4 years ago, if you told someone that an Incineroar player would beat MKLeo in 2023, no one would believe you

@fantastic_jarod2391

11 ай бұрын

Im still in shock after watching this

@sergiooliva2517

11 ай бұрын

Joker was nerfed on Nov-Dec 2021, so it makes sense.

@tantanthespaceman1923

11 ай бұрын

I'm kinda new to this and I have a question. Are they uses corded controllers?? Or are those wireless controllers simply being charged while they play. Is there an advantage to what they're doing?

@silvalindu2070

11 ай бұрын

@@tantanthespaceman1923 they are using GameCube controllers

@shmoeg

11 ай бұрын

​@@tantanthespaceman1923yes those are wired Nintendo GameCube controllers. Usually the controllers you see in competition will have modifications like more responsive buttons, and calibrated sticks. The reason they use wired controllers instead of wireless is to minimize input delay. Hope that helped clear things up.

This is absurd. This shouldn't be even possible in theory and yet Skyjay manages to do it. Amazing.

@Cyrx686

11 ай бұрын

because of the matchup on paper? Rock Vs Scissors kind of thing?

@goahdejen6176

11 ай бұрын

@@Cyrx686 yea joker/aegis massacres incin bc of how read-heavy incin is compared to joker/aegis guaranteed combos and bait and punish playstyle on paper but leo never capitalized on his openings and got fucking deleted

@nachot6592

11 ай бұрын

@@Cyrx686 yeah, in particular Joker.

@cooper1431

11 ай бұрын

Bc in competitive mu's are not the most important thing, is consistency. Joker is a very unconsistent character and if Leo is not on point this can happen. Same happens to tweek with Diddy for example

@dnegel9546

11 ай бұрын

@@goahdejen6176leo is a noob

I learned something today. 6:52 when Leo uses Foresight to dodge Skyjay’s dash attack, Mythra takes the increased damage from Revenge’s multiplier, AND Incineroar keeps Revenge online

@TDawg45357

11 ай бұрын

Yoooooo haha good catch‼️

@TDawg45357

11 ай бұрын

This comment made me feel like if Charles commentated this, he may have noticed too haha

Skyjay was motivated to get his first set on leo and you can tell in this set, props to him and leo

Massive respect for both of these guys, I don’t understand how these people can react and adapt so quickly, I can’t even remember what I had for breakfast this morning.

@jordan.newsom

11 ай бұрын

Lol

@tifskrans4464

11 ай бұрын

No literally

@korieklion

5 ай бұрын

Manifest small parts of you to be Alble to understand the parts like adapting . Offense. Bla bla on a basis level. After that improve them by looking at their weaknesses. End lag and stuff. Then we you got the basic down . Practice combination in a simple manner and keep inscreasinf the difficulty. You don’t have to understand it you have to know it and your trained unconsious is the best at doing that.

Haven’t seen Leo get beaten this badly in a while props to sky jay

@johnnyboi77

11 ай бұрын

light jakal and gluto beat him just as badly recently no disrespect to skyjay tho

@danieldancer4065

11 ай бұрын

incineroar can do that to you

@mv2664

11 ай бұрын

​@@johnnyboi77the difference is they all play at least A tier characters, skyjay a mid tier big ass chunky funny cat

@Amaling

11 ай бұрын

​@@mv2664I'm having a hard time seeing that anymore. Incineroar clearly is a much stronger tournament character than average. He's definitely not top tier but is quite strong in a tournament setting

@juliendreemurr654

11 ай бұрын

@@Amaling "Guys this Character got Results, lets put him Top Tier because its clearly not the Player outplaying his Opponent but the Characters Strength and Strength only" - Every Smash Player and Random ever who have Zero clue how Tier Lists are supossed to work

I love how Incineroar just gets free Revenge as soon as Mythra has to do a low up B to ledge. Happened a couple of times here.

@rhysshah3846

11 ай бұрын

It’s a 50/50, if mythra reverse up bs they don’t get revenge, but if incin reads it then can get a down tilt or forward tilt

That last time I saw Skyjay vs Leo (maybe a month ago or so), it was a massacre. Leo read Skyjay like a book throughout the entire set and it was almost hard to watch. The man is simply insane, kudos to him for breaking thru!

Someone please check Leo in to the nearest rehab center. Bro is an Aegis addict.

