Destiny 2: Let's Talk About The Worst Exotic Weapons

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With so many exotic weapons in the game, some of them are bound to be bad. After a survey was done on reddit, I wanted to dig through the results and see what people were vibing. Bungie has also asked for feedback on underperforming exotics, so I'm using this opportunity to give some of my own. This is not MY list, this list was voted on by over 14,000 people on reddit.
Introduction - 0:00
The Worst 5 - 2:04
The Next Worst 5 - 6:43
The Worst 5 After That - 10:40
And The Next 5 After Those - 14:15
The Best 5 - 17:40
Survey Data: / results_of_the_rdtg_ex...
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  • @derpmanaveragegamer7791
    @derpmanaveragegamer77912 жыл бұрын

    "exotics are meant to be unique" Me: *looks at Coldheart, whos exotic perk is that its a trace rifle*

  • @chriskirkland6976

    @chriskirkland6976

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ice ice baby intensifies

  • @10001vader

    @10001vader

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mangopawsss yeah, it was the first one. back then, trace rifles kinda counted as autos, so it made sense as an exotic

  • @Err_Not_Found

    @Err_Not_Found

    2 жыл бұрын

    "exotics are meant to be unique" also known as : please update/rework fighting lion

  • @kmanalpha453

    @kmanalpha453

    2 жыл бұрын

    MIDA Multi-tool "Is a lightweight" "has radar...which is also on Ace of Spades"

  • @Amongst_The_Stars_Cinema

    @Amongst_The_Stars_Cinema

    2 жыл бұрын

    A relic of the past

  • @Anchor-Supreme
    @Anchor-Supreme3 жыл бұрын

    Jade Rabbit needs a complete rework. The returning ammo is garbage, make it actually good Bungie.

  • @jameswulfgang154

    @jameswulfgang154

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the perk didn't even work for almost a year until Bungie fixed it before Beyond Light came out.

  • @KittyNaptune

    @KittyNaptune

    3 жыл бұрын

    Especially when you keep in mind that Polaris Lance has a better ammo return perk, rewards crits and still sees no play

  • @epicgamerzfail4575

    @epicgamerzfail4575

    3 жыл бұрын

    If jade rabbit could 2 body 1 head in pvp, that'd at least make the chain body to head gimmick not completely useless

  • @meloncholy428

    @meloncholy428

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@epicgamerzfail4575 Naw, it should work like a weird version of rapid hit but for body shots that increased damage.

  • @PLBiohazard

    @PLBiohazard

    3 жыл бұрын

    I completed the "250 kills" catalyst a few months ago. FUN TIME IN CRUCIBLE.

  • @pikeverret8246
    @pikeverret82462 жыл бұрын

    “People don’t like hurting themselves” me purposely taking arc damage so I can proc riskrunners exotic perk:😳 ,sidenote riskrunner is absolutely shreddding in pve as of now especially with the unlimited primary ammo you just absolutely have to take arc damage

  • @NejiLover94

    @NejiLover94

    2 жыл бұрын

    We can be friends xD

  • @ostsmulor

    @ostsmulor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Heads up, if you're facing a striker titan. It takes 3 melees for them to kill you if their first melee is charged, because of riskrunner. I learnt that the hard way. No go and cause chaos

  • @BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989

    @BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989

    2 жыл бұрын

    Riskrunner can absolutely shred through strikes involving Fallen, and can handle Vex strikes pretty well if you can find Radiolaria sources(Pools or suiciders)

  • @NejiLover94

    @NejiLover94

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989 Septic Prime (cannot remember the name my bad) final fight arc will bounce off the shields onto the orbiting balls and it makes me sooooo happy

  • @BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989

    @BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NejiLover94 Devils Lair is one of the weaker of fallen strikes for riskrunner, as it's more of a croud control weapon, and arc damage sources are harder to come by due to the fact that a it partially shares enemy spawns with Hive. Fallen SABER is the best for Riskrunner. The ships weapons deal minimal arc damage meaning Arc conductor is free.

  • @matthewduguay5479
    @matthewduguay54792 жыл бұрын

    “Fusions haven’t been it in pve for a while” this aged like milk

  • @JM-bd4qh

    @JM-bd4qh

    2 жыл бұрын

    How could he have known particle deconstruction was coming

  • @fog117

    @fog117

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JM-bd4qh he couldn’t. Not the point of the comment though.

  • @voidstellar5770

    @voidstellar5770

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ikr

  • @jeffharbaugh1726

    @jeffharbaugh1726

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used merciless when the very first raid came out for dogs

  • @ShadowNova300

    @ShadowNova300

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffharbaugh1726 Everyone did.

  • @e115mastery
    @e115mastery3 жыл бұрын

    The worst part about this is that most of the 'cool idea' exotics are just trash in practical usage.

  • @xero1782

    @xero1782

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great idea! Down right terrible execution

  • @Middle6Age6Warr6

    @Middle6Age6Warr6

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ruinous Effigy was great before they nerfed it after 3 months of release.

  • @epicgamerzfail4575

    @epicgamerzfail4575

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @will9709

    @will9709

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Middle6Age6Warr6 why’d they nerf?

  • @Middle6Age6Warr6

    @Middle6Age6Warr6

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@will9709 the drain was too much dps and healing, at least in their eyes, now it's just a right click exotic

  • @mango2538
    @mango25383 жыл бұрын

    His rant on Jade rabbit is actually hilarious.

  • @carlosflores4179

    @carlosflores4179

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love jade rabbit but it has nothing exotic about it

  • @hillieo9760

    @hillieo9760

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carlosflores4179 mm needs to get crit damage buff to make it special like DMT and hawkmoon or another exotic trick such as a 3x dam buff you can activate like the terrabah by body shots… dont know actually how fair thatll be. Jade rabbits pretty cool though regardless but yea needs an unique buff

  • @marinervalley1588

    @marinervalley1588

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can tell he wanted to use profanity

  • @SylviaAdamsMusic

    @SylviaAdamsMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hillieo9760 playing devils advocate, as someone who really enjoys using Jade Rabbit in PvP and personally felt it could hold it's own against 120s pre nerf range nerf decently enough. I do slightly fear that making it's damage bonus come from crits could make it oppressive. But then again you love to see it.

  • @mango2538

    @mango2538

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carlosflores4179 if a damage increase was given more on the level of hawkmoon… it could be great.

  • @bluesimine2023
    @bluesimine20232 жыл бұрын

    Everyone: "You should be using Exotics for their perks and to abuse the current meta in PvP and PvE" Me: *Uses an Exotic just because it looks cool*

  • @burryeezy8837

    @burryeezy8837

    2 жыл бұрын

    *Me still using Monte Carlo*

  • @Idkmanlemmeedit

    @Idkmanlemmeedit

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@burryeezy8837 Monte Carlo gang

  • @rattles8789

    @rattles8789

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lumina gang

  • @abduiahihussein7051

    @abduiahihussein7051

    2 жыл бұрын

    Outbreak gang

  • @sebastianrodriguez8992

    @sebastianrodriguez8992

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@burryeezy8837 I mean it's a nice gun and fun for melee set ups

  • @raulrodriguez2309
    @raulrodriguez23092 жыл бұрын

    Drifter: “You’re being invaded! Find them before they find y-“ *insta killed by sleeper simulant” God I hated Gambit😂

  • @ChiodosBlowsDogs

    @ChiodosBlowsDogs

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just hate gambit 😂. Mostly because, of the Drifter, I just hate him; he reminds me of a guy who was in my year all through elementary, middle and high school who wanted to be a poor man's rogue-like Chuck Norris looking martial arts master. When I hear the drifter speak I want to hide my face in a paper bag because, I'm getting so much second hand embarrassment. He was the kind of guy who tried to give himself edgy nicknames and then tried to convince us other people gave them to him.

  • @ZacGames3

    @ZacGames3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Anoneemus Noename Gamemode of it's time. It sucks now because of EoT and Truth and Sleeper, Lorentz, etc. It was great in the beta and during it's launch.

