Destiny 2 Lore - Mithrax's Story of Saint & a conversation he had with Shaxx shows us a hard truth!

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Destiny 2's Lore tells us of the story told by Mithrax about Saint-14, but Mithrax also spoke with Lord Shaxx about their past lives as barbaric warriors. They both struggle with an uncomfortable truth, and also a reason to keep fighting for peace. Mercy.
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  • @inktoxicant
    @inktoxicant3 жыл бұрын

    The way Saint's ribbons from the children become the tendrils of a monster was one of my favorite details of the cinematic

  • @wattsactingdoc

    @wattsactingdoc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was trying to understand what those were, the I read this and physically shuddered.

  • @chaosgreyblood

    @chaosgreyblood

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the cloth flap becomes a scaled, spiny tail!

  • @samescourt3801

    @samescourt3801

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whoever makes these drawings for the cinematics needs a raise fr

  • @zoup2189

    @zoup2189

    3 жыл бұрын

    The way they portrayed a titan void bubble was horrifying

  • @sparkyshark236

    @sparkyshark236

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chaosgreyblood That's the Vex mark from D1 and I wish they bring back strike exclusive armour like that.

  • @Wulfspyder
    @Wulfspyder3 жыл бұрын

    Saint: "You can't just ask people to live next to Baba Yaga." Mithrax: *despite screaming in absolute terror on the inside* "Let me tell you a story about Baba Yaga."

  • @zaffirk7726

    @zaffirk7726

    3 жыл бұрын

    He once was an associate of us. You kill his fucking dog. He's coming for you.

  • @ddoogg111

    @ddoogg111

    3 жыл бұрын

    “He’s not the devil. He’s the one you send to kill the devil.”

  • @mayhem2a895

    @mayhem2a895

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought Baba Yellowlegs from the Throne of Glass books

  • @LoneSilverW0lf

    @LoneSilverW0lf

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Saint will come for you and you will do nothing, because you can do nothing.

  • @kaelanirevyruun1676

    @kaelanirevyruun1676

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@EpslionBear *fucking penseel!

  • @prylosecorsomething3194
    @prylosecorsomething31943 жыл бұрын

    "War is war, and hell is hell. And between the two, war is alot worse" "There are no innocent bystanders in hell" - Chief Surgeon Hawkeye pierce. 4077th M.A.S.H.

  • @Starfloofle

    @Starfloofle

    3 жыл бұрын

    whew, that's an intense quote

  • @LulutheJester

    @LulutheJester

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had no damn business watching mash as a kid but I appreciate my godfather for showing it to me regardless

  • @mistformsquirrel

    @mistformsquirrel

    3 жыл бұрын

    I watched that show on Nick at Night as a kid. So much depth and empathy in 'just a sitcom'. Good pull.

  • @LoneSilverW0lf

    @LoneSilverW0lf

    3 жыл бұрын

    Such an underrated quote.

  • @warriorpoetforgod

    @warriorpoetforgod

    3 жыл бұрын

    Crazy underrated show. Very topical quote. Thanks for sharing!

  • @dominussharith9016
    @dominussharith90163 жыл бұрын

    Mithrax: You want to talk about monsters Saint: Yes Mithrax: I am looking at one

  • @clesjikoandromas2061

    @clesjikoandromas2061

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's funny because Mithraax french voice actor is Daniel Lobé who also voice Geralt of Rivia !

  • @amyvernazoni2610

    @amyvernazoni2610

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@clesjikoandromas2061 who?

  • @laghymclagherson3487

    @laghymclagherson3487

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@clesjikoandromas2061 I’m with him who

  • @emperorgrimlock7054

    @emperorgrimlock7054

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amyvernazoni2610 The witcher

  • @andrewm5840

    @andrewm5840

    3 жыл бұрын

    mic drop

  • @sirgoo9962
    @sirgoo99623 жыл бұрын

    *Guardians awkwardly shuffling into the Devil's Lair to farm*

  • @thekhoifish0146

    @thekhoifish0146

    3 жыл бұрын

    “I’m sorry, little one” Sepiks Prime: *sad servitor noises*

  • @michellemcguire3412

    @michellemcguire3412

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel awful now when dregs cower or run away with their hands on their heads when we explode into an area ... I just need my pinnacle 🥴

  • @Just_some_random_name

    @Just_some_random_name

    3 жыл бұрын

    i don’t feel awkward to farm there? i mean have you seen the bodies they keep there? They’ve eaten and killed thousands and leave the bones as a warning.

  • @mangopie7602

    @mangopie7602

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeaah but house of devils are pretty much assholes

  • @HarbingerOfManagedDemocracyy

    @HarbingerOfManagedDemocracyy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Just_some_random_name honestly never put much thought into the bones till now, nice.

  • @looperdog4531
    @looperdog45313 жыл бұрын

    "Your houses and titles are layers of politics. You are still fallen" those are big words for the advanced lego techinic set

  • @lightofworld8806

    @lightofworld8806

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmfao

  • @yurimaldonado4966

    @yurimaldonado4966

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @jaredeakman4403

    @jaredeakman4403

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd say she's more Bionicle.

  • @Frog-Shaped-Slime

    @Frog-Shaped-Slime

    2 жыл бұрын

    I heard that, and the outright racism in it

  • @firefightszz

    @firefightszz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention she’s part of a faction and is a politician herself, the hypocrisy is annoying

  • @calumbus3784
    @calumbus37843 жыл бұрын

    Credit to a Dreg for somehow impaling and killing Saint, even if he just was going to revive

  • @wattsactingdoc

    @wattsactingdoc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now regretting all those times in D1 when a dreg killed me and I revived to finish ‘em off ☹️

  • @too_official6194

    @too_official6194

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wattsactingdoc lmao 🤣🤣🤣

  • @too_official6194

    @too_official6194

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol those dregs be bout that because they got the most to prove

  • @calumbus3784

    @calumbus3784

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@too_official6194 You ain't wrong

  • @too_official6194

    @too_official6194

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@calumbus3784 facts he was like if I kill saint ima definitely get promoted straight to captain

  • @c4sualcycl0ps48
    @c4sualcycl0ps483 жыл бұрын

    Mithrax literally read the Destiny equivalent of The Slayer’s Testament.

  • @xdbetyar

    @xdbetyar

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the dark age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lenghtened...one stood. He chose the path of perpetual torment. In his revenous hatred he found no peace and with boiling blood he scoured the solar system seeking vengence against the fallen who had wronged him. And those that tasted the bite of his light named him... *The Saint*

  • @DemonReaper105

    @DemonReaper105

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@xdbetyar Perfection

  • @elitegamer9310
    @elitegamer93103 жыл бұрын

    It's like Amanda Holiday said last season, "We can all be better."

  • @DragonKnight90001

    @DragonKnight90001

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly its just taking that first step can be the most difficult hurdle.

  • @1vandread

    @1vandread

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. When House Light acknowledges they’re remnants of House of Wolves and apologizes for betraying the Awoken and the whole ‘attempting to drive humanity to extinction’ then Guardians can apologize for breaking their Houses. Though humanity has no reason to “be better” when they’re the ones living on a reservation still one bad day away from extinction.

  • @NitroNinja324

    @NitroNinja324

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1vandread Apologies show nothing. Actions do. Mithrax has done more to atone for his past this season than any apology ever could.

  • @LegiamasC-OnTwitta

    @LegiamasC-OnTwitta

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NitroNinja324 he’s been atoning for years now, all started on titan

  • @leandrometfan

    @leandrometfan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NitroNinja324 yeah, but know he's showing to all people, on titan and in zero hour he just let himself known for us

  • @ceej3132
    @ceej31323 жыл бұрын

    That was the FIRST TIME that Saint had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SAY. I stood there watching them for a minute, and departed. But WOW. The TENSION.

