DePaul Basketball: The Most Hopeless Program in America

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The DePaul Blue Demons recently tipped off their 2023-24 season, and it couldn't have started any worse, as they lost back to back home games to Purdue Fort Wayne and Long Beach State. These defeats are just another nail in the coffin of a program that has been dead for quite some time. DePaul hasn't been to an NCAA Tournament since 2004, which is the longest drought of any major conference team, and they've had more head coaches in that span than seasons above .500. On top of that, DePaul is also facing a major attendance crisis thanks to an inconvenient arena location, and the recruiting hotbed that was once Chicago has become dilapidated due to the prep school revolution taking over the sport. Needless to say, DePaul is at rock bottom, and it doesn't look like things are getting any better.
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  • @maxrodrigues3991
    @maxrodrigues39916 ай бұрын

    I've been a DePaul fan for about 15 years now. The fact we had a team with two current NBA players (Paul Reed and Max Strus) and didn't make the tournament that year shows the lack of leadership this program has.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely insane to think about. Plus the team with Javon Freeman-Liberty and David Jones in 2021 should've been better too

  • @FrodisRoom
    @FrodisRoom7 ай бұрын

    You forgot to mention the rise of Loyola and Northwestern's programs, which compete with Depaul for fan and recruit's attention.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Idk if that should matter all that much honestly. With recruiting going more national it's easier to bring in players from other areas. Plus it's not like DePaul was good when Northwestern and Loyola were both bad for the majority of the 21st century. I think they can all coexist easily.

  • @ejslemp5342

    @ejslemp5342

    4 ай бұрын

    You took the words out of my mouth. The new top private Catholic university basketball program in Chicago is Loyola and not DePaul

  • @jakobemathias

    @jakobemathias

    3 ай бұрын

    Northwestern recruits a different kind of kid, given academics. DePaul is a blue collar, gritty city school, just like Loyola. No reason DePaul can’t get back to at least a Loyola level.

  • @jakobemathias

    @jakobemathias

    3 ай бұрын

    Loyola will never have the allure of DePaul’s program, recent success notwithstanding. Big East Conference, name schools to compete with. Loyola plays who?

  • @ziggidy_bop7471
    @ziggidy_bop74718 ай бұрын

    I wonder if they mistakingly thought Stubblefield's connection to Lou Henson was going to allow him to build a recruiting connection with Chicago. It makes 0 sense because their time together at NMSU was 16 years prior to Depaul hiring him, but their inability to make a good athletics decsion would make it believable.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    Hahaha yeah I could see that being brought up honestly.

  • @bryannixon4297
    @bryannixon42978 ай бұрын

    DePaul SHOULD be a great program.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Just need to get the right coach and make some institutional changes. I think they’re doing well in terms of NIL stuff so that could help down the line.

  • @5IvanDrago5
    @5IvanDrago5Ай бұрын

    Born in 1977 and growing up near Dayton Ohio. The Blue Demons on WGN where my childhood. Loved the mascot and cool uniforms and eventually got old enough to appreciate the team. Terry Cummins, Dallas Comegys, Rod Strickland, Lou Edwards, its sad to see this program like this. Depaul and Dayton back in the 80's and early 90/s had GREAT games.

  • @anthonytaylor7928
    @anthonytaylor79288 ай бұрын

    Its a dam shame what happened to DePaul

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely is. No tournament since 2004 is inexcusable.

  • @gabrielperez82204
    @gabrielperez822048 ай бұрын

    Bobby it’s impossible for you to make a bad video my dude. Another 🔥 vid

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @RhinoGore38
    @RhinoGore384 ай бұрын

    As a DePaul alum, the university is kinda screwed when it comes to the arena, the area around the main non-downtown campus is a fancy ass rich ass area of Chicago, but the school gentrified the area a lot and they didnt capitalize on buying land when it was cheap. There's like three things they can do to put a decent sized arena on campus 1. Tear down the DePaul welcome center, I visited this building once during orientation and never again for 4 years. It's useless, some perks is that it comes with a parking lot for extra arena space, but its around a large residential area. 2. Tear down Wish Field/Cacciatore Stadium, controversial cause its the field where soccer/softball plays but its the biggest open field on campus. 3. Buy out and reutilize the McCormack Row House District, for some reason between Wish Field and the Music School building there's a random assortment of townhomes within our campus. Personally I don't like these rich people on campus, so buy them out and say adios. Could make a decent sized campus.

