what I gather from this extremely detailed video about Skarner's new lore is that Riot Games has an in-house café

@Kikkia2018

Ай бұрын

I remember seeing it in Necrit’s video when he visited Riot HQ, they definitely did some renovations to make it look more like a cozy cafe. It was mainly just a bar and some vending machines I think

@ApostleThe344

Ай бұрын

And there are definitely some people using it more than others >..>

@panagia9007

Ай бұрын

is there something more stereotypical than a overweight colored hair individual with tattoos ina coffee shop?

@JLogg444

Ай бұрын

@@panagia9007I liked the setting. It was a cozy conversation about the decisions they made and direction they went with. Really gives you the right idea. Much prefer it to a sterile corporate news dump justifying their choices in the middle of the office like it’s a PR interview

@CursedSkimMilk

Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure bilgewater cafe has been around for a minute.

Horror is not the word i'd use to describe anything that was said in this video

@NateOce

Ай бұрын

She’s used to writing cute happy stories so that was horror for her I guess. League is waaaay darker than that so hopefully they do have some more horror stories

@enzad5254

Ай бұрын

id say its perfect. we have a fat white woman with blue hair wearing a mask indoors designing league champs.

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

theres a big scary ogre in the video but the real horror comes when you wonder what's under the fat folds

@thunderheadcinema6743

Ай бұрын

​@@enzad5254What? Does that make you ineligible to work for League of Legends?

@MarigoldAW

Ай бұрын

@@enzad5254 lmfaooooooooo

His new lore is that Rammus is his father and he trained him in the arts of ADC assassination and taught him the lost ancient language of OKing.

@gabrielsch8292

Ай бұрын

he is an anti tank tho

@Lamb666

Ай бұрын

Does Rammus and Skarner like the big boys?

@ju-inhum7896

Ай бұрын

I searched "Skarner's New Lore" in Google Search, and this comment appeared in the Focus box as the definitive answer. 🤩

@TymJun

Ай бұрын

Ok

@mgsBicycleO9

Ай бұрын

Riot hire this man

Ixtal defo lacked stories and characters, so I'm not angry Skarner's lore changed, but hextech's origin being replaced is pretty sad.

@guigoobode368

Ай бұрын

They probably just didn't want to deal with the implications of most of their "good guys" roster in P&Z benefiting from slavery 2.0

@LabRatz-Ivor

Ай бұрын

What even is hextech now? I feel like just making it so the brakern crystallised when they died would have taken less effort

@pseudolimao

Ай бұрын

@@LabRatz-Ivor yeah that's probably going to be where they end up, or just a normal ancient resource. Which is sad, because you know, the energy coming from the still alive and conscious crystalized souls of an ancient species that can communicate with the active bodies of said species, meaning those that are active will hunt you and kill you was such a metal concept. truly lame to see it go away.

@antares3030

Ай бұрын

@@LabRatz-Ivorpretty sure it will be answered in arcane 2

@Zxykary

Ай бұрын

Exactly. And it makes Seraphine even more useless in Piltover/Zaun because she now can’t even have a future arc where she interacts with her Hextech Crystals and potentially has interactions between Skarner and champions like Camille, etc. She could’ve actually been the relatable character she was created to be instead of just ‘pink hair girl who sings to poors’.

"It leaves a lot of questions about the brackern and hextech" Yes? Maybe it would be a good idea to answer some of those questions in... I don't know... some kind of dev blog where you spill the beans or something? Cmon, we want to get nerdy. Get nerdy with us Riot.

@Dat_Jonx

Ай бұрын

Well show doesn't explain where hexgems come from, and since Scarner retconned, here's your first question.

@valmiro4164

Ай бұрын

Because that could spoil Arcane season 2??

@NekoColaQ

Ай бұрын

This.

@lpk675

Ай бұрын

It's probably gonna be a big reveal in Arcane.

@RaptorTwitch

Ай бұрын

I just hope Seraphine remains a raging psychopath canonically as it were.

The Crystal Scar is weeping...

I just realized something tragic... With Skarner's complete overhaul and lore update to being an Ixtal champion, Riot gutted the Piltover lore. Hextech being tied to the Brackern is no longer a thing. Hextech in it's updated form (Arcane) is now just a magical rock, basically dumbed-down runestones. The Cammile/Seraphine connections to the Brackern is now completely dead.

@chakradarrat8832

Ай бұрын

we still have a bit of it with piltover trying to expand into ictal

@x-nimator9997

Ай бұрын

it'a what i thought at first, after listening closer to arcane's sound design. The hex crystals SCREAMS every time thye're used, so while they're not brackern souls anymore, it still holds something alive inside, so in a way plitover's crimes against nature are still there, so worry not. We can still hate camille and seraphine.

@jorgeflorez2816

Ай бұрын

​@@chakradarrat8832 Well not for hextech crystals which was the whole point

@softbread2073

Ай бұрын

the fact that this company cant simply separate the universe from a series from the universe of a videogame is soo pathetic, they rode on the popularity of Arcane and dumbed down the original, more expansive lore as if they werent confident enough on it, and thats sad

@ElReyDeNoche

Ай бұрын

They just wanted to streamline the lore and be more welcoming to new players that were coming in. They also realized thats some of the stories started conflicting with each other. So they opted for the classic strategy of rebooting the universe and used Arcane as the excuse.@@softbread2073

they keep saying "horror" but all i see is commanding, powerful and protective. like a elephant. not really horror.

