Destiny 2 Lore - What Osiris was experiencing as he was possessed by Savathun...

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Destiny 2's Lore tells us about how Osiris was possessed by Savathun. In the story and lore of the Season of the Lost we learned that Osiris was partly conscious as he was being controlled by the Witch Queen.
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  • @spire1123
    @spire11232 жыл бұрын

    Savathun: "oh, Guardian mine" Nope, nope, shut up, nope

  • @FireStorm5713

    @FireStorm5713

    2 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly

  • @VykeVaporwaveOutlaw

    @VykeVaporwaveOutlaw

    2 жыл бұрын

    "O Guardian mine...." Ohno

  • @Bone-Owner

    @Bone-Owner

    2 жыл бұрын

    Damn she really caught me with that one, ya know maybe savathun isnt really that bad…

  • @Flamme-Sanabi

    @Flamme-Sanabi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Guardians who don't even know the lore: "Yes mommy Savathun."

  • @joshuavidrine889

    @joshuavidrine889

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Flamme-Sanabi Me, who knows the lore: "YES please."

  • @faerieflower2487
    @faerieflower24872 жыл бұрын

    Another sad thing is Crow never met the REAL Osiris, so when he comes back, it’ll be like they never knew each other.

  • @AW-mm7wi

    @AW-mm7wi

    2 жыл бұрын

    osiris saw all that sav was doing so osiris will know

  • @consumerjtc5835

    @consumerjtc5835

    2 жыл бұрын

    Osiris definitely knows about Crow.

  • @immoralboi3158

    @immoralboi3158

    2 жыл бұрын

    Implying Osiris is gonna come back alive lmao

  • @samuelsalvatore4511

    @samuelsalvatore4511

    2 жыл бұрын

    the lore tab indicates that osiris has vague recolections of what happened, perhaps he remember more than what the lore indicates

  • @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AW-mm7wi well not really. He caught snippets. He knows Crow for a few seconds at a time. But he wouldnt feel the same way about him, itd be like someone you barely know.

  • @funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong
    @funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, remember that time Saint got trapped in the Vex Network and fought them for like, a century straight and killed so many of them they were able to custom-design a Vex Mind capable of draining his light, and he STILL broke that fucker open like a Terry's chocolate orange before succumbing to his wounds? ...I wonder what he could do to a Hive Goddess in his prime?

  • @ExtrnalSorce2

    @ExtrnalSorce2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Considering Guardians don’t really age, wouldn’t he still be on his prime? Especially when we got him out during that fighting?

  • @noahhoan

    @noahhoan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ExtrnalSorce2 mentally, guardians age, so it took a toll on him.

  • @ExtrnalSorce2

    @ExtrnalSorce2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noahhoan true, and since he’s an exo who knows what number he was when he started?

  • @Techhunter_Talon

    @Techhunter_Talon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ExtrnalSorce2 He was Saint-14 before he entered the Infinite Forest to go after Osiris. He was still Saint-14 even when he crusaded against the Eliksni.

  • @peteraustin9057

    @peteraustin9057

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Techhunter_Talon yeah I don't think exo guardians need reboots, but ressurecting as a guardian counts as a reboot. Like, Saint was probably Saint-13 before his ghost found him

  • @SSIKBuLLeT
    @SSIKBuLLeT2 жыл бұрын

    "We are bargaining with a being who has made genocide her calling card." *Guardian coughs*

  • @josh___something

    @josh___something

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ehh, the hive as a whole has caused genocides that are magnitudes above whatever we've done (including, but not limited to the 9 billion strike bosses we've killed to get a crappy roll on an okay gun)

  • @zeraphphalanx2794

    @zeraphphalanx2794

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good times.

  • @brattysubenthusiast

    @brattysubenthusiast

    2 жыл бұрын

    maybe if my guns stopped rolling grave robber I wouldnt be digging graves to begin with.

  • @Wrld_of_Shy

    @Wrld_of_Shy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brattysubenthusiast that is by far the funniest comment I've seen on here bruh😂😂

  • @loolya3

    @loolya3

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Excuse me!? ONE FUCKING GUARDIAN.....

  • @Wulfspyder
    @Wulfspyder2 жыл бұрын

    Before reading Wolftone: Ok Savathun, it's all kinda messed up but you do make good points. After reading Wolftone: I'mma make a gun out of your bones.

  • @AW-mm7wi

    @AW-mm7wi

    2 жыл бұрын

    i am gona use a vex mind to delete her out of existence she doesn’t even deserve the gun treatment

  • @LIONPRINCE2001

    @LIONPRINCE2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    All titans get ready to yeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @goldenguardian8753

    @goldenguardian8753

    2 жыл бұрын

    …….hold on I’ll call Eris, we are turning her into a gun when her corpse is still warm

  • @vancarson440

    @vancarson440

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imma delete her using TRUTH.

  • @LIONPRINCE2001

    @LIONPRINCE2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vancarson440 wait til gjallarhorn is available

  • @coreyevans5734
    @coreyevans57342 жыл бұрын

    For me it was confirmed that was savathun when he did that hand motion when referring to crow. We've known the dude for several years, he has never moved his arms that much.

  • @Azrael_Equinox

    @Azrael_Equinox

    2 жыл бұрын

    *_Y-poses in season of the Dawn_*

  • @fuckeadito

    @fuckeadito

    2 жыл бұрын

    tell me you never played season of the dawn without telling me 😂 but srsly dude osiris has always been real expressive with his hands gestures, the problem with this one was that it was so over the top hahaha ha like extra camp

  • @coreyevans5734

    @coreyevans5734

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah he did. Still the closest the dude has been to going full on jazz hands

  • @marcotibayanmalone7158

    @marcotibayanmalone7158

    2 жыл бұрын

    For me it was how his eyes moved. They've rarely ever been that wide. They're usually narrow/pinpoint focused like he's staring at the sun. The wide eyes with malicious glee was unnerving and veeeery out of character

  • @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    2 жыл бұрын

    No one has

  • @ceasze5072
    @ceasze50722 жыл бұрын

    Savathun: “I am the literal god of decepti-“ Drifter: “Not around here, sister.”

  • @SympatheticArsenal

    @SympatheticArsenal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Transmat firing!

  • @xgel

    @xgel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ooooo savathun on the field

  • @perihelion7798

    @perihelion7798

    2 жыл бұрын

    Apparently, those folks haven't met any real politicians. Politicians are the acme and pentacle of lies and deception.

  • @napoleon7226

    @napoleon7226

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xgel Hive God, bring a sword

  • @CultistKingQ

    @CultistKingQ

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@perihelion7798 Lakshmi 2

  • @PREGAMEDISCHARGEENJOYER
    @PREGAMEDISCHARGEENJOYER2 жыл бұрын

    “My hobbies include gaslighting people until they like, you know go absolutely insane and become self conscious”-Savathuns Tinder profile

  • @RohanSpartin

    @RohanSpartin

    2 жыл бұрын

    And selling her bath water for 5,000 glimmer.

  • @AnAngryMarauder

    @AnAngryMarauder

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RohanSpartin id buy

  • @HugoOfAstora
    @HugoOfAstora2 жыл бұрын

    Our only hope is for Drifter to pull his biggest scam yet on Savathun

  • @joshuavidrine889

    @joshuavidrine889

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Alright, alright, alright... Let's see what we've got... SAVATHUN! Bring a lie-detector test. Did I ever tell you about that time I managed to lie, cheat, and steal all the way up through a Hive line of royalty til I had dinner with that witch? She's got good table manners, but the rest of the date was even better. TRANSMAT FIRING!"

  • @jonpapi_2247

    @jonpapi_2247

    2 жыл бұрын

    I still wanna know when will the choice we made in the Season of the drifter do anything to the story

  • @outbreakperfected5704

    @outbreakperfected5704

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuavidrine889 honestly that’s something I could actually see him doing

  • @justagamer2566

    @justagamer2566

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuavidrine889 I could here his voice saying those words and I am dying

  • @archmagetyler

    @archmagetyler

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuavidrine889 I just wanna hear him actually say this!

