This game was way ahead of its time actually. Even today, some devolopers aren’t able to make a game without loading screens. NaughtyDog managed to make it in 2001. Fucking Kings

Devs Play. The best thing ever. I love this stuff. This is great information for light developers/people interested in how games are made.

@jakeabel2548

8 жыл бұрын

+Adam Hearst Animations Yea when I think game developers I think of people that do all that or a team that does that.

@stopfidgetting

8 жыл бұрын

+Adam Hearst Animations Don't forget particle artists :]

@JackToeRip

8 жыл бұрын

+Jake Abel and just how much dedication and shortcuts they sometimes take

Whoa, I forgot how much late 90's raditude Jak's character design has. Daxter is cute though. I definitely see the influence on Psychonauts, in the goggles department.

Nice to see a dev criticise their past projects, often I find they dare not bad mouth the game at all, as not instill some bad will towards a company or not to upset fans

@codacious14

7 жыл бұрын

Really, I often find dev badmouthing their past projects too much, and trying desperately to cater to their fanbase without admitting to their accomplishments.

I miss the blue eco buff so much. It felt so good when you got going and you just soaked everything up like a magnet.

i loved crash bandicoot: the precursor legacy

@TechWizard28

Жыл бұрын

It was more of a Banjo/Zelda clone than a Crash clone. It's closer to Spyro than Crash

@ci7210

8 ай бұрын

​@@TechWizard28a Crash Bandicoot game that's similar to Jak and Daxter would be awesome. Crash Twinsanity had the idea but being rushed forced the devs to cut a ton of content

My favorite 3D platformer, hands down. Fluid controls and animation, decent variety without feeling gimmicky, and, probably because of the little ways the levels connected to each other, and the fact that some areas are hinted at but never seen, the game world had a sense of verisimilitude.

Please do something with a Sly Cooper dev next.

@danylbekhoucha6180

7 жыл бұрын

SpeedAnchor or Ratchet and Clank or all three.

I've always loved the little touches in Jak and Daxter games, like the vast variety of animation (Jak's hair bending when swimming, Daxter's speeches after dying etc.). Yet I've never understood how difficult these kind of things can be to make. Nowadays you laugh if you see a big budget game where the character's appearance does not change when standing under a waterfall. This kind of insight on how games are/were made is awesome, and it makes me want to know more. Thank you :)

Just because a game is stylized doesn't mean everything else is watered down. To me, stylized characters offer more in the way of animation, which leads to stronger scenes compared to the stiffer realistic character. As such, you can play up emotional moments in scenes since the character your using is a lot more versatile.

When this game came out, it was probably among the top 10 games ever made up to that point. A masterpiece through and through. Awesome to hear Jason talk about it after all these years.

Naughty Dog games have really come a long way but I'd love them to do something more cartoony again as well: Jak&Dexter was an amazing series and you can do very complex and cinematic stories/gameplays in a cartoony setting too. Instead of going for perfect visual realism, use all that power to go for something that simply looks cool.

ONE OF THE BEST PLATFORMERS IN MY LIFE!

That camera thing for transitioning to high resolution blew my mind. I've completed this game 101% more times than I can count and I never noticed that.

Really cool comments from Jason this episode. Interesting to hear how some of his feelings of the game are different to the consumer based on his behind-the-scenes knowledge of the development. The Jak design in particular, I actually thought was striking and evolved well over the course of the series, but I can absolutely understand Jason's frustrations feeling like he was 'designed by committee'. You can't fault the green eyebrows, though!

31:58 Fun fact: The fisherman was voiced by Kevin Conroy aka Batman

@andrewarren4157

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't know that

@KirsharReacts

Жыл бұрын

rest in peace :(

Hope you guys do a video with someone from Sucker Punch to talk about the Sly Cooper series, finishing that trinity of PS2 action platformer series

@AgentOttsel

8 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@ebtrax4081

8 жыл бұрын

yeah they should do that

@forgottenmohawks8734

5 жыл бұрын

OMG yes!

Slowly becoming my favourite thing to watch on KZread... maybe even the internet xD.