@antares3030

Ай бұрын

it depends if that elephant is trying to trample you or not

@tokyodrifttt

Ай бұрын

Yeah I agree I’m really not seeing horror, paranoia, and fear at all. I see sturdy, steady, and protector. If she didn’t mention that or the eerie music, I wouldn’t have ever thought that’s what they’re going for.

@antares3030

Ай бұрын

@@tokyodrifttt well you can't really *see* the paranoia, it's probably in his voicelines somewhere

@apraham0

Ай бұрын

🤝🏻​@@antares3030

@penjamin1479

Ай бұрын

That's more of a visual design problem. If they leaned too hard on the horror, he'd stray too far from the rockscorpion look and also risk looking too much like a void creature.

Can’t wait for the 30 minute necrit video

@beastyms

Ай бұрын

Longer...

@Dewkage

Ай бұрын

​@@beastymsLonger......!

@arandomguyontheinternet2308

Ай бұрын

@@beastyms nah, three 20 minute videos

@swingandamiss47

Ай бұрын

@@DewkageLonger……….!!

@innuedo

Ай бұрын

Longer.....

Riot: We don't want to disrespect the current player that love Skarner's lore Also Riot: Let's just make him slightly eviler Malphite

@shadowfiendking

Ай бұрын

For real lmao

@vex080

Ай бұрын

womp womp for the 4 skarner mains

Just as a reminder, Skerner's original lore was about him waking up first and acting as a protector of his slumbering endangered species - then he had to come to terms with a newly-revealed fact that not only did humans almost cause his species' extinction, they were also unknowingly responsible for their creation as well (due to magical wars they waged). It's a powerful ambivalent feeling with no clear answers for morality, especially as humans were again mining in Kalamanda and harming the Brakern. Skarner had to protect them but also had to get involved in current politics in order to successfully achieve that. Piltover killing Brackern to plunder their soulstones was something that added clear negative traits to Piltover. Why is narrative scared of portraying Piltover as clearly morally wrong? Even in Arcane, the narrative is treating it as if it is not the sole reason for Zaun's deplorable state.

@thesnowmiser6728

Ай бұрын

How did Arcane make it look like it wasn't Piltover's fault?

Not a bad coffee shop commercial, and it's not really clear about Skarner.

Now he has almost the same lore as malphite. A gigant that protect the region from the void and others dangers. Pretty good you legit turn upside down the lore just for that

@Iago.Carvalho

Ай бұрын

Thank you. People simply. Doesnt understand neitherriot care about mains skarners cause this is exactly what we didnt want. They came ask us and still ignore it...

@Demonic121

Ай бұрын

Just because you see 'giant stone thing' doesn't mean it's that simple. He is a thousands of years old being that wants nothing more than to protect Ixtal from mostly the humans that in his many years of life he's seen cause so much chaos that he's struggling to know whether or not he even trusts the ones he's protecting.

@ismaelzambrana6831

Ай бұрын

@@Demonic121 i know it has a deeper story, but still i don't see it good enought considering how many time they have had to create an actually good lore to make him different from others champs. His old lore was still better than this because it was original, this one isn't

@Demonic121

Ай бұрын

​@@ismaelzambrana6831 My reply is only refuting that his lore is "almost the same as malphite." I don't agree with your opinion that the old lore is better, or "more original" but that wasn't what this was about.

@RprShadow

Ай бұрын

Don't forget 'Giant who protects the region from outside threats' is also the basic lore of Galio, Nasus, and volibear, in addition to Malphite and now skarner.

Emmmh, where is the horror base character mentioned in the intro?

@truthwatcher2096

Ай бұрын

The horror is that an entire powerful country is ruled by ancient, out-of-touch conservatives. Sounds familiar?

@RocoPwnage

Ай бұрын

Skarner is horror for people who can only watch horror movies in daytime.

@edgetheedgy3418

Ай бұрын

Horror means Fiddlesticks but Woke horror is different...

@soffio2000

Ай бұрын

​@@Arberin? Ok

@ChromaticEagle

Ай бұрын

@@soffio2000people on the internet are weird

"we want skarner to be a horror based character" Then they give him the cutest scorpion face ever seen and the cleanest body. Does riot knows how scorpions actually are? Old skarner was scarier than new one

@user-lo1eu2tv8j

Ай бұрын

judging by her appearance, everything that is clean and attractive is scary

@sinediss

Ай бұрын

@@user-lo1eu2tv8j :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

@ChromaticEagle

Ай бұрын

@@user-lo1eu2tv8jyikes dude

@IishPotato

Ай бұрын

​@@user-lo1eu2tv8j what?

@bulletcola7890

Ай бұрын

@@user-lo1eu2tv8juhhhh… Ok?

Truly a horror-themed character! A scorpion politician.

@Greenhawk96

Ай бұрын

a conservative isolationist scorpion politician

@capitanspoiler7393

Ай бұрын

@@Greenhawk96 sadly not even conservatives are THAT dumb

I don’t feel new Skarner horrifying at all, or maybe we don’t share the same concept of “Horror”.

@Greenhawk96

Ай бұрын

I mean they did just make him an old conservative patriarch bent on isolationism... i guess thats pretty terrifying

@TheMikequake

Ай бұрын

Horror like Alfred Hitchcock, not Saw or slashers. Though it would be more accurate to call the style suspense than horror due to changing public perceptions.

@johnnynotbegood

Ай бұрын

regardless of the theme its pretty hard to share any concept with someone that paints their hair blue and has a nose bull ring

@capitanspoiler7393

Ай бұрын

they are leftists and DEI hires, the most horrific things for them are conservatives and different opinions

@capitanspoiler7393

Ай бұрын

@@Greenhawk96 for a leftist, sure. for anyone with half a brain cell? not so much

I didnt get anything "horror" from the explanation and why is he completely different from the current skarner? Not even purple anymore.

