In reality, no Japanese troops ever discarded the dust cover, that would be willful destruction of the Emperor's personal property and would be subject to high punishment. Dust covers did not rattle or clank when issued originally to troops

I’m currently reading “With the old Breed” and in the book it mentions the Japanese snipers on Pelieu and Okinawa . How deadly effective they were. They took out a insane amount of U.S officers with these rifles.

A couple of things, monopods were only on Type 99s and early Type 97 sniper rifles, never on Type 38s. Japanese soldiers did not throw away the dust covers or monopods. You can see this from actual period photos. IMHO, the Japanese were removing those parts really late in the war on rifles warehoused in Japan for their scrap metal. You can find minty Type 99s that still have their screws staked, yet all of their parts were removed. And no, dust covers don't rattle unless you operate the bolt and which is louder, the gunshot or a tiny rattle?

@Jansporter2

4 жыл бұрын

Another suggestion as to why Japanese rifles are missing dust covers is that the bolts were removed when being transported stateside and the GIs didn't care to match the bolts and dust covers. I believe that the dust covers were fitted to the rifles at the factory and were number matched. I highly doubt the idea of Japanese soldiers tossing their dust covers, it would be exactly the same as removing the dust cover from an M16.

@jasonlemuel5078

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jansporter2 also keep in mind those rifle have the emperor simble which those rifle are his as id it was inteusted gidted by hin and therefore what if heard normal japanesw soldier must take care of it so if a part was missing intentionaly or not its not preferrebly good

Arisakas were some of the best made bolt actions of all time, stronger action and receiver than the German designs, they were sporterized because there were so many being imported after the war...K98 rifles werent imported nearly as much

Awesome video! I’d love to see more Japanese stuff!

great stuff tom

Thank you!!!

Check out C&Rsenal episode on the type 38 cause you got a couple a things wrong. By the way, a 2 power scope is a designated marksman rifle or D.M.R.. A 4 power scope is a snipers rifle.

Very interesting.I have 2 Arisaka rifles my grandfather brought home from Iwo Jima with the mums intact. Sadly the serial numbers don't match. It's still pretty cool to own them.

These rifles really got around. I had about 40 rounds of 6.5 FMJ made by Kynoch.

It would be cool to see some rare K98 rifle videos too! Great channel!

I have one of the Nagoya T99 "Cutback" rifles that uses the 2.5x scope. It's a matching #6277. Shoots great. Find me the scope Tom.

Early Type 38 and 99 were some of the strongest bolt action rifles of the war and had one big advantage over other nations rifles having a chrome barrel to prevent rusting. The Japanese had tested a bunch of different rifles at the beginning of the early 20th century and decided on adopting the Germans Mauser design but a more simplified version with less parts. As the war progressed and their factories were being bombed they had to switch production to what's called the last ditch rifles getting rid of the the monopod and dust cover but the internal parts were still strong.

Sounds like there could be a market for a scope exchange between collectors, that would be one way of getting matching numbers.

@raylaux8295

Жыл бұрын

I have a Nagoya T99 #6277. Find me my scope, will ya...

@AdamosDad

Жыл бұрын

@@raylaux8295 I have a Nagoya NA 320A, but I don't think it will work on a rifle, but it does make a good antenna for a tri-band ham radio. ??????????? lol

@raylaux8295

Жыл бұрын

@@AdamosDad I've got a few of their antennas for my handheld Baofeng's LOL 73's

@AdamosDad

Жыл бұрын

@@raylaux8295 Hey Ray, I had 4 UV-5R's but gave 2 away trying to get people interested in the hobby. Now a fast run through my shack, 2 UV-5R's for back up, 1 Yaesu FT-65R that I use for 440, a UV-5R III that I keep on our 220 repeater, an iCOM 208h that I keep on our 2M an older Stryker I play with on 10M and a Yaesu FT 991A that I use everywhere else. The Baofeng's are good for what they are if you keep them dry. ✋73's🎙 KD9OAM🎧📻📡

@raylaux8295

Жыл бұрын

@@AdamosDad 2 bands are enough for me now. UV-5R's and UV-50X2 Got into it for EM coms for SHTF and Travel trailer remote locations. Stay safe, next few years will test us all.... 73's KD9GVU

Thanks.