  • @Jammy-James2

    @Jammy-James2

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love it but I hate it, I love the drifter but I hate rocket launchers. I swear I'll invade for like a second and some guy respawns behind me and shoves gjallarhorn where the sun don't shine

  • @hellbat1339

    @hellbat1339

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZacGames3 😳Sleeper's my go-to invasion weapon, either that or ager's scepter 😳

  • @friccle_

    @friccle_

    Жыл бұрын

    I love the actual pve part but having to deal with other people while fighting a shit ton of enemies, and that they can reset the bosses fucking health from nothing to full by killing 2 people is just bulshit

  • @potatoaccuracy1276
    @potatoaccuracy12763 жыл бұрын

    “We have adored and cloudstrike as arc sniper options right now” Poor Borealis

  • @JManners10

    @JManners10

    3 жыл бұрын

    Adored seems to be the only sniper I can get along with... Most of them zoom too close for the destiny maps or are too clunky for me to use

  • @elitejackal3439

    @elitejackal3439

    3 жыл бұрын

    Borealis is highly underrated! When it is honestly the best triple archetype Sniper in the entire game! Cloudstrike was cool at first but it’s boring to use and I’d take Borealis into a GM over the the Cloudstrike and day of the week!

  • @NexusKirin

    @NexusKirin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elitejackal3439 Borealis is ridiculous in match game ngl

  • @elitejackal3439

    @elitejackal3439

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NexusKirin I know! Why everyone loves Adored, Cloudstrike, and these other snipers is beyond me! It’s like the Destiny community retarded as fuck over the past 2 years.

  • @thegildedrat7052

    @thegildedrat7052

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elitejackal3439 because I your in a gm you dont need a single guy with all elements you are supposed to be a team and share the load. It's not us being retarded its just how the activity is making players adapt to the situation

  • @benacales409
    @benacales4093 жыл бұрын

    I still think arbalest needs antibarrier. It's whole thing is that it doesn't give crap about shields, yet it can't shoot through anti-barrier. I would love to use it if it could deal with a champion type.

  • @epicgamerzfail4575

    @epicgamerzfail4575

    3 жыл бұрын

    They gave bastion unstoppable since it also was suppose to be a "fuck shields" kinda weapon before they changed it. I wish arbalest got similar treatment

  • @TheFirstCurse1

    @TheFirstCurse1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you know it's only a FUCKING RAILGUN.

  • @HyPNoTiKx

    @HyPNoTiKx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea I agree, I think there's a ton of old exotics that could use that treatment, I'd definitely rock something like the Suros Regime a lot more if it had innate anti-barrier or overload rounds.

  • @cookman202

    @cookman202

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too I’ve been thinking/ preaching this

  • @user-lv8dn8gw9z

    @user-lv8dn8gw9z

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ye I always imagined since they added the champ mods they could with adding them to some exotics (although not all cuz that would be broken and possibly retarded)

  • @Mad_Alyx
    @Mad_Alyx2 жыл бұрын

    I know that Leviathan’s Breath is a meme but I use it pretty exclusively and love it. It’s also hilarious when I point blank an invader right in the face in gambit!

  • @logandrake1616

    @logandrake1616

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same. I do the same thing while I'm invading

  • @sircuffington
    @sircuffington2 жыл бұрын

    Skyburners oath is one of my favorites to just braindead hipfire everything.

  • @x-ler2066

    @x-ler2066

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, i dont know why people hate it, its one of my fav guns

  • @egorsdeimos3523

    @egorsdeimos3523

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@x-ler2066 it’s not even a bad gun, it’s catalyst is perfect for what it does and it’s dummy cracked against cabal. Honestly don’t know why people don’t pair it with solar buff gear

  • @silverbloodborne9495

    @silverbloodborne9495

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have four favorite Monteo Carol Crimson hand Cannon Skybunnees oath Sweet business

  • @ericjhughes3527

    @ericjhughes3527

    2 жыл бұрын

    Skyburners is great, esp on solar cabal strikes.

  • @bruhmomentum8302

    @bruhmomentum8302

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its not bad, I’ve gotten quite some kills with it

  • @FalloutPlays
    @FalloutPlays3 жыл бұрын

    "HOW IS _____ A BAD EXOTIC?? I ONCE SAW (professional pvp streamer who plays 12 hours per day) DROP BACK TO BACK WE-RANS WITH THAT WEAPON IN A QUICKPLAY LOBBY. UNSUBBING"

  • @contriti_on

    @contriti_on

    3 жыл бұрын

    borger

  • @knalb_

    @knalb_

    3 жыл бұрын

    IKR SKYBURNERS IS SO META

  • @kagekitsune98_56

    @kagekitsune98_56

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@knalb_ i slay with it

  • @julianfriske151

    @julianfriske151

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a divinity man myself tbh

  • @Ghost_Toast5000

    @Ghost_Toast5000

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey its the ridge wallet guy

  • @ForeverLaxx
    @ForeverLaxx3 жыл бұрын

    There are only two times I use Salvation's Grip. The first, and primary reason, is to break those Darkness triangles to start an Aspect quest. The other is to make platforms to get outside the map.

  • @Cocoauri

    @Cocoauri

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've also only used it for gatekeeper triumph where you have to kill the minotaurs with the super relic. Very niche still

  • @DarkChibiWeebie

    @DarkChibiWeebie

    3 жыл бұрын

    tbh if it got a catalyse that made it have the two other types of genades but special and maybe more powerful slightly just so it fits well as a exotic

  • @Ghost_Toast5000

    @Ghost_Toast5000

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ngl, I did that too

  • @TheAsylumCat

    @TheAsylumCat

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's about it. Utilities are not bad but they certainly are not flashy or direct. Darci is also a utilitie weapon in that you can use it as a meter stick.

  • @flatpepsi

    @flatpepsi

    2 жыл бұрын

    it's literally the gloo gun from Prey lol

  • @internettroll1324
    @internettroll13242 жыл бұрын

    I personally love Malfeasence, it's a very balanced hand cannon, pretty fast firing but not as high damage as a normal hand cannon, very balanced in pvp and still amazing in pve

  • @adamray2305

    @adamray2305

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used malfeasance the whole time I was doing the quest line for Lunas howl. Then when I finally got Lunas, they nerfed the shit outta it a week after. Now, you can literally just go buy Lunas or Not forgotten.

  • @soolio9795

    @soolio9795

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adamray2305 I went out of my way to get malfeasance and it’s actually a really good dps weapon. For pve that is.

  • @adamray2305

    @adamray2305

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@soolio9795 I used it a lot because the recoil was easier for me to manage the 30 shots needed for a kill in pvp

  • @soolio9795

    @soolio9795

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adamray2305 survivors epitaph is a good alternative bc it hits harder and the recoil is just as manageable

  • @adamray2305

    @adamray2305

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@soolio9795 if I ever play pvp again, I'll look into getting that

  • @lightningstrike9876
    @lightningstrike98762 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I never really touched Merciless in the time between Year 1 of Destiny 2 and Season 15, so I never even realized they moved it from the heavy slot to the special slot. Honestly though, I think they should move it back to the heavy. Its perk is clearly meant to have the player focused on a single target so you can dump your whole mag in there, taking advantage of the ramping charge speed to skyrocket your dps, but with Special Weapon tier damage it just doesn't feel powerful enough to warrant its use. Set it back to a heavy weapon with proper damage numbers to compensate and I think you'll see people's opinion of the gun improve significantly.

  • @MrMiniman629
    @MrMiniman6293 жыл бұрын

    I main malfeasance hahaha its so satisfying when guardians feel "safe" cause I'm hitting them with a hand cannon from long range... then all of a sudden they don't exist anymore

  • @dertlash

    @dertlash

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Malfeasance is a great exotic. Still a great counter to roaming supers. And before the stasis nerf. Hedrons gave you infinite uptime on a DMG boost. 180 rpm handcannons are godly when they get kill clip/or any DMG buff bring their ttk down to some of the fastest. Higher mag size for them too and great stability 3 taps for days and super counter if you're charged with light or in a

  • @RyuujinLetum

    @RyuujinLetum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here lol. I can't change my exotic. I love the gun so much

  • @sw33tm3

    @sw33tm3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also malfeasance being a primary ammo gun, it slaps in gambit.