@KaiReel23

Ай бұрын

He stopped eating peaches, because of Noxus sanctions on Shurima

@JumpscareRodent

Ай бұрын

Its pretty simple, Arcane already has the crystal/arcane explanation thing going on. They needed to move him, it also adds lore to Ixtal

@SC2Villares

Ай бұрын

And he is not purple for visual clarity, as well. Both purple and insectoids are very related to void, skarner was so close looking to Rek'sai, so very understandable.

@ForeverknightGaming

Ай бұрын

@@SC2Villares yeah but skarner came out fight

@ethanbuttazzi2602

Ай бұрын

we'll proabbly get whats shes saying after his biographty and side stories are released, if hes that paranoid, adn with him being preety much a force of nature, i can clearly see him getting rid of some pesky humans while they scramble to try and defet him.

They will have to change a lot of Piltover lore that was based on the Brakern - Skarner existence. Wasn't Camille 's core lore that of the family in Piltover that monopolised the expeditions for the Brakern-soulheart extractions that led to Skarner waking up and through that they became one of the most influencial and rich families?

@cheesecrew

Ай бұрын

There still only seems to be one Brakern left, so it could be possible that the reason(or at least one of the reasons) Skarner decided to close off Ixtal was to prevent Camille's family, and others, from gaining access to more of the powerful resources(whether it be from his Brakern brethren or something else).

@alessandrodefilippis4810

Ай бұрын

@@cheesecrew except the hextrech crystal came from shurima

@ethanstyant9704

Ай бұрын

@@alessandrodefilippis4810I think they could have changed the location, it wasnt exactly central to Shurima but they said that Brackern are no longer hexcrystals.

This video really felt like a whole nothing burger, like there was really nothing said here other than you really didn't understand old Skarner

Friendly reminder that Cho'gath is fifteen years old and still has no lore. Skarner has received two complete lore overhauls in this timeframe.

@domingopaz4587

Ай бұрын

Nam NAm NAM

@friedrice7

Ай бұрын

Ok

@pyroteknikk3127

Ай бұрын

Well at least we know they're from the Void! We don't even know who where when why Shaco is!

@domingopaz4587

Ай бұрын

@@pyroteknikk3127Ahahah!

@mrjeeble364

Ай бұрын

He received one really. His lore pre rework was basically the same lore he had from the start. They BRIEFLY changed his lore to a two sentence blurb trying to make him just a generic shuriman monster that quickly changed back to the original lore with pretty minimal updates

was wondering why the video was getting ratio'd so hard, after watching the video and the absence of actual lore discussion i get it

Did she forgot that Ixtal was secluded because they thought the world ended with the Void invasion and the fall of Icathia?

@squeezedbanana3385

Ай бұрын

They expand the Ixtal lore with a bunch of brainrot writers. Even Ixaocan doesn't make sense, they show us imagery of a towering colossal ivory pyramid city in the middle of a rainforest and have balls to call it "a hidden city".

@Strix2031

Ай бұрын

@@squeezedbanana3385I mean by the technlogical standarts of runeterra its pretty hidden behind a gigantic jungle.

@Strix2031

Ай бұрын

A few people know the world hasnt ended Qiyana for one has had encounters with Piltovans,the council also knows the world hasnt ended and obviously Skarner knows that the world hasnt ended.

@vel306

Ай бұрын

some people get on here..being loud and wrong lol..like yes it seems u read one part of the lore of ixtal but not the rest of it

@LintuWaterfall-ey9xo

Ай бұрын

@Blaziere - They saw the void shenanigans, wanted no part, closed their chunk of Shurima off and let the rest of the world burn. and yet the rest of the world survived and moved on, and only a select few within Ixtal know while the common folk think the world is just Ixtal.

Honestly I hate this. Reworking the whole lore to match arcane will not only kill ao many things that we love about the current Runaterra (as this new skarner shows), it will hinder the future narrative potential of Arcane.

@danielospinacastrillon70

Ай бұрын

The worst part is: they didn't need to do that. There was absolutely nothing on Arcane that won't let them keep the original story of hextech.

So what lore does Seraphine's crystal have now, those crystals used to have more lore than Sacho's

@arandomguyontheinternet2308

Ай бұрын

watch arcane

@nicolaspereyra420

Ай бұрын

Nothing, nothing at all To be honest Seraphine should not have exsisted. But skarner's old lore, that the souls of his people powered piltover's technology, was amazing, I don't get why they changed it

@funtasticboy6762

Ай бұрын

@@arandomguyontheinternet2308 there's nothing in arcane about seraphine or skarner

@truthwatcher2096

Ай бұрын

​@@funtasticboy6762everyone in Piltover uses the same crystals that your see in Arcane, if Arcane is even canon that is

@Iago.Carvalho

Ай бұрын

​@@nicolaspereyra420 they change for sell characters that arent that bad cause high society is already too much hated turn they in genocides will not make it better. AND a monster champ in the main roster? Nah will not sell in china

"we don't want to disrespect the people who loves skarner" proceeds to change him from Shurima to Ixtal, FROM DESERT TO JUNGLE.

@Greenhawk96

Ай бұрын

*proceeds to make him an unlovable unrelatable paranoid tyrant* DONT YOU ALL JUST LOVE HIM?

