Der Untergang (Downfall) Extended Scene - The Escape

This is an extended scene from "Der Untergang" Extended Edition. In this scene, Traudl and others escape the Reich Chancellery through the ruins of Berlin. They use Berlin Underground to escape, and Traudl witnesses the brutal reality of war. Hundreds of civilians and wounded soldiers are gathered, and many wounded scream because of pain. Doctors operate wounded ones while Iron Cross medals which became meaningless are being thrown away to the soldiers. Traudl's group managed to go across the bridge, but the following group was annihilated by the Soviets. In theatrical edition, many scenes were cut out, including Mohnke's group encountering a soldier and a bunch of civilians in the tunnel, and Constanze Manziarly, who was Hitler's personal cook, gives up and refuses to go on.
이 장면은 영화 '몰락' 확장판에 포함된 추가 장면입니다. 이 장면에서 트라우들과 다른 이들은 베를린의 폐허를 뚫고 제국수상 관저를 탈출합니다. 그들은 베를린 지하철을 통해 탈출하고, 트라우들은 전쟁의 잔혹한 실체를 마주합니다. 수백 명의 민간인들과 부상병들이 모여있고, 많은 부상병들이 고통으로 인해 울부짖습니다. 의사들이 부상병들을 수술하는 동안 다른 한쪽에서는 의미가 없어진 철십자 훈장들이 병사들에게 뿌려집니다. 트라우들의 무리는 다리를 건너는 데 성공했지만, 뒤따라오던 무리는 소련군에 의해 전멸합니다. 극장판에서는 몽케의 무리가 터널에서 한 병사와 민간인들을 만나는 장면과, 히틀러의 개인 요리사였던 콘스탄체 만치아를리가 포기하고 더 가기를 거부하는 장면 등이 삭제되었습니다.

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  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE
    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE2 жыл бұрын

    (Subtitles are available in English and Korean.) (영어와 한국어 자막 사용 가능합니다.) It is depicted in the film that Constanze Manziarly commits suicide by taking cyanide capsule, but in reality she went missing. She escaped with Mohnke's group including Traudl Junge and Gerda Christian, and they were captured by the Soviets. The women was held in the Soviet occupied area in Berlin. Manziarly was wearing a German army jacket, so she went to find some civilian clothes while Junge waited for her. Then, two soviet soldiers took Manziarly to the Berlin Underground tunnel. She reassured Junge that they just want to check out her papers. Manziarly was never seen again since then. 영화에서는 마치 콘스탄체 만치아를리가 청산가리 캡슐로 자살하는 것으로 묘사되지만, 실제로 그녀는 실종되었습니다. 그녀는 트라우들 융에와 게르다 크리스티안이 포함된 몽케의 무리와 함께 탈출했고, 그들은 소련군에게 붙잡혔습니다. 그녀들은 베를린의 소련군 점령 구역 내에 억류되었습니다. 만치아를리는 독일군 야상을 입고 있었고, 그녀는 융에가 기다리는 동안 민간인 옷을 찾으러 갔습니다. 그때, 두 명의 소련군이 만치아를리를 베를린 지하철 터널로 데려갔습니다. 그녀는 그들이 자신의 서류를 확인하고 싶은 것 뿐이라며 융에를 안심시켰습니다. 만치아를리는 그 이후로 다시는 나타나지 않았습니다.

  • @zahgurim7838

    @zahgurim7838

    2 жыл бұрын

    Subtitle: This is a complex topic now, I'll do my best to explain and to keep it simple at the same time. I am sorry for the confusion this may cause. The Prussian army did get rid of the rank "Corporal" in 1850, and they (now German army) had no such rank until 2021. They only reintroduced it because every other army in NATO seems to have that rank and this caused confusion in joint operations. "Korporal" was replaced by "Unteroffizier" in 1850, which is a rank between "Private" and "Sergeant" in other armies. At the same time German army had up to 5 different classes of "Private"/"Gefreiter" and the tasks other armies used to give to their "Corporals" were usually given to experienced "Privates" with higher classes like "Obergefreiter", "Hauptgefreiter", etc., while "Unteroffizier" had more complex tasks and more responsibility, closer to the tasks which are usually given to "Sergeants". Also German army has a rank (the lowest one) which is basically called "without rank" and is only used for untrained people or demoted soldiers. These "no-ranks" are named different each time, depending on the unit one is part of. Examples: "Soldat" (soldier), "Schütze" (rifleman), "Sansoldat" (med(ical) soldier), "Funker" (radio operator), "Panzergrenadier" (tank infantryman), etc. Interestingly these "no-ranks" are often translated to "Private" in English. IN SHORT: while in most other armies Corporals lead small troops of up to 6 men in the German army Privates of higher classes used to lead such troops. At the same time Germany had like 2 different "Sergeant"-ranks, while most other armies only had 1. Now SS-ranks are based on Wehrmachts-ranks and the rank "Sturmmann" has been associated with "Gefreiter". And "Gefreiter" equals "Private 4th class" (5th class today). According to NATO doctrin "Private 2nd class" (Stabsgefreiter) is associated with "Corporal". This causes confusion whenever German ranks are translated to English/American ranks in subtitles in basically every movie where German soldiers are shown. For example, Hitler has never been a Corporal or even a Sergeant, he was Private 4th class (5th class today). I have often heard about "Sergeant/Corporal Hitler" in WW1 from American sources. This is just not true, they simply don't understand our rank-system^^. I myself have been "Hauptgefreiter" (Private 3rd class) when I finished my time of duty. So even I had a higher rank than Hitler! :) CONCLUSION: ...that's why basically EVERY rank mentioned in the subtitles of this clip (of the soldiers who received the medals) is WRONG^^. They are all Privates, not Corporals.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zahgurim7838 Thanks for your detalied explanation. It didn't cause any confusion, it was clear. This kind of problem happens not only in this case, but also when someone is translating one's military ranks to another. It is also confusing for people because during WW2 German army ranks were divided into Heer and SS. Now I understand. Thanks again!