  • @frankiechan9651

    @frankiechan9651

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder for Malfy - if you keep damage etc the same but upped the fire rate what that might do for it's usage. a 190/200 rpm.

  • @lastwymsi

    @lastwymsi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@frankiechan9651 if it went 200 rmp, I'd frickin go wild. It's allready one of my 2 favorite handcannons.

  • @jhalilxvii
    @jhalilxvii3 жыл бұрын

    I'd use Darci and Queenbreaker PvP in a heartbeat if they were special lol.

  • @willyd._7926

    @willyd._7926

    3 жыл бұрын

    especially Darci

  • @naderghuloom8075

    @naderghuloom8075

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not sure queenbreakers will come back as a special due to its history back in d1

  • @epicgamerzfail4575

    @epicgamerzfail4575

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@naderghuloom8075 uh, qbb was never broken in d1

  • @epicgamerzfail4575

    @epicgamerzfail4575

    3 жыл бұрын

    YES! Darci was good when everything was a heavy weapon. Linears in general aren't that worthy of being a heavy, and qbb barely does anything exotic

  • @Energumenus

    @Energumenus

    3 жыл бұрын

    If qb was a special weapon like it was back in d1 (or like arbalest) I'd use the hell out of it

  • @eWayxREAPzzz
    @eWayxREAPzzz2 жыл бұрын

    I will say about Borealis, I had one sitting in my vault from when I first played D2 and having a multi-damage type sniper available when shield match is so common in the mid-higher tier weekly activities was a blessing leveling up.

  • @SirRazzy
    @SirRazzy2 жыл бұрын

    I remember back in D1 Queenbreaker was my go to exotic for trials as i was pretty decent with it. Moving it to the heavy slot just killed any reason to use it for me.

  • @TheNexan_
    @TheNexan_3 жыл бұрын

    Remember when Merciless was a DPS powerhouse? Good times

  • @justaguybeingadude9314

    @justaguybeingadude9314

    3 жыл бұрын

    It uh... still is?!

  • @johnnyrae6448

    @johnnyrae6448

    3 жыл бұрын

    After the lunafaction nerf it hasnt been used nearly as much

  • @mrodrig8611

    @mrodrig8611

    3 жыл бұрын

    Back when Sealed Ahamkara's grasp would continually reload weapons with Mid Tree Gunslinger, Merciless definitely was a DPS monster.

  • @veryfunclub

    @veryfunclub

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s crazy in PvP with the masterwork

  • @RiseOfMusic

    @RiseOfMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Merciless is top tier right now

  • @flagmuffin1221
    @flagmuffin12213 жыл бұрын

    Coldheart needs an actual intrinsic perk. Currently it's literally "is a trace rifle". We have 5 of them now, that's not a unique intrinsic perk any more.

  • @Gunslinger8912

    @Gunslinger8912

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, we have Stasis now.. change its damage type to Stasis

  • @flagmuffin1221

    @flagmuffin1221

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gunslinger8912 The beam it fires is the antithesis of cold. It's ammo is it's cooling liquid. Changing Coldheart to Stasis makes no sense at even a base level, before you even to get to the fact that the entire design philosophy and lore of the gun would have to be changed. At that point just make a new trace rifle.

  • @Gunslinger8912

    @Gunslinger8912

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@flagmuffin1221 I could not disagree more. Read the lore, it says the ammo DOUBLES as the coolant, not that it only expends coolant after heating. There's nothing that says the beam is hot. It is literally a beam of liquid nitrogen coolant shooting out of it

  • @Gunslinger8912

    @Gunslinger8912

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@flagmuffin1221 dont know where you're coming up with the idea that the lore and the gun philosophy would need to be changed. There is absolutely nothing tying it to Arc energy

  • @Extremexboxplayer

    @Extremexboxplayer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@flagmuffin1221 nah it could 100% be stasis without issue but bungie only had arc in the game at the time so they had to throw it in arc

  • @noahnicorvo7317
    @noahnicorvo73172 жыл бұрын

    Datto: "Malfeasance is one of the worse exotics in the game" Season 15: "Hmm well you see, now we converted it to top tier dps. Is it bad now? :)"

  • @cryouru

    @cryouru

    2 жыл бұрын

    it melts taken bosses like butter

  • @joelrobinson5457

    @joelrobinson5457

    2 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this become outdated as soon as bungie watched the video

  • @kylelopez7631

    @kylelopez7631

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's only good against taken bosses though. We need a catalyst

  • @kurogk4877

    @kurogk4877

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine Mara saying that season 15 part

  • @RurouniHiro

    @RurouniHiro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even before 15, it’s perk works great with any champion mod thats goes to HCs for the season (not sure about barrier)

  • @ThePrelude2life
    @ThePrelude2life2 жыл бұрын

    A great update for Salvations Grip would be to make it a “shotgun” grenade launcher. Instead of shooting 1 stasis crystal It would shoot like 3-5 small ish crystal in some unspecified pattern. But hopefully they don’t change it so I can continue to cheese my way around prophecy and other activities lol

  • @mrdragonart2895
    @mrdragonart28953 жыл бұрын

    There is one exotic that everyone seemed to forget about: Thunderlord

  • @bobbycollins7620

    @bobbycollins7620

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember when it was the only gun I used to dps Calus. I can't believe I foegot about it.

  • @SCRandall

    @SCRandall

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thunderlord's getting a damage buff when they do machine guns, scouts, and hand cannons in one of the next tuning passes, all it needs is a catalyst. It's a workhorse weapon, all it needs is something passive IMO.

  • @lastwymsi

    @lastwymsi

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not bad as far as LMGs go, but it just doesn't warrant using it over heavy hitters.

  • @primalops2096

    @primalops2096

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SCRandall the trinity ghoul is way better then thunderlord it takes primary ammo the Salvagers salvo destroys both those weapons hopefully it can compete after the buff

  • @63Limar

    @63Limar

    3 жыл бұрын

    A mandatory Riven's heart exotic

  • @punishedchad8733
    @punishedchad87333 жыл бұрын

    Make Darci have all 3 champ mods/ammo because it 'finds the enemies weakness and adapts'. It'd still be subpar damage etc but having an exotic heavy that can stun any of the Champs would be very cool. Edit: any of you that think this compromises the Champion system- hahahaha obv you struggle at killing Champs son

  • @EnigmacTheFirst

    @EnigmacTheFirst

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bungie please do this

  • @xredliine7661

    @xredliine7661

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's actually a gigabrain suggestion, I like this

  • @tannernipper3756

    @tannernipper3756

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its a really good idea but i think giving it the champ mods intrinsically seems a little too strong in my opinion. It would be nice to not have to worry about forgetting to put those mods on after loading a GM

  • @bryanchemini6221

    @bryanchemini6221

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tannernipper3756 maybe there could be a Reload mechanic sort of like Lord of wolves or hard light where you have to cycle through what kind of anti-champ it would get?

  • @JonahTwinkletoes

    @JonahTwinkletoes

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bryanchemini6221 yes, your brain is massive bro. Actually a good idea.

  • @kevynspeed
    @kevynspeed2 жыл бұрын

    I can see Salvation's grip getting a rework, maybe add an alt function like "hold down reload" to detonate all stasis structures that the GL made

  • @saucysombra6680
    @saucysombra66802 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to be completely honest, I absolutely love cerberus and I've been using it since it came out, and I find it viable in most situations (yes even at long range) it shreds guardians in pvp and a blast to use In pve, but I'm not gonna lie i don't get alot of use out of the catylist

  • @anash11000

    @anash11000

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree I love Cerberus it is basically a shotgun that is using primary ammo. I do agree the catalyst is kinda meh. After all I only use it for some farther range shots due to it making the spread tighter so each round hits it's mark. For weaker enemies though you wouldn't see me using that firing mode on a boss or something like that. That is just plain dumb due to the slower firing speed you would get shredded. It is a very underrated gun for sure.

