DI vs Short Stroke Gas Piston - Thermal Analysis

In this video we use a thermal camera to discuss and observe the differences between direct impingement and short-stroke gas piston systems in two different rifles, the AR10 (Brownells' BRN10) and the FN SCAR17.
Special thanks to:
Matt Landfair of Primary & Secondary, LLC.:
/ @primaryandsecondary
J.W. Ramp for his filming and assistance:
www.jwramp.com/
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  • @ducktapepilot
    @ducktapepilot4 жыл бұрын

    Roadrunner makes an appearance above Karls right shoulder @ 1:18 (edit - corrected spelling on Karls name)

  • @danielkaczynski9702

    @danielkaczynski9702

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wile E. Coyote cannot be far behind.

  • @rf9078

    @rf9078

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's Carl with a K

  • @recceshoe6911

    @recceshoe6911

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice catch. Might be a Quayle though.

  • @thomasfrank280

    @thomasfrank280

    4 жыл бұрын

    Beep! beep!

  • @lycossurfer8851

    @lycossurfer8851

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@danielkaczynski9702 actually he'd be waaaay behind. Road Runner got Carl as a bodyguard

  • @straggler64
    @straggler644 жыл бұрын

    Something I find really interesting and engaging about Karl’s delivery is his pace. Some presenters are really rushed and high energy, some are really sloooooow and laid back. Karl has the speed of the rush, but in a really consistent tone that gets the viewer all the way through the material at a good pace without feeling rushed, dragged out, or kurt. It’s a very unique style on youtube and I find it fits very well to the content.

  • @sharpiesfishandphantoms

    @sharpiesfishandphantoms

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, regardless of subject matter certain presentation styles work better than others, personally i find the high energy rapid cut style to be annoying and sometimes hard to follow (a bit like a Michael Bey movie lol), i also enjoy it when the creators personality comes through and you can tell when someone is faking things. Big thumbs up to Karl for style, professionalism and personality.

  • @n0tthemessiah

    @n0tthemessiah

    4 жыл бұрын

    He doesn't pause, fill space with "uh"s or "uhm"s; he's clear, concise, and effective even with what appears to be a (very slight) lateral lisp. It's honestly impressive and refreshing.

  • @taiiat0

    @taiiat0

    4 жыл бұрын

    sure - speed doesn't feel like you're waiting for the next sentence or segment, but there's also enough spacing to process everything before the next thing. i call this "knows how to make a presentation / be a speaker".

  • @zendell37

    @zendell37

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is a very good point. He's well articulated, but quick. And he's easy to understand. Like, technically well spoken.

  • @brabhamfreaman166

    @brabhamfreaman166

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could. Not. Agree. More. It works extremely well in the (IMO hugely underrated) OWV historical series. Nothing feels overly rehearsed and is frequently delivered whilst moving (sometimes backwards - try it, it’s actually surprisingly awkward!) and/or gesturing to relevant landmarks/nearby ruins.

  • @Jetmech145
    @Jetmech1454 жыл бұрын

    RIP H&K SCAR-17. You will be missed.

  • @vonWeizhacker69

    @vonWeizhacker69

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was amazing! Such a great combination of engineering and beauty will most likely never be seen again. Sad.

  • @christopherdean9684

    @christopherdean9684

    4 жыл бұрын

    von Weizhacker such an amazing combination of malfunctions, thumb breaking charging handles, optic breaking rails, and much more violent recoil then needed.

  • @herknorth8691

    @herknorth8691

    4 жыл бұрын

    You mean FN, right? Or is there a joke I'm not getting?

  • @Jetmech145

    @Jetmech145

    4 жыл бұрын

    The first up load of the video had HK SCAR-17 in the thumbnail. They have since corrected it.

  • @vonWeizhacker69

    @vonWeizhacker69

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@christopherdean9684 I thought that one is only suppossed to say nice things about the dead.

  • @omarrp14
    @omarrp144 жыл бұрын

    Oh mighty algorithm! Please accept my like and this comment as my tribute on behalf of In Range TV. Bless them with your algorithmic glory and bestow upon them many eyes and click so that they may grow.