  • @zahgurim7838

    @zahgurim7838

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I'm glad I could make it understandable. I see, this seems to be a common problem, maybe worldwide; ofc. I only know about it from the view of my own nation. Well, German army is structured quite logical compared to some other armies, lets say the American forces for example. Since WW1 there are: 1. Heer (ground forces), 2. Marine (naval forces), 3. Luftwaffe (air forces), 4. Sanitätscorps (medical corps). Heer has the infantry, artillery, tanks, scouts, MP, paratroopers, mountain troops, specialforces, logistics, etc.; everything that walks, crawls or drives. Marine has everything that swims and Luftwaffe has everything which is able to fly^^ Medics mix up with the 3 other branches, they usually don't fight so they are not specialized at different weapon platforms and systems which makes them interchangable within the branches. Each branch has its own traditional ranks (with different names), the ranks are on a par with each other and interchangable. Every soldier has to learn 83 different names and symbols for 26 different ranks in total while in bootcamp, which is quite a pain in the ass^^ In WW2 two other, former paramilitary organisations have been implemented: SA and SS, both with their own artificial (fantasy-like) ranks. Both organisations have a complicated history and have had many internal changes, but that's too much stuff to explain in youtube's comment section. In short: SA (Sturmabteilung) has been assimilated by the Nazis when Hitler unified the ultra-right-wing parties prior to his grasp for power. The members mainly consisted of party-loyal veterans of WW1 in the beginning and simple party members later. Their importance within the 3rd Reich had been decreased over the years. Hitler gained total control over them by executing their highest leader Ernst Röhm in 1934. SS (Schutzstaffel) was something completely different. They started as Hitler's private bodyguards and turned into an ultra-loyal elite-club of fanatics. The members consisted mainly of academic, well educated and handpicked men in the beginning and everybody who passed their selection process later. Their importance had been increased over the years especially when they started supporting the regular army (Wehrmacht) in battles. They had many sub-groups for different tasks, like Totenkopf-SS, Waffen-SS, Leibstandarte A.Hitler, SS-Panzerdivision, etc., for internal and external affairs. Their highest leader has been Heinrich Himmler. While the SA could be seen as kind of simple guard for internal affairs (police support troops), the SS was something like Hitler's personal version of modern Samurai - loyal only to the Shogun (Hitler), highly indoctrinated, highly trained, with their own rituals, culture and even own kind of "religion". It was seen as a high honor to be member of SS and even the Wehrmacht recognized their success in battle. However, they were the most brutal, inhumane troops of them all and caused the most suffering against civilians and minorities. After WW2 SS and SA were declared as "terror organisations" and forbidden; the 4 regular branches remained.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zahgurim7838 I've studied WW2 and known that there are differences in Wehrmacht, but your detailed explaination helped me a lot, thanks! It must have been a real pain in the ass for German soldiers to memorize all the ranks.^^ Like you said, after WW2 SS and SA were distinguished as war crime organizations, and their battle records and awards have been deleted and denied.

  • @zahgurim7838

    @zahgurim7838

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Ok. I don't want to sound like a "know-it-all", if I explain something to you you already have known before then this is not meant to be offensive. I still remember how they "taught" us the ranks^^. They gave us a list and two days to learn it. On the morning of second day they ordered us to visit the doc, but before we were allowed to enter the building they held up badges and 2 of us had to compete against each other in calling the rank of the shown badge. You had to have it right 2 times in a row otherwise you had to go back to the end of the line and do some push ups. It was like minus 20 degrees, we all wore tracksuits and were covered in sweat and some guys had to wait in front of the door for hours because they failed so many times^^. After about 4 days everybody had learned all ranks, nobody wanted to do push ups in the cold any more :)

  • @balajikrishnamurthy50
    @balajikrishnamurthy502 жыл бұрын

    they were giving awards at this time. amazing

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    By this time, medals such as Iron Cross were meaningless, so these medals were simply given to soldiers with small military accomplishments.

  • @zahgurim7838

    @zahgurim7838

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Correct; a pathetic attempt to keep morale high.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zahgurim7838 At least the medals can make the soldiers to keep on fighting...

  • @zahgurim7838

    @zahgurim7838

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Yes, but it dishonored the soldiers who achieved the same medals earlier in the war under harsher and more heroic circumstances.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zahgurim7838 That's another problem, but Berlin hanging at the edge of the war, German superiors didn't have time to consider about soldiers with heroic deeds in the past. They just wanted anyone who was still able to fight to keep on fighting till the end.