@ethanstyant9704

Ай бұрын

The location change is the least problematic part and is actually a change I'm a fan of. The disrespectful part is annihilating Hextech lore one of the foundations of League lore that an entire region is based off and was a very poignant commentary on colonialism and the ignorance of an upper class built on the suffering of an indigenous people. but no, ethnostate skarner is the more interesting lore i guess

The Brackern were so cool. Shame that Skarner was so drastically changed. Feel like the character was removed entirely outside of being a scorpion made of earthy materials.

if you look at their past 10 dev videos you can tell the type of people working at Riot now are the ones that have panic attacks the moment you go against their ridiculous ideas all the devs that made past League good have left

Look I'm happy you got to work on something you want, but come on, him being paranoid isn't horror in any way shape or form. I guess this new lore also retcons how Ixtal thought everything else was consumed by the void, since Skarner very clearly knows about it, as well as 10.000 years being weird considering the age of most other immortal beings in the lore.

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

she should keep working on guzzling down the seed oils and leave the stories to non obese men who have read good books

@cyarutchiii

Ай бұрын

@@diomio-ri2vo that's just fat phobic and misogynistic and has absolutely nothing to do with what I said

Skarner used to say 'I miss my kind' and this was sadder and more depressing than anything anyone could ever write into the lore and now theyve written that out and just made him big. He was the last living crystal scorpion soldier and you've killed him.

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

RIP china will pay

@ethanstyant9704

Ай бұрын

Seraphine won :(

@hughvonramdass8957

Ай бұрын

It's kinda funny how a bunch of folk are acting like they actually mourn Skarner when, before Seraphine came out, no one gave two farts about his existence lmao. Been playing league for years; if you asked anyone who Skarner was before Seraphine's release you'd get a confused stare at best

@mac203782

Ай бұрын

​@@hughvonramdass8957 I am not no one, I always cared. He is my fav champ and riot stage 10 genocided him, erasing his very history and denying it ever happened.

@N12015

Ай бұрын

​@@hughvonramdass8957 Because we didn't knew what they were used for.

So going with what was shown in Arcane, hex-crystals are just now magic rocks.

@ethanstyant9704

Ай бұрын

Cant wait for THAT reveal. You know thank god, it would have been really uninteresting to use hextech as a commentary on colonialism and the ignorance of the upper class causing suffering for others you know, that wouldnt have fit with arcanes themes at ALL

Always remember his old lore and how Seraphine used his dead siblings as fuel... Always remember!

@neilbertmillar9960

Ай бұрын

never forget 😂

@stargazer_jay12

Ай бұрын

Just like every Piltovean and some of people of Zaun too!

@supremeoverlordvader5552

Ай бұрын

Still, it's canon Seraphine eats scorpions alive

@segafan2437

Ай бұрын

it was Camille's family that did it. But Seraphine was the first one to notice...like 80 years later in the story. The whole "do you want to hear their song" part is still cruel.

@nicolaspereyra420

Ай бұрын

It wasn't seraphine, it was the entire city. She was the only one who could hear them but did nothing about it

the first 30 seconds of this video really are california personified

@FunkyAzzProductions

Ай бұрын

Hahaha top comment!

@dannybrown2950

Ай бұрын

Blue hair, overweight and wearing a mask at work in 2024. Yep!

@peanahbutta412

Ай бұрын

Think she’s going to push “THE MESSAGE” in the lore??

@Limrasson

Ай бұрын

@@dannybrown2950 I know prejudice is wrong and shouldn't assume anything, but she doesn't make this easy. Brightly coloured hair? Tattos? Piercings? She is also a creative on top of all that, plus what you guys pointed out. Well in the end what matters is what she does, right? Is this new Skarner good? I stopped playing a long time ago so I wouldn't know (not even sure why KZread is shoving LoL videos my way either)

@raynalldoprime

Ай бұрын

@@Limrasson the stereotype cant be dodge

Horror where? You can't have Fiddlesticks and then Skarner and say horror.

God Forbid Seraphine ends up in a bad light🙄

@vel306

Ай бұрын

would’ve been fine if y’all didnt complain about everything, now piltover lore doesn’t make sense now guess that’s what y’all wanted

@JohnDoe-ji5cr

Ай бұрын

@@vel306 Bad writing is bad writing. All of the bandaid changes just show how flimsy it was in the first place.

@Syenthros

Ай бұрын

@@vel306 Would've been fine if they didn't write their Sona rework to be an actual monster the first time around.

@seancollins7482

Ай бұрын

​@vel306 honestly bro, your right... why should we want the lore of a world we invest so much time in to be good and make sense? Your right. We should just let them blast a great world with a shotgun and create more plot holes

@vel306

Ай бұрын

@@seancollins7482 you do realize the original lore of seraphine wasn’t THAT bad right?, seraphine didn’t know about the souls of the bracken just knew something was off. but you guys kept focusing on this one distasteful voiceline “mind you they got rid of the voiceline” and now they removed skarner from that story to appease the complainer and know camille’s story “one of the best” is basically destroyed

I will always miss old skarner lore 😢

@Betroid

Ай бұрын

Said noone ever I miss old varus lore

@skyclaw36

Ай бұрын

Getting used as experiments by Seraphine

@unluckysmug

Ай бұрын

I miss my kind…

@neilbertmillar9960

Ай бұрын

blame Seraphine 😂

@arandomguyontheinternet2308

Ай бұрын

@@neilbertmillar9960 blame arcane actually, the reason of the change was to make the lore more consistant with arcane´s version of hextech

Arcane season 2 better do something good with the hextech lore to make up for this