Here's a question: Who did Jak's groans, yells, moans, etc, in Precursor Legacy, it's nowhere listed

This is such a lovely series. Jak and Daxter is one of my favorite platformers.

Jak and Daxter & Crash Bandicoot is basically my the whole of my childhood & why i got into gaming.

I never played J&D, but I did play R&C and Sly, which were kind of 'The Big 3' in the PS2 era imo. This should be an interesting watch.

I got a $40.00 check for my communion from my grandma and I immediately took the money to buy this game. I've already commented on the spyro vid about what I think these games mean, but keep up the good work guys.

I loved Jason's thoughts about design by committee. In the first game, Jak felt incredibly generic compared to the other characters. I loved how much they made him his own thing in Jak 2.

@IronCurtaiNYC

8 жыл бұрын

+N Pak Agreed. It was great how in Jak 2, Naughty Dog realized some of their mistakes with Jak 1 and improved on them. Making the game similar to Grand Theft Auto actually improved Platforming games.

@codacious14

7 жыл бұрын

Story wise and character wise Jak 2 was a lot better it's true. But gameplay wise it lost its identity, who wants to trudge through that boring gray city, it's a kid's version of GTA 3 but even more boring. Platforming is a great genre and it's where the series finds its true charm. Should have stuck to that instead of trying to be something else.

It was cool hearing how the technology tricks they used in these games would go on to inform Uncharted. Thanks, Jason Rubin for the insight!

Jason was an awesome guest. All that camera wizardry was fascinating

Great timing. Just got the plat for Jak and Daxter for the first time yesterday. Superb platformer and one of my family's all time favourites.

this is amazing , how did I miss this!?

One of my all time favorite platformers.

8:43 Omfg that made my childhood, seeing Jak's hair and Daxter always flopping around and stretching when you punched or kicked

I absolutely adore the Jak games, all of them, even Lost Frontier has its moments. I knew the game used narrow spaces to mask loading, but I never realized the camera was doing it too. Really cool stuff. I'd love to see a new Jak game, but I'm pretty sure modern Naughty Dog isn't really the crew to make it. They're a completely different studio now. :C

30:36 Did he not remember that you can look in first person with triangle? 😄

Insane how well this game even Crash 2 and 3 still hold up today, not the remakes but the originals, they still play perfectly fine and the graphics still look charming and appealing, especially Jak & Daxter, just look how gorgeous that game looks still today, I was mindblown by it when it came out, and many other games of that era like Devil May Cry who still hold up so damn fine. This happens when your game is well crafted like these, unfortunately that doesn't happen anymore and they rather release a unfinished game to patch it later.

@ci7210

8 ай бұрын

Having a cartoony artstyle alwasy ages better than trying to be photo realistic at that time period.

I completely agree with what they said at the end. Bring back Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank and Sly Cooper!!!

@CalebMcFarland

7 жыл бұрын

Ratchet and Clank and Sly Cooper didn't go away. Sly Cooper had a game a year ago I think, and Ratchet and Clank just had a new game and a movie.

@NATE-op9tq

7 жыл бұрын

There's also that cancelled Sly Movie.

All hail Jason Rubin

It's incredibly validating to see one of Jak's designers also get stuck on the tutorial level - that place is a maze!

oh come of it! Baron Praxis was a brilliant bad guy! I don't care much for Erol but Baron Praxis was brilliant, same goes for Krew who sadly wasn't around for long, I won't spoil how he dies but surprisingly it isn't food related

Great great episode as always! I love this series. Jason Rubin seems like a really great guy.

A new Jak and Daxter on PS4? Yes please!

@Energizer720

6 жыл бұрын

HotScorcher yes!!! YEZSSSZZZ YESSSSSSSZ. Like. Ratchet & Clank took the wrong direction. I hope to see this one more successful to catch ted's eye

Keeps this show going guys, hearing how these games are made, the backbreaking work and attention to detail is astounding to see :)

Man, I love this series so much. Great job!