  • @henram36

    @henram36

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did the same, but probably for about 5 minutes. Telling Saint that I'm in no place to judge him, given the thousands I've laid waste to. Telling Mithrax I'm sorry, and that House Light is welcome as family within these walls...at least by my guardian.

  • @Atypical_Typo

    @Atypical_Typo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@henram36 refugees no matter the race will find safety within our walls. As long as they remain just that, refugees

  • @NihlusN7

    @NihlusN7

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ikora afterwards tells Mithrax that Saint got very affected by his story and I noticed by the dialogue during missions that Saint seem to be softening a bit. He's not that condescending anymore towards Mithrax. I still want to punch Lakshmi in the face tho

  • @thekhoifish0146
    @thekhoifish01463 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if Mithrax became the Kell of Kells: Misraaks, the Merciful

  • @GunlessSnake

    @GunlessSnake

    3 жыл бұрын

    He wouldn't exactly want to hold that title, but he's definitely the one.

  • @SupremeBananaLord

    @SupremeBananaLord

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spoiler for future scenes but the audio for that title was leaked 👀so there might be a chance

  • @Gam0rDude

    @Gam0rDude

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GunlessSnake I think Saint should give that to him after saving his life with a Shell

  • @Angietta

    @Angietta

    3 жыл бұрын

    MISRAAKS MISRAAKS THE MERCIFUL (Cue Roman colosseum chanting)

  • @kellofkells6002

    @kellofkells6002

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’d be jealous for one

  • @BOMBstylePRO
    @BOMBstylePRO3 жыл бұрын

    I love how you not only bring the cutscene that put Saint as a monster, because we are the protagonist of our own history and it's most true in war, the little chat with Shaxx it's just the perfect way to say we do bad things too but we can live in peace.

  • @LastCrossroads

    @LastCrossroads

    3 жыл бұрын

    We are literally the undead. I'm sure the concept of morality gets blurred when you don't have to deal with the consequences of mortality.

  • @Spike2276

    @Spike2276

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shaxx offers a tangible view of guardian monstrosity because he was a warlord We view Saint as a righteous warrior of Light, we view warlords as corrupt tyrants, but to the Eliksni a Lightbearer is terrifying no matter their allegiance

  • @ThePapaFlame

    @ThePapaFlame

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Spike2276 humanity has always looked at the Eliksni as terrifying no matter which House they belonged to simply because they were going to try and kill us no matter what. Or that’s how people saw them anyway

  • @oreo-postraphe

    @oreo-postraphe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Anything saint did was karmic retribution for countless centuries of genocide by Fallen houses HoL is an exception, not the norm Aido said it best, "The other Houses sought to unite Eliksni by killing humanity. The House of Light is different because ir seeks to unite Eliksni with humanity"

  • @floppydisksareop

    @floppydisksareop

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Spike2276 Slight correction: Shaxx *is* a warlord. He accepted Iron Lord jurisdiction, but of his own free will and never joined them. He kept his previous title as well. And quite a lot of warlords besides him proved to be anything but tyrants, albeit most joined the Iron Lords.

  • @BOMBstylePRO
    @BOMBstylePRO3 жыл бұрын

    As a titan main I want a full armor ornament for the "nightmare" Saint

  • @duganelliott8340

    @duganelliott8340

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the best we can hope for is a skull-saint 14 mask for festival of the lost

  • @ddoogg111

    @ddoogg111

    3 жыл бұрын

    hell yea fellow crayon eater

  • @archangelgabriel8493

    @archangelgabriel8493

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well we can forget that because we're all going to be dinosaurs come Halloween

  • @too_official6194

    @too_official6194

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@duganelliott8340 no most likely will be a ornament for the exotic hamlet

  • @backyardcasting5374

    @backyardcasting5374

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@duganelliott8340 or mabye an ornament for the helm of st 14

  • @uraniumvixen8075
    @uraniumvixen80753 жыл бұрын

    Saint's responde to Mithrax: ¨'I'm sorry, i needed the loot...¨

  • @noremak9664

    @noremak9664

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just farming bounties maaaate

  • @adamschmitt6491

    @adamschmitt6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    Heyvhe needed that devils dusk

  • @JasonNukeLegend

    @JasonNukeLegend

    3 жыл бұрын

    Farmed all that loot, still mains Perfect Paradox!

  • @jdcduff5894

    @jdcduff5894

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @00Grimreaper00

    @00Grimreaper00

    2 жыл бұрын

    *Basically us*

  • @haitai927
    @haitai9273 жыл бұрын

    I love how Mithrax is forever the learner and philosopher, he asks uncomfortable questions and it’s funny to watch our leaders squirm when he does

  • @barbehenn8786
    @barbehenn87863 жыл бұрын

    There's also dialog about how Saint has been deeply affected by Mithrax's words

  • @thedarkness490

    @thedarkness490

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really were? I was hoping after the cutscene he would have something to say but nothing

  • @JKeemTV

    @JKeemTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thedarkness490 It's a voiceline you can get after the end of an override mission if you've completed the latest weekly quest.

  • @wattsactingdoc

    @wattsactingdoc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JKeemTV does anyone on KZread have posted audio of this?

  • @Spartan-sz7km

    @Spartan-sz7km

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wattsactingdoc kzread.info/dash/bejne/nmSmyZSSoLCwZdI.html

  • @yashugoyal1772

    @yashugoyal1772

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thedarkness490 yeah Ikora talks to Mithrax about how it had an impact on him, and made him feel even worse when the eliksni children also said the same thing.

  • @anothrplayr4519
    @anothrplayr45193 жыл бұрын

    Just a heads up: you can stand in the cubes in that expunge mission to gain more time to carry the keys 👍

  • @zaffirk7726

    @zaffirk7726

    3 жыл бұрын

    Explain please

  • @anothrplayr4519

    @anothrplayr4519

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zaffirk7726 when your carrying the red orb stand in the floating cubes and a circle will form under it on the floor. Your 10 second timer for carrying the key will steadily increase back to 10 seconds

  • @chaosgreyblood

    @chaosgreyblood

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're also a mini-checkpoint, so that comes in handy as well!

  • @darthmaul3998

    @darthmaul3998

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t realize this until I saw multiple content creators do it in their backgrounds gameplay (but not explain it) so thank you for telling people so. Also nice pfp

  • @RUSHYRUSHY39

    @RUSHYRUSHY39

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, I noticed this right away when I first did it >v< I guess I didn’t know people could completely miss it

  • @whskyhamr
    @whskyhamr3 жыл бұрын

    I see a weird buddy cop plot point coming up with Saint and Mithrax

  • @s1umpy372

    @s1umpy372

    3 жыл бұрын

    whose to say thats not what bungie plans on making as their new game

  • @horrorfan117

    @horrorfan117

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s Master Chief and The Arbiter 2.0

  • @ohword620

    @ohword620

    3 жыл бұрын

    they'll probably do something similar to what they did with crow and zavala I bet

  • @termanaterbob

    @termanaterbob

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would buy the season pass a again if it ment I could see this as a 4 part animation tracking down Temporary's kidnappers. Actually I'd pay a lot more than that.

  • @adarkwind4712

    @adarkwind4712

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s called Arby and the Chief.....wait..

  • @Ironytheloreaxe
    @Ironytheloreaxe3 жыл бұрын

    I literally just read the weapon the other night. Gosh the lore this season SLAPS.

  • @Sta_cotto

    @Sta_cotto

    3 жыл бұрын

    It only just occurred to me that the lore tab must take place after the endless night is broken, because it refers to the sun setting

  • @nickshepherd4089

    @nickshepherd4089

    3 жыл бұрын

    The stories getting really really good.