  • @rurouniad

    @rurouniad

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @thecosmickid545
    @thecosmickid5454 жыл бұрын

    Karl has such a super clear and concise way of speaking that I could listen to him y’all about organic chemistry without getting bored, and actually understand it. Really fantastic presenter and teacher.

  • @DeepCFisher
    @DeepCFisher4 жыл бұрын

    Dont mind me, just here to boost the metrics

  • @a-cell4564

    @a-cell4564

    4 жыл бұрын

    DeepCFisherman Same man, just here for the algorithm.

  • @jamesdesrosier8226

    @jamesdesrosier8226

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mood

  • @IRMentat

    @IRMentat

    4 жыл бұрын

    How dare you.

  • @Rockwood777

    @Rockwood777

    4 жыл бұрын

    White is hot and dark is not. Praise be.

  • @skm9420

    @skm9420

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's supposed to be free world don't you know!

  • @z71tina
    @z71tina4 жыл бұрын

    Cool to see a roadrunner over his right shoulder at 1:17.

  • @RobinRobertsesq

    @RobinRobertsesq

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm, I would have said quail....

  • @thaBurninator

    @thaBurninator

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RobinRobertsesq maybe an anorexic turkey?

  • @RobinRobertsesq

    @RobinRobertsesq

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thaBurninator their natural range is limited to Scottsdale

  • @scottlloyd9762

    @scottlloyd9762

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its a quail. too fat to be roadrunner but perfect for quail. also the thing above the head is a quail only thing.

  • @captainswoop8722

    @captainswoop8722

    4 жыл бұрын

    Meep Meep

  • @levifontaine8186
    @levifontaine81864 жыл бұрын

    I've been into guns for a few years now and never actually knew how the piston driven ar15 differed from the direct impingement (mine is a regular direct impingement M16 copy). This is fascinating to see.

  • @ADSaaron
    @ADSaaron Жыл бұрын

    4:31 *"Whether it was a little short or not"* My man! I look for short videos! The fact that you were able to explain something in less time than most people shows how well you actually understand the concept. This video gets a like from me. *"If you cant explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"*

  • @jeramyw
    @jeramyw4 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Now how about thermal analysis of AK vs SKS vs VZ58?

  • @felixstieger9039

    @felixstieger9039

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, please.

  • @sirbassist

    @sirbassist

    2 жыл бұрын

    theyre all piston driven, so would look the same as the SCAR

  • @kurtb2522
    @kurtb25224 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed, learned, as always. Thanks, Karl!!

  • @InrangeTv

    @InrangeTv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it!

  • @kurtb2522

    @kurtb2522

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@InrangeTv This was so good good I had to see it twice twice! Science! Karl, Thank you!!

  • @freddykisback123
    @freddykisback1234 жыл бұрын

    Original video was flagged by HK because you knew tooo much.

  • @glandhound

    @glandhound

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was because neither of those rifles is a H&K.

  • @Octosnakes

    @Octosnakes

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@glandhound They're afraid someone will try it with the G36.

  • @troy9477
    @troy94774 жыл бұрын

    The thermal camera footage is very well done, and helps to clearly illustrate the points being made. And i agree, Karl's delivery is always excellent, clear and concise. Keep up the great work!

  • @BikeGuyFPV
    @BikeGuyFPVАй бұрын

    2:36 main reason they switched the charging handle to the rear was mainly from the artic testing grounds. Due to wearing big gloves in cold conditions, the guys testing out the AR rifles found it difficult to get at the charging handle. Hence, why you find the charging handle on the back of the upper receiver on AR rifles today and not on top of the upper anymore. This can be found in the Eugene Stoner interviews here on YT and he explains exactly that.

  • @calebcornwell8473
    @calebcornwell84734 жыл бұрын

    This was something I'd been told about the two systems, but seeing it happen is always better. Thanks!