  • @isthatyoujaunwayne4183

    @isthatyoujaunwayne4183

    3 ай бұрын

    Genius so much waste potential

  • @jaylenbarnes2.079
    @jaylenbarnes2.0798 ай бұрын

    Love the vids Bobby

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @kevlovelaughter
    @kevlovelaughter7 ай бұрын

    Good video. The move to south loop has been devastating to the program and fanbase. Was Rosemont better no, but at least more showed up at games. Lots of games now attendance not even reaching 1k. Sadly I think the time they possibly had promise was missed when the Purnell hire was made. In my opinion they would have been better off letting Tom K or David B take over the program. Maybe one day we'll get surprised with a revival of the old days, one could only hope.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Appreciate it. And yeah I think if I had to pick the Purnell miss was probably the most devastating. Once he flopped the hole was so deep to climb out of.

  • @TomTuohy

    @TomTuohy

    5 ай бұрын

    @@BobbyDouglasBasketball I was told yesterday that Purnell just phoned it in. He opened the gym for practice and closed it when they were done. He didn't work his high-paying job at all. The hires since Kennedy have been nothing short of bewildering. Although I would give some credit for the first Leitao hire. The second time was just bizarre. The guy couldn't get a job if he paid his way, and we dragged him off the end of the Missouri bench, where he was a charity hire from the development league by the head coach. The five straight last-place finishes were not unexpected. ( the last coming after he was extended!)

  • @isthatyoujaunwayne4183
    @isthatyoujaunwayne41833 ай бұрын

    Thanks I went here for under grad and grad we have been dog crap since day one. I wish we had a football team at this point. More likely we get that than a winning hoops program at this point.

  • @misterdrummings
    @misterdrummings7 ай бұрын

    I like Coach Stubbs and want the program to succeed but thus far we're not seeing it, though they did have a few good wins last season and lost some close games. Is it a matter of not being able to recruit the right players?

  • @nicktackes3179

    @nicktackes3179

    7 ай бұрын

    he can't develop young players. he never plays freshmen regardless of how quality they are from H.S. He has to rely on senior grads that transfer in that have been developed by their previous coach. fire him immediately

  • @TJ-et8sw

    @TJ-et8sw

    7 ай бұрын

    @@nicktackes3179 You nailed it. They failed to develop Zion Cruz and Ahamad Bynum. And now Caleb Murphy and Elijah Fisher are regressing. They're getting good recruits and doing nothing with them. Ed Cooley and Shaka Smart would have won a lot more games if they were coaching these players.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah I think it's a coaching/development thing. They've had decent talent it just never seems to click.

  • @TravelingNomad100
    @TravelingNomad1005 ай бұрын

    The program has been a disgrace for years, Jean Lenti Ponsetto was probably one of the worst athletic directors ever the only reason she kept her job for so long is her name (family ties) recognition at the university. Having a stadium in the middle of the suburbs didn't help. As a life long DePaul fan and Alum I haven't been to a game in 20 years and have no desire to go with the product they are putting on the floor.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    5 ай бұрын

    Hopefully they show some life now that Stubbs is out. Looks like they had a decent showing (for them) against Marquette tonight.

  • @uptemposystem
    @uptemposystem7 ай бұрын

    It’s crazy that they’ve been in the Big East more than Xavier, Butler and Creighton. And those 3 have had success since they’ve joined 2013.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah everyone has had someone level of success in the new Big East. Total failure.

  • @michaelkenny7652

    @michaelkenny7652

    5 ай бұрын

    Butler and Xavier were already competing well nationally. Creighton is a bit of a surprise except Greg McDermott is probably one of the best College coaches in the country and can recruit to his system.

  • @TomTuohy

    @TomTuohy

    5 ай бұрын

    Here is what is crazier - I heard this on ESPN - " If they could just get rid of DePaul and replace them with Dayton, the Big East would have no rival." Let that sink in.