  • @RebelOfTheNorm242

    @RebelOfTheNorm242

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Sta_cotto bingo

  • @andrewm5840

    @andrewm5840

    3 жыл бұрын

    facts

  • @dragonblade-go6pe

    @dragonblade-go6pe

    3 жыл бұрын

    I want to see a cutscene not like the one where it's like the one in this I want a full animated cutscene of them talking about that cuz it's cool to read about it but really to hear the characters actually talk about it would just be cool plus shaxx never gets any action anyway

  • @EmmL1223
    @EmmL12233 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed seeing the perception of Saint-14 as both a legend and a monster. I got to give it to Bungie with the story being really deep and tangled.

  • @narakuapprentice

    @narakuapprentice

    3 жыл бұрын

    My titan wanted to be saint, guy was his hero. Even heroes are villains in someone's story

  • @ddoogg111
    @ddoogg1113 жыл бұрын

    Old Saint-14 was just us now. “It tore through our great houses like they were nothing.” We did that too.

  • @FoehnAlkaiser

    @FoehnAlkaiser

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damn straight we did. Last time I checked statistics in D1 it was over 36,000

  • @RohanSpartin

    @RohanSpartin

    3 жыл бұрын

    And I enjoyed every second of it.

  • @Spike2276

    @Spike2276

    3 жыл бұрын

    I actually felt kinda bad in Beyond Light when i first stepped into Riis Reborn, we literally went into an Eliksni settlement and decided to wreck shop

  • @lastwymsi

    @lastwymsi

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've killed like... 400k enemies in d2. Fallen probably account for most of them.

  • @colinwilliams3459

    @colinwilliams3459

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Spike2276 more a battle station for Eramis

  • @Vendrimavir
    @Vendrimavir3 жыл бұрын

    You should feel no remorse in killing those that came to kill you; that being said, knowing where to draw the line between massacre and self-defense should be what defines us as guardians.

  • @NeoDraco00

    @NeoDraco00

    3 жыл бұрын

    Truth.

  • @Monarch_Prime

    @Monarch_Prime

    3 жыл бұрын

    *regrets killing thousands of eliksni to gain chunky kill trackers and bounties*

  • @quincyquincy4764

    @quincyquincy4764

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can absolutely defend yourself and feel remorse for taking a life.

  • @ahskoraksrefugee8679

    @ahskoraksrefugee8679

    3 жыл бұрын

    You shouldn't, but that may not stop some people from doing so anyway.

  • @xrstevenson

    @xrstevenson

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, Saint was just fucking done with the Fallen. He gave them multiple chances over multiple centuries and what made him finally snap? Twilight Gap did. Three Entire houses aligned to take down the city and if the Awoken Queen didn't stop the fourth, the city would be overrun. The city had become weaker by a lot since the glory days of Six Fronts. Saint knew this and knew the fallen won't stop.... so he forced them to. And it worked, and paved the way for our own victories against the fallen.

  • @lionheartz1337
    @lionheartz13373 жыл бұрын

    To take a probably bungled quote from Kyoraku Shunsui in Bleach. "As soon as you start a war both sides are evil. Doesn't matter what side you stand on."

  • @driftkingtate

    @driftkingtate

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic anime

  • @hammer9856

    @hammer9856

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't start wars... put if you start one with me I'll finish it, unless you ask for peace.

  • @BlazeRhythmTV

    @BlazeRhythmTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    My favourite character. Ended up being from this quote tbh

  • @virulenthunter3017

    @virulenthunter3017

    3 жыл бұрын

    "The moment both sides enter a war they're wrong" or something like that

  • @killtheheretics2915

    @killtheheretics2915

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@droneant7602 it was a war

  • @ouroboricscribe3201
    @ouroboricscribe32013 жыл бұрын

    Anyone: **Talks shit** Mithrax: Now open wide and say "AH" because this is going back the way it came

  • @raptormaverick4774
    @raptormaverick47743 жыл бұрын

    Shaxx: I’ve killed hundreds. And you? Mithrax: A lot Both: ....Damn

  • @GrimGunstar
    @GrimGunstar3 жыл бұрын

    Shaxx “I’ve killed hundreds of fallen” Me: ( I killed that many in the first 24 hours since I was brought back to life)

  • @trevordillon1921

    @trevordillon1921

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well he meant hundreds at six fronts. He’s been alive for centuries I’m sure he’s killed far more than we have.

  • @adarkwind4712

    @adarkwind4712

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trevordillon1921 I don’t know he’s been in the tower a long while.....how many times have you done wrath. Lol ik.

  • @RambunctiousGoober

    @RambunctiousGoober

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean us guardians got bounties, I'm sure we've killed way more than shaxx has in a century by now.

  • @ruby_loveyt

    @ruby_loveyt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adarkwind4712 The Tower is decently young. To be honest, it is. So, Shaxx, would most definitely have killed more than we have.

  • @floppydisksareop

    @floppydisksareop

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ruby_loveyt A lot of Shaxx's time during the Dark Age was spent protecting civilians from the elements, trying to scavenge food, etc. He was also almost completely defending his territory, and never really sought open conflict with the Fallen. Meanwhile, we've been attacking a fair bit. Honestly, it could go either way, mostly because killing Fallen is not that hard nowadays and that Shaax was never really looking for a fight, the fight was looking for him.

  • @Spike2276
    @Spike22763 жыл бұрын

    Remember folks: "The Light lives in all places, in all things"

  • @hehitmeinthekneegur1551

    @hehitmeinthekneegur1551

    3 жыл бұрын

    I fight for the future for the inocent of the last city and to have the sins of their forefathers not bear judge to their lives as individuals. That is the way of the light. That is what it takes to be a guardian.

  • @Mediados
    @Mediados2 жыл бұрын

    I like that the thing that moved Saint the most in Misraaks story wasn't the cruelty or violence, but the thought of children trembling at his name. He really is a big softie.

  • @JKeemTV
    @JKeemTV3 жыл бұрын

    I've disliked some of Mithrax's comments in the past where he colored themselves as victims but I think people should understand that this cutscene was nothing like that. This was a direct reply to Saint saying that people shouldn't be expected to live with their monsters, so he showed Saint the hypocrisy in making the Eliksni live with their biggest monster. That should be the message that everyone takes from this, not whether someone was justified in what they did or not.

  • @adarkwind4712

    @adarkwind4712

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except we’re not forcing them. They did follow Mithrax here but the decision was not forced upon them. I’m not justifying what they’ve done but the people of the city had no choice.

  • @laynegrey2003

    @laynegrey2003

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except House Light is filled with both victims AND those that have done very horrible things. They aren't mutually exclusive terms. They're victims of the systems their forefathers set in place, victims of their society, everything they have been taught is wrong but they can't know that until someone shows it to them like Misraaks. No, that doesn't excuse their actions, but they're trying to be better now. While we don't have to forgive them for being shitty in the past, we should at least allow them to try and become better.

  • @mr5yy

    @mr5yy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ya, I agree with both of what you said. I get that the House of Light themselves are (mostly) victims, with 90%+ of them being peaceful beings who haven't done anything to Humanity. Making them work with Saint-14 is a punishment for them by itself. At the same time, as Eido herself attests to, the Eliskni have been killing, torturing, and mauling humans for a millenium with no reason. Seeing any of the rest of the Fallen as victims is really hard, for the Citizen of the Last City, this would seem terrible. Having Mithraax's answer directly applying to Saint is the only way this should be seen, but it being the Destiny community, it's already being widely overused.

  • @TheRedThirst

    @TheRedThirst

    3 жыл бұрын

    No one is making the Fallen in the House of Light live in the last city, Ikora invited them without the support of the Consensus

  • @DudesterGX

    @DudesterGX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRedThirst if something is "the only option" isn't that also being without a choice? For House Light, coming to the city was the only choice, and for the people of the city, they may not have had a choice either, but what choice do they have to break the endless night? Both the Eliksni of House light and the People of the City are without choice. The leaders of both are trying to reach the best outcome possible for everybody, but all it takes is a single Lakshmi out for her own personal gain to start sowing seeds of hatred.