@vb5281

11 ай бұрын

Leo: Go Aegis, loses with Aegis, people ask for the Joker Also Leo: Go Joker, loses with Joker, people complain that he switches to Aegis Bro stop your whinings he came back to Joker a while ago already and it clearly doesn't do better than the Aegis. At the end of the day if the Joker is not relevant anymore in the current meta, Leo will always favor Aegis as it's the character he likes to play. He's not gonna play Joker if Joker doesn't do better and it just makes sense, you guys have to chill out and just understand that x)

@thekingbradable

11 ай бұрын

@@vb5281 Brother, he played one game with Joker and gave up 💀 him going Joker doesn’t mean he’ll never lose. But there’s a big difference between his Aegis and his other characters. It’s pretty glaring. Not only that, he keeps saying that he will drop Aegis and keeps going back. Which means he notices the issues, yet keeps going back anyway.

@gerardoortega323

11 ай бұрын

@@vb5281 bro are you serious? The joker was doing fine game 1 it's just that MkLeo makes frustrating decisions sometimes and switches to aegis for the next 2 games. The joker did a lot better than the aegis in this set, game 2 was only last stock situation cuz skyjay SD'ed

@wailmoregd140

11 ай бұрын

We gotta get this man high on Byleth again

@sentoworf

11 ай бұрын

​@@vb5281 He's always lost games with Joker though and he'd still manage to win. A lot of the "Game 4 Leo" moments only happened cause he lost at least one game with Joker.

Leo not going Byleth here was a massive throw, given how well it went at BoBC 5

@magicsnqil

11 ай бұрын

Leo won with Joker at the last smash factor

@soundwave7855

11 ай бұрын

He's gotta use Corrin too

@mv2664

11 ай бұрын

Leo 3-0d skyjay with joker literally the last week

@rjwolf8873

11 ай бұрын

I think he knows he could win with Byleth. He has won with Byleth. Maybe he doesn't want to win alone, but prove something along the way

@bigshu14

11 ай бұрын

All his characters beat incineroar so it ain’t a throw it was just a skill issue

Loses with Joker last hit: switches to Pythra Also loses with Pythra last hit: doesn't switch at all Why does Pythra get treated so much better than any of Leo's other characters?:(

@LevelsOTT

11 ай бұрын

They aren't that hard to play so Leo probably feels more comfortable with them when he's not 100% in the game

@mojacucos

11 ай бұрын

B00Bs

@danielayala9087

11 ай бұрын

No game was last hit.

@Matthew.Morcos

11 ай бұрын

He just made some weird decisions, like why would he not go for the grab at the end of game two when skyjay had revenge active. He took a 45% backthrow and was in a terrible position

@joshjudy9032

11 ай бұрын

@@danielayala9087the first two games definitely count, arsene joker and aegis both have good kill set ups at 60%+

Skyjay's Incineroar will always be a treat to watch. Even better vs Leo. Gg's!

@evinblacksmith1294

11 ай бұрын

Who's the artist who drew the Link in your profile pic??

@343Films

11 ай бұрын

​@@evinblacksmith1294bo-pha

I love all the recognition this man is bringing to incinerator ❤ props to him for beating Leo noone would've never thought of beating Leo with the slowest character of the game 😂

Mk Leo is still at it? I just got back into the community after many years and it’s nice to see he’s still playing

@fritosmobile4837

11 ай бұрын

He's been 1st place since I think 2017 but this year he got ranked 7th🥲

@jackattackhissnack

11 ай бұрын

He's semi retired. Doesn't go to nearly as many events, but still really good.

@andrewfeng7411

11 ай бұрын

@@jackattackhissnack hes not even close to semi retired, this is just misleading

@geordiehalma7323

11 ай бұрын

@@jackattackhissnack he's not semi-retired, he's just not dominating as far as his results anymore.

@eatingyoshi4403

11 ай бұрын

@@fritosmobile4837 Well it hasn't been a full year yet so its just the summer ranking.

I wonder if this “MKLeo” guy will be a future PGR player. He did pretty well, given he was fighting against Skyjay!

I can't believe Leo got out of his seat midgame on the third set to yell "You are carried by your character! Time to pull out my Isabelle." And then proceeded to three stock Skyjay. That was a wild finish.