I once did play this game a 100% complete, without stopping to play. I can't really remember, but it took about 4 to 6 hours I think. I continually played to get all 101 Energy Cells and all 2000 Orbs

@Rc3651

7 жыл бұрын

I did that about three years ago! I picked it up one day and decided to replay it for the kicks. I was just really nostalgic for Geyser Rock and Sentinel Beach. Four or so hours later I had beat it 100%. I was really surprised, as a kid this game was pretty challenging, and I only ever beat it once (mostly because I liked the early levels so much). I had no anticipation of beating it 100%, especially in such a short amount of time. The world record 100% speedrun is 1hr 38min though, so we have a long way to go, haha

@DrJamesOnjen

7 жыл бұрын

Rc3651 I was in the same situation, I at first didn't even want to play it til 100% and it just happened :P (I assume this World Record is with glitches and stuff right? I wonder what the record would be without using skipping bugs. When just straight forward try to beat the game normally, you then play just in a hurry I mean. And will probably have to start over when you missed something important)

@Rc3651

7 жыл бұрын

DoctorOnjen No, it was in the 100% category, so it was a straight run-through collecting every item. They must have a really optimized route planned out! The Any% category, which allows skips, brings it down to 24m46s. The Any% No Major Skips category is at 1hr03m, so apparently getting every collectible doesn't take that much longer than just beating the game, haha

@DrJamesOnjen

7 жыл бұрын

Rc3651 Wow, I just knew where everything was and collected stuff. I don't really know, but cutsenes couldn't be skipped right? (or most of them) so if they could, the time would be even better

Here i am, again, speechless trying to thank you enough Double Fine! Tim does a great job at interviewing, all the episodes he did were awesome, and the ones where somebody else played the game were even better and more fluid! I know you guys need to see more support for the series mainly cause it may not be getting the view traction needed now, but be assured that this is invaluable knowledge and industry insight otherwise lost and time will tell. (pfeeww, that was the stretch of my non native english lol). Thanks for that guys!!

...I always liked Gol and Maia and wanted to see them again. ;_; Especially after the teasing line by Samos at the end of the game.

I hope Andy Gavin does this one day or a reaction to a speedrun❤ you’re awesome Jason Rubin

Jason Rubin one of the founders of naughty dog has made a KZread appearance. Critiquing some of his final work at naughty dog giving the fans an insight to the development of the Jak & Dexter he created with Andy Gavin & crew. Could this be an indication of things to come.............(I HOPE SO)

I remember the Gameinformer cover that had Ratchet and Jak comically fighting for space. That was awesome for a kid to see.

Love this episode

So far my favourite series of Devs Plays. Please tell me you'll have Shiggy and/or the Rareware guys on at some point too.

those were the good ol days....back in 2001 as a teenager playing jak, ratchet and sly. felt like the games tried one upping each other

"This was during the production of Psychonauts" do'oh boy, psychonauts 2 is still gonna be a bit of a wait huh

@michaelchikos7376

8 жыл бұрын

Johnny Torpedo Oh dope, that's not long at all. I'd be fine waiting till 2019. As long as it's within this decade.

@alistair2111

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelchikos7376 [sweating]

@iopklmification

3 жыл бұрын

@@alistair2111 it's getting close guys

My favourite saga of all time!

Give this man a job in a game, Double Fine.

this game was my childhood!

It's cool how he enjoys playing his own game.

One of my favorite 3D platformers to this day. Very fluid controls, lots of colorful areas and environments, tons of diverse platforming gameplay. I wish they had continued in this style instead of trying to keep up with the current market and model Jak 2 after GTA 3.

was this the last episode of the second season? can't wait for more!

For me it's the insightful let's plays that are most interesting. This series I totally learn a lot about the development of the game which is what draws me to it. If it's a game I'm really interested in watching someone else play it would be something I might do later, but I'd absolutely want to play it for myself first and foremost so I could compare how they played it or their opinions of the game. It's also fun to watch really awful games in let's plays so you don't have to make the investment. Although I do know a lot of people who just watch streams and let's plays and never actually play games themselves. That's just baffling to me.

I loved this series. They did 3D-platforming better than anyone (prior to Super Mario Galaxy at least). It's so weird that so little has changed in this genre that it is still possible to enjoy these older games. Maybe they just got everything right the first time around, but I'd like to think that there is more to be done in this genre.