Man it'd be so great if you had some sort of Card Game with a small but passionate competitive scene to really showcase all this great art and lore...OH WAIT

If I'm just being honest. I don't want to see shots of an in-house cafe, and I'm not particularly interested in how one of senior writers are letting their personal preference influence the lore of a character they've done so little right by. Horror stories are cool, silly stories are cool, it all plays into making Runeterras lore really awesome and appealing. I like the parallels between Skarners noble intention, his almost chivalrous nature - where it once lied in his dedication to his lost kin, where now it lies in the people of Ixtal. I like the complexity of a character wanting to do his best, but being paranoid and dangerous in his own ight. But removing the core aspects of Skarner and the Crystal Scorpion fantasy is just removing Skarner as a whole. People remember Skarner for his unique design, "crystal scorpion" isn't some fantasy cliche, and if it somehow was, it's not any more cliche than "fire wizard x2" or "blue magic man x3". The old Brackern lore is what made hextech a more morally-complex resource to be utilized. The contrast between hextech and chemtech were highlighted as well. Hextech, as shown in Arcane, is far more powerful than Chemtech, but harder to come by. It seems like the cleaner, more efficient form of technological innovation, and it's like you get to take the moral high road in developing it - for those who don't know where the hextech comes from at least. Not to mention that now his interactions hardly make him sympathetic. He beefs with Zyra - I can't wait to see how they justify that. Zyra came from the Rune Wars, and she's a powerful plant wizard who likes eating people. How is that some sort of valuable asset to Skarner, who needs the jungle to repel invaders from harming Ixtal? Even if he didn't like her for some moral reason they posit, it could be played as making a deal with a devil - in direct reference to the character he is: willing to make sacrifice for his people, be it morally, or physically. I personally have never seen a Plant Witch being bargained with by a giant scorpion paranoid for the safety of his people. The possibilites for a morally complex and multi-layered situation being presented by the likes of a giant monster character would be a great call back to who Skarner was and what he represents in Leagues roster, in game and in universe. Instead, it seems to have been traded for a generic monster, with a superiority complex, trying his best to keep some people safe. There is little sympathy or rhetoric to be made for the character he is now. He's a big strong scorpion, who's a bit paranoid, and says he leads through respect but is juxtaposed by his merciless and borderline cruellness in his interactions. It doesn't show a moral complexity, it looks like a tyrant whos actions speak louder than his words. This is not my Skarner.

@x-nimator9997

Ай бұрын

Zyra is not a simple plant wizard tho. That was her old lore. Nowadays she's an amalgamation of infected plants taking the form of a human who's ready to kill ixtals just bcuz they're human. Ofc skarner would have beef with her. ...also let's be real, old skarner had no personality other than "am sad". And if we see this more realistically, his story had no direction. Sure, his kind was being used as batteries for filthy filthy piltovians, and skarner wanted to have revenge....yet he was alone. If he tried to strike piltover alone, he would probably meet the same end as the other brackern. Outnumbered and outmatched by the filthy machines of jayce, possible ending and yet another pretty accesory for seraphine to wear. Was that really what you wanted for skarner? Nothing but frustration at the end of the tunnel? In that sense i kinda finally understand why riot took the brackern away from hextech. Sure it was tragic but story wise it had no other end. Skarner COULDN'T fight back piltover alone, and nobody would've liked to side with him.

@thatguy963

Ай бұрын

@@x-nimator9997 The point you're making is in direct ignorance of what I said. Skarner needed a VGU, and he needed new lore, that wasn't in question. The execution is poor though. The VGU holds almost no semblance to what Skarner used to be or the role he filled. The design is very nice, but without any reference to what Skarner is, they've taken the champion in a completely different direction gameplay and lore wise, effectively deleting him from the game. Regardless, Zyra isn't just a plant wizard, just like Annie and Brand aren't just fire wizards and Ryze and Xerath aren't just blue magic men. There's more to them, and that's what let's them to both exist. Zyra isn't just a brainless plant, which is why her lore, alongside Skarners could be made better by adding unique and meaningful interaction between them instead of just conflict because a clash of interests, or rather, lack there of

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

*americlaps in solidarity against chinese videogame destruction*

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

if you're gonna say that and not understand that rogue champions belonging to no factions should be a thing then... @@x-nimator9997

@isaacPc9

Ай бұрын

@@thatguy963what do you mean? He‘s still the same old skarner. He still has Impale, but better, he still has his shields, he still has a projectile. Everything old has been renewed in a mix of abilities and additionally he gained new stuff like terrain ignore.

This video would NOT survive IG comment section 💀💀💀

Who will empathize with a paranoid? Is quiet hard. This will lead to one of two endings: uprising against him with a tragic end, or Skarner's change of mind.

@Strix2031

Ай бұрын

Skarner will probably change his mind even if just a bit. Fairly sure Qiyana is set to become queen of Ixtal at some point in the future.

@emilioa.bayardoarceo758

Ай бұрын

@@Strix2031 I hope so. Cuz I empathized more with the old Skarner's lore than the actual.

@conman9957

Ай бұрын

They've positioned him in ixtal because ixtal doesn't matter. They've made him a paranoid guardian, because his mind will never change. I don't think skarners will ever ever change from this extremely static point. He has been this way for hundreds of years in lore. Just an isolationist giant scorpion. They've tucked him far away from any relevancy or progression.

@Seiryuujin1

Ай бұрын

@@conman9957 that is the worst thing about those +1000 y.o. characthers. You would need a huge thing to happen for them to change their mind. If changing a 60yo person is hard imagine it 100x harder

"We're going to keep the lore consistent by changing everything (again) and removing everything that made this character interesting in the setting."