  • @artemiss4432
    @artemiss44322 жыл бұрын

    Savathun is the embodiment of Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss.

  • @josh___something

    @josh___something

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hate how accurate this is.

  • @PineappleKiller16

    @PineappleKiller16

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh my god ur right

  • @woodsavenue

    @woodsavenue

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @artemiss4432

    @artemiss4432

    2 жыл бұрын

    Her daily routine is just ✨Gaslight the Guardians, Gatekeep the Pyramids, Girlboss your way to Light powers✨

  • @woodsavenue

    @woodsavenue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@artemiss4432 KSKSKSKSKSKSKS STOP PLS bc its so accurate !!

  • @zenkomenhi
    @zenkomenhi2 жыл бұрын

    That lore tab of Saint trying to reconnect with Osiris was so gut-wrenching.

  • @BREAKocean

    @BREAKocean

    2 жыл бұрын

    what happened?

  • @zenkomenhi

    @zenkomenhi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BREAKocean It's in the video

  • @viewtifulcarl6717

    @viewtifulcarl6717

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr

  • @LastOptionPils
    @LastOptionPils2 жыл бұрын

    Damn in that one moment where Savathun revealed herself, all of that doubt, sorrow and hurt Saint must have been feeling for months changed to horror and rage.

  • @codymcginley6823

    @codymcginley6823

    2 жыл бұрын

    His immediate thought: First, I go tell Zavalla that anything Osiris did these past few months wasn't his doing, THEN I'm going to headbutt that crystal open till you give me my husband back

  • @JuanSolos
    @JuanSolos2 жыл бұрын

    so given Savathun has been Osiris this whole time, and all eyes were on the Eliksni quarters when the gate was opened. Has anyone checked on the Crown of Sorrows? A Vex invasion is pretty good cover to swipe, replace, or mess with it without anyone noticing.

  • @Spiderman-bf3qq

    @Spiderman-bf3qq

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very true

  • @BrandonKleeman

    @BrandonKleeman

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would hope so, but as we know all the leaders are always chilling at their vendor locations and guardians have the attention span of a fly so I doubt it

  • @JuanSolos

    @JuanSolos

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BrandonKleeman true lol everyone is going to surprise pikachu if it turns out to be missing

  • @DTK625

    @DTK625

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the Crown actually has anything to do with Witch Queen. I think Savathûn just didn't want it destroyed.

  • @Hoodagames

    @Hoodagames

    2 жыл бұрын

    His last video i memtioned the crown and how i might be used with the ghost

  • @Blindluck92
    @Blindluck922 жыл бұрын

    "Oh Guardian mine" *(has been actively wishing for Ahamkara to leave me alone since D1)*

  • @torunsmok5890

    @torunsmok5890

    2 жыл бұрын

    See that's your mistake... You're WISHING it :P

  • @Blindluck92

    @Blindluck92

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@torunsmok5890 That was my first thought when I realized how they really worked. But then I thought, 'Wait... what happens now that I've literally spent years wishing for them to stop bothering me? Did I accidentally wish a contrarian response into existence for all things Hive?" 😅

  • @sriramramesh5318

    @sriramramesh5318

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Blindluck92 so what I'm hearing is YOU'RE the reason we're fighting Savathun????

  • @Blindluck92

    @Blindluck92

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sriramramesh5318 Shhhhh

  • @arsenalxa4421

    @arsenalxa4421

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Blindluck92 Aight, we're gonna put the boots to you, medium style.

  • @The5lacker
    @The5lacker2 жыл бұрын

    I love how weirdly... casual, and theatric Savathun is. The hand waggle, the etcetera etcetera, she's just so... confident. Certain. She's planned on presenting herself as an ally for a while, and it's amazing that for some reason *she thinks it will work.*

  • @zur0ra418

    @zur0ra418

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably because she thinks it already has, She however is the fool in this predicament. Do we even need to note how she is the reason Cayde-6 is dead and the fact our guardian literally killed a (basically) near innocent man who was manipulated out of anger, She's taking a big risk with appearing infront of our guardian in the very city we went on a vengeance hunt in.

  • @zur0ra418

    @zur0ra418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@droneant7602 She clearly doesn't if we know she got Cayde killed, It's a strange thing to have your own thoughts and a character you play as clash against eachother.

  • @zur0ra418

    @zur0ra418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@droneant7602 I get the feeling your applying us to Our guardian AND every other character, Our Guardian has quite literally no reason to trust her whatsoever, But during the other seasons with Savu-Siris we saw she had been using crow to gather dead ghosts for a very obvious purpose, There is literally no way she can trick our guardian cause WE are our guardian, And we know she's tricking us, So.

  • @wazer2235

    @wazer2235

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think she actually believes we're fooled. She obviously has other cards she hasn't played yet. This os just her bluff

  • @ceasze5072
    @ceasze50722 жыл бұрын

    “I have been Osiris for as long as you have known him.” Crow: fuck Saint: FUCK

  • @InfernaFiresword

    @InfernaFiresword

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah, not quite. She was addressing /Crow/ in that statement, and the possession happened right after Sagira’s death at the start of Season of the Hunt, as shown in the ‘who is Savathun?’ cutscene. Saint’s known the real Osiris for far longer than she’s been possessing him.

  • @julianrios5279

    @julianrios5279

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@InfernaFiresword but she made saint think that Osiris didn’t love him anymore which is just as bad

  • @Blackhart-7
    @Blackhart-72 жыл бұрын

    That "I'll hold you to it" sent shivers through my spine istg... even if we get Osiris back just how miserable will he be? I'm worried about him, and that's not even considering if we'll get him back... alive.. Also, some people have been disliking the fact that Savathun doesn't sound like an alien race and although i can understand that, i personally think that the Queen of Deception should have a smooth, nearly calming voice that would fit her manipulative personality

  • @joshuavidrine889

    @joshuavidrine889

    2 жыл бұрын

    Her smooth, calming voice has got me acting up. Something so scarily silky and seductive is more dangerous than any plot she's concocted to destroy us.

  • @Blackhart-7

    @Blackhart-7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuavidrine889 IKR?!

  • @Subsistence69

    @Subsistence69

    2 жыл бұрын

    Her voice is absolutely perfect, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. It plays into the character so damn well. I haven’t seen anyone complain yet so I’m glad they’re the minority

  • @Blackhart-7

    @Blackhart-7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Subsistence69 Yeah, i've seen a number of people both on reddit and on youtube but i'm glad it's not more widespread

  • @eliaspanayi3465

    @eliaspanayi3465

    2 жыл бұрын

    I actually really like savathun, her design and voice are good, and I like how she is actually making me think did she actually help us out a few times? Admittedly she prioritised her own goals and helping us was mainly a means to an end, but if our goals aligned she would be a very powerful ally

  • @MarkusRomtaah3061
    @MarkusRomtaah30612 жыл бұрын

    Once we get Osiris back I just want him to go bananas on everyone, screaming and yelling, pointing fingers and telling us how dumb we are in his way ofcourse

  • @heraldofoblivion499

    @heraldofoblivion499

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope we get to kill Mara. She's literally the worst person ever. Some stupid princess that couldn't even keep Skolas from turning her Fallen against her thinks she can fight Savathuun? Or how about the time she suicided her fleet into Oryx, knowing they would die just so she could get his throne world (she failed btw). Or how she abandoned the Dreaming City for a year and did nothing when the pyramids showed up. Or how she worked with Savathuun, knowing that she killed hundreds of Awoken and was responsible for Uldren's death. Mara has to go. She's too incompetent and arrogant.

  • @waifuwaffles7697

    @waifuwaffles7697

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@heraldofoblivion499 ok bub see how well shit goes without her commanding the awoken cause I can almost guarantee anyone who takes over will be worse and also if we kill her then we also have to kill petra cause she is Queens wrath and will kill us in return so sure lets just start basically a war with the awoken when we need all the allies we can get

  • @TheKusa5

    @TheKusa5

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@heraldofoblivion499 Thats probably the worst possible thing we can do, against the pyramids? if we kill the awoken's queen? there goes all the support we get from the awoken, might even turn them against us as well.

