Love how the sorc design philosophy is a glass cannon, but they forgot about the cannon.

@overpowerrd

6 күн бұрын

This is the perfect summation of sorc.

@DARKCOP2011

6 күн бұрын

A glass glass

@middlelightly

6 күн бұрын

currently they are glass nerf gun

Devs: We want to move away from generic unique items that are BiS for all builds. Also Devs: *add multiple generic unique items that are BiS for all builds*

@d4mephisto

6 күн бұрын

0 brain cells devs obviously

Why am I not surprised that any item and skill for the sorc is undertuned.... Thanks for all the hard work you put into testing and analysing. Truly appreciated!

Logic barb good = buff barb barb bad = buff barb sorc good = nerf sorc + buff barb sorc bad = nerf sorc + buff barb

@ValinLenoir

6 күн бұрын

New Barb Temper incoming: All skills cleave for 2500% damage.

@jackelol3587

6 күн бұрын

New sorc temper: nearby barbs do 2000% ​extra dmg @@ValinLenoir

Sorc.. disappointing? You don't say!

They should change the Unique to a Focus instead of a Staff. Would give sorc an additionnal Offensive Aspect Slot at least

@Sknerus89

6 күн бұрын

with how poor it is and the fact that sorc doesnt have unique focus, it would make perfect sense. Staves in general, especially (altho it doesnt matter tbh) with implicit change to dmg over time, are just not worth your time.

@ValinLenoir

6 күн бұрын

Sorcs could use a Staff, 1H, and Sorce slot. Druids and Necro could use it too, to be closer to matching the weapon slots of Rogue and Barb. I'd love a 3rd enchantment slot on Sorc as well, just for more potential build variety.

once again....Sorc bad, barb good. what a suprise.

@overpowerrd

6 күн бұрын

i just want expac to drop... lets all agree to boycott season 5. but then again, we all going to be playing new class.. RIP sorc until season 7.

@DARKCOP2011

6 күн бұрын

@@overpowerrd Boycot a season for devs to learn a lesson its something only smart people will do, so see you and everyone else on s5 !!!!

Shouldn’t a sorc have some sort of arcane or actual magic powers traditionally associated with being a sorc?

@kevinsims5791

6 күн бұрын

Arcane and magic powers like that only came about in diablo 3 with the wizard and that is not a traditional diablo sorc. Sorcerer in d1 and d2 were both elemental. Sorcerer here is in the traditional side. Maybe in future expansions we could get a wizard or arcane version like in d3.

I kind of wish they would change the item but keep the idea to a certain degree. Instead of a staff, change it to a Source, maybe the new Triumverant. And instead of it being attached to a core skill, just make it work so that when you cast either Firebolt, Spark or Frost Bolt, you also cast the other two. Just becomes a triple basic attack thing. Doesn't even have to boost the damage; you get that from the synergies with other items, like that new sword.

@ValinLenoir

6 күн бұрын

That's too good of an idea for the D4 devs to consider adding. They would rather nerf Sorc again and buff Barbs more.

@LemonRush7777

6 күн бұрын

An actually good idea.

It's refreshing going back to D3 and every class has items you're excited to see drop and when you equip them, boom you instantly feel the effect of gasp, doing way more damage and being able to jump up several levels. It's like they're too afraid of D3s damage inflation but ONLY for specific classes...

@chouGnoul

6 күн бұрын

[wand of woh falling on the floor] 🧡💥

@animalchin5082

6 күн бұрын

It took em years to get gear right in d3 too though. I just wish Blizzard would put more effort into this content and testing it. Much of their seasonal/service game content like WoW SoD or D4 has been half-baked and buggy lately.

@z0ttel89

6 күн бұрын

D3 itemization is terrible, stop pretending that it isn't.

They really have to do something with Sorc you shouldn’t need a unique in every slot to somewhat function

Cannot wait for the rework of this brand new item 😂

Give. Sorcs. 2. Focus. Slots. Extra. Ofc more things need to be done but that at least.

Yes, stagger needs a design overhaul. Its not even part of the equation when the boss lives for over 2 minutes, up to 10 minutes and above.

Thank you for making a video bringing up the issues for sorc. I hope the changes that ultimately go in reflect the community feedback. Here is hoping for the best.

Honestly it's always been obvious for a while that they kinda don't really know how to properly handle sorc. I mean in the first few seasons the design philosophy for sorc seemed to be Newton's third law, where most legendary aspects and uniques somehow need to have a buff AND a curse.

Did you also try the Druid staff?

Did anyone test whether the staff allows basic attack aspects to work? I saw might worked. Critically, does hectic work? Does it count as two casts, so every 10 casts we can get 4 seconds off CDs?

I really hope they get on top of unique items next. Loot 2.0 was a major step forward, but they seem so afraid to actually make useful uniques. I can't believe it's not possible to make items that do different things and make builds change in interesting ways, without rendering all other items useless. If they wanted to, they could just make a debuff for every extra unique you add, so you're still forced to use legendaries, in case the uniques are too strong.