  • @beast0339
    @beast03393 жыл бұрын

    I find that War and it's consequences is all a matter of perspective. Everyone loses in the end if we don't try to learn about and study the other side of that coin. It's why I always enjoy listening to Eido and Mithrax, to learn about and understand their struggles and extend a hand, it's a wonderful thing. I think Saint will come around eventually.

  • @TempestFox

    @TempestFox

    3 жыл бұрын

    there's some override dialogue where ikroa tells misraaks That his story's has given saint a lot to think about. I feel like saint will be more inclined to side with misraaks moving onwards.

  • @Techhunter_Talon

    @Techhunter_Talon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TempestFox Which will be a big nail in the coffin for Lakshmi's planned coup.

  • @Silverolivia

    @Silverolivia

    3 жыл бұрын

    For someone to "Win" someone has to loose *shrug*

  • @YuriUnlucky

    @YuriUnlucky

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Techhunter_Talon Gotta kill the coup in its crib before it learns to walk

  • @themanofstonks8804
    @themanofstonks88043 жыл бұрын

    Me with house light: oh dear, oh dear gorgeous Me going into the devil's lair strike 7 times a week when it's the ordeal mercilessly slaughtering every Eliksni I see with my lament: *RIP AND TEAR*

  • @Just_some_random_name

    @Just_some_random_name

    3 жыл бұрын

    *thousands of dead bodies picked clean until there skeletons littered in fallen bases* people who think all the houses are just as tragic as the eliksni in house light are: “oh god i feel so bad for attacking them now”

  • @themanofstonks8804

    @themanofstonks8804

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Just_some_random_name I know, still funny

  • @kutlumzrak2689

    @kutlumzrak2689

    3 жыл бұрын

    Funny thing is, strikes are a "moment in time" according to Bungie. You only ever did devil's lair once, years ago, canonically. And that was against house of devils. In similar fashion, the Fallen that incited Saint's insatiable rage belonged to House of Rain, a house even all other eliksni hated for their barbarity. And they too, are gone and fucked. What I'm saying is, if you're not actively going on EDZ patrol and slaughtering fallen by the dozens, you're fine. Even then, those are house of dusk scavengers that purposefully ignored Misraaks' call, so that's fine too.

  • @SpiffoGaming

    @SpiffoGaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kutlumzrak2689 I always wondered where those spare valus tau arucs and sepiks primes came from

  • @dr.mustard6671
    @dr.mustard66713 жыл бұрын

    Long ago I was called “Demon” by the elites.

  • @bspoon2529

    @bspoon2529

    3 жыл бұрын

    taking it back lmbo

  • @elitegamer9310

    @elitegamer9310

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tbf, they were raging a genocidal war on humanity because their religious leaders told them to, not out of survival. Then again, they did believe in a lie.

  • @Spartan-sz7km

    @Spartan-sz7km

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elitegamer9310 @Elite gamer there's a bunch of history to that, halo 2 anniversary terminals and a bunch of other stuff. A select few Sangheli questioned the legitimacy of the Great Journey, the prophets weeded out those Sangheli that were jeopardising their political power or held opposing beliefs. Even some jiralhanae held these views (atriox). There was an extremely accomplished elite called Xytan that was exiled, one of the previous arbiters that caused the rank to be shameful, the arbiter we know Thel' Vadam, the heretic in halo 2 etc. The entire covenant belief system was also because of a single translation error, reclaimers -> reclaimation. The reason the covenant went into war with humanity was because of mendicant bias on the forerunner dreadnaught on high charity notified them of humanity as 'reclaimers' which would have undermined the entire covenant and their religion. So the prophets declared a holy war on them. Some elites questioned why humans weren't invited into the covenant too

  • @henram36

    @henram36

    3 жыл бұрын

    THE Demon. FIFY

  • @Frog-Shaped-Slime

    @Frog-Shaped-Slime

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Spartan-sz7km not only that, the Prophets executed all the Sangheli high council members in the mission before the last one in H2. And everyone on that council were people that were against the prophets or at least, on the fence

  • @Defiant493
    @Defiant4933 жыл бұрын

    Saint: “Huh, wonder who that’s for.”

  • @Boringspy

    @Boringspy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Saint: he dares use my name?! I shall crush this monster! It may come for humanity next!

  • @devincoleman4105
    @devincoleman41053 жыл бұрын

    Bro, I don’t know who’s doing the VA for Mithrax but my goodness, his delivery is 👌👌. Goosebumps every time.

  • @bspoon2529

    @bspoon2529

    3 жыл бұрын

    facts

  • @DragonKnight90001

    @DragonKnight90001

    3 жыл бұрын

    Apparently Ray Chase is the voice of Mithrax looking at imdb.

  • @chaosgreyblood

    @chaosgreyblood

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DragonKnight90001 It is him.

  • @devincoleman4105

    @devincoleman4105

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DragonKnight90001 hell yeah. My man been all over the place, and in just about any role.

  • @DragonKnight90001

    @DragonKnight90001

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@devincoleman4105 Mithrax is my favourite character in destiny next to cayde but knowing he’s voiced by the freaking Master of masters he’s way above Cayde (sry Cayde) XD.

  • @Skellington77
    @Skellington773 жыл бұрын

    Byf describing how FWC is slowly building a rebellion against the last tower *me looking at his FWC branded gun* 👀

  • @godknightomega

    @godknightomega

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Skellington Lakshmi-2: We gave you that gun! You DARE turn it on us!? Guardians: Irony is one of life greatest things, isn't it!?

  • @librainiacgame613

    @librainiacgame613

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@godknightomega Former FWC Guardians (like myself): "We prepare for the inevitable war, Lakshmi."

  • @wattsactingdoc

    @wattsactingdoc

    3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who has been a part of FWC since vanilla D1, I’m appalled with how Lakshmi is leading the war cult. I refuse to use or wear war cult colors (except the heavy GL ‘cause chain reaction is gg)

  • @trevordillon1921

    @trevordillon1921

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wattsactingdoc Just pick up a crowd pleaser or blast battue

  • @bengale9977

    @bengale9977

    3 жыл бұрын

    Byf: "when I said we need peace with the fallen I meant the fallen in pieces"

  • @MrRuner45
    @MrRuner453 жыл бұрын

    "You cannot ask people to live alongside their monsters!" And somewhere, deep inside Mithrax, something snapped

  • @MrGochira
    @MrGochira3 жыл бұрын

    What these cutscenes have really made me feel more than anything is frustration in our guardian, in them insisting on being a silent observer. We might be the most passive god slayers ever.

  • @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    @gabrielpineirogarcia2078

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mithrax: "In truth, i dont even know if i reached you" Our Guardian: ...

  • @Sepricotaku

    @Sepricotaku

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because not all of us feel the same, your response may differ from mine or from another all together, we are silent because we are the embodiment of the guardians we play, sure for some stuff we were given dialog but for the most part its meant to come from the player. You see it as frustrating, I see it as wise, our actions speak louder than their words.

  • @kutlumzrak2689

    @kutlumzrak2689

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hah, let me introduce you to the one called Warrior of Light ( then Darkness) from FFXIV. THAT is the most passive godslayer.

  • @King_Crimsn
    @King_Crimsn3 жыл бұрын

    I find it interesting how as important our Guardians are, the most interesting of iij interactions are the ones we've been watching. We're watching as the City sorts its problems out with the Eliksni, and we're simply pushing it along bit by bit. We don't actively make our own choices to forge the story. Everything is working itself out as the path of peace bears fruits for the universe. I think it's a pretty interesting concept.