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland4 ай бұрын

    Great film. I love how she transformed from indoors private secretary to running through the dirt in soldier's uniform, almost flawlessly. She knew her survival depended on keeping up with the others.

  • @abdellahabouzaid1977

    @abdellahabouzaid1977

    Ай бұрын

    لا يوجد في الحرب سكرتير في الميدان هناك مجند يجب أن يحمي نفسه ويحمي أصدقاء ه مع محلولة الانتقاص من أعداءه

  • @nm7358
    @nm735811 ай бұрын

    5:22 In real life Constanze Manziarly ended split up from Junge when they entered the Russian occupied portion of Berlin when she went to find some civilian clothes. The last time Junge saw Manziarly, she was being taken towards a U-Bahn subway tunnel by two Soviet soldiers, still in her Wehrmacht uniform, ostensibly to "see her papers". She was never seen or heard from since, and her body has never been found. The most obvious reasons why she disappeared are horrible and better left unsaid, but it's 99,9% certain she never left that tunnel alive. For all the grittiness of Der Untertang and the desire to stick to what happened, that the circumstances behind Manziarly's dissapearance were not even suggested left me a bit puzzled when I saw the movie. All they needed to do was to contrast Junge's fate with Manziarly's, showing her following two Soviet soldiers in good trust and reassuring Junge that she'll be allright, then hit the audience with the whammy by mentioning at the end that while Junge survived to tell her tale, Manziarly was never heard from again. That would have been enough to allude to her horrible fate with tact while respecting the events. Instead, they just show her giving up, which was not what happened at all. It was a weird editorial decision.

  • @OsamaBknLaden

    @OsamaBknLaden

    9 ай бұрын

    Interesante. much detail lost in the film?

  • @hannahdyson7129

    @hannahdyson7129

    5 ай бұрын

    I suspect her fate is unknown,.

  • @LordVader1094

    @LordVader1094

    4 ай бұрын

    @@hannahdyson7129 She most certainly died, there'd be records if she was taken prisoner.

  • @dottyspotty9835

    @dottyspotty9835

    4 ай бұрын

    @@hannahdyson7129 She may have lived under another another name and lead a quiet life Quiet a few top official Nazis including Hitlers inner circle lived long lives with no records of them ever doing so

  • @schurlbirkenbach1995

    @schurlbirkenbach1995

    4 ай бұрын

    As a German I am not astonished about this editorial decision.

  • @albertnash888
    @albertnash888 Жыл бұрын

    Now this is a scene that is never used in the parodies.

  • @stipevukadin151

    @stipevukadin151

    5 ай бұрын

    Let's make one.😂

  • @MrZazzles94

    @MrZazzles94

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@stipevukadin15100:58 when the u-bahn sloppy toppy is too damn good

  • @Etendard1708

    @Etendard1708

    29 күн бұрын

    I think those parodies are not funny anyway especially if the viewers are fluent in German language.

  • @albertnash888

    @albertnash888

    27 күн бұрын

    @@stipevukadin151 I imagine a parody of this scene with lots of lamp shading and fourth wall breaking,

  • @AdolfoC10
    @AdolfoC1010 ай бұрын

    Poor soldier at 3:30, he was like accepting his destiny but with the idea to fight and defend those people...

  • @AK36677
    @AK36677 Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact in the real breakout there was a working Tiger 2 that helped the bunker staff and soldiers break out to the bridge. The movie sets it accurately the first group successfully crosses the bridge and the second group including Martin borman and other high ranking officials were slaughtered by the Russians.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    Many Germans tried to escape Berlin and reach Western Front to surrender to the Americans, but some of them didn't make it.

  • @AK36677

    @AK36677

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I've always been fascinated with the Battle of Berlin and researched it quite frequently. Must have been a crazy feeling realizing almost certain death if you didn't escape West to the Americans. Thanks for the awesome upload! Great movie.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AK36677 Thanks for watching!

  • @Nigscoop

    @Nigscoop

    Жыл бұрын

    US and soviet intelligence suggest martin borman did escape to south america and lived a long life

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nigscoop His body was found in 1970s in Berlin.

  • @salmansarwar9105
    @salmansarwar910511 ай бұрын

    I think general Wilhelm Mohnke intentionally made his way to Russian troops instead of surrendering to western allies because he was afraid that he would be trialed and sentenced for his involvement in massacres of Canadian, American and British soldiers on western front. He committed no such act on eastern front so Mohnke was expecting better treatment from Russians which they did. Upon surrendering Mohnke and Dr Schenk were treated by banquet by Vasily Chauky and he was imprisoned in officers camp in volvo along with German Field marshalls and generals. He never faced and died in Damp in 2001.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    11 ай бұрын

    Whatever reason did he choose to surrender, he managed to save his life.

  • @danieltobin4498

    @danieltobin4498

    4 ай бұрын

    He executed Western prisoners but didn't do the same with Eastern ones? Usually it's the opposite, so that is rather odd

  • @Etendard1708

    @Etendard1708

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@danieltobin4498Maybe has something to do with his assignment. Mohnke never served in Eastern Front for long time, he was assigned on the Western Front most of the time, until the defense of Berlin. So most of his atrocities under his command occured in the Western Front.