  • @heraldofoblivion499

    @heraldofoblivion499

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKusa5 Mara isn't above doing shady shit and getting millions killed for her own ends. She's not a nice person, and makes more problems than she solves @Waifu Waffles Dude. Mara hasn't done anything for the awoken since Taken King. Petra had been running the reef for years by the time Forsaken rolled around. Those are not the only 2 candidates for the thrones either. Crow could take over, and from what we see of him he's mellowed out a lot since he died. The best case scenario is that we kill Mara and Petra keeps doing her job per usual. Or we kill Petra and Mara, but then Crow just takes command and go from there.

  • @LubricatedAfro1

    @LubricatedAfro1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@heraldofoblivion499 ok dude we get it you hate women.

  • @ginghinaandrei5013
    @ginghinaandrei50132 жыл бұрын

    Savy: "If you believe anything I tell you, believe this." Me: No, I don't think I will.

  • @nicomoreno5028

    @nicomoreno5028

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol Savy

  • @MyCupOfTea101
    @MyCupOfTea1012 жыл бұрын

    The iron banner armor this seasons brings up more of Lord Saladin's thoughts the past two seasons. Also one of the armor lore tabs indicates that Saladin knows the tune of Savathun like the rest of the city and Crow, but refuses to hum or sing it.

  • @RohanSpartin

    @RohanSpartin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Saladin is too old for her shit.

  • @ventgoblin330

    @ventgoblin330

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unless its its siva saladman doesn't care

  • @tkfromthe90s
    @tkfromthe90s2 жыл бұрын

    ...welp. That settles it. Wolftone Draw is the most heart-rending lore tab of the year, bar none, everything else can go home, that's it, we're done.

  • @RUSHYRUSHY39

    @RUSHYRUSHY39

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the one where Shaxx and Mithrax have that manly heart to heart is still such a good read, though. Then you have the multiple lore tabs about the eliksni who went to eat ramen that ended… horrifically. There’s a few other ones is all I’m sayin! But yeah, this one also hurts.

  • @danieldragotti2608

    @danieldragotti2608

    2 жыл бұрын

    For now....

  • @IamWalkingDead1

    @IamWalkingDead1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I dunno. The eliksni lullaby still hits hard.

  • @kingstrawberry4429

    @kingstrawberry4429

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, this has to be one of the worst experiences one can have in the destiny universe. I would rather be erased from time

  • @Memnoch427

    @Memnoch427

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget about the Brass Attacks side arm lore where Banshee forgot it was a present from him to Cayde Edit: (“B-44.4.C-6”)

  • @authorofone
    @authorofone2 жыл бұрын

    When Savathun is properly revealed, it’s gonna be a relay race between Ikora, Saint and us to tear her into shreds

  • @thekhoifish0146

    @thekhoifish0146

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m betting the 10 Glimmer that Ghost won from Cayde that Saint’s gonna win

  • @inktoxicant

    @inktoxicant

    2 жыл бұрын

    Read the loretab for Forge's Pledge, the new Iron Banner pulse rifle. Saladin will be a part of that race, no doubt.

  • @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dont forget Eris, Xivu arath, Mara, Caitl, Reed 7, and some more people

  • @UltraRisen

    @UltraRisen

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m gonna win. I WILL win.

  • @edwinrosario3849

    @edwinrosario3849

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's if its any of us that actually going to be the ones to deal the killing blow that ends her. Given how much she pissed off the Darkness, I wouldn't be surprised if it sends one of the pyramid ships to just erase the Dreaming City to get her.

  • @v4valentin
    @v4valentin2 жыл бұрын

    Considering how many Guardians are thirsting over "Mommy Savathun," her plan seems to be working. You know people are going to be upset, or still side with her when it turns out she's evil.

  • @Saint.3.3.3

    @Saint.3.3.3

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve sided with her since I first learned of the books of sorrow, and shall continue to do so

  • @RohanSpartin

    @RohanSpartin

    2 жыл бұрын

    The weak pick only one side.

  • @adoboflakes8473

    @adoboflakes8473

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well some people will still side with evil because you gotta admit, the villains can be cool af.

  • @Ponch126

    @Ponch126

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro she’s still got that Savathussy. *And we kept the body*

  • @LeggoMyGekko

    @LeggoMyGekko

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ponch126 STOP 💀

  • @TripleMoonPanda
    @TripleMoonPanda2 жыл бұрын

    The Saint 14 and Osiris story line has turned into such an amazing and tragic romance story. Back when curse of osiris launched I had no idea that these 2 characters would be this fleshed out with so much character development. I hope the Saint eventually does gets his Phoenix back

  • @seraphjohanson3402
    @seraphjohanson34022 жыл бұрын

    I have this horrible feeling that we won’t get Osiris back alive. Poor, poor Saint 😭 *Don’t you do this to us, Bungie…*

  • @firey0748

    @firey0748

    2 жыл бұрын

    What if it not Osiris we lose? What if by the time we get Osiris it’s saint that we lose in efforts to regain the warlock?

  • @purevessel6026

    @purevessel6026

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@firey0748 NOOOO NO NO NO NO JUST NOOOOOOO

  • @eu.stacio

    @eu.stacio

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@firey0748 don't you dare pull that star crossed lovers on me. I think we may have to end up killing Osiris in order to kill savathun this season, she is inhabiting his body remember. Which will suck. Hopefully I'm wrong

  • @firey0748

    @firey0748

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eu.stacio with that being case… saint might not be too happy with us even if he says how much he respects our decision to do so… it’s the Uldren and Mara situation all over again

  • @samlasalle3853

    @samlasalle3853

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is probably already dead too. That was his actual body, and we heard what happened to it in the cutscene, and the fact that they didn't actually show it because it was probably graphic, suggests that Savathun is lying to us again and that Osiris is most likely dead.

  • @christophergarland7936
    @christophergarland79362 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, Saint may be the catalyst that kicks off The Witch Queen. I have a feeling that in a blind rage, he will end up unintentionally foiling whatever plan Mara has in place to kill Savathûn when the time comes.

  • @thekhoifish0146

    @thekhoifish0146

    2 жыл бұрын

    “No, I’M killing Savathûn”

  • @witherhoard5333

    @witherhoard5333

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spoiler. Savathun willcsacrifice herself then we will be tricked into giving her her memories back once she has the light

  • @DUKEzors

    @DUKEzors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Saint and Mara, Petra and Crow. Each pair with significant trust issues.

  • @ExtrnalSorce2

    @ExtrnalSorce2

    2 жыл бұрын

    What, like infinity war with Starlord?

  • @christophergarland7936

    @christophergarland7936

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ExtrnalSorce2 Exactly

  • @URSoDead2Me
    @URSoDead2Me2 жыл бұрын

    Ya'll remember during one of the Overrides, when Osiris says, "the Light is key to victory." Man...that had a double meaning, both of which I knew when it was said and it's chilling when you think about it in that way, especially now that our suspicions were correct. So we know that Savuthun makes Hive ghosts that bring dead Hive back to life as Guardians and such, but we still have yet to see exactly HOW that's achieved. Would be really awesome if Sagira were still alive, but from what the lore says, she sacrificed herself to save Osiris. That fucking sucks.

  • @PANCAKEMINEZZ

    @PANCAKEMINEZZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm mostly mad that Sagira was just killed off screen and there was hardly any, if any at all, fanfare for her death. She's one of the few D2 characters I actually kind of liked, and she just kind of got wiped from the game. I just we get to meet her again, one way or another, to get some actual closure on her death. Even if she's a corrupted ghost we have to kill, but she gets to say her goodbyes or something.

  • @ShinRyuuk
    @ShinRyuuk2 жыл бұрын

    Basically time to reexamine everything Osiris has ever said since season of the Hunt. Like week 2 of Presage: "The ignorance of my youth; the pain of change. Unproven faith wilted by logic."

  • @HighTower-fk6vh

    @HighTower-fk6vh

    2 жыл бұрын

    OMG YES

  • @JamesyHerald
    @JamesyHerald2 жыл бұрын

    Also, is anyone else just a LITTLE concerned that there is a portal in the H.E.L.M. that goes directly to Mara Sov's quarters and within those quarters lies some form of Savathun? ...and the portal works both ways.

