Just a quick note - as I have the 5400 - if you hit the “clean” button on the front of the Philips, it will rinse out the milk frother so you can put it back in the fridge

The 4300 also has a cleaning function for the milk frothier.

I have the delonghi, and let me tell you in it’s first 3 months, it’s probably done around 720 double espressos! Yes I know I drink way too much coffee but I work from home 😂 it’s only thrown the de-scaler light once, and the filter twice. Obviously continuous tray empty lights with that use. But it’s been genuinely great! For the price point, and a touch of a button I don’t have any complaints. Choose your beans, stick them in. 👌🏻

The Philips absolutely has the clean the latte go feature. I clean every time I use it. Push the clean button and select “Quick Rinse”. It rinses the coffee path when you turn it off.

@cathypeacosh6931

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I use the clean feature every time I have a latte…

@db-cp7xb

11 ай бұрын

If you are doing a review video, you should know these things! He comes across as not knowing much about these units. Thank goodness she was there!

Wendy has an elder sister vibe when she hosts all videos with Neil, so entertaining and funny at the same time informative. Nice job, people)

Thanks guys very helpful :)

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

The Phiilips 4300 has also a cleaning option for the latte go milk system

Many thanks for the comparison. How about the mills? There is quite a difference in between mills too.

I recently got myself a 5400 (imported from UK) also had to get a step-up transformer for it, kind of sucks that you can't find the 5400 in states... but I'm absolutely loving the Philips.

Hi ECS COFFEE, do you sell those coffee machines used or open box by chance? do you ship it the US?

You can adjust the temp of the water on the Phillips 4300 and the clean button is on the button panel for both....

Thank you for the comparison. Would help if you both would have sampled the coffee from both machines and then given us a verdict on the taste. Without that you are only tasting the coffee from one of the machines not knowing what the other just produced !

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

Hi Heeru. Coffee taste is very similar. Sorry we do these so often and should always do this on camera. You are right. Given the taste is subjective to most people I never realized how important that was on KZread. You wont go wrong with either machine.

@DL101ca

Жыл бұрын

Taste is subjective , what works for one is horrible for another.

Can you add basic maintenance reviews to you videos? How easy to access, wash, reinstall the brew unit, for example. How long does decalc take. Hiw difficult to get to typical items that need cleaning periodically?

Delonghi Magnifica Evo is a winner, much easier and beautiful looking and tasting drinks!

If I wanted to make a Latte with Ristretto would that be possible with the Philips?

I'm youtube member since 2010 and this is my first ever comment , YOU BOTH ARE REALLY GREAT ❤❤❤

Great video!!! Was wondering if its possible to activate the steamer independently after pulling an espresso shot? So that the milk can come after the coffee and not before?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

On the Evo model with the panarello yes. With the latte crema you cannot.

@VoodooLBC

Жыл бұрын

@@ecscoffeeinc thank you so much for your reply. Happy holidays l!

@mircea1947

Жыл бұрын

@@ecscoffeeinc what button should I press to pull the milk after the Expresso shot?

@annalewis853

Жыл бұрын

@@mircea1947 fyi your shot would sit and get bitter if you did this. But it’s not a function here. You would want a machine that has the capability to heat milk and pull a shot simultaneously which will not be in this price bracket.

In most of the new automatic machine reviews I've seen the quality of the americano and size of the result output is never described. I've had a Jura E8 for the last 12 years and my normal drink is a 12-16 oz americano in a standard coffee mug (4"-5" height) with nice crema. A desireable additional feature to be able to produce the milk drinks automatically when desired. Are any of the current automatic machines priced $1000 US or less able to do this?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

Look at the new Jura E4 for the Americano but it does not do milk. Tough in that price point to get everything

Could you compare it with the 5400?

how does this match to the De'Longhi Eletta Explore?

So many video's on how to, but no one showsyyou how to use the ground coffee part of machine, how to use. If I have beans in the tray how do I use the ground coffee, do have to push something or simply put ground coffee in and machine uses thise beans rather than grinding beans? Philip's 4300

Thanx. Do you have comparison on Philips 1200 vs Delonghi - Magnifica Evo Bean to Cup Coffee Machine - ECAM290.21.B. ? I had a Delonghi for 7 years and after 25000 (yes!) cups the brewer packed up - very good value. But I am considering the Philips, now. Philips wasn't available back when I bought the Delonghi. I don't need the milksystem - only drink americano.

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

We don't have a comparison between these two machines! However, the specs seem similar to the 4300 in terms of coffee quality! On the 1200 series machines you need to froth your own milk.

A couple years ago I bought the Senseo pod coffee maker and the coffee was beyond weak even after we tried a good number of pods and ended up just donating it. I was all set to buy the Phillips but now knowing the Phillip and Senseo are one of the same, wondering if the 4300 makes a decent cup of coffee.

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

Compeletly different brewing methods. One had pods and this is fresh beans. Much better than the Senseo

@cathypeacosh6931

Жыл бұрын

I have the Phillips 5400. This machine grinds the beans and steams the milk nice and hot. I absolutely love this machine. I believe the other one you were referring to has pods. That is a totally different type of machine.