  • @llamabing5215
    @llamabing52154 жыл бұрын

    This is cool, just having this stuff explained doesnt allways help but actually seeing it leaves an impression

  • @floatationdevice2107
    @floatationdevice21074 жыл бұрын

    Glad it's back up

  • @lunaticrider209
    @lunaticrider2094 жыл бұрын

    I love shooting my scar17s! Whether it’s Steel or brass ammo. On hot summer days or cold rainy days it hasn’t let me down. I can’t wait to put a short barrel on it. Cheers from California!

  • @chug2138

    @chug2138

    4 жыл бұрын

    209, yeah Galt! Woot-Woot!

  • @lunaticrider209

    @lunaticrider209

    4 жыл бұрын

    CHUG 213 Cheers from the 209 brother!

  • @thomassymonds6308
    @thomassymonds63084 жыл бұрын

    Cool Footage! I'm guessing the middle of the Scar Upper is heating up because it's where the barrel bolts to the receiver and the 6-o'clock rail.

  • @brainplay8060
    @brainplay80604 жыл бұрын

    That SCAR looked like it was getting REALLY hot in the block and barrel compared to the Brownells. I would love to see a burnout video like the do over at Iraqveteran8888. The effects of high round counts in a short time. Because let's be honest here. The AR15 if properly lubed, not doing that glove dry myth, will function just fine with 800rnds worth of blowback across the bolt. Cleaning happens between engagements whether its an AR or an AK.

  • @davidresetarits5616

    @davidresetarits5616

    4 жыл бұрын

    brainplay He did a video about a short-stroke gun, a HK416 i think, and the round count was pretty much the same as with an AR-15, but the handguard didn't got as hot since there is no gas tube running through it.

  • @brainplay8060

    @brainplay8060

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davidresetarits5616 Where did it fail? I figured the heat would be caught up in the gas block and the gas aperture would probably erode quickly or the block would fail. That's just a lot of heat in one area instead of dispersed across the longer area.

  • @alexjordan6371

    @alexjordan6371

    4 жыл бұрын

    You had better hope that cleaning happens lol

  • @charlesrichardson2372
    @charlesrichardson23724 жыл бұрын

    This is a great visual experiment of what actually applies to something you hold. Thanks man 🤙🤙

  • @brunoterlingen2203
    @brunoterlingen22034 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Karl, again a quality presentation, using the KISS system.

  • @jacobmichael1911
    @jacobmichael19114 жыл бұрын

    I would be interested to see more footage like this, it would be very interesting to see the effects of thermals on other systems as well, such as Blowback systems.

  • @joehruska8223
    @joehruska82233 жыл бұрын

    Great short video, answers my questions. Thanks

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree4 жыл бұрын

    Karl: Shows thermal imagery of rifles in action Commenters: OMG there's a bird!

  • @InrangeTv

    @InrangeTv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah...:(

  • @AlexSDU

    @AlexSDU

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where? I watch the video again after reading your comment

  • @thekraken1173

    @thekraken1173

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AlexSDU 1:17

  • @AlexSDU

    @AlexSDU

    2 ай бұрын

    @@thekraken1173 I saw it. Thanks for the time stamp.

  • @thekraken1173

    @thekraken1173

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AlexSDU It was 3 years late but glad you saw it.

  • @Al-lo7sz
    @Al-lo7sz4 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a follow on, suppressing both systems to see what the effects would be. Great vid, thanks!

  • @PoundItNailIt
    @PoundItNailIt2 жыл бұрын

    Perfect video! Thank you for all your efforts! Great education, great stance on all the things! 100% top notch and good form, sir

  • @paulmossom4725
    @paulmossom47254 жыл бұрын

    More thermal videos please. Interesting stuff!

  • @UnclePutte
    @UnclePutte4 жыл бұрын

    It was a fascinating expose.

  • @jesscollins1
    @jesscollins14 жыл бұрын

    Neat to see the roadrunner enter the scene just over Carl's right shoulder! (your left side of screen) at timestamp 1:16

  • @redrackham6812
    @redrackham68124 жыл бұрын

    Nothing wrong with a short video, especially not when it is as educational and informative as this one.