  • @justinworkman5482

    @justinworkman5482

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shes been IN the city for months and we had, count em, two Vex gates open within the Last Cities walls. We arnt that smart when it comes to portals.

  • @JamesyHerald

    @JamesyHerald

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justinworkman5482 Haha, this is true.

  • @Techhunter_Talon

    @Techhunter_Talon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justinworkman5482 Two? Only know of the one. The only other Vex Gate I recall is the one from Season of the Undying but that was used in the Black Garden to draw out the Undying Mind.

  • @justinworkman5482

    @justinworkman5482

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Techhunter_Talon Yea. The structure of my previous post is terrible. Indeed I am talking about the gate durring Undying. Not a terrible outcome story wise like building something like that can be, but twice now a Vex portal has had some bad times tied them, made in the last city. The only thing that was drawn out by that portal durring undying was my disappointment. Lol

  • @blakedoubrava1149

    @blakedoubrava1149

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm more concerned that the H.E.L.M. looks like a starship bridge and overlooks a hangar bay. Current theory is that Bungie is getting us use to coming to the H.E.L.M. for our seasonal content so that we're comfortable with it when we have to abandon earth and the Last City in whatever XK class event the Taken pull off.

  • @thunderbird7020
    @thunderbird70202 жыл бұрын

    God. Savathun is such a monster. This is just sadistic on an unspeakable level. I can’t imagine the guilt Osiris felt for what “he” did. I just hope Savathun keeps her word and returns Osiris.

  • @cammydwhammy

    @cammydwhammy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wishful thinking for the Hive Goddess of Cunning and Lies to keep her word, but lets hope :(

  • @deraybell9140

    @deraybell9140

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do have reason to believe that she will. If only because without her worm God she will be easy Pickins so she will need to throw him in a compromising position so that we can see them and she can get away.

  • @vorpalweapon4814

    @vorpalweapon4814

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Lightscribe225 Savathun knows everyone is hell bent on ending her once she releases Osiris so she isnt leaving without either an escape plan or leverage to keep everyone attacking her.

  • @Techhunter_Talon

    @Techhunter_Talon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Lightscribe225 Right, that's quite the thing there. Lord Saladin, who was adamant against allying with the Cabal and even letting them be to sort out their own affairs on the agreement that we and them don't shoot at each other.

  • @too_official6194

    @too_official6194

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well she is a god so

  • @derpdeer6140
    @derpdeer61402 жыл бұрын

    Still extremely intrigued by the fact that savathun says “o guardian mine” and also the worm god coiled around the traveler at the end of the cutscene, I feel like something very important is there, we just don’t have the pieces to put it all together yet

  • @teagenthetiefling5296

    @teagenthetiefling5296

    2 жыл бұрын

    OKAY I wonder if even the Great Hunt was engineered to empower Riven's essence. And that it all comes back to Riven. Is Riven the Entity in the Darkness? If you go through the Glykon it is very Riven-y as different dead people whisper to you as you go through it, plus all the stuff with Katabisis, the Crown, etc. ALSO the Dead Man's Tale ornament has an ahamkara on it. ALSO ALSO there is a fucking Taken DRAGON EGG in Mara's chambers. Riven reborn?

  • @teldarin7557
    @teldarin75572 жыл бұрын

    "When Saint gets his hands on Savathun", huh? All I heard in my head as Byf said that was:"Rip and tear! Until it is done!" *E1M1 starts playing*

  • @Metaphysicist

    @Metaphysicist

    2 жыл бұрын

    The licensing would be expensive.

  • @MorphineZ0
    @MorphineZ02 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I keep on getting this sinking feeling that Savathûn will indeed hold true to her word and return Osiris to us, but he most certainly won’t be alive

  • @syli3694

    @syli3694

    2 жыл бұрын

    She promises to return him safely Wierd choice of words to return him dead

  • @MorphineZ0

    @MorphineZ0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@syli3694 I hope she also stays true to the “safely” part but I honestly doubt it 😔

  • @MorphineZ0

    @MorphineZ0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Sam Crompton Oof yeah that might be it

  • @josh___something

    @josh___something

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Sam Crompton well, he was being puppeted by one of the most powerful entities aligned with the hive, slowly seeing her actions bring about the destruction to the last city of humanity and creating rifts in his closest relationships. I fuckin guarantee you that no one on God's green earth can come out of that nightmare scenario without serious lasting trauma.

  • @whatinthegoddamn2353

    @whatinthegoddamn2353

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it be the biggest surprise for savathun to actually give him back but tell us to rescue him instead? We rescue lost techeuns in that shattered realm so surely we'll have to do that for osiris too. It'll be just enough twist for savathun to have a giggle about (guardian risking their life to save osiris) and enough good wrap up for osiris to be alive

  • @willsword8100
    @willsword81002 жыл бұрын

    Haunting that Savathun, Osiris and The Exo Stranger all call ghosts/Guardians "Little Light."

  • @KRYMauL

    @KRYMauL

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's the vex word for it.

  • @outbreakperfected5704

    @outbreakperfected5704

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe but savathun isn’t related to the vex in the sense Elsie and Osiris are

  • @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ghost: "Im not that small >:("

  • @MikeJones-art-is-life142

    @MikeJones-art-is-life142

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought Savathun was the initial reason the Vex came into our universe because she tricked Oryx and let them into his throne world

  • @jedimasterpickle3

    @jedimasterpickle3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MikeJones-art-is-life142 The Vex were always there. Yeah, Savathun tricked Crota into letting them into Oryx's throne world, but they were always present beforehand. That incursion was probably just the first time the Vex were Taken and is where Quria came from.

  • @garrettviewegh677
    @garrettviewegh6772 жыл бұрын

    What I took most from this cutscene: Saint-14 to Savathun: Give me my bird husband back you witch!

  • @Ki7sn

    @Ki7sn

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @franciscopatino5803

    @franciscopatino5803

    2 жыл бұрын

    😵‍💫 I know right? Didn’t see that one coming

  • @fghjgfjgfhjgfh
    @fghjgfjgfhjgfh2 жыл бұрын

    “The witch queen, sister of shapes, deepest of the hive coven, etcetera, etcetera” I love that Savathun mocks the titles that have been imposed on her. She has no interest in being considered hive royalty or above the guardians. She is a master manipulator and I am LOVING IT. Blunt force ala Oryx’s approach isn’t nearly as interesting.

  • @mrmr3657

    @mrmr3657

    2 жыл бұрын

    It really does give her extra character the smug ego of it all

  • @noahkline4263

    @noahkline4263

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oryx is like the blunt force, shock-and-awe, reconnaissance arm of the hive. Savathun is for black-ops, wet works, and cover up like our Hidden forces. Xivu arath is pure strategy and enduring war strategy to finish their enemies of in a final war of attrition to the Hives overwhelming numbers.

  • @humanmale1042
    @humanmale10422 жыл бұрын

    Me and my lore buddy spent on day one An hour or so reading all the new lore, our favorite was the one about how “Iron Lord Saladin Forge…” and his anger toward who ducked over his fellow gaurdians. I need a cutscene with Saladin and Saint fucking DESTROYING SOME HIVE

  • @riiswalker8241

    @riiswalker8241

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too kid, me too

  • @ArtNoctowl

    @ArtNoctowl

    2 жыл бұрын

    We need Saint, Saladin, and Ikora just kill all the hive as soon as they get back Osiris

  • @hoj4984

    @hoj4984

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep, we need to see saladin yeet Saint in to a thundercrash headbutt toward the hive

  • @Monkey_on_Call

    @Monkey_on_Call

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hoj4984 Or better yet, Saint dragging a hive knight, by the ankle, into a bubble.

  • @nathansnape9614

    @nathansnape9614

    2 жыл бұрын

    one of my favorite lore tabs of this season the the tab from the Chrysura Melo, especially the last five paragraphs and what it could mean for our favorite shouty man

  • @Darkherojl
    @Darkherojl2 жыл бұрын

    Savathun’s reveal changed every single interaction that we had or heard of “Osiris” in the past year. That’s amazing

  • @josh___something

    @josh___something

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, a lot of people called it THE MOMENT the season of the hunt started.