  • @Theosyion
    @Theosyion3 жыл бұрын

    Skyburners oath: literally unused for 4 years and completely useless in every activity. Also Bungie: I’m going to ignore that

  • @skyninjaslayer337

    @skyninjaslayer337

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s only good against cabal it is cool but shit in general

  • @xredliine7661

    @xredliine7661

    3 жыл бұрын

    "But it was op in GM Proving Grounds bc you can shoot through two specific bubble shields" - some dumbass, probably

  • @SenrabMJam

    @SenrabMJam

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only reason to ever use skyburner's was to solo one encounter in SoTP, and now that's vaulted

  • @jamessimbolon3887

    @jamessimbolon3887

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope they never buff it though, it’s in the “funny bad” category tbh. Not everything has to be (and can be) good

  • @Technodreamer

    @Technodreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like it :(

  • @peelzboyplays6089
    @peelzboyplays60893 жыл бұрын

    A full fireteam of Rat Kings: "Are we a joke to you?" 🐀 👑

  • @Pocketinfinity2021

    @Pocketinfinity2021

    3 жыл бұрын

    That thing needs a serious rework

  • @kiwisontoast

    @kiwisontoast

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rat king gang

  • @theguywhoguys2350

    @theguywhoguys2350

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Pocketinfinity2021 no

  • @mrs.b0742

    @mrs.b0742

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Pocketinfinity2021 no

  • @richv1nce6473

    @richv1nce6473

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@theguywhoguys2350 yes

  • @cdunlap0008
    @cdunlap00082 жыл бұрын

    Leviathan's Breath and Malfeasance are some of my favorites. And the bow does AOE damage, and so does Malfeasance if you manage to get all the shots off before the enemy dies. Yeah not the best there, but I still enjoy it.

  • @ForTheRebound
    @ForTheRebound Жыл бұрын

    coming back to this video nearly two years later is cool seeing how many of these weapons have been improved. Wish-ender is a great exotic now. Darci is not the greatest, but still decent with the added jolt. Skyburners is the same but with scorch. I Think Queensbreaker is kinda slept on at the moment, the chain bolt is suprisingly good for add clear. Malfeasance stunning unstoppables is neat. Leviathans Breath has probably the biggest turn around, currently being an amazing dps choice. Coldheart generating Ionic traces is cool for arc builds. Jade Rabbit is decent but still a bit wierd and janky, though not as bad as it was. Polaris lance is REALLY good now that the perfect fifth explosion scorches. Merciless is also another slept on dps choice. Lumina is really decent in pvp.

  • @bofa722

    @bofa722

    Жыл бұрын

    Merciless is insane now. There is a reason that is what's used for solo nezarec

  • @octupleye3489
    @octupleye34893 жыл бұрын

    IMO Acrius has been underwhelming since swords swung into relevance. It struggles to compete with them, despite the fact that the Acrius has less reserves and a much higher risk to use. This is especially relevant because it is a raid exotic. These are currently going for a lot of spoils, and the Acrius isn't unique or powerful enough to deserve such a grind. I'd say it needs the radar perk replaced for something tarrabah-esque, which allows the weapon to be a burst dps option, in the same vein as the fourth horseman but as a heavy.

  • @user-lv8dn8gw9z

    @user-lv8dn8gw9z

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ye one of the main things holding acrius back is definitely gonna be the spoils needed. After all, those spoils can be spent better places I.e anarchy if you don't have it, or trying for good rolled guns in vog or dsc

  • @allspice8769

    @allspice8769

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol "swung" into relevance

  • @elliotsmythe9098

    @elliotsmythe9098

    3 жыл бұрын

    Give it 1 - 2 punch

  • @kkLegendG4.

    @kkLegendG4.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah, I say just moved it to the special slot and call it a day. Throw WotW and DARCI there with it.

  • @WeebsUnite

    @WeebsUnite

    3 жыл бұрын

    The grind is fine. It's still a raid exotic that some of us spent tons of time getting. The rest I agree with

  • @Aati_Gumer
    @Aati_Gumer3 жыл бұрын

    Tommy's Matchbook also has a hidden perk that gives it perfect hipfire accuracy. Doesn't make it top tier but it's very fun

  • @BigBoss549

    @BigBoss549

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it does, one of the perks is less damage to yourself if you hipfire and it'd suck not having that lol

  • @cykeok3525

    @cykeok3525

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah.. excellent hipfire accuracy, AND it looks like it has less in-air penalties for hipfire, too!

  • @dafulegend5905

    @dafulegend5905

    3 жыл бұрын

    Give it dmt level hipfire :)

  • @Kazuhira2249

    @Kazuhira2249

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dafulegend5905 more like nerf dmt to tommy level

  • @divinity8815

    @divinity8815

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Kazuhira2249 Best idea ive heard all day

  • @kristianbraun5604
    @kristianbraun560410 ай бұрын

    Happy that a lot of these weapons got big changes and are quite good now. (Malf, salvation, worldine, skyburner, leviathan, acrius, wishender)

  • @comicsams5399
    @comicsams53992 жыл бұрын

    Buff idea for salvations grip. Give it the effect of focusing lens where anything that gets hit by it takes more damage from light based abilities

  • @perezortegavalentin9343
    @perezortegavalentin93433 жыл бұрын

    Datto defending Cerberus for 18 minutes because Danielle has shown him how cool it is

  • @randomguys2

    @randomguys2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alternate take: Because she's standing behind him holding it.

  • @perezortegavalentin9343

    @perezortegavalentin9343

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@randomguys2 This it fellas, the unarguably better version of my comment

  • @emmanuelwil-jeff

    @emmanuelwil-jeff

    3 жыл бұрын

    i use cereberus mainly in pve sometimes pvp and actually just got the catty so I'm just happy datto thinks its good even tho there's a clear bias being his gf likes it bc i was sure he'd knock like everyone i know does to me for using it :P

  • @jkuhl2492

    @jkuhl2492

    3 жыл бұрын

    TBF it is a fantastic auto rifle for things at close/medium range. It's just that that range drops off very quickly.

  • @sebastianturner2458

    @sebastianturner2458

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mained cerberus for a bit back when the catalyst came out, it's super fun at close range.

  • @sanguinius6815
    @sanguinius68153 жыл бұрын

    by now we all know that Jade Rabbits real exotic perk is being a stat monster.

  • @xebolous

    @xebolous

    3 жыл бұрын

    Explain.

  • @SpyingroomXbox

    @SpyingroomXbox

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, lol. It's stats are great but it just feels like a really good normal rifle

  • @and...and..

    @and...and..

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the least interesting exotic type in Destiny...

  • @OoNIGHTWINGoO1

    @OoNIGHTWINGoO1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Someone doesn't have Deadman's I guess ^

  • @SizemoreTV

    @SizemoreTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes like Boolean Gemini

  • @graywatkin8510
    @graywatkin85102 жыл бұрын

    Loved using The Devil You Know in D1, so slick.

  • @firenzarfrenzy4985
    @firenzarfrenzy49852 жыл бұрын

    Jade Rabbit was actually really good… for the 1 mission I used it for Since the seasonal mod was to use a scout rifle to stun barrier champions, it really came in clutch when doing that mission sent to you by Clovis Bray post-beyond light campaign (the one where you traverse freezing platforms and you can killoberloads instead of getting the shelter of the storm buff) Malfeasance looks fun but it’s really a Gambit weapon Haven’t used my coldheart yet Merciless… I just got the catalyst today. It runs more on its intrinsic trait more than the catalyst. It’s cool but very niche (to be used on only bosses) because that’s the only place it’s useful enough to use the exotic trait

  • @jaredcook3376
    @jaredcook33763 жыл бұрын

    Malfeasance needs a catalyst that builds stacks on hits and at like 5 stacks fire a taken spike explosive round that does aoe damage. So at 5 hits the next hit does a taken explosion or something to that effect so it can add clear to some extent along with major and boss damge. Just a quick thought.