Very cool. Great video. What about the anti aircraft wings on the rear sights. You hardly ever see those either.

I had a type 99 sniper rifle back in the 70's with all matching numbers and the mum. The scope didn't match the rifle but worked fine but I had to hold to the left and use to long range setting to hit with it out to 100 yards much past that was a guess. My rifle had the same scope that is on your type 99 rifle I wish I had kept it. I got it from a vet in our town who brought it home after the war it was made in 1942. I paid $250.00 for it and sold it in about 1978 for $450.00 when you could buy a Type 99 for $35.00.

It really does suck how they handled surrendered firearms in ww2. As they came in, those handling the weapons threw bolts in one pile, rifles in another. They were then gabbed randomly by GI's, and importers. This is why 90% of Arisakas, and k98's, have mismatched bolts.

@allangibson8494

4 жыл бұрын

That was also where the dust covers got lost as they come off with the bolts. Matched dust covers don't rattle.

@thetobaccoguy1751

4 жыл бұрын

@@allangibson8494 Not sure n that 100%. I have seen interviews with Japanese soldiers who said that most of their fellow soldiers ditched them immediately due to the rattle, the added weight, and generally being useless.

@allangibson8494

4 жыл бұрын

@@thetobaccoguy1751 They were military issued equipment. The Japanese army was serious about keeping it intact. The prewar Arisaka's didn't rattle - the dust covers were individually fitted and adjusted (which means they are not interchangeable parts). The late war ones might be different, but as a definite the Japanese troops in the first two years wouldn't have rattling rifles - any more than the M1 carbine would rattle. As an aside, any Arisaka with a defaced chrysanthemum is a post war / surrender capture. Combat captures should all be intact. The 7.5mm Japanese is a derivative of the 0.303 British as well - including the bullet design.

@windogendoors7566

4 жыл бұрын

@@thetobaccoguy1751 I think 99.9% of the time they were left on unless an officer commanded his unit to take them off(for whatever reason). Almost all of the pictures I have seen show rifles with the dust covers on. Japanese officers were very strict and I have read Japanese veteran accounts where soldiers were beaten halfway to death if they saluted wrong or a button was out of place. I doubt they would allow an important piece of the rifle to be missing. The dust cover is definitely not useless by any means and doesn't add significant weight. Check out the mud test done by InRange it shows that perfectly.

@christophermichael.w.7577

3 жыл бұрын

I grew up looking at one every chance I got.A family member sent one home to my grandfather.I was told it was sent home in pieces and reassembled.

Nagoya still makes scopes for the replica T99 Sniper airsoft guns. The rifles are expensive and are said to be spot on in dimensions. Tom look into this.

Just in case anyone cares, Mum is short for Chrysanthemum Seal. I was waiting for it the whole video but you never said it. :-)

@miketanner2150

4 жыл бұрын

It's actually a MON which is the Japanese word for seal or crest. Much in the same sense as a Royal seal. The Toyota and Mitsubishi symbols are also Mons.

Also in the prone position, if a soldier used the monopod, his head and upper torso would be exposed to enemy fire because it was to tall sitting off the ground.

@windogendoors7566

4 жыл бұрын

The monopod was meant to sink into the ground. Most Japanese bipods (and other lmg bipods for the matter) were tall because the bipod was intended to be used in adverse conditions like deep snow or mud which would cause the legs to sink into the ground. If the monopod was too short it would be useless as most of it would sink into the ground.

@vugmeister918

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I never new that. I can see what a pain that would be if shooting at multiple targets over a wide range. Instead of simply moving the muzzle side to side, the shooter would have to move his whole body side to side around the firmly planted pivot point.