  • @vlad_47

    @vlad_47

    25 күн бұрын

    Small fry compared to what the US and UK pulled during the end and after the war in terms of harboring eastern front war criminals. Where do you think the Canadian ukrainian diasphora comes from?

  • @Etendard1708

    @Etendard1708

    25 күн бұрын

    vlad_47 small fry compared to Stalin had done even *before* Hitler came into power and *after* WW2

  • @seohyo-ryung8493
    @seohyo-ryung8493 Жыл бұрын

    "I don't want to go into Soviet gulag without ever getting to hold an iron cross"

  • @Rickasaurus
    @Rickasaurus8 ай бұрын

    5:23 So that’s what happens with Manziarly - she decides to give up and probably gets taken out when the second group tries to cross the bridge. In the theatrical release, she simply disappears from the movie during the escape

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    8 ай бұрын

    In actual history, she was taken by two Soviet soldiers into the tunnel, and was never seen since then.

  • @drakashrakenburgproduction5369

    @drakashrakenburgproduction5369

    4 ай бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVEI can’t even imagine what horror she faced down there.

  • @Edo_Aelio

    @Edo_Aelio

    28 күн бұрын

    @@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 In the film she looks +40 years old but in real life she was 25 at the time. Poor girls...

  • @peterlion4440
    @peterlion4440 Жыл бұрын

    This group was escaping aside a honouring celemony. So confused.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, due to the losing situation, the medal awards became less honourable by the time...

  • @Timmyboy02

    @Timmyboy02

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE still an iron cross

  • @chrisstucker1813

    @chrisstucker1813

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE the fact they’re continuing to fight bravely despite the utterly hopeless situation is deserving of an award itself

  • @michaelhaines3451
    @michaelhaines34514 ай бұрын

    On the last day of the war they were still awarding the EK2. Nice detail.

  • @PeteinFlorida
    @PeteinFlorida Жыл бұрын

    Where can I get a copy of the extended version?

  • @aztro4010

    @aztro4010

    Жыл бұрын

    The only copy you can find is a German DVD of the extended version.

  • @mauriciosfrecola3428

    @mauriciosfrecola3428

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aztro4010 this movie is in some streaming platform?

  • @idontknow2rhhfhf

    @idontknow2rhhfhf

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@mauriciosfrecola3428it's full movie is on KZread

  • @balajikrishnamurthy4864
    @balajikrishnamurthy4864 Жыл бұрын

    maziarly disappeared completely. her body was never found

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    That is a real mistery.

  • @hannahdyson7129

    @hannahdyson7129

    Жыл бұрын

    Possibility she may have lived if the Russians didn't find her

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hannahdyson7129 Sadly, there's no record that she lived.

  • @hannahdyson7129

    @hannahdyson7129

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE It's possible . She may have lived under another another name and lead a quiet life Quiet a few top official Nazis including Hitlers inner circle lived long lives with no records of them ever doing so

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hannahdyson7129 I hope she lived.

  • @burningtank160
    @burningtank16023 күн бұрын

    I feel bad for Gunsche when they're crouching, poor bastard has to basically lay down

  • @zarakdurrani7584

    @zarakdurrani7584

    9 күн бұрын

    Yeah he's a tall oaf.

  • @robowisanveithasung6022
    @robowisanveithasung6022 Жыл бұрын

    interestingly, all of the men being awarded are SS-Sturmmann which is equivalent to the Heer rank of Gefreiter which is then translated to Corporal. this is wrong however, as a Gefreiter was more so a senior private because his only reward was a higher pay

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    It's quite hard to match SS ranks to other nation's ranks.

  • @robowisanveithasung6022

    @robowisanveithasung6022

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE yes you are right. the SS ranks were very odd because it was inspired more so by the Freikorps of the Weimar, which were of course inspired by the German armies ranks

  • @lilerben7537

    @lilerben7537

    14 күн бұрын

    😊​@@robowisanveithasung6022

  • @risk2691
    @risk2691Ай бұрын

    It gives me Terminator 1 vibes. When Kyle Reese goes down to into some bunker or basement, filled with survivors and resistance.

  • @Ak47necros

    @Ak47necros

    16 күн бұрын

    XD

  • @agagqbq
    @agagqbq3 ай бұрын

    cut out scenes are usually lower quality but the scene at 3:32 should have been left in, really powerful scene because it introduces the hopelesness of the bunker perfectly this cut scene shows the bunker was defended by a soldier who you cant even tell if he was in civilian clothes and volkssturm who gave up fighting

  • @lekal6247
    @lekal6247 Жыл бұрын

    There was another comment talking about how the guard at one railway station closed the gates so they had to take a different route? I will see what video it was, quite the interesting story

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't heard about that one.

  • @JohnSBodle

    @JohnSBodle

    Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Mark Felton discusses that in his series about Martin Bormann's demise. I don't remember the specific video but it's a great watch.

  • @Quelle87sFk
    @Quelle87sFk Жыл бұрын

    Einer der Besten deutschen Filme!

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    Ja!

  • @frankvontrier7663

    @frankvontrier7663

    Ай бұрын

    @Quelle87sFk Einst hatte unser Volk mehr leisten können als dies!