  • @Techhunter_Talon

    @Techhunter_Talon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Makes me wonder how well the Destiny universe would do if it was a game series similar to Mass Effect?

  • @cptTK421

    @cptTK421

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Techhunter_Talon Should Destiny 3 ever happen, they might make that shift; or at least give a Mission A or B, then Ai/Bi, etc. for alternate histories

  • @Spike2276

    @Spike2276

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Eugene Oisten how so? We're literally 7 years old, every single person who's ever had any beef with us has been put down and only allies surround us In contrast to us most of the veterans in the guardian ranks are centuries old and have taken part in the construction and multiple sieges of the City, they are the people we see going through change because they are the ones who need to adapt to the times

  • @evaun1t165

    @evaun1t165

    3 жыл бұрын

    Personally, id like to decide who to help. Like in the season of the drifter when we got to choose between helping the vanguard or the drifter.

  • @Spike2276

    @Spike2276

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@evaun1t165 we don't have much choice here, if we help Lakshmi then we don't get Mithrax's help to stop the endless night I'd like to see another story where we can take sides, but this story doesn't work if we kick the Eliksni out

  • @adenweinberg8784
    @adenweinberg87843 жыл бұрын

    There is a bit a dialog in override where ikora tells Mithrax that that story really affected Saint

  • @majditon

    @majditon

    3 жыл бұрын

    And now saint shows more respeckt to mithrax in override dialogs

  • @teldarin7557
    @teldarin75573 жыл бұрын

    That's how things go. You are never the villain in your own story, but you are in someone else's. For us Saint was the one who fought back our invaders, for the Elisksni he is a calamity. While I see the House of Light as a group of innocent Eliksni, I still hate the *Fallen* for attacking humanity for centuries. We humans have always suffered from a great weakness. Prejudice. Just because a part of a people is evil doesn't mean all of them are. I love that this season goes into such topics, really makes you reflect on our own world. Great content as always, keep up the great work.

  • @1vandread

    @1vandread

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which species is living on a reservation due to attempted extinction, again? Who are currently still on the verge of extinction? Pretty sure it’s not the Eliksni. Ignore hundreds of fear induced conditioning for pity points. But yeah prejudice human bad, Eliksni who change Houses like socks due to dead genocidal dictator leader, good.

  • @edwinrosario3849

    @edwinrosario3849

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1vandread And which species caused the species currently living on a reservation due to attempted extinction again? Oh yeah, the Darkness which is currently in the damned system. Who has paracausal protectors that can resurrect themselves, has devastated the political systems and leadership of the Fallen due to those constant attacks? Humanity. Who had abandoned the Eliskni in the first place yet for some reason favored Humanity to be gifted those powerful paracausal protectors? The Traveler. Who had lost everything and had to gut their culture in order to survive, try to reclaim what was theirs? The Fallen And the biggest question of them all, WHO is trying to CHANGE ANYTHING?? The Eliskni of House Light. Enough with the attempted extinction crap because we have the literal cause for the collapse of the damned Golden Age right on the doorstep yet constantly cannot get over the fact that the Fallen tried to destroy humanity. Every assault has been crushed, every attack was met with brutal force and destruction, every Kel, Baron and Servitor that attempted to harm the City has bled dearly for that mistake. So, yes, prejudice humans BAD. Eliskni trying to change for the future Good. Does that mean there are not heinous things on both sides? No but people are recognizing that the Fallen of House Light are trying to change and its fools who consistently keeps bringing up, to no one with ironically the very ENTITY THAT CAUSED THE COLLAPSE BEING RIGHT IN THE SYSTEM, that the Fallen tried to exterminate humanity is the reason why things aren't going to change. And its that stupidity that will make everything in the Last City die; Savathun is just going to be oh so happy you are doing her work for her, congratulations.

  • @willwolf8436

    @willwolf8436

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@edwinrosario3849 well said. One side is trying to change and work together, right the wrongs done but the other side (Lakshmi and her ilk) are stoking the flames that can bring that possible future she saw to reality. Self fulling.

  • @willwolf8436

    @willwolf8436

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1vandread honestly humanity is the same then. Had the Arisen, Warlords that did terrible things and now Guardians. What's next in our change up?

  • @Lancersilva
    @Lancersilva3 жыл бұрын

    I said this back when Crow was born, a monster is made when we treat one as such.

  • @godknightomega

    @godknightomega

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the Eliksni's case, they created one simply by not understanding what mercy is.

  • @saidmarin4101

    @saidmarin4101

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or in the Eliksni's case, by invading their homeworld and nearly driving them to extinction.

  • @godknightomega

    @godknightomega

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@saidmarin4101 They were our "monsters" long before Saint-14 even touched their home.

  • @saidmarin4101

    @saidmarin4101

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@godknightomega their home? more like the eliksni invaded earth and nearly drove humanity to extinction, unprovoked. Doesn't excuse the atrocities that the lords did of course, but that has nothing to do with the eliksni invading while pursuing the traveler.

  • @godknightomega

    @godknightomega

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@saidmarin4101 I was referring to the Eliksni?

  • @exostretch7991
    @exostretch79913 жыл бұрын

    The whole "Testing out ghallarhorn on a dreg" trope is really hitting different this season. It's not reasonable to believe that the Ellinksni shouldn't see us as allies after guardians run into their clubs and homes and just torch the place.

  • @reverendray3036
    @reverendray30363 жыл бұрын

    My buddies I play with don’t pay much attention to the lore, but ask me about it since they know I love it. Got myself that Studying emote with the book & now I tell them what Byf and the lore pages I got have to say each weekend. It’s great. Lore Daddy, you’ve made a Lore Boi outta me.

  • @surprizeforyou
    @surprizeforyou3 жыл бұрын

    Bungie really needs to make that monstrous Saint-14 helmet an ornament for the Helm of Saint-14

  • @aterriblesliceoftoast4096

    @aterriblesliceoftoast4096

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I could happily part with silver for

  • @metalhammer303

    @metalhammer303

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hell yes! My sentinel titan NEEDS that ornament for helm of saint 14

  • @hammer9856

    @hammer9856

    3 жыл бұрын

    Won't happen because it's already an exotic..

  • @jhonwicked253

    @jhonwicked253

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or at the very least a mask for the festival of the lost

  • @surprizeforyou

    @surprizeforyou

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hammer9856 an ornament FOR the exotic....

  • @azureskyshadow8509
    @azureskyshadow85093 жыл бұрын

    It's like the old saying, "someone's hero is another person's monster"

  • @ohword620
    @ohword6203 жыл бұрын

    Saint: you cannot ask people to live alongside their monsters Mithrax: oh fr? deadass? just like that?

  • @ibrahermisleem2756
    @ibrahermisleem27563 жыл бұрын

    I was actually surprised by lord shaxx reaction but after reading the rest of the lore it made sense I'm glad to see that lord shaxx understood misraks

  • @ruby_loveyt

    @ruby_loveyt

    3 жыл бұрын

    If anyone is to come to terms earliest out of the guardians (except the Drifter of course), it would be Shaxx. Next to Saladin as one of the oldest guardians of the Tower.

  • @jellybackjoe
    @jellybackjoe3 жыл бұрын

    “Demanding manifestation” is such a raw way to describe an emotion. Such good writing

  • @T0p0ftheM0untain
    @T0p0ftheM0untain3 жыл бұрын

    Mithrax: You're literal undead juggernauts, calling us monsters?

  • @jloats1110

    @jloats1110

    3 жыл бұрын

    They enacted a genocide against humanity. Yes, they were monsters.

  • @andychavez652

    @andychavez652

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jloats1110 well we’ve done the same to every other race. So have the other races. Tis but a means of survival. In the end, those who survive are monsters.