Cool video - thanks. I have an Arisaka which my grandfather brought back from Iwo Jima. Monopod and mum - intact. Not sure about the numbers, not even sure where all of them are located to match them.

@bigredc222

4 жыл бұрын

Every part has the serial number on it somewhere, ideally they are all the same number.

The infantry didn't use the carbine, those were used by cavalry. Japanese Arasaka rifles were very well made. Even so called last ditch rifles were only crude on the outside, they were machined and polished were they needed to be. They didn't add any of the features that earlier rifles had, but were just as effective. The 6.5mm round wasn't under powered. The 7.7mm round was developed due to being on the receiving end of the British .303 round. They like most Army's that used 6.5 rounds developed .30, .31 caliber rifles that used a heavier bullet. The type 99 was only made in 7.7 like most of the other people posted Japanese troops DID Not discard any part of their equipment. Scopes were zeroed at the factory. The rifleman could adjust zero with the tool that was issued with the rifles. Scopes were miss matched because when the rifles were surrendered were separated. German sniper rifles have the same issue. Also when Scopes were damaged another was fitted. The mum was growned of signifying that the rifles had no significance anymore and could be surrendered. You really don't know shit about these rifles do you?

The monopod is so they could plant the weight of the firearm firmly into the ground. Keeping it stable and resting your arm. (Fox hole position)

A lot of factual errors in the video. I didn't finish it, but for example saying the Type 38 Carbine was designed for "fighting in the jungles" is just plain wrong. The Japanese were fighting in no jungle when the Type 38 Carbine was designed. It was designed as an artillery and cavarlymen's carbine, just like carbine variants were adopted for cavalry and artillery troops in Western militaries. It was a rifle for non-frontline or cavalry troops, who wouldn't need or want full-length service rifles.

This video just doesn't sit right with me. 1) The attitude against Japanese designs/production quality (this seems to be a pattern). 2) The idea that the 6.5 is somehow underpowered for individual riflemen. 3) The idea that Japanese soldiers themselves were mismatching the scopes to the rifles (as opposed to the US collection process). Like why are all of these snipers getting together just to mix up each other's scopes? 4) Japanese doesn't read right-to-left, it's just named 9-9-"type" instead of "type"-9-9. You seem to know a lot more about German small arms, and that content seems a lot more informative as a result.

@patv693

4 жыл бұрын

ever have a crash in a Japanese car......hmmmmmm

@windogendoors7566

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the attitude is common with a lot of older collectors. Only until relatively recently attitudes towards Japanese small arms have become more positive. Legacy Collectibles produces some of the most highest quality videos on German stuff though and I can understand where his misconceptions come from. Rumors have determined much of what people knew about Japanese rifles for decades and only now has the rumors started being debunked.

@naricky8408

4 жыл бұрын

4) Some Japanese firearms actually has Kanji written right-to-left,for example:Grandpa,Papa and Baby Nambu has the Kanji character 式部南 which read Model/Type Nambu from right-to-left.Otherwise,I agree with you.

I had a WWII Japanese N.C.O sword that the scabbard serial number didn't match the sword serial number by about 20 digits, I presume they were mixed up on the production line.

@allangibson8494

4 жыл бұрын

The US military didn't keep parts together on capture. Mismatched parts on hand me down (i.e. stuff traded from one soldier to another) captures are common. That was where the dust covers went missing.

@dustyfarmer

4 жыл бұрын

@@allangibson8494 This N.C.O sword that I had with the non-matching serial number by 20 digits had the same Kokura arsenal marks on both the scabbard throat & sword blade, the chances of that mis-match happening anywhere else but the factory would be slim to none.

@allangibson8494

4 жыл бұрын

@@dustyfarmer NCO swords were issued to units in mass just like rifles. Every NCO in the unit would have had a sword from the same batch. I doubt the sword was attached to the NCO or scabbard at time of capture.