  • @themediocrethor

    @themediocrethor

    3 жыл бұрын

    Give it Triple Double. Then it becomes a dps contender.

  • @dankerbell

    @dankerbell

    3 жыл бұрын

    the catalyst already has been datamined and it's just a bigger explosion

  • @ChromeQuake

    @ChromeQuake

    3 жыл бұрын

    But then it will just be a copy-and-paste of polaris lance. I mean polaris sucks and I would love to see malfeasance do the job better, but I doubt bungo will be as hopeful as you bro.

  • @dankerbell

    @dankerbell

    3 жыл бұрын

    it was datamined ages ago btw so who knows when it arrives

  • @MeatSnacks

    @MeatSnacks

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean the whole lore of it is if everyone has one they can out shoot Shin, they should buff its damage and then add a rat king style teamwork buff.

  • @Coming-In-Hot
    @Coming-In-Hot3 жыл бұрын

    "I'll be in the next five weapons, right?"

  • @tghilkrad8012

    @tghilkrad8012

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey don’t be so down. Look on the bright side, energy accelerant gives you some extra power factor

  • @flippercurve5676

    @flippercurve5676

    3 жыл бұрын

    graviton lance might be one of my fav guns

  • @joebenjamin7465

    @joebenjamin7465

    3 жыл бұрын

    Grav lance is unironically a great weapon

  • @flippercurve5676

    @flippercurve5676

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joebenjamin7465 amen

  • @LongDong4Skin

    @LongDong4Skin

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish they would buff the rate of fire, feels like jade rabbit but with a cool explosion perk

  • @Pse-dx1zx
    @Pse-dx1zx2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been a Lumina main since that gun released. It just sounds and feels good to use.

  • @RuanPedro_ThanatosOfDark
    @RuanPedro_ThanatosOfDark2 жыл бұрын

    Great video bro! Keep it going! :D

  • @justachad6494
    @justachad64943 жыл бұрын

    Damn, Datto. Tell us how you really feel about Jade Rabbit lol

  • @PLBiohazard

    @PLBiohazard

    3 жыл бұрын

    That rant was funny. I've always thought the "body shot to gain bonus headshot" was a dumbass mechanic for a scout rifle. Edit : oh yeah, that's the same issue with Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten... Perks that mitigate mediocre accuracy.

  • @Joshhungate

    @Joshhungate

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a trash perk but still one of the best-feeling 150 scouts in the game, with insane aim assist. We just need Equinox back lol.

  • @pluto3194

    @pluto3194

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's legitimately my pick for the worst exotic in the game tbh. The perk sucks because you LOSE DAMAGE for the benefit of not reloading, and if you don't do the perk it's a 150 scout with a 10 round mag.

  • @trustypatches669

    @trustypatches669

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's literally just a legendary 150 scout with really good stats. Definitely my least liked exotic in Destiny as a whole.

  • @pastyman3247

    @pastyman3247

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love the rant about this weapon, whole heartedly agree, always hated it. 🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫

  • @zodiac_211
    @zodiac_2113 жыл бұрын

    I feel like lumina would've had more value if it stayed as a 150

  • @thetwintiger

    @thetwintiger

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed wholeheartedly. If we could somehow trigger the noble rounds like Symmetry changes to seekers, would make it a bit better too. I hate that I can’t hipfire it after getting a noble round.

  • @meloncholy428

    @meloncholy428

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thetwintiger I'd use it if it did this since if does buff the user's damage for a short time.

  • @HighKeyTrash

    @HighKeyTrash

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lumina as a 150 (after the shadow keep precision nerf) would leave red bars with a small amount of HP even with the buff active. The move to a 140 was actually a good thing for Lumina.

  • @PLBiohazard

    @PLBiohazard

    3 жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting if each Noble Charge in your possession would give you +10 Recovery. Also that "hip-fire to Noble shoot" is irritating as hell.

  • @drscout5998

    @drscout5998

    3 жыл бұрын

    in pvp its the lack of icarus grip that makes it not fun

  • @plaz2701
    @plaz27012 жыл бұрын

    I think the big thing holding queenbreaker back is the fact that you need to go into weapon inspection mode to change the scopes. I think, if it were to undergo a buff, that should be changed to a "hold reload" type thing like on Vex mytho to swap the scopes

  • @mjnovah9580
    @mjnovah95802 жыл бұрын

    Leviathans Breath is actually a decent option if you can’t one or even two phase a gm inverted spire. At the bottom platform, it staggers the boss with every shot to keep him from firing and moving around. Obvi not my first choice of heavy, but still good to know if its in a future season again. 👍🏼

  • @Just_Ghost

    @Just_Ghost

    2 жыл бұрын

    leviathans breath is my go to weapon in gambit matches

  • @Bachenaugen
    @Bachenaugen3 жыл бұрын

    I miss the damage Wishender used to do before the nerf. That arrow felt like it had weight.

  • @SizemoreTV

    @SizemoreTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh hell yeah they never should have took it out

  • @jwinturbo

    @jwinturbo

    3 жыл бұрын

    It literally ended wishes now it's just meh.

  • @quill7889

    @quill7889

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wait, when did this happen?

  • @SizemoreTV

    @SizemoreTV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@quill7889 Season of Opulence, Wishender did a massive amount of damage, quadruple of what it does now

  • @whaleindenial1487

    @whaleindenial1487

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fk, I just came back to destiny and was so keen to use my wishender in pvp :’)

  • @sammyflinders
    @sammyflinders3 жыл бұрын

    Last season I used Malfeasance every week for Harbinger, with the Unstoppable Hand Cannon mod and the fact the entire level is Taken enemies it was a fantastic choice. It also made me realize how lovely the gun feels to use. Would really like to see it get a catalyst, if for nothing else but to add orb generation and a kill tracker. Oh, and it's also one of the best looking guns in the game

  • @marther3898

    @marther3898

    3 жыл бұрын

    thats actually pretty clever, i might pull out Malfeasance for the Corrupted Expunge for the giggles. i forget that Taken buff sometimes. Something i found out recently; Crimson with the Overload mod can stun the Champions in 1 trigger pull. It counts each bullet of the 3-round burst together as "sustained fire", so it's basically an instant, fool-proof stun for virtually nothing. I dont see many people on PC taking advantage of it, but Crimson on PC is for Rumble and otherwise just a controller-user gun.

  • @grief6052

    @grief6052

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the catalyst should have an alt-fire where you shoot explosive bullets that deal a bit more damage but less overall damage than the full 5 bullet explosion so the exotic perk can be useful against ads? The main use of a primary is to clear ads, so it would make it a lot better imo

  • @reeidly

    @reeidly

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just wish the quest wasn't bugged

  • @Cruesader
    @Cruesader2 жыл бұрын

    "fusions just haven't been it for a while" is the most ironic thing I've heard in a long time, if only he knew the shit storm coming the next season

  • @ShinSnipes
    @ShinSnipes2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I would like to see this video being done after the December patch but before the next season. A good amount has changed

  • @richardcarson3596
    @richardcarson35963 жыл бұрын

    wait, salvation's grip is for something more than beyond light campaign?

  • @JManners10

    @JManners10

    3 жыл бұрын

    If salvations grip had a damage area like witherhord it might be useful :/

  • @lastwymsi

    @lastwymsi

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can use it with focusing lens to proc stasis as a light class, though now that we have another stasis weapon it's not as good. (Though being able to make free walls is fun somtimes)

  • @selectionn

    @selectionn

    3 жыл бұрын

    pretty sure its also used for getting out of bounds sometimes too, what a *great* weapon...

