Victims deserve justice not reconciliation.

The repulsive smirk on his face has no remorse. Justice comes on judgement day. God is greater. To the survivor of all, peace be with you.

@worth2worthnation

2 жыл бұрын

When you believe with such certitude as he did, you can surrender to claim disbelief when challenged. That would make him a liar, a fake, a man with no honor to himself.

@silvyasmith4748

2 жыл бұрын

Barb you are 500% absolutely correct 👍👍🏼

@guydutoit61

Жыл бұрын

I trust you’re talking about Dirk Coetzee?

"Imagine some people are in jail for stealing chocolate..." But these terrible people deserve amnesty? 🙄

What a remarkable man you will be missed♥️ You changed the lives of so many people.

Monsters. Absolutely dead inside.

@aq2819

2 жыл бұрын

All should be chucked in concentrated acid.

@theresajames1773

2 жыл бұрын

He has children I am sure

@hazeb372

2 жыл бұрын

What evil MF

Regardless of your politics, I think we can all agree that Truth and Reconciliation was a great level in Halo.

@bryanb3352

2 жыл бұрын

What was so great about it?

@LeesReviews69

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the best level in Halo!

Truth is they should have been convicted of war crimes. This dude TU tu did a disservice to the people of South Africa it makes me look like he's is nothing but a pawn of the British crown.

@worth2worthnation

2 жыл бұрын

You would rather tell a story of more dead people than the "sacrifice-one pawn," this story of unbelievable pain and forgiveness. Yes, that too is a choice. However, the pawns on a chessboard are not human-they have no power over life, and they can't save lives and set such a high standard for these shares. I understand the pain and the need for a different kind of justice, but I rather the sacrifice and the honor we could represent when asked to sacrifice. Vengeance or justice-the historical example of life over more death served both sides. I don't think I am made of that kind of doing, but I have the ability to admire it for the right reason. Go on, move me!

@joycemansfield1108

4 ай бұрын

Learn to have respect for a Nobel laureate peace maker for his whole life .

This is so deeply sadistic, and disturbing, this man and others who are responsible should be in jail.💔🇿🇦😔 #Unimaginable

@queene813

2 жыл бұрын

It is the most horrific thing to imagine he is walking around free to tell this story in exchange for amnesty. It is a nightmare to realize it’s not imagined

@babatunde55

Жыл бұрын

This isn't about the man, the TRC is about the victims and their families and the best way for them to heal. Retributive justice wasn't the way to help the victims as it causes a spriral of hate. Reconciliation was the best way to provide closure to the victims and their families.

@omaramr6107

9 ай бұрын

@@babatunde55who’s to say. Some victims feel as if retributive justice is the only way to move on. Others feel that neither truth nor retributive approaches do enough because the systemic inequalities that have come about do not get addressed in either. How are the victims able to move on if they are in the same disadvantage as they were independent of whether those who victimized them are punished or free.

These people don't deserve amnesty. They should all rot in prison. I don't know how South Africans can be so forgiving....

@simonmanley6257

2 жыл бұрын

it was forced down their throats by their clownish

@sambanelly4219

2 жыл бұрын

They should have all been MURDERED. The same way they did the murdering.

I’m a Christian, and what comes to mind is this little pray 🙏 God for give them they know not what the do. But true to the light, they know everything that they did. And they knew it was wrong. I’m in that boat also. The dirt that I did I knew it wasn’t right. And I had to pay 💰 the price. They knew it wasn’t right when they was doing it.

@barrontrump9917

2 жыл бұрын

Your prayer is right and just.

@PASTRAMIKick

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but your a heretic if you're anglican

tragic to see people so pure they can't fathom that these people will not feel remorse, no matter how nice they are

Disgusting!! Privilege doesn't know what generosity looks like, when that is all they know, established through torture and greed! They'll deflect "look at what the other person is doing" because don't want to be responsible...that means you have to do the work of being accountable and reconcile...Unless your ❤ understands the real meaning of grace...they will see it as a waste of time. This is exactly what's happening in the good ole' 🇺🇲

The debate is for me at least one of the most interesting and one I will forever come back to: is truth and reconciliation enough to call justice for genocidal atrocities. I don’t know the answer but the case studies are both devastating to read and impossible to not think about. 60 minutes used to be so much better.

Tutu took a check and betrayed his people. Without restitution, forgiveness and reconciliation is meritless.