Ofcourse it’s bad, it’s made for sorc

They need to stop giving sorcs unique 2h weapons only reason they work with barb and rogues is the extra weapon slots lol

@sodapopinksi667

6 күн бұрын

Now that you mention it. If sorc had an extra slot just for a focus to circle around them, then they would probably be able to keep up with the other classes.

@AnatoleVGC

6 күн бұрын

Yep. Same with druid. And we dont even have unique focus

@StillWeRide

6 күн бұрын

10000% give druid and sorc a belt slot already

I haven't even watched the video yet but I'm just going to assume that the people who design this game once again have forgotten to take into account that you can't temper extra projectile procs on a unique

It needs a complete redesign to cast 2 other core skills of different elements whenever you cast a core skill.

As others are saying, it's not surpricing that the Sorc unique is bad and undertuned. It's the same story with the whole class. Blizzard seemingly doesn't have anyone who plays Sorc or at least anyone who understands what makes the class work. The nerf to Teleport and removing CDR from off-hands were a clear sign of this. Just wait and see as a knee-jerk reaction they will just do number changes to Sorc skills without adressing the real problems which are Paragon, Enhancements and end passives. Also the teleport nerf just makes the class more clunky.

its a future barb item , it will work perfect for that class - additional basic skill will trigger 5 different multipliers + gushing wounds allowing barb to release a toxic fart one shooting sorc's 2 screens away. Blizz's balance and logic.

Do we know if the basic skills from the staff lucky hit? Perhaps with the high attack speed (especially if the staff core AS stat is in cap 2) and considering the high baseline basic attack lucky hit, the staff is about proccing lots of lucky hits? A frost core skill, blue rose lucky hit build? A greater fireball, frost bolt enchant, firebolt build with blue rose? A lot of copium here… a lot… the staff needs a buff.

@teapea8184

6 күн бұрын

If they want basic build to use a 2h, it better be faster than 1h weapons. Almost every basic attack build revolves around Hectic or now with the new lucky hit legendary.

Sorc is a glass watergun. The uniques are complete garbo.

Looks like the only thing of worth for this item would be the transmog upon salvaging, if it has one.

@fadingdimension

6 күн бұрын

Too bad staves are generally worse than wand+focus. On top of the fact that the implicit on staves is changing to + damage over time, so maybe some fire dot build could use a staff? I really wish we could just use any weapon appearance regardless of equipped item type.

Season 40 the sorc will be good dont worry guys

Uniques NEED to not be staves the sorc NEEDS more aspects to work.

I tested this staff night 1 of the PTR, and man it's terrible. Ignoring that any unique staff will need to be WAY better than anything we can temper now, after the S4 additions, the staff itself doesn't trigger from all Core skills. Any Core skill that is also a DoT will NOT trigger this staff (I reported it as a possible bug, but maybe this is Blizz's intentions, who knows?). I was trying to maybe synergize it with the new Fire Bolt split power, and Firewall/Incinerate, and it just doesn't trigger the staff. It's a very disappointing item all around, and that coupled with the CL pants also not being great, is making me a very sad Sorc main. The class needs so much work.

Does Paingorgers really only replicate the first hit? I have the impression that (since mid season patch?) it replicates all attacks within the 3s uptime of the mark 🤔

GIve us back the third enchantment slot.

because those idiots killed all synergies. for example if the spark would be handled as a "cast" you could pair it with unstable current or something like that

The Basilisk: hold my beer

Wen a freacking unique xbow or a special ubber for rogues

They honestly need to cut the stagger resistance that bosses get after staggering them 3x

@overpowerrd

6 күн бұрын

Yep, the stagger mechanic is totally not part of the equation when the boss lives for several minutes maybe even up to 10 minutes) past the last stagger.

Why is sorcerer dmg still locked behind vulnerable and cc layering... fix that and they might be functional

@teapea8184

6 күн бұрын

Sorc can do perma vulnerable now, so it's not a problem. Also CC reliancy is diminished a lot. It's now mostly down the good builds scaling from density and then the boss is just unkillable at the end cause you do lackluster ST damage.

Sorc lead needs to go...we have suffered too long

At least the model for this item looks cool. It's effect is abysmal though.

why would you play Frost Bolt directly, when Frozen Orb would give 2x Frost Bolts + FO + 30% attack speed??

@kevinsims5791

6 күн бұрын

With this item the frost bolts shoot diagonally. Your core projectile skill and the basic attacks will shoot in a cone with the core skill in the middle so your basic attack bullets will more than likely miss unless you are point blank range. So you are missing an extra legendary aspect multiplier since the basic attacks with this staff miss the target. You will get that back if you dont use the staff. Using a wand and focus plus a random 10% attack speed affix is the same attack speed as this staff and its for all skills instead of just core. You can also temper an extra basic attack projectile for double damage or double crowd control effects without this staff. Frostbolts explode on frozen targets so they are like mini frozen orbs amyways.