  • @wood5596

    @wood5596

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lastwymsi The thing is having a stasis weapon is not useful at all right now other than doing bounties. There are no stasis shields or enemies or anything that stasis has an advantage over. The other stasis weapon also sucks ass too lol.

  • @bradenmacbeth2882

    @bradenmacbeth2882

    3 жыл бұрын

    Clipping through the map?

  • @Vestige98
    @Vestige983 жыл бұрын

    malfeasance aesthetic is my favorite, just a clean Taken-esque gun.

  • @oryxthetakenking8275

    @oryxthetakenking8275

    3 жыл бұрын

    Drifter has good taste

  • @prab8581

    @prab8581

    3 жыл бұрын

    agreed one of my favourites

  • @Frost3yte

    @Frost3yte

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use the red cord of fate skin, I love it

  • @marklo6283

    @marklo6283

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like the whisper

  • @karenruk9140

    @karenruk9140

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine they make an “fallen killer exotic” kind of like skyburners is for cabal and malfeasance is for taken. Id want to see mithrax’s reaction

  • @letsgodeezymusic130
    @letsgodeezymusic1302 жыл бұрын

    Dude I love you sense of humor 🤣🤣🤣 and im new to destiny 2 so this helps alot thank you brother

  • @jonkeau5155
    @jonkeau51552 жыл бұрын

    Tommy’s matchbook is one of those guns that I just go “I’d rather run Sweet Business”

  • @usanian83
    @usanian833 жыл бұрын

    It could be pulled off, look at trinity ghoul when they released the catalyst🤙

  • @reef1017831

    @reef1017831

    3 жыл бұрын

    With that catalyst it instantly became my favorite weapon in the game. I'm closing in on like 60,000 kills with it.

  • @proassassin8473

    @proassassin8473

    3 жыл бұрын

    Trinity Ghoul is God Teir.

  • @Cos_

    @Cos_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@reef1017831 same here, it was vaulted for me until the catty released. Hasn’t left my side since, and closing in on 100k kills with it because it’s just so damn fun. More catalysts like this please!

  • @RolandTheJabberwocky
    @RolandTheJabberwocky3 жыл бұрын

    You seriously think Coldheart doesnt need a buff when its exotic effect is "is a trace rifle"? Wack.

  • @dexterbarlow-busch4127

    @dexterbarlow-busch4127

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imo the best change is to double down on the "sustained damage" part of it and make it so as the damage increases, the ammo consumption decreases.

  • @ForeverLaxx

    @ForeverLaxx

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's exotic effect is that it ramps up damage while on target. It's just missing a secondary ability to make you care about that or synergizes in some way with that ability.

  • @ziolan8970

    @ziolan8970

    3 жыл бұрын

    I really think coldheart should be a stasis weapon

  • @HatTrickzTV

    @HatTrickzTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ziolan8970 it is supposed to be ice after all lol

  • @SizemoreTV

    @SizemoreTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HatTrickzTV it’s a supercold cooling system keeping a superhot blue fire laser in check with the weapon systems, if anything it should be solar lmao.

  • @dadenelson7570
    @dadenelson75702 жыл бұрын

    Merciless actually got my squad through a riven run with THAT seasonal fusion rifle mod

  • @laziness6641
    @laziness66412 жыл бұрын

    I got an idea to buff malfeasance: the 5-shot explosion is AoE with rather small range and if you kill an enemy with a normal shot instead of an explosion stack, the remaining bullets will explode and still damage targets nearby, the masterwork increases reload speed and and the 5-shot explosion gets more powerful with each explosion stack triggered until you reload.

  • @epicgamerzfail4575
    @epicgamerzfail45753 жыл бұрын

    I think the biggest problem with "bad" exotics is that unique != good. A lot of the worst exotics do something very unique and cool....but that thing isn't really useful. A generic exotic sword that just gives a lot of damage "lament" is top tier vs. a one-of-a-kind slug throwing heat seeking scout rifle that explodes "skyburners"

  • @Lynch2507

    @Lynch2507

    3 жыл бұрын

    i mean, tbf, lament is a chainsword

  • @traviswilliams2348

    @traviswilliams2348

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lynch2507 yeah, but it still functions like a normal sword. Swish swish stab. Not that complicated.

  • @christopherallenjr7241

    @christopherallenjr7241

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@traviswilliams2348 that’s basically what darci is

  • @banekiller6245

    @banekiller6245

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@traviswilliams2348 I see what you did there

  • @gektoast4968

    @gektoast4968

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Skyburners is great

  • @vatekanore3756
    @vatekanore37563 жыл бұрын

    "Some exotics are meant to be unique, not good" Well yeah, that's true.. but why? Devs come up with a creative idea just to discourage people from using it?

  • @TheBizzerker

    @TheBizzerker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, this argument doesn't really make sense. Nobody gives a shit about something being unique if it isn't good for anything. It's "unique" aspect still has to excel at what it does or it's just a waste of everybody's time.

  • @and...and..

    @and...and..

    3 жыл бұрын

    They should strive for both

  • @dreadnaught5370

    @dreadnaught5370

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not every weapon can be the most powerful. Some are designed to intentionally be worse than others to help prevent power creep, bungie has said this themselves I think back in taken king.

  • @vatekanore3756

    @vatekanore3756

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dreadnaught5370 That's not how you deal with power creep though, you deal with power creep by introducing stronger enemies, not weaker guns Wyverns, Brigs and Master VoG are a great example of how it's done

  • @brendanmccaul9089

    @brendanmccaul9089

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, for people who always go for meta stuff and MAX DPS in PvE stuff (barring raids and M/GMs) will not use these things. Its about having fun in a video game, fancy that. Theres a time and place for Anarchy, and theres a time and place for skyburners if you think its fun to shoot.

  • @MTG9745
    @MTG9745 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like the Ace of Spades (best exotic next to the osteo striga and parasite) and the Hawkmoon (I know enough about this revolver to talk about it, but I don’t own it) are both great exotics, and I think that they should both get videos on their own due to their own perks.

  • @OriginalSystem37
    @OriginalSystem372 жыл бұрын

    Merciless is incredible with particle deconstruction now. It’s also always been great in pvp. It’s my favorite exotic.

  • @dexterbarlow-busch4127
    @dexterbarlow-busch41273 жыл бұрын

    Instant Malf fix: Make the slugs explode like Firefly if the target dies before 5 shots. Ez Pz.

  • @Evan-ug6qc

    @Evan-ug6qc

    3 жыл бұрын

    It already does that

  • @danielvigario3477

    @danielvigario3477

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Evan-ug6qc it has almost no AoE, unless enemies are hugging each other they won't take dmg at all. Its more of a explosive payload range, it needs to be firefly level.

  • @evilrosaryharvester1743

    @evilrosaryharvester1743

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember that i saw a post about datamining and a section was about the malfeasance catalyst that was supposed to give it something similar to firefly, so we'll see !

  • @ArtDadDraws

    @ArtDadDraws

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you one better: Five shots need to land, but they don't need to be on one target. Explosion damage scales to number of slugs in targets?

  • @halfcabkrooks

    @halfcabkrooks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ArtDadDraws This seems like a pretty cool and unique idea

  • @mr_ekshun
    @mr_ekshun3 жыл бұрын

    Personally, in my experience, the ability to see allied healthbars would make Lumina a much more enjoyable weapon to use. I'd be able to see what I'm contributing to my team in terms of healing AND, y'know, I'd know when I really need to fire that healing shot.

  • @chriskirkland6976

    @chriskirkland6976

    2 жыл бұрын

    What health rating does the “!” Pop up on allies? 40% health? It doesn’t really seem like they’re low

  • @riasisbad

    @riasisbad

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chriskirkland6976 It's whenever they take ANY damage, so it's of little help in almost all activities.