@amandametta

2 жыл бұрын

What a pity that you take the man to be as small minded as your understanding of forgiveness. As far as I understand his message is that he is a humanitarian, and not a political leader favoring a specific group of people.

@tiwonnasims8206

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing peoples don’t even look at the people they were killing as human and Tutu is begging them to except their forgiveness . Forgiveness don’t excuse the consequences that should be handed down for the crimes against humanity just listening to these people the are glorified in their actions see nothing wrong except being held accountable sick and sad but praying for peoples like this is much needed because if they don’t change the True God will seek vengeance.

@namu8062

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiwonnasims8206 Dont forget that the difference between true justice and "forgive and forget" is the victims level of melanin. Tutu the double agent was used to pacify the victims of apartheid and ensure the criminals kept their farms and ranches.

@tonyrains217

2 жыл бұрын

The current South African government is busy taking white farmers land. If that's what he worked for he got it.

I am afraid, I didn't know about the mechanisms of Truth and Reconciliation. While magnanimous at one level, I don't think such a procedure would ensure reconciliation and enduring peace. For that, you first needs justice. While capital punishment would have been state sanctioned violence, taking freedom away in the form of a prison sentence would have at least come close to being commensurate with the seriousness of the crimes. Further more, going through the painful process of recording and investing crimes should have been done. Simply granting amnesty does not ensure closure. It is pretending like wounds don't exist. Enshrining human rights and reconstituting organs of the state should have been ensured. The very perpetrator being interviewed is suggesting his former allies are in the police forces. The little that I know about modern South Africa, I don't think that has been achieved.

@LozaPoza

Жыл бұрын

Stated everything I was thinking perfectly. It's no wonder our crime rate as a nation is so high. We are a nation that is still not at peace.

They should be forgiving but placed OUT OF AFRICA and anything they gained of wealth given back to the African People

@worth2worthnation

2 жыл бұрын

I like this approach.

@TheRealRusDaddy

2 жыл бұрын

Literally the nazis mindset before they got pushed into the war

@njonjokibera9587

Жыл бұрын

I like the approach of that

When perpetrators and those who ordered these atrocious acts are not held accountable and made to face consequences, it encourages other regimes in other parts of the world to commit the same kind of crimes with impunity.

@The-RoyalKnight

2 жыл бұрын

When the the government can convince a population to believe lies freedom dies.

@adammarchandisacrybully6166

2 жыл бұрын

In post-Apartheid South Africa, terrorist home invasions are a daily occurrance.

@epileptictrees5213

Жыл бұрын

No, it doesn't.

@r0manovic

Жыл бұрын

Or it exactly those same regimes commit more crimes in order to hold on to power because they feel they have no other choice

Whatever is in your heart comes out, people can do such heinous crimes, have the devil of darkness in theirs.

@darlingtonmachilar6745

4 ай бұрын

White South Africans are evil

So, his life's work was getting war criminals off the hook, and you try to tote him as a good guy? Media is so sick.

I just walked out of the Apartheid museum in Johannesburg. As a Black American, from my point of view, this was like American segregation on steroids. What our South African brothers and sisters experienced were nothing less than crimes against humanity.

@Healingson

7 ай бұрын

Our communities have a lot of similarities in our issues which I think might have to do with our similar histories, for example the broken families and the large disparities in income between blacks and whites

@dannyarcher6370

2 ай бұрын

Congratulations for getting out of Ormonde alive.

What a visionary. The commission may feel like betrayal and injustice to those who have been terribly pained, but for generations to come, this will result in something positive and far greater than what our revengeful minds can comprehend.

@royburnacoven3559

2 жыл бұрын

A communist dump? Because that's what SA has become.

@worth2worthnation

2 жыл бұрын

Preemptive empathy for gaining generational wealth in forgiveness. If there is no God, we'll have to invent one.

@amandametta

2 жыл бұрын

Roy Burnacoven have you ever lived in a communist country? Luckily SA is not that, at all, even though the country has many aspects that’s unfortunately not in good shape.

@BobBob-wb2ld

2 жыл бұрын

@@royburnacoven3559 South Africa isn't communist.

@royburnacoven3559

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobBob-wb2ld The SACP calls all the shots with help from the ANC and trade unions. It's a red toylet.

This happen when people wanted to be God’s.

How are these folks able to laugh during this interviews including Tutu? Imagine if this was holocaust being discussed, it would be an outrage.