Arisaka rifles are far stronger actions than German Mauser rifles, also more reliable in poor conditions, could function in mud and dirt better, had drainage holes for water, had dust covers, stronger stocks with the two-piece horozontal seam, and wider, cleaner and overall better sights. Arisaka rifles were the best bolt action rifles of both world wars, the definitive trench rifle. 6.5mm cartridge is comparable to 7.62x39...underpowered? Japanese troops were also not seen as "expendable" thats just more 1940s era western propaganda still being recycled. Suicide charges were only used late in the war and only when it would achieve tactical advantages and take key points of a battlefield. Same for Kamakazes, only a last ditch option, and all were volunteers....in real life, the average Japanaese soldier was seen as godly figures in Japan, and commanded respect from the Japanese military, who actually took quite good care of them in the field, providing good resources, supplies and food (as good as jungle supply chains can get)

@dronenoobFL

3 жыл бұрын

7.62x39 used in a sniper rifle seems like a poor choice to me due to its effective range.

the two peice stock is not glued ! the two pieces slide together with joints in the wood and are held together with a rolled pin with screw/bolt running thru it. gunblue490 has a video taking it apart for repair

The ammo box in the end not original for 7.7 tap, the box is actually from us made 7.9 Mauser ammo (8mm Mauser). 美造means made in US, 七九步机尖弹 means 79 spitzer round for rifle and machine gun. 二十發 means 20 rounds.

HI! I've got my Dad's WWII Japanese rifle he brought home . just the regular model. What's it worth ?? Also , I have all sorts of items that I don't know how to identify or what they are worth, Such as "inert shell (20 and 30 mm size , but Japanese also motor rounds , grenade launcher for rifles artillery fuses, etc ! Where can I go to online to find out what this stuff is ?? I also have a Japanese artillery shell casing , all brass that is 19 inches tall and 13 inches diamt, P.S. Could i send you a text message to your store and add some pictures of this stuff I can take with my phone ! Thank you , I love you channel !!!

@thetobaccoguy1751

4 жыл бұрын

Check some of the things Tom mentioned here. Does it have the mum? Just as important, do the serial numbers match? Check the bolt to receiver match first. 80% don't match. If it's all matching, around $600-$700. Mum, monopod, ect add extra value.

@bigredc222

4 жыл бұрын

@@thetobaccoguy1751 I think you're number is high, I have a numbers matching 100% complete model 99, last I checked it was worth about $400, I hope I'm wrong, I hope it's worth what you say.

That box of ammo is from china, it said US made 7.9 "sharp tip" rifle cartridges 20 round , those are NOT 7.7 ammo.

@LegacyCollectibles

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. We got that from others. You are correct of course

WE enjoy your videos... please don't stop... MY wife Bunny wants to know why they removed the Mum emblem?

@thomaswhiteman4261

4 жыл бұрын

Mum was symbol of the Emperor. Like Swastika in Germany . I think it was Mcarthur who ordered them to be obliterated

4 жыл бұрын

the mum was the emperor's symbol of ownership . when the rifle was decommissioned (left service) the mum was defaced. intact mums are generally captured weapons that weren't officially decommissioned.

@johndilday1846

4 жыл бұрын

The Japanese wouldn't allow guns that possessed the mum to be surrendered as it was considered a disgrace, so the mums were ground off at the end of the war after the surrender so as not to disgrace the emperor. The rifles that are found with an intact mum are generally battlefield pick ups, as the soldiers they were issued to had been killed. The mum was the sign of their emperor, whom they worshiped as a god. At least, that is my understanding of the difference.

@thetobaccoguy1751

4 жыл бұрын

@@johndilday1846 This is correct.

it's much more likely the dust covers were discarded when the rifles where taken aboard ships after surrender as the bolt had to be removed. if you look at photos of Japanese troops in combat the dust cover is more often then not present

The story I had heard was...The mum is a symbol of the Emporer Hirohito. Japanese soldiers who surrendered were allowed to grind off the mum because then it was not giving the enemy the Emporer's rifle. Most rifles with an intact mum were taken off of a dead Japanese by a GI on the battle field, so the mum was not ground off.