@derekroberts5931

Ай бұрын

@@cathypeacosh6931 how is your 5400 holding up after a year of making this comment. I am looking between the two machines in the video. I never drank coffee until I started doing clinicals in hospital as a student.

Philips looks more user friendly. Glad i went with it. Thanks for the comparison.

Not sure what she is talking about but the Delonghi is not loud at all. Also the Philips does have a clean function for the Latte go. Great machines bad reviewers who fail to know the product they are revewing.

I would like to have some comments of loudness of both grinding and brewing, that is very important in my household, have Philips 2200 and is extremely loud

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

The noise level is the will be the same on the 4300, and very very close on the Evo... Check out our video on the noise levels of different machines here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ2jpdOFnJyvh7Q.html

Which one do you recommand? I am torn between the 2 machines..

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

Depends on where you are. I like the warranty with Delonghi better in Canada. Other than that pretty comparable. Overall build on Delonghi seems to be a bit better IMO

Nice review, just a question, is it possible to have a cappuccino with ground coffee with both machine? maybe to use decaf coffee? Thanks

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

Yes they both have a bypass for ground coffee

So does the Phillips do a decent cup of coffee as well? Wife is a big coffee drinker, while I’m more about lattes and cappuccino.

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

We think so. But remember it is pressure brewed coffee, not drip

@swisstrader

Жыл бұрын

@@ecscoffeeinc very helpful. Is pressured brewed same as what they use w k-cups?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

@@swisstrader No. Presure brew is espresso brewed. K Cups are low pressure more drip style. You are getting coffee with Crema from an espresso machine.

On these super automatics can you use real cream instead of milk in their automatic frothers? I tend to use heavy whipping cream in my coffee

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

It is not usually recommended to put a heavy cream into these machines as it will be more likely to clog however a half and half cream would work! :)

I have the delonghi and would summareise it as: terrific coffee, terrible milk. As my second foray into superautos after having owned a Lelit Elizabveth V3 during the pandemic, I'm not sure I'd go with the Evo again as the milk system on the Evo is inferior to the Eletta model I used to have before my semi autp. The Eleta produced really creamy, cafe quality milk but the Evo froths the heck out of it and even burns it. Think 80s Italian cap with almost no flavour. This was particularly noticeable after coming from a manual wand on a proper espresso machine where I learned the right temp and texture. I was open to some compropmise but the Evo's milk system is simnply not enjoyable. Fortunately I'm mainly an espresso or long coffee drinker and this machine does a great job at both. The only other advice I would giv buyers of this category is that all superautos are made of plastic and therefore cant get quite as hot as traditional semi automatic machines. If you use any beans roasted medium ligfht or above in terms of roast development you may end up with a sour coffee no matter what. The big, expensive machines made of metal actually get hot to touch and that aids thermal stability and the extraction of flavours. Also, users tend to have very sophisticated grinders that would cost as much if not more than these super autos here. People roasting coffee fall into this catgeory, and so it's important to look beyond the label and ask your roaster upfront what theyd recommend for a home superauto machine. Coffee selection is key - you want something fresh but that the roaster has labelled 'for home use' as that is normally a sign the roast is more developed and therefore more able to be easily extracted/brewed by at-home equipment. If you really want lighter roasts, fret not - just grab an affordable Aeropress and hand grinder combo in addition to your superauto and you won't miss a thing. It's that simple that I am kicking myself for having previously gone down the expensive semi auto 'rabbit hole'. I'd love to try the Phillips for comparison's sake. I'm already wondering which brand I'd buy next - again, nothing bad with the Delonghi's coffee, just not impressed with the newer milk system on this model.

Which is the best? Are you late for delicious coffee? Just because I had a delonghi dedica lever machine, the coffee was macera, I didn't like the coffee, it didn't taste good either, bosch tassimo made too strong coffee, now I have a nespresso too frothy, too strong or too much butter or too fun... I've had a couple of coffee makers. ..I don't want to spend all that money.. Now I have an automatic machine, which delays good coffee..

Her: "Cheers big ears" Him: "I don't have big ears". Her: "It's Australian". LOL, his reaction. She's absolutely correct. It's an Australian saying when you're toasting drinks.

Is there any way to remove the milk section and add a steamer wand? I know you can get a model with the steamer but just curious if you can add one to this?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

No you cannot unfortunately

@cathypeacosh6931

Жыл бұрын

If you had to use the steamer wand, then it would no longer be fully automatic. This machine does everything for you. That’s the beauty of it!

I would have expected a more detailed comparison between the milk foams the produce. Personally I have the philips, but the milk is frothed, not micro-foamed… which is a big difference! I want to know if the delonghi milk frother does micro-foam or it’s the same as philips

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

The Delonghi is definitely closer to a micro foam :)

@AndyFerdean

Жыл бұрын

@siracussa I got the DeLonghi with the manual milk wand just so I can do microfoam and do some latte art which is impossible with the milk jug. It's also much cheaper with the manual wand.