@burtcharled8114

Жыл бұрын

Tutu was a sell out

I don't think this has ever happened in the history of the world or will ever happen again. If someone from South Africa here can elaborate on how things are today, it would be useful to know if the sacrifice of the victims was worth it.

@Appolis786

8 ай бұрын

Would you still like that update?

@Artoria_77

6 ай бұрын

@@Appolis786pls give it

@mphonaheng5252

4 ай бұрын

Not much has changed today. 98% of the land and wealth in my country🇿🇦 is still owned by whites

Deadly home invasions have been a daily occurrence since the end of apartheid.

@TheRedScareIsAlive

2 жыл бұрын

What's that have to do with anything? You want go back to innocent people being tortured and execution like before? Those dead, tortured souls don't mean more to you than home invasions?

@MONTANAENTERPRISES1

2 жыл бұрын

Fake News

@leahl7352

Жыл бұрын

When your country is built on deceit, evil and violence and no justice is forthcoming you can expect the same to continue. It isn't hard to figure out.

Oh my Lord

A big part of me wants the truth to come out, but to learn of how wicked this Coetzee white guy was, it shows that apartheid should never be returned.

The enemy has captured Captain Keyes, and are holding him aboard one of their cruisers, the Truth and Reconciliation. The ship is currently holding position approximately three hundred meters above the other end of this plateau - Cortana

We humans under the pressures of nature's laws only attempt reasoning to act or react to our moments realized of a moment as fate over and done. Never ever will change that in what is good and that to which is evil will forever be. Our struggle is not in each believing we know truth but rather convincing others to sense the same. Deliberate torture done upon another from one to the other will always be real EVIL!

What is the value of a apology when victims have to ask for one? Justice comes to all. The biggest thing in the world isn't the world! Say it ain't so.

The power of truth.to gain power over life now .

In Iran they have a better justice system. When the family of the victim forgives the murderer, then the murderer will not be punished.

Wow

Very interesting

Amazing

And now this Bolshevik will have to answer to God.

Mr. Tutu, those dead warriors and their families will never forgive you.

How was this possible

You used "and" twice. Replace the first one with "on" or "in"

I don't really believe the death penalty... But that guy needs to go

@antmanatthemoment7233

4 ай бұрын

That only makes you no better than him

2022(G) “Respect and dignity.”

Nice

Remarkable man

Wao

Would be great to learn more about the CIA's involvement in establishing and maintaining the Apartheid regime.

Inhumane and sickening 😡

Never heard of him.

Yes of course

The Archbishop will ALWAYS be one of my true heroes, to admire! Next to Christ, of course. ✝️🔥👍❤️

All this is really helping them in South Africa. Their people are now oppressed by themselves. I bet that makes them feel better.

@TheRealRusDaddy

2 жыл бұрын

Yep but theyll still blame whites and Britain because its easier then accepting their own endless faults

@raphaelsphesihle4622

2 жыл бұрын

So you're saying what happened in SA during Apartheid was better than what's happening now?

@shilohgardner

2 жыл бұрын

Raphael Sphesihle no you said that. What I’m saying is the pot should’ve never called the kettle black. Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s common sense so I’m sure you don’t understand.

Absolute Legend, icon, scholar, humanitarian and all around good human being. You will be greatly missed 🙏🏽

@pannamal5182

2 жыл бұрын

@Nitro Martini and loved abortion for HIS people

@johanneabelsen1644

Жыл бұрын

The Arch will never be forgotten!

Please subtitles for the deaf

There is no redemption for the one commanding. And that sacrifice is their own to pay for. You dont get away from the final judgement, even with your fake narratives, and media liars, and textbooks, and hiding in the shadows. Nope. Payment is always due.

The beauty of propaganda is you end up believing it

If TRC worked why don't black people own their land and economy!

@ThinkerHaistTV

Жыл бұрын

You know the answer to that. Leave your bias at the door.

SELLOUT!!!!!

Vicious mass murderers judging the crimes of others isn't scary at all. And you can guarantee part of the deal was the criminals keeping their mouths shut about the crimes of their captors.

@jenniferhughes7520

2 жыл бұрын

Literally what are you even talking about.

They stole the name from the famous Halo 1 mission

60 Minutes is the morally poor man's Project Veritas.

It seems like the perpetrators showed no remorse

Sad stuff !!