@LegacyCollectibles

4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying this. I will mention in a future video

This may be a dumb question but does anyone know why I specifically noticed that Japanese snipers in trees tied a rope to their leg so when they were shot they didn’t fall to the ground?

@thomaswhiteman4261

4 жыл бұрын

Good question

@windogendoors7566

4 жыл бұрын

They tied themselves to trees so if they fell off the tree while sleeping they wouldn't fall to the ground and possibly get injured or killed. The practice also caused US servicemen to think that dead Japanese snipers were still alive causing them to waste ammunition shooting at dead bodies but this wasn't the initial intention.

On the type 38 on the left side just ahead of the bolt there is a cut out in the stock. What purpose did this serve? Why was it there? I can find no apparent reason nor have I found anyone that knows why it was put there. I don't think this cut is on the 99's.

The 2.5 scope is more of a DMR type philosophy.

No disrespect intended , but please do not continue to lecture on Japanese military tactics you are completely misinformed

To go with my original comment many mid to late war guns did not have mono pods or dust cover. Also to mention why scopes and bolts and other things were mismatched it's because they would put the guns like in Germany separate from the bolts and I assume that was the same with the scopes. It was a pain in the butt to put back the dust cover on so lot of GI's just threw it out. I don't know why mono pods are as common but I'm guessing a lot of GI's to broken off or remove them for some reason. Also the Japanese didn't care so much on matching some parts so you technically can a correct gun with issued accessories like the bayonet and they mismatched.

What’s Wayne’s contact? I’m in Raleigh too

Since I'm not sure, this may be a "possible" statement. I've seen where a mismatched sniper scope can be re-zeroed because of small screws on the front end or lens. Do not take this as fact, just something I heard.

I'm hunting one, and it's a chore. I want a completely matching 99, with the monopod, cleaning rod, aircraft sights, and mum. And not some ridiculous price of $3,000. I've sifted through probably 300 in the last month.

Your right, you don't know much about these rifles

why did they grind off markings

@thomaswhiteman4261

4 жыл бұрын

it is our way of giving Imperial Japan the finger. The mum was the symbol of the Emperor who they worshipped as a god, US made them grind it off. Not sure who gave the command but it would not surprise me if it was McArthur. It would be like Eisenhower say all guns had to have Nazi symbols ground off.

@thetobaccoguy1751

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomaswhiteman4261 The Japanese considered it a disgrace to the emperor to surrender a weapon with the chrysanthemum. They did it, not the US.

@thomaswhiteman4261

4 жыл бұрын

@@thetobaccoguy1751 interesting. Thanks. That makes sense but i probably need a reference

Noisy dust cover?

@thetobaccoguy1751

4 жыл бұрын

It rattles when the soldier moves.

@LoneWolf051

4 жыл бұрын

@@thetobaccoguy1751 only if the dust cover has been replaced with another rifles dust cover, they were not interchangable, each was custom made for each rifle....a rattling dust cover means a GI swapped it for another one long ago

@thetobaccoguy1751

4 жыл бұрын

​@@LoneWolf051 Japanese soldiers from WW2 have stated they disliked the dust covers for this reason. This is documented in several books. Aside from being a generally stupid piece of equipment. Look through some original frontline pictures of the Arisaka. Not many soldiers had their dust covers. They didn't all lose them accidentally.

The 6.5 round was intended to WOUND, if you kill 1, that's OK, but if you wound a Soldier, his Friends will help him out of line of fire, giving 1, 2 , or 3 of opponents out of combat to retrieve the Wounded, or shot as well, was the Australia Army's view of the use of this weapon, luckily (for us) hiding mainly in Tree's as you said, is NOT a Good plan ..

@allangibson8494

4 жыл бұрын

The 303 bullet was designed to do the same. It was deliberately base heavy with an aluminium piece in the bullet tip to promote tumbling.