I have one but my coffee machine will not work no coffee comes out it a Phillips I manually pump milk were water is I slid that out open side compartment is seized up

what grind settings were you using for the machines?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

It was out of the box settings. Honestly they may have been adjusted since so I cannot give an accurate answer.

@junkstuff3784

Жыл бұрын

@@ecscoffeeinc No worries, thank you. Still trying to dial mine in.

My 4300 has a quick clean option

The 4300 also doesn't have a double shot function I believe. That last option is for 1X or 2X drinks.

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

It does in Canada but could be different on different models worldwide.

@MrCayenne69

Жыл бұрын

It does have the double shot function as well as it has the quick rinse function that these guys said the 4300 doesn’t have

How does the Philips handle iced coffees' and cold frothed milk?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

The Philips doesn’t have an “iced” setting. But to get and iced americano on this machine pour a shot of espresso over ice and add cold water, to get an iced latte, pour a shot of espresso over ice, and add cold milk 😊 Happy brewing!

What about grinder? If I am right Philips is ceramic and Delonghi is stainles steel?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

That is right! :)

You should have opened up the machines and shown the brew units. The DeLonghi one is much better, same one they use in their top of the line models. Sturdy and simple to clean. Philips brew unit is flimsy plastic.

@bobreviews

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Wendy, please show us the brew groups. It sure looks like a re-skinned Philips with a different set of buttons/menu and different software (simple, simple to do...). Jasper, are you saying the brew group in the Delonghi is made of metal and not plastic?

@Letten71

Жыл бұрын

DeLonghis brew unit is also plastic , but better quality and very simple to clean. I have a Magnifica Evo my self and it’s very good. You have to accept that it doesn’t have fancy digital display, that means you might need to look in the manual when descaling or other things you don’t do that often. It really doesn’t matter that it doesn’t have profiles or many settings - I like that you just push a button and it makes great coffee at the right temperature.

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

We will do so in the future. The EVO brew group is different from the usual ones we find in Delonghi machines. Can't say which is better to be honest.

@cathypeacosh6931

Жыл бұрын

The Phillips one is super easy to clean.

I called Phillips...the 4300 comes with 2 year warranty...and an additional 2 years if you register your product

The difference in te noise is because DeLonghi has a steel grinder and Philips a ceramic one.

@Milehi6h

Жыл бұрын

What's better for build quality?

@J_Brian

Жыл бұрын

What’s better?

@diegobonaventura8501

Жыл бұрын

Steel. As the ceramic starts slowly deteriorating

@Milehi6h

Жыл бұрын

@@diegobonaventura8501 thank you!

@marekkordzik7517

Жыл бұрын

​@@diegobonaventura8501 What are you talking about , ceramic grinders are always better because steel grinders can burn coffee and change it taste ....

I just bought the 5400 a week ago. Not sure if it's just in canada and US but Philip's have me an extra 3 years warranty brining it up to 5. More of a reason to love this machine 😀

Philips EP5144/70 is really sucks. I just bought that machine and have a software problem in Turkey. I cannot install aquaclean filter and philips is not helping and protecting their machine in here. Too bad for them.

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a dud. :( of a machine

@huseyingursoy8488

Жыл бұрын

Aykut makinadan memnun musun,delongni daha mantıklı gibi geliyor bana?

Guys go always for the De Longhi the internal system is SO MUCH better

Do either of them do good regular black coffee?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

If you are looking for drip style coffee neither machine will produce a drip coffee!

@LordSmashington

Жыл бұрын

@@ecscoffeeinc ?? I know the Philips does for sure. The DeLonghi I ended up getting... and returning. It grenaded itself on the 5th espresso cycle.

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

@@LordSmashington The Philips will produce an americano, but not drip coffee. But this machine is a good option if you are an americano lover :)

How about Philips 5400 ?

Bought the Delonghi Magnifica Evo today, really hoping it turns out great. They look similar, but i guess the phillips has a few more options

@dominictomasino5198

Жыл бұрын

Good choice bought the Philips 3200 along with 3 of the most crema making beans and Im very disappointed barely no crema on the Philips, returning it this weekend for the Delonghi EVO

Which one grinds finer?

@tek8812

Ай бұрын

AFAIK Delonghi has stell grinder while lattego has ceramic. So the score goes to Delonghi here. :)

Do you know the maximum amount of grams of coffee per brew? Temperature of coffee?

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

Sorry we do not, The brewer is a bit different than the usual brewer in Delonghi's. Typically you are getting between 10-15 g . I will try find out.

Hi, which machine makes the cappuccino hotter than the other machine

@ecscoffeeinc

Жыл бұрын

We did not do a temp test on these but they are going to be very simiilar.

Which is quieter?

@ecscoffeeinc

9 ай бұрын

The Philips is slightly quieter, but it is barely noticeable!

1200$ ?!? This machine costs here in Belgium 450 euros

@marekkordzik7517

Жыл бұрын

I know , they decided to rip us off here in US . I thought about buying delonghi dinamica in Europe ( I'm European my self ) and either buy step up transformer or replace onboard power module with us version .

That seems like a big hassle

No seal on the bean cover Delonghi? Really?