  • @peteraustin9057

    @peteraustin9057

    2 жыл бұрын

    Time to go replay all three versions of presage and shit myself

  • @Sammie1053

    @Sammie1053

    2 жыл бұрын

    I still can't get over it. For MONTHS, if not over a YEAR, the prevailing theory has been that Osiris was _brainwashed_ by Savathûn via her song, and that she might be influencing him remotely. Nobody thought he was literally POSSESSED.

  • @astronb6350

    @astronb6350

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@josh___something nah, it was known by splicer, no one thought he was savathun in hunt

  • @branthro6492
    @branthro64922 жыл бұрын

    Every time Savathûn speaks I can just hear Eris screaming at us. I hope we see her reaction to these events

  • @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    2 жыл бұрын

    You might not see her at all.

  • @Tran1234.
    @Tran1234.2 жыл бұрын

    Bruh someone needs to hold back Saint 14 because when saint 14 gets his hands on the witch queen there’s going to be nothing left to turn into a gun

  • @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm working on it!

  • @edmilsonmartins1795

    @edmilsonmartins1795

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@savathunthewitchqueen3055 Wait a minute ...

  • @snnacks
    @snnacks2 жыл бұрын

    When you say Osiris was collecting Hive ghosts, you mean Spider's dead ghost collection, right?

  • @protomahawker156

    @protomahawker156

    2 жыл бұрын

    *creepy unsettling smile*

  • @twiz66

    @twiz66

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that seems like it was a mistake. I don't know if they were Spiders, or just Ghosts collected from various places, but he sent Crow to gather them and we haven't encountered Hive Ghosts yet.

  • @MyCupOfTea101

    @MyCupOfTea101

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am assuming from Spider's stock of dead ghosts.

  • @codymcginley6823

    @codymcginley6823

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spider collects ghost shells, Savathun was collecting the light crystal, the thing the ghost uses to bring us back

  • @Th3SlipKnoT
    @Th3SlipKnoT2 жыл бұрын

    The Witch Queen has to end with Saint crushing Savathun's skull with his bare hands. I cannot accept any other finale, he deserves it.

  • @lucifercaeleste

    @lucifercaeleste

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get used to disappointment.

  • @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lucifercaeleste I sure hope you're right.

  • @lucifercaeleste

    @lucifercaeleste

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@savathunthewitchqueen3055 no need to worry, O Witch Queen Mine.

  • @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@lucifercaeleste If I end up dying in the end of the season, I'm blaming it on your words!

  • @lucifercaeleste

    @lucifercaeleste

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@savathunthewitchqueen3055 if you die then you were an imposter.

  • @johannvongenerico9487
    @johannvongenerico94872 жыл бұрын

    The Saint\Osiris story these past few seasons has taken on waves of deeper heartbreak with this week's story 😭

  • @anosvoldigoad3021
    @anosvoldigoad30212 жыл бұрын

    Osiris' body language was more out of pocket than a vex hobgoblin t-posing, and that's saying something

  • @firdouglas2946
    @firdouglas29462 жыл бұрын

    Heres something I've been thinking about since that cutscene: Savathun talks about us not being a hero and her a villain, but simply paracausal beings. I think this is one of those moments where shes telling both a truth and lying to us. I think she's meant to play a role similar to the Devil, where he never tells the complete truth but when he does include something truthful, it's meant to be twisted and shaped in such a way so as to put us off the proverbial scent or lead us down a completely different road than one we were on. I think Savathuns comment about us being paracausal has some big lore and heavy Destiny-universe implications. Lore wise, our character has been the one guardian to do things against seemingly all odds. Oryx, Crota, Quria, Riven, etc., etc. Emphasizing off Quria, I think that Savathun is trying to get us to underestimate ourselves and thereby not realize our full potential. We clearly are capable of harnessing both darkness and light as tools (darkness is even manifested by ourselves without the need of a Pyramid equivalent to the Traveler's ghost's.) I think that part of her plan is that if she can get us to fall short in our confidence, abilities, connection to light and dark, then the only fear she has of ever being stopped will disappear. At least these are my thoughts so far, especially with the general plot thus far of Witch Queen taken into consideration.

  • @talinon1327

    @talinon1327

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not disagreeing with in any way, I agree. Something to keep in mind though, before we got darkness powers, brother Vance discovered (and Mara already knew) when we die in trials, that two notes rang out. When the traveler was blocked by Gaul, only one did. The reason I bring this up, is the ghost is our connection to the traveler. What if it's more than that?

  • @firdouglas2946

    @firdouglas2946

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@talinon1327 I remember hearing about that and I've wondered about that too. I know one piece of lore that REALLY stuck out to me when it happened was the mission event where the Traveler repaired itself before Beyond Light. Our ghost made the comment that the huge signature it was picking up was similar to a ghost's. And that is was coming from the Traveler. Maybe that has a connection to the two notes? One note denoting our guardians connection to each general paracausal power?

  • @talinon1327

    @talinon1327

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@firdouglas2946 that's prob the true answer, but my original thought, was that the ghosts are small portions of the traveler, making the powers we have smaller portions of it, and why we needed to gather together to stop the pyramids from taking this solar system. If that is true, then the traveler and the pyramids are just conduits for the gardener and the winnower. Ways for them to contact those inside the game they've been playing for eons. With everything happening though, it's all up in the air to me lol love the lore and story of this game 😂

  • @firdouglas2946

    @firdouglas2946

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@talinon1327 I think that is likely to be the case as well. But as you're hinting at, it's not the entire situation. I've kinda theorized that there had been multiple Travelers before but the Pyramids (The Winnower) are just more enticing as they speak to individual greeds and lusts, whereas the Traveler (The Gardner) entices people to be thoughtful of everything around them, thereby persuading them to be ultimately better than they would otherwise be in following the Winnower. Honestly, the direction they've started taking the story in and the level of care they've been putting into it has been amazing! I've really happy that the lore is getting where we can genuinely theorize some pretty deep stuff and have the strong possibility of it being answered or touched on. Directly or Indirectly.

  • @Core81alpha

    @Core81alpha

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@firdouglas2946 ok savathun might be saying saying is all true since we think all she says is lies a way to minipulate our thoughts but if you put a little truth in that endles pool of lies then its trully a gamble to get real information from her

  • @vuvuzela4570
    @vuvuzela45702 жыл бұрын

    I kind of agree with savathûn. Her cutscene did make a lot of sense but ”not agreeing with her methods” is far from the truth. She is the reason cayde died. I do not understand why mara sided with her. Mara loves her brother and he would still remember her if it wasn’t for savathûn. He wouldn’t be corrupted. Granted, he would be a dick but he would still be him. Cayde would be alive. Have people forgotten cayde? Did he die for nothing?

  • @kyragem9491

    @kyragem9491

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mara is doing what she is doing because she's entirely self-serving. This is the same woman who expects people to just blindly follow her and not question her actions or motives, and then gets violently angry if people call her out on just being absentee. It's entirely within her purview to strike a deal with Savathun if it furthers her own plans, regardless of what may happen.

  • @thunderbird7020

    @thunderbird7020

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mara emotionally abused and manipulated her brother while he was alive. She may have “loved” him in some form, but that’s because he was loyal. she wasn’t a stellar sister.

  • @jonpapi_2247

    @jonpapi_2247

    2 жыл бұрын

    She already said if we remove her worm then it will make Savathun vulnerable so she's just taking another huge risk but she knows Savathun will betray us eventually and I wouldn't say she sided with her they only came to an agreement

  • @avenoktys3253

    @avenoktys3253

    2 жыл бұрын

    she didnt side with her. she is removing her worm because it would make savathun vulnerable

  • @mon-taffitan
    @mon-taffitan2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, if we get to rescue Osiris, the reunion between him and Saint is 100% gonna make me cry. But if we don’t get to rescue him, I will die inside for Saint. 😭

  • @steveheist6426
    @steveheist64262 жыл бұрын

    On that "Trust me." line, read the lore tab on the new Trials Linear Fusion. "Trust me." Is said to Reed-7 about Shayura, about the events of the match detailed in last season's Trials gear. Things are getting interesting, certainly.