  • @user-kv1dn5se8b
    @user-kv1dn5se8b2 жыл бұрын

    저런 상황에서도 상장 수여식을 하네요..

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    패전 직전까지 가니 훈장이 의미가 없어져서 그냥 작은 전공만 세워도 막 뿌렸습니다.

  • @user-kv1dn5se8b

    @user-kv1dn5se8b

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE 근데 일찍 일어나시네요 ㄷㄷ 전 야간 알바 끝나고 이제 자려고 합니다

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-kv1dn5se8b 저는 아침 알바 가는 중입니다 ㅋㅋㅋ 안녕히 주무세요

  • @user-kv1dn5se8b

    @user-kv1dn5se8b

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 반갑네요 무슨 알바 하시나요 전 편의점이용

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-kv1dn5se8b 전 아버지 회사 일 돕고 있습니다 ㅋㅋㅋ

  • @chrisr6142
    @chrisr61425 ай бұрын

    Very few media remind me of the sheer desperation and suicidal struggle in the Terminator series' future war scenes. This one does.

  • @francoisdecharette9844
    @francoisdecharette98442 жыл бұрын

    2:15 were those the second group or the Soviets they do look like soviets from far away but its more logical that they are german

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    They were the second group of German soldiers which tried to escape, and they are getting slaughtered by the Soviets.

  • @zahgurim7838

    @zahgurim7838

    2 жыл бұрын

    The subtitle fails here; Traudl says "there come the others", not "here they come".

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zahgurim7838 I don't speak German (I'm Korean), so I tried to translate the German subtitle contained in the DVD into English. Although there might be many misinterpretations because the subtitle doesn't completely match what the character actually says. It seems that the subtitle is based on the film's script. Thanks for letting me know, I'll correct the subtitle.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zahgurim7838 Can you tell me if there are any more misinterpretations in my other deleted scene videos? It would be very helpful if you let me know. Thanks!

  • @zahgurim7838

    @zahgurim7838

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I'll watch them again and will comment if I find something else. It is not that the english subtitles are bad, but German sometimes can be a very complex language and hard to put in just a few words.

  • @jephrokimbo9050
    @jephrokimbo9050 Жыл бұрын

    as horrific as this portrays life in april 1945, NOTHING compares to the REAL HORRORS of the tremendous amount of suffering endured by millions of people throughout europe. TOO NUMEROUS TO COUNT!

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree.

  • @obiwankenobi5769

    @obiwankenobi5769

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget Asia as well

  • @nodinitiative

    @nodinitiative

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup, those Nazis just got a small taste of what they dished out

  • @jemilambi
    @jemilambiСағат бұрын

    One of the most accurate WWII movie

  • @inquisitorkrieger8171
    @inquisitorkrieger817111 ай бұрын

    Man I hate when they cut scenes. It often leaves out so much character underline.

  • @bobg6638
    @bobg66384 ай бұрын

    Still handing out medals . . . nuts.

  • @CB-rb7fi

    @CB-rb7fi

    Ай бұрын

    It has been said the last two Iron Cross medals were given to two French SS of the “Charlemagne” Division. They were the only Axis troops who broke through the Russian ring around Berlin.

  • @larry1824
    @larry18244 ай бұрын

    Essential movie

  • @Pan472
    @Pan4724 күн бұрын

    Traudl did NOT deserve to go what she went through. She was so young, and she got recruited not knowing how evil Hitler was. Or knowing what his decisions caused, until she forced to see them firsthand.

  • @The_OneManCrowd

    @The_OneManCrowd

    2 күн бұрын

    Like working for evil Joe Xiden and his marxist globo cronies. Poor sheep have no idea.

  • @lmc4964
    @lmc4964 Жыл бұрын

    the giving out medals bit is lol , you think they would all look at each other and fk this im off. The absurdity humans are capable of

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree.

  • @giovannicervantes2053

    @giovannicervantes2053

    3 ай бұрын

    And what sucks worse is being one of those "every man for themselves" soldiers would put a target on your back brighter than the sun for both sides

  • @arielg7000
    @arielg70002 жыл бұрын

    so cool man

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @arielg7000

    @arielg7000

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE ו ur wellcome

  • @user-lg7ui3ho6h
    @user-lg7ui3ho6h2 жыл бұрын

    희귀한 영상 보여주심에 정말 감사드립니다! 다만 이해가 안 되는 점이 있는데 0:20 ~ 0:22 부근에서 중절모를 쓴 시민들이 톱으로 자르고 있는 것이 무엇인가요? 짐승의 사체인 줄 알았는데 다시 보니 피가 잘 안 보여서요....

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    동물 사체가 맞는 것 같습니다. 아마 소나 말인 것 같네요. 베를린 전투 당시 소련군의 포위망 때문에 식량 공급이 끊겨서, 베를린 시민들은 아무거나 닥치는 대로 먹었다고 합니다. 피가 안 나오는 이유는 저도 잘 모르겠네요...

  • @GRANOLA77

    @GRANOLA77

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE If the carcass is old enough, the blood is dried meaning it won’t pour out like a fresh body.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GRANOLA77 Thanks for noticing!