A life well lived. God bless him. Now there is famine, civil wars in Ethiopia and elsewhere in Africa, talk about that.

@abinsurly2910

2 жыл бұрын

Africa is the second largest continent in the world, an incredible land mass that coukd hold the U.S. more than three times over, and has the richest mineral deposits on Earth. Do you really think the entire place is how you described it?

@abck23

2 жыл бұрын

@@abinsurly2910 East Africa is in blood bath because of Abiy of Ethiopia (second populace failed state of Africa) and Isaias of Eritrea aka North Korea of Africa. I know that for sure. North and North East Africa is no different.

@abinsurly2910

2 жыл бұрын

@@abck23 I have family in Kisumu Kenya and Nairobi, friends in Uganda, and even West African friends who tout the economic boom all the way in Rwanda. Kenya. Rwanda. Uganda. All east African nations. All.prosperous and not at war. You seem to not know what you're talking about - or seem to think that truth can actually be found on either end of some white a**hole's camera. Or worse: reports of bloodshed in East Africa are all you see because that's what you want to see.

The evilness angers me although I agree with Desmond Tutu...

I, True Messenger Of Peace !!!

This guy has real dramatic eyebrows

No one should hang someone else. Will the person that hangs the other person be consider a murderer? Will God forgive that person? I think not!

LESAN Love 🆗

TUTU was a Jew hater, let's see if 60 minutes shows that?

@ioxa8049

2 жыл бұрын

he went to Israel and understood the treatment of Palestines was a form of apartheid

@ioxa8049

2 жыл бұрын

“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.” A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”

@marklasky3555

2 жыл бұрын

@@ioxa8049 There you go..he was a Hamas supporter and fool.

@marklasky3555

2 жыл бұрын

@@ioxa8049 Then he "understood" nothing but supporting Hamas.

Tutu deserved a necklace for turning his back on his ppl.

@roolian5294

2 жыл бұрын

yeah.. i agree

i AM waiting 😉😎

South Africa sure has made GREAT PROGRESS with the BLACKS running things, ha ha ha

@sambanelly4219

2 жыл бұрын

You're a racist

@wisemanmabusela6524

10 ай бұрын

They are not running anything, whites have all wealth.

Same thing Israeli forces are doing to Palestinians... But the world chooses its issues

@silvyasmith4748

2 жыл бұрын

Fave : Amen for that, well said 👍🏼👍

GOD HAS REMOVED HIM> WATCH AS OTHER WICKED LEADERS START BEING REMOVED HERE AND AROUND THE WORLD

To me this guy Tutu looks like a Larry

As Christian these people should have paid the price for their crimesit doesn't matter if they had orders they were human beings they killed not dogs tutu is wrong every body involved should pay their are people who didn't pull the trigger but they get life or death these guys did the worst and got nothing

How could they be so heartless!! OMG OMG 😱😱😱😱😱😱

@barrontrump9917

2 жыл бұрын

It takes one bad man to get power. Look at Hitler. So many thought they were patriotic and the Germans were victims to Jewish migration. What a joke . Look at mexico now or some countries in Asia. Cartel or government good people are sometimes blind and overly forgiving. Never forget the Holocaust never forget 9/11 and so much more even way way way back in history

@barrontrump9917

2 жыл бұрын

He even talks like he admires his history. It's no different than a serial killer.

@abinsurly2910

2 жыл бұрын

When you're a demon who can't see other people as people, it's easy.

@TheRealRusDaddy

2 жыл бұрын

@@barrontrump9917 except the jewish people practically did run germany in the weimar age the germans reacted as badly as they did for a reason they didnt just suddenly decided one day everything that had ever went wrong was the jews fault, even hitler would call you an idiot for thinking like the way you are.

@silvyasmith4748

2 жыл бұрын

@@barrontrump9917 yeeeeees just like donald Duck Suck tRump. It takes one bad man 👍🏼👍

OMG --- this is a mess!!

Strange and hard

Bishop Tutu such an incredible human being... this was ingenious way to begin healing.

@burtcharled8114

Жыл бұрын

Best way to begin healing is with Justice. Not even God forgives the unrepentant.

Good good good good good good

Hello hello 👍

♥️♥️♥️

When Treason is the topic such a move is no longer acceptable...when the World Crime threatens human life and the planet...

God bless bishop tutu.

is this one of the bad guys from halo???