  • @supercato9613

    @supercato9613

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@riasisbad when you take damage, the *!* stays like 0.5sec. When you're on critical health, it stays until you start regenerating shields

  • @chincemagnet
    @chincemagnet2 жыл бұрын

    I recently got Wish Ender and there are absolutely times seeing through walls and cover is a god tier perk. The most recent nightfall, at the spot where the ghost is hacking and you get repeatedly rushed by those exploding shanks, Wish Ender is amazing there because there’s cover blocking your view, but you can see right through it and prepare the fire as soon as they pop out from behind the cover, which is essential, because they just keep coming and they’ll kill you instantly if they get close

  • @Undamagedaddyk
    @Undamagedaddyk2 жыл бұрын

    The Polaris Lance holds a special place in my heart as the gun which won me Whisper of the Worm.

  • @jacksonbacon2589
    @jacksonbacon25893 жыл бұрын

    Merciless is actually a pretty solid PvP fusion with its catalyst. I know you can seldom make use of its exotic perk of faster charge time on non-lethal hits, but the catalyst causes it to become a stat MONSTER with range and stability. I consistently kill people from farther away than any other fusion rifle with Merciless.

  • @epicgamerzfail4575

    @epicgamerzfail4575

    3 жыл бұрын

    Merciless is good in pvp just cause it's a good fusion, not cause of its exoticness. Luckily exotic slots don't matter as much in pvp so it isn't too much of a con.

  • @clo4k697

    @clo4k697

    3 жыл бұрын

    They killed the entire fusion rifle class when they nerfed damage flooring to .5x from .75x because of one fucking broken perk on erentil fr4

  • @dustrockblues7567

    @dustrockblues7567

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish they would remove Merciless' uniquely slow charge rate. It should have the same charge time as the other high impact fusions. Maybe then it would compete with the other exotic fusions.

  • @fort809

    @fort809

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, merciless has been slept on for like two years now. It’s literally a perfect PvP fusion

  • @fort809

    @fort809

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dustrockblues7567 it does more damage for the higher charge rate tho. 52ish per bolt vs 49

  • @hags-
    @hags-3 жыл бұрын

    Remember when Merciless was the main option for Calus DPS?? Good times...

  • @AeridesEntertainment

    @AeridesEntertainment

    3 жыл бұрын

    For all of two weeks, until Cluster Bombs.

  • @emperorcalus5020

    @emperorcalus5020

    3 жыл бұрын

    Trust me, I remember

  • @dnddude9652
    @dnddude96522 жыл бұрын

    16:55 I love how he stood in shock after not dying

  • @aurumix4040
    @aurumix40402 жыл бұрын

    I really like merciless for some bosses because of its dps, after the third shot it basically has 0 charge time. combine it with some fusion mods and the catalyst and its a fairly strong boss shredder

  • @inoob26
    @inoob263 жыл бұрын

    if Vex was in the poll it would probably be in the top 5 worst exotics

  • @TheMarine0333

    @TheMarine0333

    2 жыл бұрын

    this comment didnt age well

  • @inoob26

    @inoob26

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMarine0333 the poll existed before the buff so I have no idea what form of aging is there to have

  • @kmanalpha453
    @kmanalpha4533 жыл бұрын

    Malfeasance is honestly one of my favorite guns, across both pvp and pve

  • @ninjaslash52_98

    @ninjaslash52_98

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s good in pvp

  • @mattheweichler

    @mattheweichler

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @SizemoreTV

    @SizemoreTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it’s not used as much because no catalyst. This is my reason yk? I want a primary gun i can track kills ig lol

  • @lucinev

    @lucinev

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ninjaslash52_98 it's *okay*. It's a 180 without having the 180 in-air accuracy and can't get Icarus, so it's already at a disadvantage. It will always just be okay with other HCs around. It's my favorite gun in the game but I won't try and make it sound better than it is.

  • @vapordoggo

    @vapordoggo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lucinev well it's a 5 tap from any range because of the intrinsic per

  • @annikawav
    @annikawav2 жыл бұрын

    i'm so glad you care about cerberus, it can shred when used properly

  • @noahhkun5097
    @noahhkun50972 жыл бұрын

    Salvations grip is used for lots of parkour, speed runs, OOBs and patrol fun. I think this fits the bill of “not all exotics need to be good, just unique and add fun to a new playstyle”

  • @cakeneverlies6238
    @cakeneverlies62383 жыл бұрын

    Seeing Trinity in top 5 best/used exotics: "Look at my boy, I'm so proud of him"

  • @TommysMatchbook
    @TommysMatchbook3 жыл бұрын

    Playing Grace Warkock with Lumina is literally playing a medic and it's actually pretty fun

  • @kingllama-vp2yl

    @kingllama-vp2yl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Devil Bird it's pretty good in PvP, and is pretty decent in pve, it's certainly useable in master level content, maybe not GM's tho

  • @duganelliott8340

    @duganelliott8340

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Devil Bird I ran lumina and boots of the assembler for the day 1 VoG experience and it was pretty decent but not great.

  • @JG-nc4ec

    @JG-nc4ec

    3 жыл бұрын

    People sleep on the huge damage buff it gives as well. The damage buff given to your allies and you isn’t locked to lumina so you can grant the buff then use your heavy or special as if you were getting buffed by a mobile well of radiance. With luminas catalyst you have noble rounds super often too so it’s pretty much 100 percent uptime on the damage buff.

  • @TheFirstCurse1

    @TheFirstCurse1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Devil Bird That's not true AT ALL. Especially for endgame. A healer is amazing.

  • @TheFirstCurse1

    @TheFirstCurse1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Devil Bird Sure man. I'm a support main. I'm used to keeping teammates alive, and in D2 it's a huge help. Most people don't play supports in Destiny though. It's like Warframe: you all just want to kill shit. I get it, but don't undervalue a support.

  • @kingblackthorn4195
    @kingblackthorn41952 жыл бұрын

    Polaris Lance has been one of mt favorites for so long lol. Grinding for it and its catalsyst were so fun. Love that gun. It feels good and fun to use.

  • @angrywizard3199
    @angrywizard31992 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Acrius could work if it gave you a damage resist on hitting all shots, like O-T P but with a super strong Heir Apparent-like shield

  • @Volatile9747
    @Volatile97473 жыл бұрын

    imo Wishender when it was broken as fuck was the most fun i've had with that weapon ever

  • @stayfrosty0015

    @stayfrosty0015

    3 жыл бұрын

    It made it like actually viable as well, I think that’s what the catalyst should be. There’s already plenty of primaries that put out that much damage anyway.

  • @shotokanrob2487
    @shotokanrob24873 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never heard Datto be more angry with anything in Destiny’s entire franchise then he is with Jade Rabbit 😂

  • @spengebabswagpants6768

    @spengebabswagpants6768

    3 жыл бұрын

    More like poop rabbit. Gottem

  • @shigersky

    @shigersky

    3 жыл бұрын

    Im trying my best here

  • @spengebabswagpants6768

    @spengebabswagpants6768

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shigersky eww smelly big stinky

  • @Demigodking

    @Demigodking

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shigersky you’re best mode is momentum control

  • @iloveknife8798

    @iloveknife8798

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Demigodking Not anymore... it's Fukin lazer tag mode now... Welp... Jade rabbit is literally "Master of none" now

  • @thetimers1973
    @thetimers1973 Жыл бұрын

    We need an updated version of this video.

  • @Ihavemorestuff
    @Ihavemorestuff Жыл бұрын

    I put wave splitter in the top, because if you're running a charged with light orb of power build, it just melts everything and it's very fun

  • @yaboibrundon6381
    @yaboibrundon63813 жыл бұрын

    I’m just so glad that someone finally remembered Polaris lance exists

  • @exosus7451

    @exosus7451

    3 жыл бұрын

    polaris is m favorite weapon to use in gambit its the only gun combined with malfeasance I've gotten someone to call me a sweat for using.