  • @audiquattros-rf1of

    @audiquattros-rf1of

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE 죽었으니 심장이 안뛸테고 그럼 피도 안나오겠지요 ㅎㅎ

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@audiquattros-rf1of 죽은지 얼마 안됐으면 나올텐데, 죽은지 좀 오래된것 같네요

  • @h1ob355
    @h1ob3554 ай бұрын

    There are always two parts of audience: The ones who are fully aware of the historical background, watching the movie with a differentiated approach. And then the others - well, like that guy I remember from cinema, after watching "James Ryan" in 1998 who complained about some of the German tanks having the wrong chassis.................... No matter how brillant a director might be - idiots will always see (or NOT see) what they want.

  • @projektkobra2247

    @projektkobra2247

    4 ай бұрын

    Lots of men are detail oriented....you need these men to keep your bridges from collapsing, and your fridge working...don't be a smug dick.

  • @samy7013
    @samy7013 Жыл бұрын

    Traudl looks frikkin’ hot in a battle uniform. Just sayin’.

  • @EperogiLimousine

    @EperogiLimousine

    4 ай бұрын

    True

  • @mirrorblue100

    @mirrorblue100

    Ай бұрын

    Wait till you see her in her battle bikini.

  • @luisr.6543

    @luisr.6543

    Ай бұрын

    Simp

  • @Fearless_on_my_Breath

    @Fearless_on_my_Breath

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@luisr.6543 Yea lol

  • @somekid-ze8ie
    @somekid-ze8ie4 ай бұрын

    she's watching the guy with his guts hanging out

  • @nikaluss5946
    @nikaluss5946 Жыл бұрын

    “One day the world will know that I was right”

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    Now we all know.

  • @nikaluss5946

    @nikaluss5946

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE he’s my biggest hero, a century ahead of his time. He saw the beast’s face while the rest of the west kissed it for political gain.

  • @SarthakGanguly

    @SarthakGanguly

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, that Nazism was a criminal ideology.

  • @panzerwaffel5281
    @panzerwaffel52814 ай бұрын

    This scane is propably inspired by the film 'Stalingrad' (1993)

  • @cenktoplar8378
    @cenktoplar83784 ай бұрын

    ''Hilfeeeeeennnn !''

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan41644 ай бұрын

    The escape was only partially successful. 😮

  • @cjddfgd4331
    @cjddfgd43314 ай бұрын

    اسم الفيلم

  • @wimweender1306
    @wimweender13064 ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @emirvmendoza
    @emirvmendozaАй бұрын

    0:24 What were they cutting?

  • @user-oz9qs2md5c

    @user-oz9qs2md5c

    Ай бұрын

    Тот же вопрос

  • @brinsonharris9816

    @brinsonharris9816

    Ай бұрын

    They were cutting meat from a dead horse.

  • @user-oz9qs2md5c

    @user-oz9qs2md5c

    Ай бұрын

    @@brinsonharris9816 так вот что они собрались пожрать, хорошо что не человек

  • @brinsonharris9816

    @brinsonharris9816

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-oz9qs2md5cIt was not uncommon in the last few months of the war. Horses were used to move supplies as motor fuel became exhausted, and animals killed by Allied attacks were often butchered where they fell by desperate Germans, civilians and soldiers alike.

  • @cdacroixrouge8600
    @cdacroixrouge86002 жыл бұрын

    4.50 oberguppenfuhrer krukenberg?

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe...

  • @hujar5011

    @hujar5011

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE that was actually Max Müller, Dr. Ernst-Günther Schenck's adjutant, he mostly is seen with the Dr. throughout the movie.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hujar5011 Yes, and he died during the escape.

  • @jay_fp5019

    @jay_fp5019

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hujar5011 The officer handing out the iron crosses at 4:50 is not Max Mueller. As CDA Croix Rouge suggested, it could be indeed Krukenberg decorating some of his Nordland troops.

  • @chrisstucker1813

    @chrisstucker1813

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought kruckenberg was brigade leader, not obergruppenfuherer

  • @shubhang722
    @shubhang7222 жыл бұрын

    Who died in the end? Is it Martin borrman?

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope, he is Max Müller. Müller was a German SS captain and Ernst-Günther Schenck's adjutant.

  • @JS-wp4gs

    @JS-wp4gs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE No, whoever that was was an army major, not an SS captain, per the dialog

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JS-wp4gs They called Müller to take cover. It is Müller.

  • @Tikus_90

    @Tikus_90

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought he was the chauffeur.

  • @Tikus_90

    @Tikus_90

    Жыл бұрын

    BTW, Martin Bormann is another MIA Jimmy hoffa, unsolved mystery.

  • @sherman4ever86
    @sherman4ever8629 күн бұрын

    Такова была расплата за совершенные Германией фашистские преступления против Советского народа и других народов мира!

  • @zarakdurrani7584

    @zarakdurrani7584

    9 күн бұрын

    Not just soviets but polish, serbs, greeks and other nationalistic as well.

  • @rc59191
    @rc59191 Жыл бұрын

    Lol a medal for delivering messages wish the place I worked at would give me a medal for doing my job.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    The medals were meaningless at that time, so they just gave them away for small deeds.