Was TUTU a comunist?

Wanted to hear Kamela giggling at the funeral. Guess she had something better to do.

@deplorablefederalist7908

2 жыл бұрын

Or maybe see brandon doze off every couple of minutes….totally sleep through it like he did on the world stage. I mean, she’s obviously got better things to do since she can’t even make it down to the border.

@Frankybeanselevators

2 жыл бұрын

All the sudden she can dust off her indian accent.

@scatterbrainstudios1143

2 жыл бұрын

@@Frankybeanselevators that's racist

I am humbled by the actions of Late Desmond tutu.." To forgive is a Divine thing" ..

@nyimatsering2757

2 жыл бұрын

@Nitro Martini , can you please elaborate me in detail about Tutu's stance on Jews ...I really appreciate if you share some light on me ..I genuinely wanted to know more please 🙏

@marsian7028

2 жыл бұрын

@@nyimatsering2757 tutu doesn’t like bagels.

*Tutu is Taboo* *And Evil too!* *"possibility of changing"???* *He's an idiot because true "Christian" change begins with heart felt remorse & empathy toward one's victim & a desire to atone for one's crime/sin. There was none of that here & Tutu failed the victims by ignoring true biblical standards.*

Sometimes in life we come across people who are one in a million. And if we're lucky we'll come across people who are one in a billion. This man was one in a billion for sure. A true gent and a stalwart. God rest you Sir. Your legacy will last for many years to come. RIP. From Ireland

@worth2worthnation

2 жыл бұрын

We no longer deal in millions or billions, we deal in trillions and quadrillion. Desmond Tutu stepped into the quantum spectrum of being one in a quintillion. His passion, his intuitive wisdom, his forgiveness, his relevance, his reverence, and most of all his consistency. If there is no God, we should use our minds to create one to welcome him on his continued journey. You made this race proud--we, the human race. Thank you!

Disgusting!

👍👍👏👏👏👍👍👍

Absolutely shameful, no wonder white people loved Tutu he was an apologist for these heathens

@jojo777304

2 жыл бұрын

@Stopbanningme KZread yikes so not the heathens who ripped out the tongues of people? Did you even watch the video?? So I have never killed anyone, but a man... on video admitted to killing 20 plus people .. and I’m a heathen? Ok

@historyboy08

2 жыл бұрын

@@jojo777304 he called you a heathen because you are just demonizing a race. Every racial group had a history of sin. Quit thinking you are some holy person. You are just as bad as the white supremacist.

@jojo777304

2 жыл бұрын

@@historyboy08 you watched a video that featured the war crimes of people who killed thousands and said I’m a heathen. Shameful. I made an observation of Tutu and you called me a black supremacist when I never asserted race. I said he was an apologist for apartheid criminals. Why are you so quick to make this about race when I was speaking about the men mentioned in these videos?

He was a bigot and an anti Semite . Some hero .

@ioxa8049

2 жыл бұрын

“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.” A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”

@sambanelly4219

2 жыл бұрын

Anti semite? Stop lying idiot

That man makes me vomit

Desmond Tutu may have done some superficially good things, but he had committed some major, major sins.

@jacksonalex6525

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

@yao052

2 жыл бұрын

Idiot

@Oliveoil91661

2 жыл бұрын

He was just on the wrong side of the truth a few times. I don't think he was an idiot.

@sambanelly4219

2 жыл бұрын

Major sins?? Like what

@Oliveoil91661

2 жыл бұрын

I posted them. I don't know what happened to them. 1. Pro Abortion 2. Pro Homosexuality 3. Pro Trans 4. Pro Gandhi (which was stupid). Gandhi was an anti-black racist

Challenge: With out searching, try to list just 10 Great People of African Descent that were born over 300 years ago.

@queene813

2 жыл бұрын

How when their history is destroyed?

@thesonsdaughtersofliberty5770

2 жыл бұрын

@@queene813 Lol, cant face reality huh?

Archbishop Desmond Tutu is a man of God but he was not the right man to head the TRC, I fail to understand why couldn't it had been a black lawyer or judge to head the TRC?

One of the most antisemitic figures of the last century

@ioxa8049

2 жыл бұрын

“I’ve been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa.” A few years later he was even more direct. “I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”

RIP DESMOND TUTU❤️❤️🙏

@martinhonan9588

2 жыл бұрын

He was a racist like you