  • @Nexuish
    @Nexuish2 жыл бұрын

    Presage and now this, there’s the grim dark red pepper flakes Destiny was missing for a minute there

  • @joshuavidrine889

    @joshuavidrine889

    2 жыл бұрын

    We truly need more of this. After all, Destiny is such a grimdark setting. Humanity is on the brink of extinction and has no power of their own to save themselves from the almost daily alien invasions and eldritch monsters and machines seeking to wipe us out for reasons most don't understand. We rely on some wounded machine God that embodies a cosmic force, one that has abandoned other civilizations in the past, to bring back a select few of our dead to defend us and hopefully they don't go insane or get corrupted by the dark forces opposing us.

  • @lethalescape9572

    @lethalescape9572

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree. Sprinkled-in comedic relief is fine, but Destiny's universe has always been grimdark and the narrative works best when kept that way imo. Goofy armor and bad jokes aside, Destiny is supposed to always have an overarching feeling of loss, dread, and anxiety which drives the story

  • @FM39__
    @FM39__2 жыл бұрын

    I bet he’s not actually alive and savathûn is deceiving us

  • @shotokanrob2487

    @shotokanrob2487

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everything she says is a lie, he’s neither dead nor alive as far as I’m concerned. I put him in the same place as Toland right now.

  • @Subsistence69

    @Subsistence69

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shotokanrob2487 Schroedingers Osiris?

  • @riiswalker8241

    @riiswalker8241

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Subsistence69 if you will.

  • @PSO2LetsPlays
    @PSO2LetsPlays2 жыл бұрын

    Mara: "someone once told me-" Me: 🎵 THE WORLD WAS GONNA ROLL MEE 🎵

  • @chrisrandom1404

    @chrisrandom1404

    2 жыл бұрын

    I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed. 🎵

  • @chrisrandom1404
    @chrisrandom14042 жыл бұрын

    Us: Saves Osiris. Saint: Grabs Savathun by the throat. Me: "Cat fight!"

  • @RohanSpartin

    @RohanSpartin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Saint! Go be with Osiris. Savathun is mine to deal with. *loads The Last Word with malicious intent*

  • @dragonomiconxxx
    @dragonomiconxxx2 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone else catch how savathun said "oh guardian mine". Like an ahamkara? Or however you speel it. Susathun.

  • @josh___something

    @josh___something

    2 жыл бұрын

    You mean like the taken riven? Wonder who took her in the first place.

  • @zarsebas

    @zarsebas

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s just part of the Anthem Anatheme, the “Oh guardian mine” or every variation of it is used to invoke this power by placing who you’re referring to in a cage of ownership, hence the “O mine”, iirc even Calus has called us “Oh champion mine”

  • @DetectiveWarden

    @DetectiveWarden

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zarsebas That and she probably recalled to Riven, since she was the one who controlled her, Riven also called us “Brother and brood Slayer ” and there’s only one who would fit for that.

  • @RagingSpartan24
    @RagingSpartan242 жыл бұрын

    Man where is Eris when we need her? So many of these hive threats could so easily be avoided if she was around. Sadly she only shows up when the shit has already hit the fan with the hive (for story reasons obviously)...

  • @arcanetraveller6304

    @arcanetraveller6304

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably playing in the snow on europa with Drifter and Elsie.

  • @innocent-_-

    @innocent-_-

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@arcanetraveller6304 best comment yet haha I love that image you painted for us, just imagining eris and Elsie rolling a snowman while drifter throws snowballs at them

  • @devilkid224

    @devilkid224

    2 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't eris become the witch queen in the other timelines? I wouldn't want her ass anywhere near any hive

  • @Wrld_of_Shy

    @Wrld_of_Shy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@devilkid224 she doesn't necessarily become the Witch Queen she somehow finds a way to control Savathun and use her to do her bidding

  • @TheKPhillip

    @TheKPhillip

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eris isn’t all that noble. She liked the darkness if you recall, was also eager to communicate with it and in the altered timeline takes Savathun’s place basically.

  • @silverspectre527
    @silverspectre5272 жыл бұрын

    I've been thinking Savathun actually let us kill Quaria to lessen her connections to the Darkness. It seems see's wanting to break free from the control a paracasual entity (removing her worm to no longer be a pawn of the Dark, the powers in Witch Queen (no spoilers), etc.). I also believe this is the reason Xivu's hunting her

  • @silverspectre527

    @silverspectre527

    2 жыл бұрын

    Talking with a friend, I'm revised to say she probably anticipated both outcomes, so either way she'd be a winner from last season

  • @Bell-hj3zc
    @Bell-hj3zc2 жыл бұрын

    I like how she everything good thing she told us she did in that cutscene was her fault at the origin it was just a domino effect -she said she helped redeem uldren but in reality she and riven are the one who made him insane and made him do these thing in the first place -she protected zavala from ciatal ambitions: she is the one who made the fall of the cabal home world possible and the reason ciatal made her way into our solar system in the first place -

  • @ryanturney2640
    @ryanturney26402 жыл бұрын

    Just noticed something cool. In the opening mission when Mara says to lower our weapons, you can actually see our guardian doing this. 2:15

  • @elizabethgouverneur2972

    @elizabethgouverneur2972

    2 жыл бұрын

    Neat

  • @thekhoifish0146

    @thekhoifish0146

    2 жыл бұрын

    When it happened I was like “really, bro?! the word from a long gone Awoken is enough to make you trust a Hive queen?!”

  • @ryanturney2640

    @ryanturney2640

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thekhoifish0146 ikr

  • @RayisX
    @RayisX2 жыл бұрын

    I find it very interesting that Eris hasn't shown up in a while

  • @joshuavidrine889

    @joshuavidrine889

    2 жыл бұрын

    You might be onto something. We'll keep an eye out for further Eris related things, since this stuff is right up her alley.

  • @Wulfspyder

    @Wulfspyder

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuavidrine889 I was expecting her to instruct us in the new Dark subclass by teaching us Hive magic, but they've put that aside for the Light sub reworks. I do still expect Eris to become involved with this season and a bigger role beside Ikora during Witch Queen's campaign.

  • @astronb6350

    @astronb6350

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Wulfspyder in lightfall?

  • @lukematthew3503

    @lukematthew3503

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mhm, the only “guardian” with something else besides a ghost that guides her. She’ll be the witch queens vessel.

  • @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    2 жыл бұрын

    I might've taken care of her.

  • @giantslayer9335
    @giantslayer93352 жыл бұрын

    I like how this past year has been marked with instance after instance of us having to accept and work with allies that used to be our worst enemies, yet the moment we encounter Savathun, an entity that doesn't work for the Darkness and is rather opposed to the Black Fleet, we immediately throw all of that out the window and don't even consider the possibility that she could at least be of some use. Saladin doesn't seem so racist now, does he?

  • @kabukaze
    @kabukaze2 жыл бұрын

    hearing Saint-14 saying "NO" in pain just hurt me so much TT

  • @leaderunith4l324
    @leaderunith4l3242 жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty bloody worried on how Savathûn is going to manipulate us this Season, I mean, we’ve only talked with her once, and She’s already managed to convince half the community that she’s an ally

  • @stunnell

    @stunnell

    2 жыл бұрын

    She MIGHT be an ally against the Darkness while it is a common enemy. But, the moment the Darkness is defeated, she WILL turn against us. There are three types of allies: 1) The kind you can trust: I think the Mithrax is a good example of this 2) The kind you trust for the most part, but there are reasons you don't fully trust: I think Caiatl and Mara fall in this category 3) The kind you don't trust at all, so you make sure to hold your cards close to your chest and use the alliance to further your own goals while preparing for when the alliance ends. If there is an alliance with Savathun, this would be the kind we have. BUT, if we do this, we better be careful because it isn't an issue of playing with fire, it is playing with a nuke.