  • @MisoElEven

    @MisoElEven

    Жыл бұрын

    Hitler got one for the same thing..when there are no other means of communication a man has to personally deliver it - considering how fragmented Berlin got in its last moments it was certainly no easy task

  • @tavish4699

    @tavish4699

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@KORHISTORYARCHIVEnot a small deed at all

  • @josephsandoval9825
    @josephsandoval98253 ай бұрын

    No subtitles? Lol

  • @lovechineseforever9434
    @lovechineseforever9434Ай бұрын

    WHAT HAVE WE LEARN?

  • @frankhernandez6883

    @frankhernandez6883

    12 күн бұрын

    that Russians are STILL SOBs

  • @EughhBrothereughh
    @EughhBrothereughh Жыл бұрын

    This is so satisfying

  • @rogersgatty3644
    @rogersgatty36444 ай бұрын

    The extended version 170 mn

  • @anthemsofeurope2408
    @anthemsofeurope2408 Жыл бұрын

    Who were "the others" in 6:07? Any historic persons?

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    No, I think they are just bunch of German soldiers.

  • @stoneylonesome4062

    @stoneylonesome4062

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Martin Bormann was among them.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stoneylonesome4062 Possible. He was later found killed during the escape.

  • @craigflanagan-qo7zp
    @craigflanagan-qo7zpАй бұрын

    Those civilians sawing up a corpse at the beginning?

  • @DominionSorcerer

    @DominionSorcerer

    28 күн бұрын

    A dead horse.

  • @MrDaiseymay
    @MrDaiseymay5 ай бұрын

    YEP--War is Terrible; Best not to start one, isn't it?

  • @haikeaintiaani9183
    @haikeaintiaani91834 ай бұрын

    some good ass german stuff

  • @jamesbulldogmiller
    @jamesbulldogmiller5 ай бұрын

    @ 4:55 Nichtraucher = non smoking car

  • @alonzocalvillo6702
    @alonzocalvillo67024 ай бұрын

    Now I want to see the whole movie!

  • @michaelyates5976
    @michaelyates59764 ай бұрын

    Ivan's revenge.

  • @kratos3211
    @kratos3211Ай бұрын

    0:22 are they chopping body?!!

  • @danielcotts8673

    @danielcotts8673

    28 күн бұрын

    My guess is a dead horse.

  • @williamoloughlin8298
    @williamoloughlin82984 ай бұрын

    I watched a new colourised doco, think it was World at War, covering the final 2 weeks of Berlin. These stats I remember....over 100,000 women raped by Russian infantry (some many times over and by groups) and 224,000 men and boys (from 10yrs) killed defending the city. (940,000+ Russians attacking). On average, that's one defender killed every minute 24/7. The Russians were finally ordered not to rape and the NKVD began executing their own men to enforce it.

  • @user-yn3et7lp9x

    @user-yn3et7lp9x

    Ай бұрын

    It's a lie. In the Red Army, throughout the war, those who killed civilians, raped or looted were shot on the spot. Unlike the German army

  • @kurmakayev

    @kurmakayev

    Ай бұрын

    So you feel very sad for those poor women of Berlin, right? How about starved million in Leningrad, or millions bombed to death in Stalingrad, Kiev, Sevastopol? Not so much, right - your sympathies are with the “civilised Europeans”?

  • @user-mh4vf6hw8z

    @user-mh4vf6hw8z

    Ай бұрын

    On August 23, 1942, Stalingrad was subjected to the first massive aerial bombardment, which literally crushed it to the ground. They bombed in a continuous carpet, without selecting individual targets. The Luftwaffe pilots had one task - to wipe the city off the face of the earth. According to historians, between 40 and 90 thousand people died. About 50 thousand were injured. 309 city enterprises were destroyed.

  • @vlad_47

    @vlad_47

    25 күн бұрын

    In 1941 Germany starved 2 million Soviet PoWs to death.

  • @Savchenkov1
    @Savchenkov1Ай бұрын

    Who in their right mind would don an SS uniform when you're trying to break out of a city surrounded by Russians?

  • @WW1Fanatic
    @WW1Fanatic4 ай бұрын

    Why am I only seeing a woman wearing a stahlhelm now💀

  • @braze6798
    @braze679810 ай бұрын

    흡사 북한 인민군대에게 국군이 신나게 학살당하고 서울을 빼앗긴 상황이네요

  • @brianabigail4971

    @brianabigail4971

    5 ай бұрын

    Or it's more like DPRK soldiers were trapped in Seoul while they were encircled by the US Marine came from Incheon and UN from south

  • @MegaKaiser45
    @MegaKaiser4517 күн бұрын

    Exodus.

  • @dilltdog1158
    @dilltdog1158Ай бұрын

    Karma.

  • @frankvontrier7663

    @frankvontrier7663

    Ай бұрын

    @dilltdog1158 Oh ja das Karma wird noch für viele kommen.

  • @romanojansz7276
    @romanojansz72764 ай бұрын

    in 2024 sunjeew thug solgers 🔱 soldiers lost the war in kahathuduwa to jambugasmula war then his general in lost pow by alliance ⚔️ and slivaflash 🗡️ shit and some undawould seen by unp kalo jayasuria mp 🇱🇰 beet him off but his criminal patalia 🔱 was killed

  • @cfl_finn4831
    @cfl_finn4831 Жыл бұрын

    If WW2 proved something its that Germans are warriors

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    They were in combat.