@windogendoors7566

4 жыл бұрын

It wasn't intended to wound. In fact upon discovering this in the Russo-Japanese War they attempted to switch to a cartridge that had more stopping power but this got kicked down the line until much much later due to budget issues in Japan.

@bigredc222

4 жыл бұрын

They used to say that was the reason the U.S. went from .30 caliper to the .223, I used to tell people that, I've since found out, the main benefit of a smaller round is you can carry more of it for the same weight.

@James_T_Quirk

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigredc222 Well I must admit my opinion is shaped by my fathers views/experiences in New Guinea during WW2, and Australian Army Historical Analysis, but There is a lot of truth to your view as well, also just wondering if .223/5.56 is more high powered than WW2 Munitions, and it's ballistic profile allow non "tumbling" rounds to hit, "Cleanly", which I seem to remember was done, to reduce tissue damage, ie: a clean entry wound instead of a removing a Limb, but I could be wrong..Also I have fired a .303, sometimes difficult to put multiple rounds on a moving target, but with a semi-auto modern rifle, you can put several rounds on target, as fast as you can pull a trigger, so more rounds is good..

@bigredc222

4 жыл бұрын

@@James_T_Quirk I got a lot of knowledge from TV, so it sounds like you're more informed than me. My father was in Australia, and the Philippians, but he talked very little about it.

Hello. A technical point you may wish to know about. Look up the photographic term,18% grey. Using a white sheet as a background works for the human eye but not a camera lens. Much better image with a grey sheet or judicious use of Rit dye on your own. Cheers.

Mum's the word. LOL!

With all the Japanese snipers killed in action how less than 10 matching rifles today. Maybe most of them were napalmed.

@rogainegaming6924

4 жыл бұрын

From what I know the American doctrine was to strip the rifles and throw them into piles. One pile for the rifles, another for the bolts, and POSSIBLY another for the scopes.

When I was a young teenager in Detroit, about 1959, I would see 50 gal. barrels filled with these rifles (and Lee Enfields) selling for less than $20!

38s had monopods? Thought it was just the 99s.

@arisukak

4 жыл бұрын

It was just the Type 99s and the early Type 97 snipers.

@gadsdenguy4880

4 жыл бұрын

@@arisukak never knew that. The more you know.

this video really falls short in the factual catagory...sad

Kamikaze pilots flew everything from trainer to bombers to the latest fighters. The only Japanese single use aircraft was the Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka "Cherry Blossom", commonly and derisively known by sailors as the Baka ("Fool"). It was a rocket powered flying bomb that was really too fast (620 mph in a dive) to be very accurate, and only 74 ever flew an operational mission. Of those, 56 were destroyed, either because the mother ship that carried one was shot down or they were hit by AA fire. Only 18 made any kind of hit, most being near misses. /since the MXY7 carried an 1800 pound warhead, even a near miss would cause damage, and sometimes cause a sinking. Several destroyers and other minor vessels were sunk, but no capital ship was ever hit, and the overall effect considering the massive amount of effort put into the program, was negligible.

@thomaswhiteman4261

4 жыл бұрын

Good information. Thanks

@sarjim4381

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomaswhiteman4261 You're welcome. Some people have the idea the Japanese made a bunch of bamboo biplanes to use for kamikaze attacks and that's just not true. They used everything in their inventory with minimally trained pilots, but the Ohka was considered a specialized weapon only few more competent pilots could fly.

some really neat examples and footage cutting but man that history is really off.

STG44 or don't bovver me !!!!!

1904 ~ 1905 russo(Russia)-japanese war

Funny some parts of video are from Vietnam war.

First

It's Mon, not mum.

@zeppelin5000

4 жыл бұрын

noth606 It’s mum, as in Chrysanthemum.

@thetobaccoguy1751

4 жыл бұрын

Don't say things that you don't know. That's how stupidity spreads.

Lol who told you the japanese read backwards? arabs read backwards. The japnese may read vertically in some cases.

about 50% the content are false statements, this video makes my brain hurts...

So much misinformation lol