  • @jakobemathias
    @jakobemathias3 ай бұрын

    Prior to DePaul’s ascendancy to national prominence in the late 70’s into the late 80’s, it was a respectable regional program. All under Ray Meyer. Meyer hit the big time with local Chicago kids, Mark Aguirre being most prominent. Ray retired and pretty much forced DePaul to hire his son, Joey. At best an ok coach who lived off prior recruits and the reputation the program built. Never should have been hired. The AD, Lentil Ponsetto is primarily to blame. She took a jewel of a program and made poor coaching hires. Way out of her league. After Joey was fired, she should have brought in someone familiar with the high school programs in the Chicago area. Even under Joey, they relied too often on recruiting outside of Chicago. The new new arena is actually a plus vs. the old Rosemont Horizon. Big East schools like Creighton, Marquette, Xavier - all in smaller Midwest cities, all Catholic, have lots of recent success nationally. Absolutely no reason DePaul, in the major market of Chicago, can’t get solid recruits. Let’s see what the former Ohio St. coach can do; prior to OSU, was at Xavier.

  • @uptemposystem
    @uptemposystem7 ай бұрын

    Would going to another conference help? Maybe A-10, or the American Athletic Conference?

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Honestly I think that would make it worse. DePaul's only real selling point right now is the Big East membership.

  • @michaelkenny7652

    @michaelkenny7652

    5 ай бұрын

    It would for sure and they should the powers that be need to swallow their pride.

  • @nicktackes3179

    @nicktackes3179

    11 күн бұрын

    no way you leave a power conference. too much money and visibility that you would walk away from.

  • @TomTuohy
    @TomTuohy7 ай бұрын

    They never recruited Illinois suburbs and paid the price. To think they had the opportunity to bring Illinois basketball royalty and legend with a Duke pedigree and passed?? Every report states Scheyer was bitterly disappointed he didn’t get the job. Did he ever dodge a bullet. Although I am convinced his recruiting would have revived DePaul, I’m sure he’s happy with his $7 million a year as Coach Ks successor. DePaul has had a small minded mentality forever. And this is what they got and deserve for the choices they made.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep the Scheyer miss was just dumbfounding. I mean look at what Northwestern has done with a guy pretty much with the same pedigree and background. Just crazy to think DePaul didn't see the value in hiring local.

  • @michaelkenny7652

    @michaelkenny7652

    5 ай бұрын

    Agreed and good insight.

  • @elliemyers6435

    @elliemyers6435

    5 ай бұрын

    There has to be more to the Scheyer story that hasn't revealed itself....I wonder if at some point he found out he was going to be coach K's successor and removed himself, and that's not being reported, because it makes absolutely no sense that Depaul would pass on him. Literally no sense at all.

  • @TomTuohy

    @TomTuohy

    5 ай бұрын

    @@elliemyers6435 No more to the story than those who run the university thought it would be a risk to hire someone from the area because of the fallout if he was fired. That type of scarcity thinking has been DePaul's trademark and has given us this long-standing mediocrity.

  • @TomTuohy

    @TomTuohy

    5 ай бұрын

    Actually, mediocre would be a giant step up from what the program is now.

  • @anthonytaylor7928
    @anthonytaylor79288 ай бұрын

    Dang DePaul used to be the cool trendy school to watch on tv what happened??

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    A whole bunch of stuff unfortunately lol

  • @DrystHawk

    @DrystHawk

    7 ай бұрын

    @@BobbyDouglasBasketball DePaul can still be a good program. They just need the right coach who’s good at recruiting and is willing to build them back up. Problem is not many good coaches want to go to DePaul to do just that.

  • @jakobemathias

    @jakobemathias

    3 ай бұрын

    Started with a weak AD who ruined the franchise.

  • @irvinkiblerjr972
    @irvinkiblerjr9726 ай бұрын

    Maybe try this move back into the on campus arena If I'm not mistaken I remember the NIT game against Cincinnati many many years ago was rocking because the Rosemont horizon was booked that night and even though it was a small crowd it was a great atmosphere maybe try to dip and get a couple of juco ( it worked with Kevin Edwards ) that are from Chicago but anything to get to 500 If you get to 500 you'll at least make the NIT and maybe get a home game or two that's what they should shoot for now remember you have to crawl before you can walk ? Regardless maybe once again a packed house can chant " THE THREE POINT PLAY "

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    6 ай бұрын

    Right. I think there are things DePaul can do to bolster some level of enthusiasm. Starts with a new coaching staff, and then try to get some games on campus.

  • @samsobkov5553

    @samsobkov5553

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@BobbyDouglasBasketball well done mate!! great video. seriously hoping DePaul can turn it around starting today. Bryce Drew next up ??

  • @samsobkov5553

    @samsobkov5553

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BobbyDouglasBasketball im curious, who would you hire if you were DePaul's AD?