@Caronage_

5 ай бұрын

completely unexpected, but Leo’s Isabelle has always been the legendary pocket

Skyjay you are so damn good, I really enjoy watching your fights.

it's actually so weird to see Leo not have a single answer. Like he started playing like he'd already given up on that last stock, throwing out whatever he can cause maybe it'll work. I don't think I've really seen Leo so antsy like that before Especially against Incineroar of all characters

I haven’t seen any other match this tournament, but when I saw which two were playing I thought this is gonna be set of the tourney. I had no idea what it would turn out to be. Calling it now, this is my set of 2023.

I love watching Skyjay play. So much freakin fun to watch. Dude seems cool as hell too. Great vid!

レオ一強の時代まじで終わってみんな強くなったんだなぁって感動した

It’s always a treat to see both Joker and PyMy! There both really fun to watch! Congratulations to SkyJay for the win!

@WesleyFiles

11 ай бұрын

How are you pronouncing that? 'Pie Mie' or 'Pee Mee'?

@animikelove4040

11 ай бұрын

@@WesleyFileseither PieMie or PieMe i think

@thesuperjag

11 ай бұрын

@@WesleyFiles For me… it’s basically Pie and My.

@juliendreemurr654

11 ай бұрын

Why PyMy and not Pythra/Myra or Aegis

@thesuperjag

11 ай бұрын

@@juliendreemurr654 Because it’s a nickname I gave them due to playing Xenoblade Chronicles 2 multiple times. Actually the entire Xenoblade franchise multiple times. It just sounds better to me as I endear those 2 personalities. Funny thing was Rex actually said Pythra and Myra once late into the game.

MkDeidad esta de Chill ahora. Su mejor época ya paso Pero sigue siendo el mejor jugador de Ultimate de su Historia.

@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome

11 ай бұрын

Facts.

@acronix-053

11 ай бұрын

Na como dijo un tipo en otro video simplemente aprovecho que no tenía competencia y ya y es cierto skyjay,Tea,acola, miya,onin , zomba,apolokage y muteace ni estaban Spargo ni se dedicaba al 100 a esto riddles y kameme ni salian de su pais mas que unas cuantas veces kurama apenas y empezaba y todavía se desapareció un tiempo jakal lo mismo literalmente las unicas amenazas eran tweek, light ,zackray y Mars no la tenia muy complicada que digamos y todavía se puso mas facil ya que zackray se sentro en otras cosas y a mars le nerfearon horrible a su personaje y se fijan hay patron en eso ya que la mayoría que mencione han destruido a leo en lo que va del año solo muteace y tea no le han ganado y miya no se a topado con el los demás le han metido un 3-0 limpio

@XCharizard100

11 ай бұрын

​@@acronix-053mencionas a Jakal y me acordé que quedó 97th en el Smash con la semana pasada xd

@acronix-053

11 ай бұрын

@@XCharizard100pues es muy XD tu comentario por que a spargo, tweek,riddles etc etc no les fue nada bien tampoco y Jakal le a metido un 3-0 a spargo la última vez que se enfrentaron

@mv2664

11 ай бұрын

@@XCharizard100 pues andres fornite llegó al top 16 (o 32), mientras sisqui perdió en pools, smash con tuvo muchísimos upsets y por eso el top 8 tuvo a DDee que por alguna razón le pudo ganar a sonix lol

You could see Skyjay at one point praying, “please, don’t let him do another reverse 3-0.” Awesome playing!

Even though im a huge skyjay fan cant help but feel like mkleo isnt playing at 100% this time around. Is that just me?

@alightened

11 ай бұрын

He looks bored. I think he’s over this game

@RobbertRobbert12345

9 ай бұрын

People are just catching up, man. Same thing happened with ZeRo in Smash 4. Nobody stays the best forever. In the end all of these guys are just regular people. They're not infallible or incapable of being surpassed.

Glad that Fro was the one that was able to cast this!

What is going on with Leo man this is killing me. He'll always be the #1 ultimate player for me for what he's already achieved and how long he dominated. But this is still so hard to watch

@MakeAmericaLiftAgain

11 ай бұрын

All great players have a fall from grace. Look at Mango.

That cat destroyed Leo’s $11.98, congrats to skyjay, great match 🎉

I think players just figured out Mkleo's characters. When joker came out peo0le didnt know how to fight againgst him then they learned same thing goes for Byleth people learned the MU. Mkleo just needs to stick to 1 character and grind with that 1 character Joker is solo viable Leo just needs to grind with him and not give up

@MargarineMan44

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I was going to say he kind of has a character crisis rn and the pool of players around him have closed the skill gap. His winning records are insane but I think Joker/Byleth is not bad for him to really grind again. Pyra Mythra's recovery to me is just too mid and exploitable as well as no added movement capabilities like gun dashes or b reverse cancels with Byleth.