@TheRhetoricGamer

Ай бұрын

"We're going to do something incredibly new and unique by having yet another character with a one-note personality motivated by xenophobia and hate."

@RedHairShanks-bb3dc

Ай бұрын

blame Seraphine 😂

@TheRhetoricGamer

Ай бұрын

@@RedHairShanks-bb3dc The problem (one of many) with Seraphine was that she's supposed to be an innocent likeable character, but they gave her a backstory where her actions are tone deaf at best and blatantly evil at worst. The moral dilemma with the bracken could have made for an engaging backstory if the rest of the character was built around it. But that's not what they wanted. They wanted a cute popstar waifu that's highly marketable to Chinese and Korean players.

@AkuniLesare

Ай бұрын

@@TheRhetoricGamer Pretty much that. Seras lore was pretty interesting. She was suffering and isolated herself until she got the crystal. She then used it, not knowing what it was. That was a good lore base. You can branch so much into the horror of learning the truth and the inner struggle of the benefits versus the costs. But they completely dropped the ball on that.

Am I the only one who thinks the new rework only having 4 legs looks goofy and unstable?

We could have still left out his Crystal origin yah know, it doesn't even have to be Hextech, new Skarner just needs to have more crystals and less dirt smh... 🙃

@conman9957

Ай бұрын

Wouldve preferred him being tarics best friend from another dimension than this

What do you mean horror? He's just a boomer now

Still waiting for where "horror" fits into this champion

You can try to erase the Brackern Genocide but some of us will never forget what Seraphine took from us.

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

remember the uyghurs. i mean the brackern

@eliserss

Ай бұрын

i play seraphine a bit but i'm not like the others... i actually have a clean energy hoverboard after i learned of the plight i was causing to skarner's people

@ethanstyant9704

Ай бұрын

​@@eliserssCamille's family actually invented synthetic hextech which didnt use Brackern crystals but the production of those is the reason Zaun is green. It's like saying you dont support the meat industry for their treatment of animals then use child slave labour to farm plant alternatives

@travisprescott9708

Ай бұрын

How did seraphine take that away from us.

@ethanstyant9704

Ай бұрын

@@travisprescott9708 seraphine created the biggest instance of lore disrespect

We need hard times again. Coming soon.

Personally, I have mixed feelings about this video. As much as I like the VGU, I just hate the fact that the Lore behind Kalamanda and the Crystal Scar is literally being thrown away, as if it never existed in the first place. For new players it might be a refreshing look, but for Veteran's like me who have been invested in the Lore for a very long time, it's a punch in the face. While I understand that Dominion has not been played much by players during it's existence which ultimately led to it's removal, it still amazes me how relentless Riot has been in regards to treating the Lore around this place. Skarner's awakening was literally near the Crystal Scar. If Riot really wants to do that place any justice, at least mention his past, so that his Lore between Ixtal and Kalamanda are somewhat tied together. That alone would be enough.

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

dominion got removed because of china.

"We dont want to disrespect the people who love Skarner" but also basically Hextech lore was difficult and nuanced so now we have to get rid of it. Now we just have ethnostate Malphite and hes been moved to the region that is never talked about. God forbid piltover be a society with inherent problems like every other region, no piltover is perfect but its just the people which make it bad you see if only the "right people were in charge". New skarner gameplay is sick though

look at that monster

No one takes Riots more seriously anymore

just wanted to login and got this jumpscare deluxe. unlucky i go again next patch

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

what do you mean that thing is stunning and brave

I hope Cho'Gath doesn't end up with this kind of ""horror"" lore treatment.

@Syenthros

Ай бұрын

"We decided that Gentleman Cho'Gath is his canon form now."

why do i know who she's voting for. i shouldn't know that

I like that we get a new villain after so many of them were retconned to tragic or misunderstood characters. What I do not like is that it had to be skarner cause the idea of being the last of his kind trying to protect anything left of his kind and their hive mind connection that makes the cry in agony when one of them becomes Hextech was amazing lore.

This one does not spark joy.

Someone told you this reaction would happen. You didn't care, though, and did it anyway.

Skarner and horror don't really go that well along. Just like when you called Yuumi the monster champ quota (so Lilia). The snuffing out of the Brakerns sound more like a big wipe from erase any stain on Seraphine (i guess their interaction is also lost)

From cool crystal scorpion to generic stone whatever...

@RedHairShanks-bb3dc

Ай бұрын

blame Seraphine 😂

@bernardo1133

Ай бұрын

Cool? Xd

@JumpscareRodent

Ай бұрын

Hows he generic at all. Ive never seen anything like new Skarner

@VeeZzz123

Ай бұрын

@@bernardo1133 right? this people are delulu

@ravingdeath5182

Ай бұрын

no yeah fr I mean I've never seen a 10000 year old kaiju scorpion that is also the head of a corrupt government. Thats such a tired trope by this point.....

can make this lore up in 5 minutes

@sharlcloves4216

Ай бұрын

This overpaid DEI hire who probably hates white people and men, probably thinks writing post-it note level lore for a dumb dying video game means something. People cared more when the "lore" was just chaotic and fun, instead of these talentless whales trying to make it organized and formal like the bible.