  • @elitegamer9310

    @elitegamer9310

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andychavez652 I guess the Darkness has a point.

  • @productofmud7636

    @productofmud7636

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elitegamer9310 no?

  • @waffleczar7781

    @waffleczar7781

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elitegamer9310 no the Darkness believes we need to just give in to our core nature, those who kill are killers and will always be, forgiveness is a distraction that has no purpose in life or death. It talks so calm and acutely to make us believe it, the darkness doesn’t want us to try to be anything but what we are. Cowards, killers, fools. The traveler gave us some much because it wants us to be more then what we are at base level to be more, forgive, have hope

  • @Barewell
    @Barewell3 жыл бұрын

    This gave me goosebumps they way Mithrax drops the mic on Saint. Love both characters so much and they way Bungie is showing us fallen POV on us and the traveler. I’m actually reading in game lore a lot this season. Can’t wait to get the new pages each week. I’ve always loved destiny lore but this is my favorite story content since season of dawn.

  • @hiunaut2833
    @hiunaut28333 жыл бұрын

    That Survivor's Epitaph has to be my favorite lore piece in a while, it such a mixed feeling knowing that these two characters that I adore in Destiny have their own share of crimes, which always loops to a favorite quote of mine. “What is better: to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?” Destiny 2 has its up and down as we all know and way too familiar with, but stories like these is why I keep coming to the game, even if they are just text in a gun that I probably won't ever use.

  • @MasterRoyalTea
    @MasterRoyalTea3 жыл бұрын

    "...the last glimpse of sunlight descended beyond the horizon." How exactly is there a sunset during an endless night?

  • @D.A.R.C.I.

    @D.A.R.C.I.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah like wait hang on a fucking second?? like this would suggest that this conversation took place before the vex placed the endless night.

  • @MasterRoyalTea

    @MasterRoyalTea

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@D.A.R.C.I. I'd assume its just a continuity error and not some grand implication about Shaxx and Mithrax. Just found it odd haha

  • @LordSaladbar1

    @LordSaladbar1

    3 жыл бұрын

    *Glitch in the vex simulation detected*

  • @D.A.R.C.I.

    @D.A.R.C.I.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MasterRoyalTea im more implying that Mithrax has been to the tower before the endless night, possibly for a meeting with Ikora, and a select few guardians noticed

  • @sycua42

    @sycua42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@D.A.R.C.I. post-almighty, though.

  • @andychavez652
    @andychavez6523 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for giving us the Story of Destiny explained since the days of Destiny 1!

  • @ProdByAD21
    @ProdByAD213 жыл бұрын

    I was shocked when it played. Cutscenes in destiny that aren’t in the first or last mission?? Nice

  • @CaseyHarMegiddo
    @CaseyHarMegiddo3 жыл бұрын

    It's an interesting path Bungie has the narrative on. I appreciate it a lot. I also really like how D1 had all these stories and lore snippets of our "heroes" slaying scores upon scores of enemies. The tales we tell so that others won't be. Tales that emphasis heroism, courage, determination. Just ignore the blood spilled along the way, and don't ask the other side what they think of our heroes.

  • @icarusXIV
    @icarusXIV3 жыл бұрын

    "Our Ether tanks, smashed!" I'm just gonna go on a limb here and say that since that happened we may be in timelines 3, and 6 shown in the lore of Stochastic Variable, along with timelines 6 and 5 of Far Future. They read as follows: "3 : the Last City : radioactive dust : Dark growths in the ruins: where is the Traveler : mutated Ghosts- " "6: the Eliksni Quarter : a crackling portal : snipers fire down : blood runs in the gutter : an Ether tank explodes : the Endless Night : Asher speaks : those FWC traitors-" Far future "6 : the Tower is still : funeral procession : Zavala dies : Zavala dies : Zavala dies : candles : quiet argument : how did they get in : the Witch Queen flees : they are coming-" "5: the Tower molders : the Hive Witch's worm : Ghosts at war : a Voice behind the Darkness : the Traveler abandoned us : Taken Cabal : a new Hive rejoices- " And, maybe timelines 3 and 6 have been mixed together with the last sentences of timeline 6 and 5 of the far future lore, making an 8th timeline, as follows: *"8 : the Last City : a crackling portal : Dark growths in the ruins : snipers fire down : an Ether tank explodes : blood runs in the gutter : mutated Ghosts : the Endless Night : where is the Traveler : a new Hive rejoices : they are coming --"* Dark growths in the ruins is the glykon along with mutated ghosts, and "snipers fire down/an Ether tank explodes/blood runs in the gutter" is referencing to how we cleared out the glykon. "where is the Traveler" is referencing to how it seems like the traveler is doing nothing to help against the endless night. "They are coming" is referencing to how the hive are coming (cough cough witch queen cough cough) soon. Again, take this with a grain of salt, because these are just assumptions. Thanks!

  • @collinfrye9555

    @collinfrye9555

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget Zavala’s death is predicted in three separate story elements which lines up nicely with timeline 6 on far future

  • @icarusXIV

    @icarusXIV

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@collinfrye9555 Yeah

  • @Lamonticus

    @Lamonticus

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't see how "snipers fire down/an Ether tank explodes/blood runs in the gutter" is a reference to how we cleared out the Glykon unless I forgot some details in the Presage mission. Think that might be referencing the events that are unfolding now in-game which might lead up to a riot in the Last City.

  • @garrusvakarian4300

    @garrusvakarian4300

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Lamonticus I think you're on to something there. During the seasonal challenge where you have to listen to all the eliksni quarter recordings, Ido (or however you spell her name idk ) comments on how there are last city snipers constantly monitoring the settlement. Maybe FWC bribes one of the snipers into firing or possibly like you said, a riot occurs and...well...bad stuff happens.

  • @Zaciriya
    @Zaciriya3 жыл бұрын

    "You cannot kill hate with hate, only love can do that." -Martin Luther King Jr.

  • @ms.chomper5024

    @ms.chomper5024

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish people could use that quote in real life. I like this season since it teaches how just because people have done wrong in the past, it doesn't justify the hatred of the people who are innocent.

  • @RohanSpartin

    @RohanSpartin

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I kill a killer, the number of killers remains the same. That's why I break out Sweet Business and go to town on these invading bastards.

  • @LulutheJester

    @LulutheJester

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RohanSpartin exactly. "Double down" -Shaxx

  • @DontPetMyGoat

    @DontPetMyGoat

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LulutheJester Triple down

  • @arbalest327

    @arbalest327

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ms.chomper5024 damn son, that's hard facts. People shouldn't be hated on for something they can't change, or hated at all, hating only breeds more, never stop it.

  • @LordRedfern
    @LordRedfern3 жыл бұрын

    Man this was heavy, that moment with Shaxx and Mithrax in the tower is very powerful, you can see the interaction in your mind, you can feel the emotions. And when Shaxx leaves, it is like both him and Mithrax have an understanding, they are both the same in so many ways, they have both done monstrous things, but now moving forward maybe we can all come together to fight the real monsters on our doorstep

  • @Danger_Noodle
    @Danger_Noodle3 жыл бұрын

    The survivor's epitaph lore tab says they watched the last bit of sunlight descend beyond the horizon, but i thought the city was in an endless night???

  • @tsunertoo9149

    @tsunertoo9149

    3 жыл бұрын

    Similar to thick clouds you might still be able to barely see the sun passing over the edge.

  • @trevordillon1921

    @trevordillon1921

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting oversight, or the lore takes place later.

  • @thesilliestgoose5990
    @thesilliestgoose59903 жыл бұрын

    D2 Year 4 might be Year of the Competent and well-crafted Storytelling

  • @travisbishop782

    @travisbishop782

    3 жыл бұрын

    Took them long enough.

