it run.

The first mistake was putting your relationship on social media.

As someone who’s been in a queer abusive relationship I am so glad Karamo is spreading awareness of this!! It’s more common than you think! And divorce rates for queer couples are just as high as heterosexual couples.

Bless your heart Karamo!!! 🖤🖤🖤

AWESOME episode!

I feel like they weren't fair to Jorel. He's lowkey and gets drained by Nolan's social media & diva antics, but they just skipped past his needs even after Nolan admitted to being violent too him. I feel like if Karamo can tell Jorel not to be harsh, he can also tell Nolan that there's more to life than media.

@kevinharris3993

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Nolan is a violent person. I think Nolan just couldn't take anymore of the verbal abuse and just snapped. I am not condoning the violent act. Jorel has an abusive and controlling personality filled with many flawed characteristics. I think both need to work on themselves but not together.

@Sloppyjoey1

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinharris3993 "I don't think Nolan was a violent person"?? He was violent, therefor he literally was a violent person. My issue isn't them both being wrong, it's that they both weren't held to the same standard.. everyone seems to be brushing pass the VIOLENCE and him admitting he's a social media attention diva.. and jump to how mean Jorel is lol.

Nolan Run! He’s better off without that evil man. ❤❤❤❤❤❤

@larasky1198

Жыл бұрын

When Nolan's ex finds the manly guy he's looking for, the roles will switch and he will become the Nolan.

Nolan is not THAT feminine, he’s actually the better choice. The other guy will never be in a successful relationship bcus he’s a complete narcissist

@Imetwurld_

4 ай бұрын

Honestly I was thinking the same too .he ain't very feminine 😂. I don't think his partner has feminine gay friends because they are ones who act hyper or just love seeking for attention .Nolan feminity is sexy.

Finally another video👏👏👏

Another awesome episode👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🫶🏾

Who else is having a Karamo binge while cooking thanksgiving feast 2023❤❤❤

I’m a Domestic Violence Survivor, Overcomer, Advocate, Author. And Speaker and one of the hardest things to get people that’s being abused that DV is more than physical but so many feel as though since they not being it it’s not Abuse.

@clarapeters6583

Жыл бұрын

*to get people to understand…

This is a toxic relationship. Maybe they could be friends but this relationship is done. The young man needs to learn to have a relationship with himself and the cause of his demeaning personality. He is a very attractive man outwardly but inwardly, it is dark and toxic.

I loooooooove the GAYS! You can’t even be mad at this lol! At first I was thinking, they just being petty. A lil couple’s therapy for Communication, and they’ll be fine….. but honestly pause. Jorell is giving NARC 100%. A CHARMER to the public but a monster behind close doors. Nolan, remain free, surround yourself with love and be happy!

Great episode. I was most impressed by Karamo. Great job guys.

Karamo keep up the good work

Jorel and Karamo have chemistry

@kevinharris3993

Жыл бұрын

The chemistry is that Karamo has been where Nolan is

There’s some good comments under this video , this is a great video .

yea physically fighting your partner is crazy..same gender or not...

WOW my boyfriend is high maintenance and he's not on social media. I could only imagine 2 drama queens. They are prefect for TV not a real serious relationship.. They seem not mature enough for a relationship.. Once the respect is gone everything is gone.. I'm not surprised he has moved on.

Great dialogue!

They are on the Karamo show to EXPAND their social media audience. That’s the REAL reason they are here.

@raajaahrajalterego2607

Жыл бұрын

Right

@jaypaidincash

Жыл бұрын

BINGO. They are both in on it.

@truthtorpedo4068

Жыл бұрын

That part!

@YourFavMemory

6 ай бұрын

Hmmm this needs a pin 📌📍

Jorel doesn't respect the Fabulous Nolan. Nolan got something good going for Himself with that social media business don't let Jorel ruin it for You Nolan. You dream Big and make it happen!

angry people always want company 😒 why tho 😒

Congrats Karamo

They need to gooooooooooooooooooo their separate ways. Oil & water don't mix....Jorel is the PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, Karamo always hit the nail dead on the head!!!!!

I love that this conversation is happening openly with black gay men. So much to talk about here. Much to learn. Karamo is killin it❣️

Once you try to come for me or compete with me in a relationship 9/10 I'm ready for it to be over. I'm just one of those ppl who dont do that I dnt joke or make fun of my partners or compete so if you do that to me and I have not displayed this behavior I'm going to check out on you

Nolan is so handsome & seems really sweet. I hope he’s happy!🥰

I ❤ Karamo!

Chile…I’m obsessed 😍. I have for the educated black gay Maury. I mean that with love! You go Karamo! 🎉

@truthtorpedo4068

Жыл бұрын

Oh my...

They are very gorgeous couple

I almost cried when I saw this and one of them had found someone else to be in a relationship with. They make the cutest couple ........

Social media can be a bad influence for young couples like them two. But sometimes it's best to keep some things personal, because it can cause trouble for anyone. Them two are nice together

@iamjesse9398

4 ай бұрын

did you even watch the episode?

Yes Karamo!

He has not self control because his EGO is on the markee on his head. He is inconsiderate snd lacks compassion. Leave him now if he cannot change himsrlf.

I agree you gotta support not call him a whale say he's weak etc

Karamo sounds like he done had a couple drinks in the back🫣

This is an interesting show... What channel station this show comes on?

Nolan seems so toxic.

So they came on to promote their social media....got it

I'd love more show hay come with like update on the couples hes had on. Maybe its just me i get invested bto quickly in the stories

I’ve never seen these ppl on social media until now. I will never understand why ppl take social media so seriously.

The way wuna di just met somebody easily, e dey like say man go transfer come that America

Guys r cute n hope they stayed friends

Hopefully they find their partners man! Good luck to them both! 👍🏽🥀

If anything I hope that they can continue their friendship. Maybe not be in a total relationship but a friendship is what is really important before relationship anyway. ‼️