  • @michaciozda7463
    @michaciozda74634 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, thanks Karl!

  • @Maxtcc
    @Maxtcc4 жыл бұрын

    Very Interesting, Thank you.

  • @TheChadavis33
    @TheChadavis3311 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this breakdown 🙏

  • @reubensandwich9249
    @reubensandwich92494 жыл бұрын

    Didn't I watch this already or is there a rip in the matrix.

  • @nektonic1

    @nektonic1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@itsfyeo1520 It said H&K SCAR instead of FN

  • @aroundthebend721

    @aroundthebend721

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rip in the matrix...I saw this a week after you did.

  • @michaeljohnsonbaugh7962
    @michaeljohnsonbaugh79624 жыл бұрын

    Unintended comparison, but in the side by side shooting, you can clearly see the ergonomics and recoil mitigation implemented in the Scar platform. The sights on the Ar10 are bouncing considerably more than the Scar. It looks like the difference between shooting 7.62x39 Vs 7.62 NATO. Really makes me want to buy a Scar in the future

  • @InrangeTv

    @InrangeTv

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Ar10 platform is better.

  • @michaeljohnsonbaugh7962

    @michaeljohnsonbaugh7962

    4 жыл бұрын

    No....no... that’s not true, that’s impossible!

  • @iaidokaDVILL

    @iaidokaDVILL

    4 жыл бұрын

    @KillgoreES From what I understand, the whole SCAR program came about when SF were experiencing issues with their Colt rifles under combat conditions in the Stan, i.e. bolt breaking, barrels overheating. Once Colt addressed and corrected those issues, the SCAR seemed mute.

  • @alexjordan6371

    @alexjordan6371

    4 жыл бұрын

    The ar system no likey the sandbox

  • @KriegZombie
    @KriegZombie4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the intel. I noticed the other day that my Sig 716 wasn't heating up as much as my buddy's AR. Now I know why.

  • @fenaxtv
    @fenaxtv2 жыл бұрын

    Cool video, many thanks 👍

  • @BishezicespiceFAN
    @BishezicespiceFAN2 жыл бұрын

    That was exceptional YT video. Thank you..

  • @demonocolips
    @demonocolips4 жыл бұрын

    logically knew this never really thought about this. good short video.

  • @daningebretsen6784
    @daningebretsen67844 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video like this on sub guns for the difference in open bolt vs closed bolt. And blow back vs other( radially delayed maybe)

  • @theangrychairman
    @theangrychairman4 жыл бұрын

    Amazing stuff!

  • @aqualung.
    @aqualung.4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the interesting video, it’s always neat so see the information visually. I’m seeing noticeable difference in fouling between my AR-15 and BRN-180S. The piston gun’s bolt and carrier are cleaner at 500 rounds than the semi-DI‘s at 50.

  • @onelonecelt9168

    @onelonecelt9168

    4 жыл бұрын

    Piston guns also keep the bolts and carriers cooler during use, theoretically increasing service life of the action components. On a side note: does the handguard on the BRN-180S heat up noticeably during fire? I am interested in them, but I am leery of the m lok handguard they have on it.

  • @themastermason1
    @themastermason14 жыл бұрын

    As a left-hander, I prefer pistons over DI because the gas is bled off further from my face. This might not seem like such a problem for most but unless you're able to shoot in a dynamic environment like 2GAC, a gas cloud builds up in your face even in outdoor ranges.

  • @alexjordan6371

    @alexjordan6371

    4 жыл бұрын

    Guys who run cans know exactly what you mean

  • @bfish9700
    @bfish97004 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @emuriddle9364
    @emuriddle93644 жыл бұрын

    I've fired both an AK and a 7.62x39 AR before. There really is a difference in performance. With the 7.62x39 AR being easier to control.

  • @zackcorrell5746
    @zackcorrell57464 жыл бұрын

    love these guys

  • @loki98Bp
    @loki98Bp4 жыл бұрын

    0:56 "white is hot and dark is not" I love how that rhymes lol.