  • @skeleydear

    @skeleydear

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bro legit, most of these weapons were so fun back in the day and in my opinion, still can be fun, like when Polaris came out I remembered it was so fun and couldn’t put it down

  • @MazHazPazzaz

    @MazHazPazzaz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@exosus7451 It is, in my opinion, the best non heavy invasion tool in the game. It three taps, and it three taps quickly. Strong aim assist, long range enough to compete with snipers, ammo back meaning you don't have to reload on back to back kills, low recoil and good handling. Hell, even in just regular PvE it's its own monster, being able to crank out absurdly consistent DPS against ads and champions. As long as Scout Rifles have a seasonal anti-champion mod, I will always take Polaris Lance.

  • @Opressivemind

    @Opressivemind

    2 жыл бұрын

    I achieved 1335 recently and did my 1st GM nightfalls... I hated scout rifles in general... but since this season is Anti-barrier scout, I found myself forced to take a scout, so i looked at Polaris Lance in my Bank.... took it out, wiped the dust out of it, put some gun oil in the barrel and wiped it clean and good Lord it Slays in GM nightfalls..... you basically never Reload, ever and you shoot through anything into their Heads xD. If they buff its Explosion exotic perk into making more overall damage or DOT damage im gonna go around using it outside Nightfalls too for sure!

  • @exosus7451

    @exosus7451

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Opressivemind ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US.

  • @NordicMetal93
    @NordicMetal933 жыл бұрын

    Odd that Prospector was low considering it was the go to "I don't have a god rolled gl" exotic.

  • @Jagrofes

    @Jagrofes

    3 жыл бұрын

    That meta was 2 years ago, and if Legendary GLs do better than it, there isn’t a point to it being used.

  • @NordicMetal93

    @NordicMetal93

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jagrofes True that. How many people remember that its exotic abilities beyond being full auto are burn damage and sticky grenades?

  • @Nukyyy

    @Nukyyy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember cheesing riven with prospector cuz we didn't have anything better to use

  • @Zeonis

    @Zeonis

    3 жыл бұрын

    Xenophage has become that roll

  • @bruh-fw7op

    @bruh-fw7op

    3 жыл бұрын

    prospector is hilarious for dps, it’s actually greay

  • @walleyall5988
    @walleyall5988 Жыл бұрын

    I know this is from a year ago, but mentioning Queenbreaker made me realize how badly I miss when it used special ammo back in Destiny 1. It would be fun and I’d love using it if it were a special weapon again

  • @christhiantrevisan8084
    @christhiantrevisan80842 жыл бұрын

    15:00 I still remember the days where being a fusion was a bad thing

  • @Rich4198
    @Rich41983 жыл бұрын

    The Wish ender had an awesome short era when it was bugged in Shadowkeep:(

  • @chriswhite7636

    @chriswhite7636

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used it so much when it was busted. Good times

  • @oryxthetakenking8275

    @oryxthetakenking8275

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was actually Nightfall viable then. RIP to the bow, it only lasted in the limelight for like 2 weeks

  • @MrHEMI260

    @MrHEMI260

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ohh that's right! I forgot all about it, that's how short it's amount of time to shine was.

  • @MrHEMI260

    @MrHEMI260

    3 жыл бұрын

    A new catalyst should make it do JUST THAT, maybe a little less damage though to keep it fair.

  • @XietheZebra
    @XietheZebra3 жыл бұрын

    The Lumina has become one of my favorite hand cannons to use this season. Just like the thorn with the necrotic grips, lumina stacks with the boots of the assembler. Making so you never really need to reload and you rift will last forever because the healing effect of the noble rounds procs the the effect of the boots. While it is fun to do, you will lack the DPS for most things. You are just an RPG healer.

  • @codymcginley6823

    @codymcginley6823

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget that both proc blessings of the dawn in welllock as well

  • @goose5200

    @goose5200

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a Hunter, Lumina is my only way of really helping.

  • @jameswooster4250

    @jameswooster4250

    3 жыл бұрын

    hey what build are you using and what class? thanks

  • @XietheZebra

    @XietheZebra

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jameswooster4250 Boots of the assembler with the lumina on warlock With well of radiance you become a stationary healer never have to reload And you can heal from any distance with the gun And you're grenade.

  • @jameswooster4250

    @jameswooster4250

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@XietheZebra thanks man!

  • @sandshark5767
    @sandshark57672 жыл бұрын

    I said the exact same thing for the idea of the malfeasance catalyst, like 2 or 3 shots to trigger explosion damage and radius increase after kill or something like that

  • @anthonycaldwell5399
    @anthonycaldwell53992 жыл бұрын

    I feel like a good catalyst for malfeasance would be a precision shot can proct the explosion of the slugs early but they still detonate at 5 shots

  • @DrNotnert
    @DrNotnert3 жыл бұрын

    "I love Lumina, it's so much fun playing as a support character!" *Datto says it's bad* "Wtf Lumina is actual hot garbage I'm never touching this thing again"

  • @Amirifiz

    @Amirifiz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use it with those warlock boots as a way to get free damage buffs on my energy weapons.

  • @thetwintiger

    @thetwintiger

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think Lumina should be changed back to a 150rpm.

  • @BustyBloodclot

    @BustyBloodclot

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's viable. I swear ;-;

  • @sirpr3ce855

    @sirpr3ce855

    3 жыл бұрын

    if i wouldnt dislike its design so much i would play it way more just because of the lore it has, there is an artist who drew some really great pictures of Reyzil Azzir (dregen yor), at a time we still thought yor was a hunter, together with his rose. and i mean it if i say i would even pay 15 bucks for an lumina ornament that looks like this (the artist is Shiniebezial or stjepan sejic on twitter

  • @Kirokill1

    @Kirokill1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BustyBloodclot I like it

  • @tufcat92
    @tufcat923 жыл бұрын

    Shame. Queenbreakers was awesome in D1, you know, when it used special ammo

  • @anthonyeasson1739

    @anthonyeasson1739

    3 жыл бұрын

    don't forget in D1 if you had 2 fusion rifle reserves you could get 61 shots, I think, it was something silly.

  • @angelkim.9549
    @angelkim.9549 Жыл бұрын

    Well, Wish-ender got the intrinsic anti-barrier rounds 😂 It’s literally my go-to weapon atm. I can’t get enough of it ❤❤

  • @shidderalpha2293
    @shidderalpha22932 жыл бұрын

    Malfeasance catalyst idea: picking up an orb causes shots to explode on impact for a short duration. Would make it good against ads kinda a self fuling catalyst

  • @chust1n
    @chust1n3 жыл бұрын

    I've been running Malfeasance with overload rounds this season since proccing the explosion will also end up stunning overload champs in the process. Fun to use in stuff like override, but not too sure about Master/GM stuff lol.

  • @ChromeQuake

    @ChromeQuake

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't the gun stun them before the taken explosions happen? I mean that sounds fun and all but you'd probably get more bang for your buck with Crimson.

  • @malfeasance4094

    @malfeasance4094

    3 жыл бұрын

    Still waiting for my catalyst

  • @jasond9797
    @jasond97973 жыл бұрын

    still waiting on Devil's Ruins' day in the spotlight and I will die on this hill

  • @jazay591

    @jazay591

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that gun is really cool. They should give it a catalyst that fills the magazine on multikills with the laser and champion stuns.

  • @sherlockfowl2400

    @sherlockfowl2400

    3 жыл бұрын

    My 2nd favorite sidearm, only behind Rat King

  • @sebastianturner2458

    @sebastianturner2458

    3 жыл бұрын

    So proud of the hatemail I got after repeatedly beaming the same shotgun ape to death in multiple random lobbies with it.

  • @bossflyer9822

    @bossflyer9822

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was actually a build on hunter with the tricksleeves that made it do some pretty big DPS, but it got nerfed into the ground a season or two ago I believe.

  • @gektoast4968

    @gektoast4968

    3 жыл бұрын

    This. I will forever stand behind devils ruin

  • @8BlackBart8
    @8BlackBart82 жыл бұрын

    Watching the fusion rifle part of the video with merciless is pretty funny while we're in the season of the lost

  • @myrekium9785
    @myrekium9785 Жыл бұрын

    I remember when merciless was a good job but that was at the launch of D2 for the raid in the pleasure garden for the dogs.

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