  • @Monarch_Prime

    @Monarch_Prime

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh just wait until year 5 lol This is hopefully gonna get better.

  • @SparkyShepard
    @SparkyShepard3 жыл бұрын

    I can't stop laughing over the fact that Shaxx asked "Do you know how many Fallen I killed there?" and then said "All of them died afraid." Yes Shaxx. When you kill someone,they die.

  • @Brimst0ne6800

    @Brimst0ne6800

    3 жыл бұрын

    “People die when they’re killed!”

  • @silentd_6
    @silentd_63 жыл бұрын

    Crazy hope, but I would love to see Mithrax become the new speaker. It would show the Eliksni that the traveler still cares for their kind and show humans that the Eliksni can be good as well. Think the humans and Eliksni will join forces to fight the darkness

  • @travisbishop782

    @travisbishop782

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be awesome. And the utter destruction of FWC, and the rest of the factions.

  • @J-manli

    @J-manli

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@travisbishop782 Well (as far as we know) the factions' problems now are their leaders. Lakshmi and Hideo are in the coup for personal power and both are in the process of persuading Jalaal.

  • @thetuerk
    @thetuerk3 жыл бұрын

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH the cutscene was made OH SO MUCH BETTER by knowing Saint-14 was THERE to listen to Mithrax!

  • @williamsmock5500
    @williamsmock55003 жыл бұрын

    The Eliksni have killed thousands over the centuries and humanity has done the same. Both species are victims of the darkness and warriors. The sooner the city can recognize the similarities between each other, the sooner we can end the fear and hatred between each other.

  • @FoehnAlkaiser

    @FoehnAlkaiser

    3 жыл бұрын

    They came to our world. They broke our species and they ate our children. They all need to die

  • @aaronforsyth3486

    @aaronforsyth3486

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoehnAlkaiser dude our guys have ate them too. Plus we also have no idea how it all as a whole started it’s been a grudge war for that long. However in war killing is killing there is no right to kill everyone is a murderer in the end no matter how just the cause

  • @bengale9977

    @bengale9977

    3 жыл бұрын

    The fallen aren't warriors. The Cabal are warriors. They have honour and codes and once beaten in battle can be bargained with confidence that they will keep their word. The fallen are proven oath breaker and are more akin to a criminal thug.

  • @FoehnAlkaiser

    @FoehnAlkaiser

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bengale9977 and they’re sentiophages. They came to Earth and devoured the lightless. If we lost the battle of six fronts there wouldn’t be a Last City

  • @Storse

    @Storse

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoehnAlkaiser they? as in all eliksni? isnt that literally racism? grouping up an entire group of people into a singular being and blaming everyone for the actions of few? do you realize how stupid you sound right now?

  • @SampatK164
    @SampatK1643 жыл бұрын

    This video and its contents, just this whole season in general, is something all people need to hear. Not just Destiny players. Mercy, empathy, understanding. Those are key. Not hatred, stereotyping and xenophobia. If Lord Shaxx can take a moment and reflect on it, we all can.

  • @azimuth6855
    @azimuth68553 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see more of Saint's reaction to Misraak's story about him!

  • @spaxxor
    @spaxxor3 жыл бұрын

    that cutscene still gives me chills... I think it'll give me chills every time I see it.

  • @EarCat
    @EarCat3 жыл бұрын

    This is simply a matter of perspective, regrettably.

  • @innawoodsbritbong253
    @innawoodsbritbong2533 жыл бұрын

    Why yes, I am a walking terror of the night for every filthy xeno that dares defile our worlds. Ave Imperator

  • @1vandread

    @1vandread

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imperator Vult!

  • @TheRedThirst

    @TheRedThirst

    3 жыл бұрын

    PURGE THE XENOS

  • @anamewithnoface1330

    @anamewithnoface1330

    3 жыл бұрын

    My Armor is contempt, My Shield is Disgust, my blade is hatred. In his name, Let none survive.

  • @fridriksoebech4330
    @fridriksoebech43303 жыл бұрын

    Lovin the lore this season. Vids really help with things i might have missed. Keep on the awesome vids man ♥️

  • @shadowtear101
    @shadowtear1013 жыл бұрын

    One of my most favorite parts about the cutscene is how Mithrax referred to the Ward of Dawn as a "foul shell"

  • @MatthewKHale
    @MatthewKHale3 жыл бұрын

    "They drew first blood" - Frank Reynolds

  • @pottedrodenttube
    @pottedrodenttube3 жыл бұрын

    This season's storyline is great.

  • @bestworst1979
    @bestworst19793 жыл бұрын

    I was mesmerized by the vid not only the game dialogue but by yours as well byf great vid ty

  • @barryslattery563
    @barryslattery5633 жыл бұрын

    I always like hearing Byf lore videos

  • @juanreborn6245
    @juanreborn62453 жыл бұрын

    Lore army assemble! Another great video Byf, keep up the great content!

  • @TheQuyman
    @TheQuyman3 жыл бұрын

    "We defended ourselves from extension, now that we have the upper hand you pretend to be the victim"

  • @alanwake8937
    @alanwake89373 жыл бұрын

    Beautifully done, as always.

  • @StrengthandVitality
    @StrengthandVitality3 жыл бұрын

    I never get tired of your content. Thank you!

  • @ammarose9742
    @ammarose97423 жыл бұрын

    I hurt for the House of Light, I can't help but want to side with them.

  • @Honed-

    @Honed-

    3 жыл бұрын

    savathoon is messing with everyone tho.

  • @trevordillon1921

    @trevordillon1921

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been on board long before this season. Like, he basically saved the city by informing us about siviks, and he even let us keep outbreak, which may well be a holy relic

  • @ammarose9742

    @ammarose9742

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trevordillon1921 me too, it's just the feels I'm feeling for the HoL is just so strong

  • @ahskoraksrefugee8679

    @ahskoraksrefugee8679

    3 жыл бұрын

    When I came here, I did not expect so many guardians to be so kind to us. You have our gratitude.

  • @SilverSpectre90
    @SilverSpectre903 жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile: Savathun's return is inevitable The Last City and the Vanguard have heard the song Top Ranking Members are also affected The House of Light will be the scapegoat for a Coup inside the Last City by the hands of the FWC In the end, The Witch Queen will have her revenge The Season of the Witch/Queen is coming Be ready

  • @wattsactingdoc

    @wattsactingdoc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think Savathûn is masquerading as Osiris. Anyone else find it odd how when he came back to the tower, he was skulking in the shadows? ALSO, there is dialogue where Misraaks proposes all races, including hive, standing against the darkness, United. Osiris then asks: “You would join forces with Savathûn?”, and the dialogue ends. No quips, no explaining why that’s a bad idea… I’m telling y’all, Savathûn is wearing his skin!

  • @elitegamer9310

    @elitegamer9310

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wattsactingdoc Osiris has been sus as of late. Previously, I believed that his change in behavior was because of Sagira's death, but now it feels like Osiris has agendas of his own. He mentions that he gains a lot of information whenever we complete Override, he talks Saladin out from meeting with Zavala, and he doesn't want Mithrax to lend a hand with FWC's device. He explains that Lakshmi-2 would not be happy with the House of Light tinkering with the Device, and it would only make things worse. It's just the way he responded to it felt off. About every scene with Osiris in it has the air of secrecy.

  • @kutlumzrak2689

    @kutlumzrak2689

    3 жыл бұрын

    Season 15 is gonna be the season of the Wish, mark my words.

  • @Ednoxious1
    @Ednoxious13 жыл бұрын

    That self reflection be hittin different!! Love your content bruh! 🙏🏾

  • @calebpatton3238
    @calebpatton32383 жыл бұрын

    This is the best place for destiny lore and information by far, love watching these videos! Also loved the paraphrased quote at the end from the "Hearafter" exotic, easily one of my favorite quotes from destiny's universe.