  • @marzcapone9939
    @marzcapone99394 жыл бұрын

    Nice work fellas

  • @DangerasTM
    @DangerasTM4 жыл бұрын

    this is a really cool idea

  • @honzabalak3462
    @honzabalak34624 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video.

  • @cannonroberts5129
    @cannonroberts51293 жыл бұрын

    Nice explanation

  • @f308gtb1977
    @f308gtb19774 жыл бұрын

    Very cool, thanks!

  • @ptw1987
    @ptw19874 жыл бұрын

    great video

  • @beforbefore2435
    @beforbefore24354 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the 7.62x51 information

  • @JanTuts
    @JanTuts4 жыл бұрын

    Last time I was this early, HK was still making SCAR-17's! :D Jokes aside: interesting video, *did* watch again :)

  • @glautreu8431
    @glautreu84314 жыл бұрын

    More thermal analysis! maybe P7 vs Glock? Idk but this is a cool concept and interesting to watch.

  • @pichikokis
    @pichikokis10 ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @InrangeTv

    @InrangeTv

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @deathsicon
    @deathsicon4 жыл бұрын

    saw a great video to illustrate this point years ago with some piston ar15 style rifle, dumped 3 mags on full auto, dropped the last mag and immediately opened it up and pulled the bcg out and held it with bare hands (no video cuts, was holding the bolt less than 8 seconds after the last shot fired), then challenged the video host (i think it was an old tv show) to do the same with his DI gun

  • @MrWarwick15
    @MrWarwick154 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Thanks Karl. Rich

  • @Otuhh
    @Otuhh4 жыл бұрын

    id like to see more thermals on more guns like the fal, g3 or an Aug.

  • @calinsa3880
    @calinsa38804 жыл бұрын

    I am absolutely not a "gun guy" but i swear i'm getting more info out of these video about engineering design then in my engineering design classes :D

  • @MrZonacat1
    @MrZonacat110 ай бұрын

    Very interesting!

  • @android61242
    @android612424 жыл бұрын

    Interesting topic.

  • @jacobharris7711
    @jacobharris77114 жыл бұрын

    awesome dude.

  • @NessNik
    @NessNik4 жыл бұрын

    That was fun , I like my FN scar 16 & 17 , that said ..my friends AR 15 & 10 run just as reliability at a fraction of the cost .

  • @mausercal65
    @mausercal654 жыл бұрын

    Very informative

  • @Gunner40Five
    @Gunner40Five4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video. It seems like the heat is "spread out" more in the DI gun. Like no one spot gets as hot as the piston area in the short stroke gun. I would have been interesting to see what the temps were in the hottest areas of both guns. Keep up the good work in range.

  • @xPaPaxZombiex
    @xPaPaxZombiex4 жыл бұрын

    Good Content Homies

  • @michaelpawluk6791
    @michaelpawluk67914 жыл бұрын

    You should do more videos like this

  • @timstanton6431
    @timstanton64314 жыл бұрын

    nice job Karl.

  • @InrangeTv

    @InrangeTv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @wanttohangoutjamesmay9058
    @wanttohangoutjamesmay90584 жыл бұрын

    It’s interesting to think about the triad offs of these two systems along with others, whether it be reliably over extended firing or accuracy over longer durations or fire. I,as a viewer would love to see a comparison of the accuracy over sustained fire and as a result of that test see the reliability of these two systems. The way they disperse heat is an engineering marvel and an intentional decision..... but who will win????????

  • @abigailvalletta3846
    @abigailvalletta38464 жыл бұрын

    That BRN-10 looks so good

  • @Lomi311
    @Lomi3114 жыл бұрын

    The predator test

  • @defaultusername123

    @defaultusername123

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just smear mud on it. It’ll still work (maybe).