Somehow I hope that Naughty Dog return to do a new cartoony platform game. Not a Jak and Daxter 4. But something completely new.

Are there going to be more of these? I'd love to see one for Sly, and maybe Infamous.

I really want to see Jason play Jak 2. Especially to see how good he is at the race with Errol (not the one in the stadium). It took me like a month to beat it.

Tim is right: with the HD collection I couldn't handle the wonky camera controls to replay the Jak and Daxter games. (maybe I just needed to unlearn some stuff).

How many people saw the name Rubin and thought it was Joel?

One of my favorite platformers, I love everything about this one but hate the GTA vibe in the other Jak games.

the most legendary game

I got this game a little while after I got the PS2 (I think it was Christmas '02) and I spent weeks playing this game not knowing what to do and just walking around the island killing enemies and breaking boxes. The only platform games I had played before this were the crash bandicoot games on ps1 which were straightforward you complete a stage and move on. This whole open world concept was I guess to much for me as a 7 year old lol. I remember going over my dads house and he had the game and would be way farther in the game then I ever got and I'd just be like how did you get here? Despite owning the game and not completing it I have fond childhood memories of it ironically.

the first is the best.

I wish i have knew this game when i had a PS2

I love how Rubin is a nice friendly dude (at least on camera). I also thought game development was a very competitive thing, now I know the competition is left to the publishers. My hate for EA grows with my knoledge of game development. You guys, you are the unsung heroes of the gaming industry: developers that really want to make a good product and have to endure business nonsesnse.

Fun Fact: The guy who designed Jak and Daxter also directed Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric!

I wish he'd had talked about the LISP inspired language his friend Andy Gavin created for the game.

Wow, I had to subscribe the moment I realized Jason Rubin was doing something like this in modern times. Interesting bit about the "kicking Daxter" mechanic being a thing and then scrapped. Didn't fucking know that. I love my father and all, but I wish Jason Rubin was also my father. To have a father who made my favorite video game series would be like, heaven? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS JASON RUBIN. Jak and Daxter (Jak) is my favorite video game series, while the 3rd game installment, Jak 3, is my favorite. The first game appears to get the most love in the series, but im one of the fans who prefers Jak 3 over the rest. It's not just my favorite game in the trilogy (and of all time), I also only believe its the best in the trilogy. And Jak is also my favorite character of all time. This was incredibly, unbelievable enjoyable to watch and I had a lot of fun and smiled nearly throughout the whole video. I also learned quite several more things. Jak II and Jak 3 especially are going to be even better though. I look forward to hearing about some of the technical programming with Jak II and then possibly some light on the relation with Mar and Jak in Jak 3 ;). The commentary in Jak 3 wasn't enough for me xD.

@IronCurtaiNYC

8 жыл бұрын

+Aura Guardian I had a pretty cool father when he was alive (He made guitar effects pedals for electro-harmonix, which included Kurt Cobain's favorite effects pedal).

Naughty Dog should do more this kinda games :D pls do it

Another jak and daxter game NEEDS to be made. It can be so much better now too with the newer hardware. But it has to be like this game, maybe not so much 2 or 3 because they aren't really hardcore action platformers like the first game. Plus, there's now a brand new generation of 3D platformers coming like Yooka Laylee (but maybe something a little bit more polished xD)

One of the developers of spacewar is Wayne Wiitanen, not Wiltanen

Didn't Insomniac invent Level Of Detail? They weren't afraid to show the player a bit of loading here and there. In Spyro and Ratchet games you could see textures loading if one is attentive enough.

Here's a challenge: Get Sam and/or Dan Houser there to talk about their history.

Since Jason is a big-wig over at Oculus now, is he going to hook Tim up with his own CV1 so he can play *Lucky's Tale*? That could make for a good Devs Play episode, actually. Tim playing the game while a developer talks to him, other members of the Double Fine staff sneaking in to make faces at Tim while he's blindfolded, maybe even recreate the infamous circle-of-asses photo..

Curious to know if anyone knows if jak actually has bones. I remember hearing that Crash does not.