  • @fort809

    @fort809

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the problem with doing a “manipulative character” storyline is that most of the community isn’t going to realize she’s lying through her teeth at us

  • @daniellejarvis9131

    @daniellejarvis9131

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it is more for hope that we get a new never expected ally than actual convinced, Thats what it is for me at least

  • @DetectiveWarden

    @DetectiveWarden

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fort809 That’s what makes it great. I love that she isn’t just a clear and plain villain, she’s written with this incredible antagonist charisma that can make you forget for a second that she actually is a big enemy that has been going against us for literal years.

  • @Techhunter_Talon

    @Techhunter_Talon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fort809 In the end, it doesn't matter if we do believe her or not. Even though the saying is 'Guardians make their own fate', that is a blatant lie in reality. Everything we do is because someone told us to do it. As a Guardian, we have little to no freedom in what we do in the story. At best, we act as observes to the game's events.

  • @frozenfreehand1997
    @frozenfreehand19972 жыл бұрын

    "my sister hunts me on behalf of another". This implies that xivu aurath is hunting savathun not only because of sword logic, but also because someone has xivu doing it for them. Also love how savathun goes "etcetera etcetera" when going through her title like she's recited it dozens of times before like she's tired of it

  • @yaz5300

    @yaz5300

    2 жыл бұрын

    we already know why xivu arath is hunting savathun. Because savathun interfered with our communication with the darkness, the darkness got pissed off at her so it told all of it's forces to kill her.

  • @Hallu91

    @Hallu91

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yaz5300 It's because, like she says, Savathun wants to be free. Free of the pack with worm gods, and the deep/darkness. She's tried to trick her worm before, failing at it.

  • @jonathanpocock7124

    @jonathanpocock7124

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Hallu91 I feel like her saying “another” means it’s a single person not the worm gods or the darkness. I feel like if it was just the darkness she would have said so. Also I believe it might be Calus.

  • @zeraphphalanx2794

    @zeraphphalanx2794

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or the one behind the darkness.

  • @jonathanpocock7124

    @jonathanpocock7124

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zeraphphalanx2794 that’s what I meant by “the darkness ”

  • @symphorion
    @symphorion2 жыл бұрын

    Just realized that we were given a clue to Osiris being Savathun during Chosen, through Presage, with this dialogue when conversing with Caitl on the voices they heard: "The ignorance of my youth; the pain of change. Unproven faith wilted by logic."

  • @vanvan5761

    @vanvan5761

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cool. So I am not the only one who had a strange feeling about that one.

  • @Spike2276
    @Spike22762 жыл бұрын

    I like that implication in the Boots of the Assembler lore that Osiris underneath his ancient wisdom and stoicism does have a rather romantic side, really humanizes him in a way i just didn't expect

  • @jaradsibon6047

    @jaradsibon6047

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wait, but that lore is specifically about how that ISN'T Osiris, it's Savathun wearing his skin... It's arguably the literal opposite of humanizing. Wut.

  • @Spike2276

    @Spike2276

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jaradsibon6047 "We could fly out to the Alps," Saint suggested. "Or walk around the ruins of Prague. Like we used to." This part specifically, before Savathûn it would seem that Osiris and Saint had a surprisingly warm and romantic relationship, which i didn't expect even from CoO or Dawn era Osiris

  • @Rabavilas
    @Rabavilas2 жыл бұрын

    Can't shake the feeling that savathun's song is gonna play a role at the end of the season story...perhaps possessing crow?

  • @dragobane4728

    @dragobane4728

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please no, I want Crow to grow as a guardian

  • @Skull35
    @Skull352 жыл бұрын

    Damnit, who left all these chopped onions on my desk when I'm trying to watch Byf? This has happened so many times!

  • @MothFable
    @MothFable2 жыл бұрын

    I love how expressive each character was in the intro cutscene. It added so much depth. Good job destiny!

  • @TaviusPlays
    @TaviusPlays2 жыл бұрын

    My lord I am on the edge of tearing up… awesome video byf 😭

  • @briantheking456
    @briantheking4562 жыл бұрын

    I’m guessing he’s trapped, traveling the jungles of Savathun’s throne world.

  • @mrmr3657

    @mrmr3657

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s pretty clear that Osiris has been without physical form this whole time just a passenger

  • @brattysubenthusiast

    @brattysubenthusiast

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mrmr3657 the plot of Get Out but the Titan flashbang grenade doesnt work

  • @theonlythingihavetosayis9333

    @theonlythingihavetosayis9333

    2 жыл бұрын

    I dont play destiny 2 but have we seen her throne world? I assumed it would have been a lot more like crota's

  • @AceOfHearts777

    @AceOfHearts777

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theonlythingihavetosayis9333 Witch queens trailer shows her throneworld off

  • @theonlythingihavetosayis9333

    @theonlythingihavetosayis9333

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AceOfHearts777 ohhh ok. Thats cool then. I had no idea throne worlds were so different from one another

  • @ibrahermisleem2756
    @ibrahermisleem27562 жыл бұрын

    1. Poor Osiris, just hang in there old man we will get u back 2. Savathon trying to manipulate us .me : nope I'm not listening to queen of lies

  • @zeraphphalanx2794

    @zeraphphalanx2794

    2 жыл бұрын

    Better get your best weapons ready because this moth queen is going to crash and burn VERY hard.

  • @jedbowman2844
    @jedbowman28442 жыл бұрын

    I just the love the little spirit fingers wave that Osiris does in that cutscene 😂

  • @jonnyc212121
    @jonnyc2121212 жыл бұрын

    Imagine Saint's face when he realized that he wasn't topping Osiris, nut a hive godDESS. No, no, NO indeed

  • @Longsword.

    @Longsword.

    2 жыл бұрын

    saint is a gentle man, im sure he will bottom for osiris

  • @jonnyc212121

    @jonnyc212121

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Longsword. I don't think that would be very comfortable for Osiris though.

  • @Longsword.

    @Longsword.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonnyc212121 :^)

  • @bjornironsides6474

    @bjornironsides6474

    2 жыл бұрын

    He didn't touch saint since the witch took over which explains the distance and lack of connection. I had no idea they were homos lol

  • @Set451
    @Set4512 жыл бұрын

    "She cannot be trusted" Zavala said the same thing about Rasputin and Byf said the same thing about wielding the darkness

  • @HandsWithLegs
    @HandsWithLegs2 жыл бұрын

    I really want to know if there is any significance to Savathun using the ahamkara terminology, “Oh guardian mine”

  • @torunsmok5890

    @torunsmok5890

    2 жыл бұрын

    Anthem anatheme

  • @tkgwildfire5339

    @tkgwildfire5339

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bewitchment incantation.

  • @jasonfoster2351
    @jasonfoster23512 жыл бұрын

    Took a break from destiny but I’m glad to have found your channel once again.

  • @brainwash480
    @brainwash4802 жыл бұрын

    That reading of the lore card for the bow...I'm speechless. This is why you're lore daddy. The way you bring life into just reading a bit of lore, it's like I'm watching each characters mannerisms, all through just you reading. Amazing.

  • @spheal2089
    @spheal20892 жыл бұрын

    "My sister Shivu Arath hunts me on behalf of another." On behalf of who? Who's she working for?

  • @DUKEzors

    @DUKEzors

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a good point. Who does number two work for?

  • @crypticrayne14

    @crypticrayne14

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats what I've been wondering, unless its just to get us to sympathize with her so we will trust her

  • @aztumtheknightofwumbo7060

    @aztumtheknightofwumbo7060

    2 жыл бұрын

    Either the worms, the Darkness, or a lie.

  • @eu.stacio

    @eu.stacio

    2 жыл бұрын

    The deep, the darkness marked savathun as a traitor for what she did in arrivals (interfering as well as learning necromancy). Xivu is following orders, as a true war god would.

  • @fort809

    @fort809

    2 жыл бұрын

    The darkness. Savathun is rejecting the sword logic and the “truth” of the darkness, and Xivu Arath has been hunting her down to kill her for her heresy

  • @JacobMinger
    @JacobMinger2 жыл бұрын

    The lore on this bow makes me cry if I’m being honest. The idea of completely losing the control of your body but still being there and witnessing it all has to be absolutely terrifying.