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    6 ай бұрын

    @@samsobkov5553 I think my first call is Brian Wardle from Bradley. Outside of him Bryce Drew, Josh Schertz, Ron Hunter are guys I’d like too. Will Wade would be awesome but my guess is that he gets a bigger job.

  • @Dopeboynumba1
    @Dopeboynumba14 ай бұрын

    Here after DePaul went winless in big east play

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    4 ай бұрын

    Maybe they shock the world against Seton Hall this week

  • @dsc4178
    @dsc41784 ай бұрын

    DePaul hasn't been good since the 1980's, and was only great from 1978-1983. Mark Aguirre made them great, Terry Cummings, then they faded. Aguirre now works to recruit players for next year at DePaul.

  • @mongoslade277

    @mongoslade277

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. That Joey Meyer (nepotism) hire killed that program

  • @bobbyyoung4243

    @bobbyyoung4243

    11 күн бұрын

    Ray put the program on the map!!

  • @pickuptruck8802
    @pickuptruck88028 ай бұрын

    Yes! My irrelevant school finally has a video on how irrelevant they are.

  • @pickuptruck8802

    @pickuptruck8802

    8 ай бұрын

    Jean ruined our program big time

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed. It's unfathomable that someone could keep control of the athletic department for that long while the only revenue generating sport continues to fall apart.

  • @brendanconnell427
    @brendanconnell4278 ай бұрын

    Wait so did kenny payne not want to come to depaul or did depaul not want kenny?

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    The reports were that Kenny elected to stay with the Knicks at the time.

  • @michaelkenny7652
    @michaelkenny76525 ай бұрын

    They're in the Midwest.........It was not a good move moving to the Big East they are overmatched for the most part...... not saying they can't compete nationally but they would be better off in a smaller Conference like Conference USA so they can win some games and make the dance. It's time for the powers that be to swallow their pride.

  • @JordanLittlejohn-jl4lj

    @JordanLittlejohn-jl4lj

    4 ай бұрын

    There is no such place :Midwest , the mid north, mid south . DePaul need to hire the coach and give him his support and build a relationship with coaches in the city and burbs. Go DePaul.

  • @scottmeskan1931
    @scottmeskan19318 ай бұрын

    Spot on.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    Appreciate it!

  • @gregoryrudolph
    @gregoryrudolph8 ай бұрын

    Everything in this video is on point I don’t know where they turn from here but something has to be done with this program. I’m a DePaul fan but I hate to say that DePaul is a joke and that’s hard to say coming from me because almost my entire family went to DePaul.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    It's been tough sledding for sure. At least the impending new coaching hire could bring some hope.

  • @nicktackes3179
    @nicktackes31797 ай бұрын

    Dwayne Peavy, the AD, somehow decided that Stubblefield was a better hire than Jon Scheyer, local Illinois basketball hero, Coach K protege and a guy that desperately wanted the job. Peavy should be fired immediately on the basis of that inexcusable decision. fire Stubbs right now. I would go with Bob Huggins at this point.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah I really don't know what Peevy was thinking. Off the top of my head I think someone like Tom Crean could work.

  • @TomTuohy

    @TomTuohy

    5 ай бұрын

    From everything I heard, Peevy wanted Scheyer and was overruled by those at Depaul, who historically have no business making sports decisions but continue to do so with predictable results.

  • @nicktackes3179

    @nicktackes3179

    5 ай бұрын

    @@TomTuohythanks for the reply. It wouldn't suprise me given how dysfunctional DePaul has been for decades. If that's the case, I believe Peevy missed his opportunity to resign and salvage his reputation. If he is unable to make the decision, he is going to get blamed for someone else's bad decisions and his career is over permanently.

  • @bobbyyoung4243

    @bobbyyoung4243

    11 күн бұрын

    seriously,huggie bear is a thought. And he's still looking for a job.depaul deserves better.

  • @Zj2030
    @Zj20307 ай бұрын

    Ima have to disagree, DePaul is a wasteland now but I’m confident we can find an even better coach, and be able to recruit better players moving forward. No reason at all to give up on us now the season isn’t even in full swing yet….

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    I think this year is lost. Don't see a turnaround happening. They're a solid coaching hire away. Luckily with the portal it's way easier to rebuild now than it has been in the past.

  • @iamkenkong1
    @iamkenkong16 ай бұрын

    Stubblefield got fired today!!!

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    5 ай бұрын

    Yep! I just hope they don't rush a hire because they were the first to fire.