@melomitchell8714

10 ай бұрын

@@MargarineMan44 yea Joke/Byleth is a solid combination and he can throw in the Marth here and there for the fans

@MargarineMan44

10 ай бұрын

@@melomitchell8714 I will also say Mkleo has like some of the most vods to watch and study so makes sense eventually people get it. Like we said tho, couple of quick reads and he obliterates stocks with arsen or byleth shield breaks. Pyra Mythra just based on consistency imo not too much clutch factor.

Recently picked up incineroar because of skyjay and man its so fun

@hzrnvm

10 ай бұрын

same here lol it's awesome

6:52 you know Leo's not playing well when you see him going for the dash attack there when he clearly should've gone for the grab to get rid of the revenge. Or, we could've just gone Byleth.

I keep saying over and over, Byleth is his character. His Joker is still good, but I think if he should be switching to any Character, it should be Byleth.

@maxspecs

11 ай бұрын

Byleth has a great matchup vs Incin, too, can easily keep him out with those big hitboxes.

@MyHatDefinesMe

11 ай бұрын

Someone should remind Leo of his performance at the Ludwig Invitational

@RobbertRobbert12345

9 ай бұрын

@@maxspecs Literally all of these characters have a great matchup vs Incineroar. Leo just got outplayed here.

Well dayum! That was a thing that happened.

Sky jay es increíble la verdad cómo es posible que un low tier le gane un dlc tier 0 Ejemplo sky jay con un vw escarabajo vs leo Ferrari enzo

Are guns for edge guarding not a thing anymore? like shoot them downwards to prevent recovery?

@Eggss_B

11 ай бұрын

It's still a thing.

Skyjay did say he wanted to beat him. Man got his wish.

Never thought i'd see the day. Congrats SkyJay!

11:05 WAS CRAZY!

It is truly refreshing to see a hype character like Incineror absolutely body meta characters.

Looks like players finally have caught on to Leo just jumping and doing an aerial, not focusing on a grounded game, and giving up on characters when it’s just him not playing it smarter.

2:14 下投げ横スマ好き

俺たちの憧れたLeoの一強時代が…😢

puede alguien decirme porqué mkleo se puso "katarina" esta vez? XD

HUGE W

It must suck to be "the best" because everytime you lose every sweaty kid will say you're washed. Props to SkyJay though.

SkyGOAT back at it again

Incineroar is very fun to watch. This was amazing!

i memed about mkleo losing to skyjay in chat in previous events. didnt think it would actually happen.

mk leo is looking great!! has he been working out?

@343Films

11 ай бұрын

He does look like he's in much better shape! Good for him 💪

Skyjay so fun to watch. 👍🏼

YEAHH!!!! Go Skyjay!!! Makes me wonder why mkleo didn't pick byleth though.

Good job SkyJay 👏

That's my boy! Skyjay making the best spicy cat look good out here❤️

This is so sad. Leo is just mashing with Mythra. There was a moment in gm 2 Skyjay had revenge for like 10 secs and in that span Leo just threw out attacks 3 times instead of grabbing. Going Kalos that last game was literally an indication he didnt care. Sigh.

@toffee781

11 ай бұрын

Gf debuff 😂

@JayderND

11 ай бұрын

Thx so much for not spoiling it

@fupalover

11 ай бұрын

@@JayderND Quiet. Let me cope in peace.

@epyons8411

11 ай бұрын

@@toffee781gf debuff hasn’t affected sparg0 because he is young. The youth provides a shield for him.

@chuxnorris919

11 ай бұрын

Kalos is really bad for Incin idk what you’re talking about. Mythra has one of the best speeds in the game and that stage is huge.

Cannot believe Incineroar 3-0ed Leo o:

Skyjay es increíble!

So satisfying to see Leo get 3-0 😂 Well played sir

SKYJAY WITH THE BIG SLAMMER AT THE END! 🔥 💯 💯 THAT MAN LEO GOT SHLOBERED ON LIKE A PUPPY!!! 🥵 🤑 🤑 HASHTAG SKYJAY ON TOP!! 😎 😎 HASHTAG ROAD TO NUMBER 1!?!?! 🏆 🏆 💯 HASHTAG SWAGGER YO!!!!