  • @fen2207
    @fen22073 жыл бұрын

    Yo in the tower you can hear people say stop someone’s watching and it’s a bomb it doesn’t have to be maneuverable don’t know if that was always idle voice lines or not thought it was interesting

  • @reverendray3036
    @reverendray30363 жыл бұрын

    I just want to say that Saint not responding to Mithrax is a really weird choice writing-wise. An apology, maybe an excuse, Even just a quick walk away into a teleport; Anything would have made more sense to me than the two of them Silently looking at each other after that cut scene.

  • @sebastianturner2458

    @sebastianturner2458

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd bet that that was a casualty of finite dev time. Seems like an obvious thing to fix, but not a terribly important one, so it probably slipped through the cracks. Was kinda awkward though.

  • @reverendray3036

    @reverendray3036

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sebastianturner2458 that’s the same line of thinking I had; the cutscene and story so far this whole season has been really enjoyable. One little beat like that sticks out as weird, but the limited time for these things is being well spent. I dig it.

  • @nycto5335

    @nycto5335

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I thought the whole encounter was bugged until I checked online and everyone had Saint do nothing after the scene

  • @sebastianturner2458

    @sebastianturner2458

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if it was originally supposed to put you back in orbit but then changed to allow you to scan the new interactive points in the area.

  • @matthias_245
    @matthias_2453 жыл бұрын

    This is one of your best videos yet!

  • @michaellove2249
    @michaellove22493 жыл бұрын

    Byf, I really like your channel. You manage to find that moral lesson even in every lore drop.

  • @jerisj.8971
    @jerisj.89713 жыл бұрын

    This content and the topic itself is very well done and eye opening... while I've played this games, shifting enemies from each iteration of content...I've wondered if there is in fact, an end. Not simply an end to the game, but really and endpoint for the relentless assault against our "foes". Mithrax and the seasonal content as a whole, has opened the floor to an idea that I always had while playing... what if? What if we were to stop and truly look at the fallen for what they could be... allies...the sheer number of them as a people has been drilling throughout these wars... but could happen between the house of light and the leaders of the city could prove to be the starting point to an alliance. An alliance that is born in mutual pain, regret, but ultimately, empathy and understanding. I just hope that mithrax can live long enough to see this come to fruition.

  • @LoneSilverW0lf

    @LoneSilverW0lf

    3 жыл бұрын

    Given what Savvy has going and the Darkness literally on our doorstep, we’re going to need all the help we can get.

  • @jerisj.8971

    @jerisj.8971

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LoneSilverW0lf I wonder if a late arrival of the cabal is a possibility.

  • @LoneSilverW0lf

    @LoneSilverW0lf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jerisj.8971 it’s very well possible. Caital is smarter than most bosses we’ve dealt with, and the Cabal have a score to settle with the Hive. I can see some kind of a unified force sometime in the future. I just hope we all live to see it.

  • @jerisj.8971

    @jerisj.8971

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LoneSilverW0lf in my ideal destiny universe, we expand to let fallen, and maybe even cabal become a subclass!

  • @LoneSilverW0lf

    @LoneSilverW0lf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jerisj.8971 I’m a Red War vet myself, and I have thought about how having Eliksni and Cabal Lightbearers affect things. The Speaker talked about how it takes ‘devotion, self sacrifice, and death’, but I’ve seen where having a strong soul and being touched by light is all it really needs and those aren’t exclusive to Humanity. So it is possible, but probably unlikely given the sheer amount of work the devs probably had just giving us the three classes. But maybe lore wise seeing a Cabal Titan, a Psion Warlock, and an Eliksni Hunter would make for an interesting group.

  • @M0NKEYSEB
    @M0NKEYSEB3 жыл бұрын

    Mithrax: how many eliksni have you killed. Me: think about riskrunner. That's how many I killed

  • @taylorthomson119
    @taylorthomson1193 жыл бұрын

    Great video and great message!

  • @chrisgoodeaux6191
    @chrisgoodeaux61913 жыл бұрын

    The story master I love when you tell the story! Cheers mate

  • @1vandread
    @1vandread3 жыл бұрын

    Essentially, Saint and Mithrax are both sides “monsters”. Though I’d say Mithrax was more a “monster”than Saint, unless Bungie puts out a lore card detailing Saint murderering defenseless Eliksni in a cage then what Mithrax did while with the Wolves is still far worse. And the whole driving humanity to a point of near extinction is a hot topic that can’t be solved in a few weeks after centuries of conditioning because the Vanguard says, “Be nice for mercy.”, it’s not that easy even if Savathun wasn’t manipulating the City’s fear and paranoia.

  • @aurockson2696
    @aurockson26963 жыл бұрын

    Me in d1 having 100000 servitor kills on Venus from that loot cave... hehehe sorry

  • @c4sualcycl0ps48

    @c4sualcycl0ps48

    3 жыл бұрын

    The one that never got patched because it wasn’t relevant enough. Good times

  • @darthmaul3998
    @darthmaul39983 жыл бұрын

    Playing deconstruction (the music at the very beginning for those of you who don’t know) was so nostalgic. It played very quietly in the background while you were at the tower in destiny 1. I remember many weekend mornings when I would be gearing up for an activity but then get sidetracked and have a sitting circle of many friendly guardians with it playing very softly in the back. Thank you byf

  • @mysteriousjess.
    @mysteriousjess.3 жыл бұрын

    Man I love your content, always a good day when Byf uploads :)

  • @cashusbucks
    @cashusbucks3 жыл бұрын

    I've been telling the story of Saint to a returning D1 vet who's been learning about what he missed during his hiatus... Saints crusades were some of the things I pointed out that made him a legend to us and made him the Greatest Titan who ever lived but this moment has blown me away. Knowing/telling one side of the story and getting such great and haunting perspective from the other side still leaves the mind blown. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 To this seasons Lore!!

  • @lyralince6681
    @lyralince66813 жыл бұрын

    This story speaks so much of own society. This conversation is so important for us to move forward as a species. We have been locked in a prison of bloodshed longer than history itself. The monster is in the eye of the beholder. It is true that violence cannot be erased and should not be forgotten but staying there, in the past it is no way to live. It only creates more division in the future. I'm loving the way the story is being told. You have brilliantly put this together. Thank you. And I sincerely apologize if it is not appropriate to talk about this on this channel.

  • @J-manli

    @J-manli

    3 жыл бұрын

    I honestly believe The overall story of Splicer and Chosen has indirectly acted as a sort of Rorschach Test to the members of our community. Basically the opinions held about the story and the characters can reveal the personal biases one may have in their own life. This is because the themes of Hunt, Chosen, and Splicer ask a (often uncomfortable question) fundamental question: "Can you forgive?" With Hunt it asks if you can forgive an individual who personally wronged you (Crow), in Chosen it asked can you forgive a group who recently wronged you (The Cabal), and now in Splicer it asks can you forgive a group with whom you've had a generational history of bloodshed (The Eliksni). The whole concept of forgiveness has always been a difficult thing for humanity to really grasp, but it is needed to push beyond the hate and violence to pave the way for a less bloody future.

  • @buttdunny692004
    @buttdunny6920043 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video. The stories really give me goosebumps. It almost feels like the story is coming together and bungie are telling an epic tale

  • @sunnyd207
    @sunnyd2073 жыл бұрын

    Great content. I listen to your lore explanations at work like a podcast. Very entertaining :)

  • @lorelock-1253
    @lorelock-12533 жыл бұрын

    I already know we are monsters My friend however doesn't care as long as he has Sweatbusiness

  • @RohanSpartin

    @RohanSpartin

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Business is ALWAYS good.

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