  • @Maineskiii
    @Maineskiii7 ай бұрын

    i’m going to change depaul.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Please do

  • @3akabrown
    @3akabrown5 ай бұрын

    Come on now, we better than this Blue Demons

  • @donwhite8395
    @donwhite83956 ай бұрын

    No, Chicago State is the worst. I feel bad for them I Don't know if Chicago State has ever had a good recruiting class or anyone go to the pros.

  • @Hockeyspringgolfguy
    @Hockeyspringgolfguy4 ай бұрын

    Rock bottom - 0-20

  • @connecticut511
    @connecticut5117 ай бұрын

    I stand with DePaul.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    7 ай бұрын

    Same! I want nothing more than to see them succeed. Just feels like they never get out of their own way.

  • @connecticut511

    @connecticut511

    7 ай бұрын

    @@BobbyDouglasBasketball So much potential, they could be a sleeping giant.

  • @djyoungk
    @djyoungk4 ай бұрын

    Uic is worse

  • @canadsian2747
    @canadsian27478 ай бұрын

    Bring relegation to College hoops lol. DePaul GOT to go.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    It's a tough scene for the Big East especially since Loyola Chicago is right there and is clearly a better run program.

  • @canadsian2747

    @canadsian2747

    8 ай бұрын

    @@BobbyDouglasBasketball They gotta recruit more aggressively in their own backyard, but it's just like you said. Loyola has them beat on so many fronts that it's hard to compete

  • @OGflig

    @OGflig

    8 ай бұрын

    @@BobbyDouglasBasketball depaul is 31-10 against loyola. yes, we are terrible, no, loyola is NOT better. in fact, loyola is the only team we played more than 40 times and have even close to a winning record against.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    @@OGflig to be fair I don’t think recruits are looking at the series between the two when it comes to deciding what program is better. Loyola is in a much better spot at the current moment with its recent tourney success and overall health of the program.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    @@canadsian2747 Yeah take some shots on some local kids that maybe aren’t getting a lot of looks. I mean ND got Markus Burton who was a 3 star on their backyard and he’s been awesome for them. Lot more kids like him in Chicago.

  • @gopal6985
    @gopal69858 ай бұрын

    This vid aint it

  • @carsonnations1497

    @carsonnations1497

    8 ай бұрын

    ? they’re bad

  • @iamtimanderson
    @iamtimanderson8 ай бұрын

    Thoughts? Thanks for flipping off my school for clicks. 🤦‍♂️

  • @ACL617

    @ACL617

    8 ай бұрын

    Crybaby 😂

  • @Zj2030

    @Zj2030

    7 ай бұрын

    Nah I understand ur pain 😢

  • @hr1meg
    @hr1meg6 ай бұрын

    Maybe DePaul should stop hiring for diversity, and just hire competent, qualified individuals. Just a thought.

  • @TomTuohy

    @TomTuohy

    5 ай бұрын

    You can do both, but you must hire competent and qualified people.

  • @carsonnations1497
    @carsonnations14978 ай бұрын

    good vid bob

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @thomasisinspacethomasisins8471
    @thomasisinspacethomasisins84714 ай бұрын

    I remember as an early ninties ( as gen z says, "1900's" 😭) alumnus, the grey Depaul Basketball shirts that read "Blood, Sweat, & Beers". Whats happening now is Thanos. I hope the politics change this season, because that IS the reason. ~ peace Thomas 🙂🥲❤️🕊️🌏✔️

  • @lalaelectra
    @lalaelectra5 ай бұрын

    Wow that is interesting. I only decided to look up what's going on with DePaul after Rick Pitino was asked a few days ago if his son Richard would take that job. Ah no you can't have him. He is doing just fine in Lobo land ❤️🤍❤️🤍

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah luckily for New Mexico I think DePaul has shorter list that doesn't include him. In terms of DePaul at least I think New Mexico is safe.

  • @lalaelectra

    @lalaelectra

    5 ай бұрын

    I think they are safe for at least one more year. I have a weird feeling something good is going to open up and he'll leave us just like Steve Alford.

  • @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    @BobbyDouglasBasketball

    5 ай бұрын

    @@lalaelectra yeah I agree.

  • @michaelkenny7652

    @michaelkenny7652

    5 ай бұрын

    He has a good job helping revive Lobo basketball it's a basketball rich program and "The Pit" is one of the toughest places in the nation to play at.

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