  • @psilobom

    @psilobom

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't classify warriors as an army known for feeding cripples, boys, and old men into the meet grinder. The meet grinder they created.

  • @tavish4699

    @tavish4699

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@psilobomas if the russians were any fucking better ....😂 or the poles or the french with their pesky resistance

  • @thanoscube8573

    @thanoscube8573

    5 ай бұрын

    No they were barbarians who couldn't get a grasp of logic

  • @pendoravo417

    @pendoravo417

    5 ай бұрын

    Nazis proved their incompetence by destroying their own country.

  • @arielg7000
    @arielg7000 Жыл бұрын

    ho shit man not cool

  • @Emanresuadeen
    @Emanresuadeen Жыл бұрын

    These holdouts were the hardest of the hardcore Nazis that managed to survive. They were the perpetrators of extermination mass murders, not heroes.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah right.

  • @Emanresuadeen

    @Emanresuadeen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Yeah, right.

  • @tavish4699

    @tavish4699

    5 ай бұрын

    No not really They just knew that the russians dont take prisoners and risk to get killed so close to Victory

  • @thombienaturlich6830

    @thombienaturlich6830

    4 ай бұрын

    Es waren Menschen die um ihr Überleben kämpften! Und wenn sie schon von Mördern sprechen, das waren jene die den Befehl gaben Deutsche Zivilisten zu 100000 mit Bomben-/Spreng-/ und sogar Napalm(!) zu ermorden! Oder Deutsche Soldaten auf den Rheinwiesenlagern zu 100000 zu ermorden. Oder die bereits Gefangene Deutsche Soldaten mit Genickschuß zu 100000 ermordeten. Von den in die Millionen gehenden Vergewaltigungs(morden) nicht zu reden! Also Vorsicht mit diesem Propagandamüll a'la Sefton Delmer, denn Typen wie er und Ilja Ehrenburg oder auch ein Luftmarshal Harris waren Kriegsverbrecher! Möge Karma alle Lügner ereilen!

  • @agagqbq

    @agagqbq

    3 ай бұрын

    what is the point of making up your own history? the majority of the city defenders were kids, volkssturm and random servicemen converted into ground troops(why you see different uniforms on almost all soldiers, especially famous for this are luftwaffe) almost every surviving army was pinned down in other battles which is why they couldnt support the city

  • @vladcraioveanu233
    @vladcraioveanu233Ай бұрын

    soon all over Europe again, thanks to the USA "ally" and hegemon.

  • @vlad_47

    @vlad_47

    25 күн бұрын

    Its what the euro sheeps want tho

  • @grossograndissimo
    @grossograndissimo4 ай бұрын

    Germans, should have stayed at home!

  • @braze6798
    @braze679810 ай бұрын

    그리고 얼마안가 베를린과 베를린 인민들은 소련인민군에 의해 히틀러 정권으로부터 해방됩니다

  • @jimmiller5600
    @jimmiller56004 ай бұрын

    I remember this one. An angry guy revolted. Then they let him run for office. He told his supporters that they were "victims" and that he would "make them great again". This is how it ended.

  • @TheNdh00

    @TheNdh00

    4 ай бұрын

    sounds familiar.

  • @__hjg__2123

    @__hjg__2123

    4 ай бұрын

    hope you get better.

  • @barrywentworth4472

    @barrywentworth4472

    4 ай бұрын

    Better get back on your meds, lefty.

  • @worldofdoom995

    @worldofdoom995

    4 ай бұрын

    Martin Luther King?

  • @warnpassion
    @warnpassion Жыл бұрын

    Coming soon to Kiev.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    More like Moscow.

  • @warnpassion

    @warnpassion

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I doubt that, well, at least in the near term. The Russians just displayed a small demo of this in Bakhmut.

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@warnpassion They are literally using their soldiers as cannon fodders

  • @warnpassion

    @warnpassion

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Irrespective of their losses and desperate tactics, they are certainly gaining ground.

  • @notamoonraker

    @notamoonraker

    Жыл бұрын

    ... by downgrading Russia's status below China. Congrats Putin. China, your junior become your senior now.

  • @hungsolow7090
    @hungsolow7090 Жыл бұрын

    Why are they running ? they wanted Russia right ?well they got Russia

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    They never wanted Russia...

  • @buzznfrog6702

    @buzznfrog6702

    Жыл бұрын

    They wanted to stop the bolsheviks

  • @raidang

    @raidang

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@KORHISTORYARCHIVEthey wanted the Nazi ideology has always been to push East to Soviet Union the war declaration with France and Britain only postponed their mission

  • @georgemiller151
    @georgemiller15117 күн бұрын

    I’m sorry to see that some lived. I was rooting for the Russians.

  • @johnhorne2012
    @johnhorne201220 күн бұрын

    Ratzi's!

  • @PeteinFlorida
    @PeteinFlorida Жыл бұрын

    Where can I get a copy of the extended version?

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    It is in a German 3-disc DVD set.

  • @PeteinFlorida

    @PeteinFlorida

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KORHISTORYARCHIVE I can’t find it here in the states

  • @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    @KORHISTORYARCHIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PeteinFlorida It was released in 2004. You're gonna have to find an used one.