  • @samlasalle3853
    @samlasalle38532 жыл бұрын

    What do you hear Osiris? "The ignorance of my youth, unproven faith wilted by logic" Such a different context now. I really want to know exactly what Savathun heard in the glyckon.

  • @justarandomaccount7011

    @justarandomaccount7011

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ive been wondering this too

  • @Videogamefangirl

    @Videogamefangirl

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Books of Sorrow claim that upon fleeing from their throne, Savathun (then Sathona), stole the skin of her father's dead Worm god. As the three Hive Gods scoured the oceans for answers on how to reclaim their throne - the dead Worm whispered to Savathun, telling them to dive into the core of their own planet. There, they found the Worm Gods. The Worms offered great, unimaginable power, capable of achieving immortality - at the cost of always being fed, and always enacting their nature: Xivu Arath must always be strong, Savathun must always be cunning, and Oryx must always try to understand the world's secrets. They were locked in a cycle that would never end - doomed to wage war, kill and trick, destroying any civilization they could ever come across, never being able to consider peace for as long as they could be called "The Hive", all to retain their power - or die. "The ignorance of my youth, unproven faith wilted by logic."

  • @LordDoom10
    @LordDoom102 жыл бұрын

    "When Saint gets his hands on the witch queen." >looks at the Witch Queen DLC trailer I don't think such a moment will be as satisfying as you think.

  • @abby_exe2578
    @abby_exe25782 жыл бұрын

    Been curious on what he’s been experiencing thanks for the explanation

  • @RichardGrayson14
    @RichardGrayson142 жыл бұрын

    So Osiris is basically in the sunken place from the movie get out huh?

  • @GlitchManOmega

    @GlitchManOmega

    2 жыл бұрын

    I KNEW I wasn't the only one picturing it like that.

  • @vorlon010
    @vorlon0102 жыл бұрын

    I think the most important thing with Savathun is something I learnt from a distant relative who was a diplomat in the 50s. To paraphrase: "Never ask if [Savathun] is lying. Instead as 'why did [she] say that?" It's pointless to try and discern truth from lies when even *questionining* gives her more power. Instead, it's more useful to ask 'what does she gain by my believing this statement'.

  • @DennisKeepvogel
    @DennisKeepvogel2 жыл бұрын

    One thing I found very interesting so far is the use of moth-iconography concerning Savathun. Moths are, as per the metaphor, drawn to a flame, which in itself is a metaphor to light. The fact that Savathun is now personally reaching out to us might mean she is a moth drawn to our flame, our Light. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I don't think it's a coincidence.

  • @bhartleby5033

    @bhartleby5033

    2 жыл бұрын

    I Wholeheartedly agree with this take!

  • @aztumtheknightofwumbo7060

    @aztumtheknightofwumbo7060

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well the Hive were intended to be based on moths originally.

  • @ssj4broly974
    @ssj4broly9742 жыл бұрын

    It's mad well the writing is! I've felt so bad for Saint this whole time because of how he must have been feeling under the impression that there was a gap widening between him and osiris up until now. Also I'm curious about what role the drifter will have from now.

  • @IQDESTRUCTOR
    @IQDESTRUCTOR2 жыл бұрын

    wonder if that's what our guardians experience when we control them

  • @joshuavidrine889

    @joshuavidrine889

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Please, stop making me jump over the edge of the Tower, I just- Oh, well here I go dying again."

  • @IQDESTRUCTOR

    @IQDESTRUCTOR

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuavidrine889 or "why are you making to spare Uldren Sov, I'm going to personally pull the trigger you - oh hey I have my body back now"

  • @Wulfspyder

    @Wulfspyder

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah, your consciousness is the canon persona of your Guardian. It's something Bungie put forth awhile back that how players do things is actually how the Guardians that go out on strikes and raids act.

  • @JSzekely

    @JSzekely

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Wulfspyder good to know guardians CANONICALLY jump on Savathun's crystallized head and teabag then. :P

  • @colincatalan6313
    @colincatalan63132 жыл бұрын

    after reading that last lore card: hey guys you wanna see how hard I can cry?

  • @hyrulesmasher2
    @hyrulesmasher22 жыл бұрын

    the boots of the assembler lore tab is absolutely heartbreaking seeing how saint was feeling during this

  • @shotokanrob2487
    @shotokanrob24872 жыл бұрын

    I was so proud of myself when I finished that mission to find I’ve been right about Osiris since Crow started whistling the song. But I didn’t even think that it was Osiris’ body. I just imagined her trapping him and assuming his shape not actually TAKING it. The poor man, Saint is gonna go nuts of Savathun if he’s given the chance.

  • @daniellejarvis9131
    @daniellejarvis91312 жыл бұрын

    "Dont't trust savathun" Yeah too late for me, plans already in place

  • @lordaveg
    @lordaveg2 жыл бұрын

    Man! That wolftone draw lore tab gave me chills!

  • @vinceharwart8237
    @vinceharwart82372 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry Byf, I get so drawn into the story telling and lore that I keep forgetting to hit like on your videos. Always eager to learn from you and the destiny universe! Keep it up!

  • @jordanglass5996
    @jordanglass59962 жыл бұрын

    The moment when saint gets his hands on the real Osiris though

  • @PANCAKEMINEZZ
    @PANCAKEMINEZZ2 жыл бұрын

    The moral of the story is if you cross paths with Savathun, she'll steal your mythology cosplaying boyfriend by cosplaying as him. Noted.

  • @OneMeanReaper
    @OneMeanReaper2 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic reading of the lore Byf. I was hooked.

  • @CongoBongoBongo
    @CongoBongoBongo2 жыл бұрын

    I didn't think the campaign will ever be removed, and didn't get to finish it myself, and now this is really interesting to watch and listen to you, thank you.

  • @aag_zeta
    @aag_zeta2 жыл бұрын

    My favorite new lore tab so far this season is on the Iron Banner weapon Forge's Pledge. We know SAINT is pissed, but there's an even older Titan, one who's seen just as much battle and may know more on loss, and you REALLY don't want to be on his bad side. And Savathun is definitely on his bad side...

  • @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    @savathunthewitchqueen3055

    2 жыл бұрын

    For my personal safety, I wish to know who this Titan is! Edit: Damn it! I shouldn't have said wish!

  • @dustydan4961

    @dustydan4961

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@savathunthewitchqueen3055 Riven nearby: Your wish is now granted, my Queen. Good luck..... A few seconds later..... Saladin appears rights in front of Savathun's statue. Saladin: '....and if I was ever in front of that hag of a witch, I would....' *notices where he is. Looks to the statue* 'Huh, guess I'll show what I would do then.' Saladin smiles.

  • @dustydan4961

    @dustydan4961

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@savathunthewitchqueen3055 Riven nearby: Your wish is now granted, my Queen. Good luck..... A few seconds later..... Saladin appears rights in front of Savathun's statue. Saladin: '....and if I was ever in front of that hag of a witch, I would....' *notices where he is. Looks to the statue* 'Huh, guess I'll show what I would do then.' Saladin smiles.

  • @maxredone152
    @maxredone1522 жыл бұрын

    Has anyone else noticed Savathun is now in a cocoon? I believe she is using it to reach her form seen in the Whcih Queen trailer!

  • @Nexuish

    @Nexuish

    2 жыл бұрын

    The age of the moth people is upon us

  • @justinworkman5482

    @justinworkman5482

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep. Mara also mentions a crown artifact and Sav doesnt have the crown shaped head shown in the Witch Queen.

  • @Prismrivers
    @Prismrivers2 жыл бұрын

    Another weapon lore tab that I really enjoy this season is Chrysura Melo's : Savathun thinks back on what she did as Osiris, and even gives valuable insight on how powerful her song is. So powerful it totally pacified Shaxx when he sensed her presence in the Ahamkara skull. So uuh yeah, scary moth.

  • @justarandomaccount7011

    @justarandomaccount7011

    2 жыл бұрын

    0.o

  • @TheSoliloquy
    @TheSoliloquy2 жыл бұрын

    I'm new to this channel. The content and the comments section are both exemplary. I'm impressed!

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