  • @elwayfan01

    @elwayfan01

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@defaultusername123 icwutudidthar

  • @daa3417
    @daa34174 жыл бұрын

    Another point of note is the balance between the two systems. It’s not as pronounced with a rifle designed from the start to be a piston gun but on ‘converted’ ARs like the T91 the change in balance towards the front is majorly noticeable and it takes me a while to compensate when going from a 14.5 AR to my T91 clone.

  • @burgundypoint
    @burgundypoint4 жыл бұрын

    Do more action types please. Different handguard materials and designs. Heat molestation is really a thing when you shoot a lot. This could get interesting

  • @VashGames
    @VashGames4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting.

  • @christinepearson5788
    @christinepearson5788 Жыл бұрын

    Extremely interesting

  • @deltasource56
    @deltasource564 жыл бұрын

    Can you do the Ar 180 upper? ( thermal image it)

  • @Stout936
    @Stout9364 жыл бұрын

    Neat! Are you planning on showing us the rest of the guns? Could make a cool cyberpunk kinda vid out of the footage if you don't see much educational value in it

  • @antonioadinolfi4052
    @antonioadinolfi40524 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant.

  • @Spollekop
    @Spollekop4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I would really like to see the bolt face next time around. Too see how much heat transfers to the bolt in both systems.

  • @zendell37
    @zendell374 жыл бұрын

    Every time I see one of these videos I wonder if this is Karl's back yard. And if so...simply beautiful.

  • @jcoats150
    @jcoats150 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @u-wot-n8
    @u-wot-n84 жыл бұрын

    Already watched this on Facebook but have some algorithm food

  • @DiamantisGR
    @DiamantisGR4 жыл бұрын

    Does the difference in heat dissipation characteristics between the two systems has any implications in reliability over extended use in hot climates?

  • @CULatte

    @CULatte

    4 жыл бұрын

    Iirc, they did a video in the WWSD series on a wandering zero on using a pencil barrel. Something about a hot barrel going flaccid, if not not built correctly

  • @sanguinemoon9201

    @sanguinemoon9201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Using binary triggers I have seen that to be a factor. I only do that in 5.56 so my experience is limited

  • @am17frans

    @am17frans

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hot climates no. But it can be an issue in sustained fire.

  • @lexwaldez

    @lexwaldez

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CULatte You are correct sir. Modern, properly heat treated pencil barrels are just fine. Older, improperly heat treated pencil barrels went lipdick and gave wandering zeros. The verdict was that high quality, modern pencil barrels are just as good as heavier barrels, but only if properly heat treated. Crap pencil barrels are to be avoided.

  • @coreyp9211

    @coreyp9211

    4 жыл бұрын

    No. Even though there is more heat being distributed to the bolt carrier in an AR, the parts don’t get anywhere near hot enough to damage anything or cause any functional disadvantage. In fact the actual advantages of the AR’s gas system (less parts, lighter weight, smoother recoil impulse) far outweigh any perceived advantages of a short-stroke piston system.

  • @mkultraification
    @mkultraification4 жыл бұрын

    So basically, barrels get hot on piston systems. Barrels, bolt carrier's, and gas tubes get hot on an AR (whatever you want to call that gas system). So both of them get hot in the area where you hold them, but the AR has a second hot thing that runs the full length of the handguards and is closer to the hand than the barrel.

  • @InrangeTv

    @InrangeTv

    4 жыл бұрын

    And your conclusion is the opposite of handling in reality.

  • @mkultraification

    @mkultraification

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@InrangeTv I'm just looking at the footage. Both barrels were hot. Both gas blocks were hot. The AR gas tube and bolt carrier were hot. So both were hot in the same places, and the AR was hot in some extra places. What am I missing? Was the AR less hot at the barrel?

  • @bubba200874426

    @bubba200874426

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mkultraification the same ammo produces basically the same amount of heat. It being in fewer places means those places are going to be hotter.

  • @mkultraification

    @mkultraification

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bubba200874426 Maybe, but does it actually make a difference? Is a 245° piece of metal more comfortable to the touch than a 250° piece?