Riot reworks low play rate character mains of the characters gets excited butcher and change what they liked about the character mains stop playing champion sees more play due to having "modern" mechanics (46 dashes) Riot Games releases a dev update on youtube saying "We are happy with the changes we made :)"

@ethanstyant9704

Ай бұрын

The gameplay kit change is actually really good imo. its the lore thats the travesty

Wasn't the original lore more interesting lol haven't they changed the main thing why people liked this character lol

@RedHairShanks-bb3dc

Ай бұрын

Blame Seraphine 😂

@panagia9007

Ай бұрын

@@RedHairShanks-bb3dc nah i'll blame colored hair devs

@Crocthunder

Ай бұрын

@@panagia9007People hated the skarner crystal harvest change years before this was your new hot buzzword of the year

@panagia9007

Ай бұрын

@@Crocthunder at least it was still skarner, they just deleted and made another character

@madnard8744

Ай бұрын

just for the comment you made before am more than happy that they changed his lore@@panagia9007

Nothing can't top his old lore Hex tech being fueled by the souls of creatures was god tier writing. You could have made him ixtali and a visual rework but keep that Arcane was great but man, unifying all of the lore was bad for a lot of reasons

@RedHairShanks-bb3dc

Ай бұрын

blame Seraphine 😂

@nicolaspereyra420

Ай бұрын

@@RedHairShanks-bb3dc Seraphine should not exsist but I blame arcane for this. Making jayce a marry sue himbo was a mistake. His old lore was that he was the one that discovered the existance of brakkern souls inside the crystals and proposed something different, that's way more badass

@Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.

Ай бұрын

At least we got a cool scorpion god out of it.

@Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.

Ай бұрын

Let's just hope this whole unification will go bad and Arcane will be left in the corner doing its own thing. Let the alternate story be an alternate story.

@phimau8104

Ай бұрын

​@@Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.The lore is a fractured and splintered mess, so f that, bring it together

Dont think they know what horror means

so what i got from this is that Elyse and her team think that kaiju = horror, just automatic, don't need anything threatening or scary looking a kaiju is just simply dread and horrifying. that or that Skarners paranoia makes him a scarry.

"We hope his new lore is worthy- " Guys, you just changed everything about his character, just like you did to galio, you can't seriously believe this is good

@EpidemicPain

Ай бұрын

Galio is at least from demacia Skarner was not even from ixtal

@Syenthros

Ай бұрын

@@EpidemicPain Was Ixtal even a *thing* when Skarner released?

@MagnusXL

Ай бұрын

​@@EpidemicPain This reminds me of the time when they moved like a fourth of the cast to the freljord and turned Trundle from a small, funny plague troll taking on all the ailments and curses of his people into a big, dumb generic frost troll.

@EpidemicPain

Ай бұрын

@@Syenthros no, no it was not

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

galio used to also have an amzing voice. same guy who does grigori thedragon in dragons dogma. guess who David Lodge also voiced? skarner. now some bearded fat guy does the galio voice and we may get him for skarner as well siiick! i hate china.

Okay, gotta be honest, I don't need to see cuts of the devs getting coffee. I just want to hear you talk about the lore. The director behind this is trying to be hip. "Ooo, look at this Rioter get a coffee! We're so casual & and cool, guys!" I prefer the way dev vids usually have been made. Just the dev(s) talking, whether it's sitting, standing, lying, upside down, etc, while talking about the topic. Usually with some League footage to help visualize the top. I don't need these cinematic cuts away to coffee time that has nothing to do with the topic. Unless those were Skarner coffee cups.

@reyalfa18

Ай бұрын

bro chill, it's literally just a few seconds of a coffee. what's wrong with league players man

@Jeddy027

Ай бұрын

​@@reyalfa18 I'm just providing some feedback that this directing doesn't vibe with me.

@reyalfa18

Ай бұрын

@@Jeddy027 okay cool

@jagx234

Ай бұрын

Agreed.

@conman9957

Ай бұрын

I think it'd work if it was condensed. Like within 8 seconds we see her walk in, coffee being made, then she starts talking. Then when you need cutaways show the coffee being made. It doesn't need to be so drawn out though

old lore >> new lore

I don't care that she's wearing a mask or has diff colored hair, the coffee cuts are just very distracting. She talks about giving skarner a "horror" theme but what I see is a cozy cafe with jazzy music intercut with coffee making lol... the funny thing is that it takes effort to film, stage, cut and edit this together. Had they put no effort and just filmed her at her work desk drawing or researching as b-roll, it'd be better suited, or anything else better suited to the theme

If i was in charge of skarner's new lore, I don't think I'd ever show my face to the fan base. That is if I knew what people liked about the champion whose personality and story I was in charge of re-defining .

Cool. I'm gonna enjoy reading his colour story.............there's gonna be a colour story.....right?

@Arberin

22 күн бұрын

The color is blue. You're welcome.

So, no longer will we have depressed, friendless Skarner? 🤔

@ethanstyant9704

Ай бұрын

Now we have ethnostate Skarner

So no crystals?

They should rework illaoi into a cuthulu tentacle monster

I mean, the horror was in the mirror al the time.

and to think, people are trying to hype up the Riot MMO cause of the "lore potential!" and "omg Runterra IP is so amazing!" when this is the state of the lore, Riot gutted their narrative team and making Arcane canon ruined what little there was in the lore.

the horror aspect might be the music theme in 1:29

I'm on board. But where is the horror?