Not only should we have a Psychonauts 2 and Jak & Daxter 4, we should also have remakes of the first games! Remakes don't work in the movie industry ( none that I can think of anyway ) but work brilliantly in games --- I don't understand why there aren't more!

@IronCurtaiNYC

8 жыл бұрын

+Lee McDaid - Guitar Though we're unlikely to have a Jak 4, we're definitely having a Psychonauts 2! www.fig.co/campaigns/psychonauts-2

26:40 whats he talking about with the animation?

woot

First??!!!??? I enjoy these videos. Thanks for posting them.

Naughty Dog needs to give Jak and Daxter to Insomniac

Oh no what will I watch next?

@ebtrax4081

8 жыл бұрын

devs play ratchet and clank is also great

What controller is he using ? Doens't look like a dualshock 2

@gran_turismo_fan

7 ай бұрын

I think this was played on a PS3. So I would say, it was played on a Dual Shock 3.

I'm not sure how I feel on his thoughts on Jak's character design. Like sure, he's a bit more interesting of a character in Jak 2 and 3, definitely closer to Daxter's level, but Jak's design in the first game is at least serviceable, very much memorable and far better at immersion than Jak 2 and 3. Plus, if nothing else, he's way more expressive than nearly any mute character I've ever seen in a video game. In fact, mute characters can work really well. Link is mute and he's still a very interesting character, probably the most interesting in either Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess. I think the problem is that Jak could actually be even more interesting without Daxter which does sound like sacrilege but the thing is that Jak can't really be more expressive than he is when Daxter is taking up most of the screen time. Admittedly removing Daxter would make interactions with other characters very difficult, but I feel like Naughty Dog was somewhat capable of it because I feel like Jak's dynamic with Daxter is actually the best in the first game. He did interact better with other characters in Jak 2 and 3, but again, Daxter is taking up most of the interactions in the first game not giving Jak much of a chance to interact with other characters. Jak 2 and 3 kind of has the opposite problem where he interacts well with other characters but not really all that much with his main side-kick. While there definitely could be some kind of improvement to his character design in the first game, I really don't think anything he did when designing him was really something I would consider a mistake. Plus, while Daxter may be a tiny bit of a hindrance to Jak, I don't think I would really consider him a mistake either. I think he was a perfectly reasonable solution to the mute character problem, it just wasn't executed all that well.

I mean a game developer WOULD complain about people watching let's plays because they dont get their money then

Jason is a traitor for not demonstrating the debug code

*talks about how they don't understand people watching other people play games* *Is filming themselves play a game for people to watch* lol

This might be nitpicking, but why do you play these games on original hardware when the HD collection is available, pretty much the same game except with an HD filter?

@TheKozzee

7 жыл бұрын

i think they are

@CalebMcFarland

7 жыл бұрын

For nostalgia purposes maybe? They show shots of the systems and they are the classics I believe. I think they want to get the full, original experience. Show the game how it was when they were developing it.

Wanna Sly

Jak 1 is one of my favourite games ever. I'd like to forget Jak 2&3 exist.

@iain2k7

8 жыл бұрын

+Jonny Smith Jak 2 is the best one.

@nothing2069

8 жыл бұрын

JAK 2 was the worst imo

@BiollanteSpawn

8 жыл бұрын

+Jonny Smith Jak 2 & 3 are some of my favorite games ever. Jak 1 was your average collect-a-thon game.

@IxJraI

8 жыл бұрын

+Jonny Smith Why Jak 2,3 were really good? Some kind of hipster comment?

@iain2k7

8 жыл бұрын

IxJraI I prefer Jak 2 and 3 too

Dat Cerny

WoW, 15 million dollars was the budget of this game. This just really paints the picture of how expensive is to develop games in USA. Witcher 3 development costed the same amount of money (in 2015 money it is even less than in 2000/2001) and look at how bigger this game is than Jak&Daxter. I'm not trying to make a point or anything, just thought that it is interesting.

@twilaight

6 жыл бұрын

I am really confused as to where you heard Witcher 3 cost $15 million. A quick google search shows it cost $81 million.

Definitely my least favourite Naughty Dog franchise on PlayStation still awesome though.