@ryan_gaming_hub

6 күн бұрын

But why would you play a scuffed version😅? Not to mention it's worse than whatever garbage sorcs have ATM ​@@kevinsims5791

@ValinLenoir

6 күн бұрын

@@kevinsims5791 Yea, I really wish the staff at least fired them parallel, and not in a split diagonal. Everything about this staff infuriates me at this point.

@kevinsims5791

6 күн бұрын

@@ValinLenoir having them homing would be the best

So now we can have a health and resource bar above the player's head !!!!

Looks like they tried to do something like the Runemaster from Last Epoch, but didnt quite get it right.

remove damage from legendary effects.

Teleport nerfed, focus nerfed, flame shield nerfed, ice armor nerfed, Debilitatin Roar nerfed, Shadowblight nerfed, Victimize nerfed, etc Meanwhile, Barb holding one button to auto-attack with Bash or WW... Yeah, this game is perfectly (un)balanced. They will nerf everything to the ground outside the Gushing Wounds. And Barb will get a 50% Polearms buff, longer bleed, Shard of Verathiel, and Perma Berserking Aspect. LMAO. Step 1: Druid, Necro, and Sorc should be able to wear 2H + 2x1H like Rogue to get two more Aspects, two more Gems, two more offensive stats, and four more Tempers.

I can't wait to not play this season.

I swear. Blizzard will never ever in a million years be able to balance this game in regards to adding new content as long as they have god damned multipliers for everything. There is no system to it and the calculations are bugged, poorly thought through and just in general, wild. How on earth are they going to make something balanced when even a [x]500% multiplier is not enough to create an out of control build(Looking at incinerate tripple beam). Like how is quintupling your damage still bad? Well ill fakken tell ya, its because of all the other multipliers sorc doesnt have compared to say barb. They have no double dipping to multiply their multipliers. Its just a mess honestly. They need to hire some mathmaticans to create proper damage calcuation formulas for them. Programmers are good at math, but not good enough to create something that is balanced from the getgo and have a strategy for how its going to work in the future with new addtions etc. OR They need to get rid of all multipliers on sources that have differen magnitudes between classes. Weapons are one of them, having multipliers on weapons is clearly never going to create a game where Barbarians, who can have upto 4x the amount of stats from weapons than other classes, aren't the best scaling class. They need to remove all kinds of weapon aspect multipliers, tempers, crit damage, vuln damage. All of that shit from weapons. Or they need to make it so that the stats/aspects only apply from the weapon being used. Not all of them at once. E.g if you cast HotA you only benefit from stats and aspects from your 2h blunt weapon. Its just so sad watching them trying to create fun new uniques and aspects only for them to go completly untouched because its hot garbage compared to other bugged ass shit or abilities that have a bunch of multipliers you can jam onto them.

i don't even want this staff to be good. it's not fun!

odd that you didn't show the affixes of the item on question during the video🤔

Sorc designer really needs to do some soul searching.

sorc is in a really bad state...so sad

Sorc. In general is a disappointment. Playing rogue and sorc is a huge difference in damage

Paingorger is a useless item. Most of the multipliers dont work on the damage it splits. For example you hit for 2M, paingorger does 200K

Odd numbered seasons are made by non-gamer devs 😢

this damage is pretty sad

TL,DR: There are no devs play the game with sorc, hence sorc is all hot garbage

Buff barb and Roque

devs dont have a clue how to add something in the game…

Buff Sorc

"Extremely disappointing" is the motto of this game.

No offense but why is he trying to do a basica attack build with this? Thats not what its for. Its literally just to make ur core skills have supplementary damage. Just casting basic attacks does nothing with this wep. Try casting frost orb etc instead like its intended.

@c-tothefourth4879

6 күн бұрын

Nope

@Spartax333

5 күн бұрын

mate... he's casting charged bolts as his manual casts which through the staff casts the frost bolt. The item is intended to be used in a build that has the free basic attack procs be the primary damage dealer otherwise why does it scale the damage of the basic attack generated by it and not the core skill that you have to manually cast to proc the weapon effect? The only other world that makes any sense whatsoever is to be used in a lucky hit fishing build which also just doesn't make sense because it's a staff and will have much lower attack speed than a mh/oh setup would be able to produce (which also comes with 2 free legendary aspects so presumably rapid + some other scaler).

nobody asked for this item. nobody will use this item. nobody wants this item. so why does it even exist. bad devs.

I completely stop playing diablo4 on ptr it's not playable

Always sorc sux, even with uniques

I thought sorcs could only use daggers?

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dead on arrival… designed by ppl that don’t play the game

@seancraig8711

6 күн бұрын

It genuinely feels like most of the ubiques they release are never actually even tested

Whole game is a disappointment. SMH