@Nek-oski

Ай бұрын

Well maybe its just the fact that if you'd meet a gargantuan scorpion that just casually rushes you charging through mountain outta nowhere devastating everything on its path you'd definitely be horrified by this sight. But thats just me pondering XD

Having to rewrite all that made piltover interesting just to not make Seraphine/Camile/Jayce/hiemerdinger into less morally complex feels pretty lame to me. The hextech being good for progress bad for innocent creatures in a way that mirrored real world whaling industry i thought was super cool and grounded the fantasy by showing that piltover's ambition leads to ignorance and harm for others WAS the part that made the city of progress stories worth reading into. I feel like Skarner should be smaller. To have him on a kaiju level instead of the size of a small plane is probably going to make him incredibly hard to work into new stories because he is just too massive for other characters to interact with. Just to counter out. I really like Skarner's new design, he is my most played champ of the past 2 years...but i feel like changing his lore does more harm than good overall.

@Strix2031

Ай бұрын

I disagree on pretty much everything besides that he should be smaller,how does Ixtal even communicate with him lmao.

@Syenthros

Ай бұрын

@@Strix2031 Very carefully.

Who fed gwen??! You're reported, gg go next!

@maxx_ez

Ай бұрын

She rolled down the lane like Nunu W. I couldn't stop it!

Imaging having 2 years to create the lore and learning nothing except unclear broad platitudes of paranoia.

@sharlcloves4216

Ай бұрын

This overpaid DEI hire who probably hates white people and men, probably thinks writing post-it note level lore for a dumb dying video game means something. People cared more when the "lore" was just chaotic and fun, instead of these talentless whales trying to make it organized and formal like lord of the rings.

I will miss his old lore but I understand why they had to change it. Making him one of oldest leaders of Ixtal that became paranoid about the outside world is kinda intreasting.

@user-oo3ko6qo1f

Ай бұрын

if you had 10,000 years of knowledge and experience, would you really be worried about the hairless apes?

@lordmerikh

Ай бұрын

so like Kong of Skull Island? or Godzilla?

@segafan2437

Ай бұрын

I dont know if it is more interesting that a silica based life form that conmunicates in sound frequencies and transfers their memories to their offspring...with the tragedy of their ancient way of life being ruined by modern industry... I like new skarner and actually am a skarner player, he was my most played last 2 years...but it does feel a lot less interesting for the runeterra world as a whole without the hextech.

@supremeoverlordvader5552

Ай бұрын

@@user-oo3ko6qo1f if you care about them then yes that's a love

@ridori7376

Ай бұрын

He also serves as a nice contrast to Qiyana and Millio. Qiyana is an arrogant narcissist who wants to expand Ixtal's borders for her own benefit, Millio is a bright eyed innocent kid who wants to help his people be more open minded and Skarner is an old, stubborn conservative who believes he has his people's best interests in mind. I do think he comes across a bit too aggressive in his voice lines though

Sakrner is now anxious and paranoid I'm wondering why...

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

problematic people are usually anxious and paranoid: times up! B^}

Reminds me about Julius Caesar and the coup formed to betray him, Skarner being overthrown would be interesting.

Some of the lore decisions seem a bit confusing, but it was awesome to see the concept thumbnails @2:25.

sooo you started with coffee and ended up with a matcha but what you really need is water 0:23

RIOT just flexing their dope cafe

Omg, Tahm Kench is talking about the new lore, he's so cool

@saphcal

Ай бұрын

wtf is wrong with you?

so insted of a keystone holding back tech and being part of what makes hextech not just "the good guys stuff" now we have another paranoid Ixtali, thanks, realy needed to take 10 steps back on hextech to make this hapend

why riot? how could you stoop so low? also why do I see the biggest sheet of bedding in first 5 seconds?

maybe the horror was the friends we made along the way

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

maybe the meta horror is the fact that they destroyed a champion and hes the prime example of the game going to the chinese wet market soup-dogs

Man I sure got my hopes up that this would be some sort of summoner showcase style bit. Anyone remember that in-client show back in the day?

2 years later after announcing the skarner rework we get lore OMG i cant WAIT... to WAIT another year for actual content

"we don't wanna disrespect the people who love skarner and the reasons why they love skarner" ...is this a bad joke I don't understand? because you are doing EXACTLY that. you are literally RIPPING HIM COMPLETELY out of the Crystal scar lore, where he was a vengeful spirit that disliked the mining operations on BASICALLY MAGIC CRYSTALS and shove him in a Magic-Racist society as a guardian???? How is that NOT disrespecting the people that love skarner? You are literally deleting the last ties ANYTHING has to the crystal scar! Thanks for wiping one of my favorite original lore pieces completely out of the League universe and F'ing up one of my favorite characters while you are at it.

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

we should have rioted when china took out dominion... and when they didnt make magma chamber a thing... and when they took out twisted treeline.. but we have been corralled by our slant eyed overseers

Necrit can surely make a 40 min video out of this, right?

my boy making it through

at 0:20 the barista made her reach far for her cup lol 🤣

Ok, I understand why he is paranoid, and why he is so ruthless, if he's around for that long he saw everything He saw Morderkaiser reign and his resurrection, the Runewars and the war of Shurima and Icathia, he saw the void rift been open, the fall of Shurima, the Darkin Wars... But although the totally deserved lack of trust he has towards humans, he also loves them And that's the part that should be better explored, he is like an old worried grandpa, he can be rash but at the end of the day he only wants to see them smile while safe from danger Using "horror" to describe him is very misleading, unless you're talking about the horror of losing your own sanity, horror of giving voice to your paranoia, if that's the horror we're talking about, I'm on board But I really hope Skarner doesn't become the "evil insane tyrant" but the "old conservative protector" instead

@diomio-ri2vo

Ай бұрын

multiple people have already pointed out that "horror" to this weird seed oil ogre monster is actually just what you stated: a somber and conservative government

You and riot comepletely disrespected us now, this is crazy.