  • @JeremiahHartmanPhotography
    @JeremiahHartmanPhotography4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting this. got my tax stamp, about to assemble my piston upper sbr

  • @stevegonzales4411
    @stevegonzales44113 жыл бұрын

    Nice animation

  • @420BulletSponge
    @420BulletSponge4 жыл бұрын

    Very cool, this old dog learned a new trick

  • @rf9078
    @rf90784 жыл бұрын

    I thought HK made the Scar, anyways great video and keep it up man!

  • @StormBringare

    @StormBringare

    4 жыл бұрын

    HK makes the 416 and 417 which comes from the same program where SOCOM wanted a replacement for M4/M16.

  • @ChucksSEADnDEAD

    @ChucksSEADnDEAD

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@StormBringare username checks out

  • @StormBringare

    @StormBringare

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ChucksSEADnDEAD It's almost like I chose it for a reason 😘

  • @TheTuxMaster
    @TheTuxMaster4 жыл бұрын

    Can you do the same with a G3. During my military service in Sweden -89 I was equipped with a G3. I pretty much burned my hands after 3 "mag dumps" The whole damn gun was red hot. I really take a G3 in front of every other M16 / AK5 (FN?) really like that weapon!

  • @NavYblu99

    @NavYblu99

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why would you take a G3 over those weapons?

  • @TheTuxMaster

    @TheTuxMaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@NavYblu99 I like it. It's so easy!

  • @glandhound

    @glandhound

    4 жыл бұрын

    Typical Swede, blowing their load too quickly. Just shoot properly, don't mag dump.

  • @TheTuxMaster

    @TheTuxMaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@glandhound Taught me after all the Amisar I've seen. do not want to be worse

  • @NavYblu99

    @NavYblu99

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheTuxMaster It's heavier, longer, and higher recoiling than the other weapons you mentioned. How is it "easy" by comparison?

  • @Ompasikom
    @Ompasikom4 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if IRTV was going to do a video about this topic, ever since I read a gun forum posting saying a DI system doesn't heat up the barrel like a piston system does. :-)

  • @ArcturusOTE
    @ArcturusOTE4 жыл бұрын

    I do wonder if the less bolt heat advantage is why the M27 IAR got accepted as the USMC SAW instead of other entries. Alternatively, one of the other entries, SCAR HAMR, also operate on a short stroke piston, perhaps there was a flaw in the SCAR design that didn't made it favorable compared to HK's bid?

  • @danielal8230

    @danielal8230

    4 жыл бұрын

    m27 is just basically M4 with short-stroke so less training because the troops is already familiar with AR design

  • @jenkinsonian

    @jenkinsonian

    4 жыл бұрын

    The HK has the advantage is that the controls are the same as the standard issued rifle. No difference in the manual of arms so every one in the squad can use it with very little training. That additional training for the SCAR can add up in costs really quickly.

  • @danielal8230

    @danielal8230

    4 жыл бұрын

    and costs can spike up because not everyone in the corps is a gun nuts

  • @as2ds
    @as2ds4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @TheObso1337
    @TheObso13374 жыл бұрын

    Could you please film a series of thermal videos with different types of AK/handguard setups? I have owned a few AKs and one recurring problem seems to be just how hot they get from shooting. A lot of the handguards that I used have not been up to the task of keeping all that heat away from my hands.

  • @rpk5250
    @rpk52502 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video. Are you sitting out in the desert southwest someplace? Looks like west Texas

  • @TeamKhandiKhane
    @TeamKhandiKhane4 жыл бұрын

    A question that struck me as I watched the final comparison is if either system cools down faster or if that's just a mater of the materials ability to radiate heat. You'd think more surface area would allow better cooling but theory isn't always practical.

  • @foreststeel8842
    @foreststeel8842 Жыл бұрын

    Id like to see how a roller locked/delayed system compares

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis3 жыл бұрын

    Do you got the spec on the thermal camera used here? Can't really tell much but it must be VGA or greater resolution. As reflectivity is an issue, it might even be a cooler MWIR system? There seems to be fixed pattern noise tho, which is more of a microbolometer thing.