@user-eu6fx3uy3l

11 ай бұрын

Are u like a 8 year old fangirl

@grimxdisstracks3178

11 ай бұрын

@@user-eu6fx3uy3l no

@frieddoorhandles

11 ай бұрын

​@@user-eu6fx3uy3l😂

Is anyone else only able to see this in 360 p??

Perfect! Incineroar is better than Aegis in every aspect: Design, looks, power, voice, moveset, strategy, combos, personality, excitement, entertainment, comeback, franchise and, most importantly, a very respectable character in Ultimate !

@MartinAyala8

11 ай бұрын

Yep

@themememaster423

11 ай бұрын

Incineroar has more personality than most of the cast.

@TreyMM-qz4wg

11 ай бұрын

Wanna fuck him or something?

@qqNai

11 ай бұрын

You forgot sex appeal

@julian_4838

11 ай бұрын

Aegis has bigger boobs

たとえ負けてもレオ様のジョーカー見れるだけで幸せです。感謝

Glad to see the Leo is still human and can still lose, congrats skyjay

I feel like smash ultimate is in a pretty healthy state of balance due to the character variety I'm seeing in tournaments. Watching Evo 2023, grand finals in 6 of the 8 games that were part of the event were mirror matches of the same character or team. Insanely stale compared to the crazy variety I'm seeing from smash lately.

3:24 Wow, nice bait. That up air of Incineroar has barely any frames, so Instantly went for the neutral air xD

LETS GO SKYJAY

"Oh a 13 minute match? Well, he is Leo so I shouldn't be surprised that he 3-0d even someone lik-... WTF"

Ooh boy leo the download is complete.

TE QUIERO MUCHO SKYJAY 🦁🔥

once your in a relationship your skills just drops.

案の定裏gluttonyで逝ってて草

At this point every player is gonna take a set from leo.

Leo doesn't seem motivated anymore.

Skyjay is such an inspiration

Leo... my man. We all love you. But we have to talk about this Pyra/Mythra thing. That ain't it, chief. That said, I have to agree with Larry Lurr. Everyone knows Leo's absolute dominance with Joker a few years ago, but Byleth is hands down Leo's best character. Byleth plays to Leo's best qualities which are spacing and zoning. Safe bread and butter combos (i.e. nair to dash attack), incredible zoning tools (bair/fair), easy kill confirms (d-tilt to up air), and really good ledgetrapping and offstage options (f-smash, d-tilt, up-b). The up-b in particular is devastating.

Mkleoついに弱体化に?! 😮 信じらんないけど時代は変わってく...

Holy shit, Skyjay finally beat his demon

Why didn't Leo just go Byleth? That character excels at keeping distance.

MASSIVE INCIN W

I swear Leo's Corrin is better than his Aegis.

Yall gotta remember that Leo doesn’t care about the game that much anymore. Props to skyjay tho cause Leo is still a top 10-15 player regardless

Wait wat?! Bravo Skyjay!

9:10 had me like 🤯

what's happening to leo ;0

Mkleo needs to drop aegis seriously this is another inkling moment

well i watched it and i know how but... how?

もうバケモンだよね

Now skyway will never be allowed on goat talks with Leo again 😂

Leo doesn't seem in it. I don't blame him he already left his mark

Leo looks like he couldn’t care less about smash. I think he’s going to just be a youtuber instead of competitive. Way more money in that

I cannot put into words how incredible this makes me feel.

Good match. Its clear Leo lost his focus in last stoks

3:29 splash? Body slam I believe

@destroyahdestroyah9584

11 ай бұрын

Body slam is when you pick someone up and throw them. It's a body splash when you pick yourself up and throw yourself

Im proud of skyjay but i am worried about leo man this is so confusing.

I thoroughly believe that SkyJay given enough time will become the player to beat in Ultimate.

Skyjay very handsome!!!! Que guapo esta y es super pro!!! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

Downfall of MK Leo was once he stated to say he was the best” what you expect, I’m the best” usually a warriors last words

Hoooooly poo. This is low-key a historic set.

dang hopefully Leo finds a way out of his character crisis. feelsbad seeing him get cooked like this

lmao i read the first comments being like wow incineroar beats mkleo 3-0 and thought they were pulling something nah he actually did it

andresfn de fondo jugando contra kurama jajaja