They should have kept this in. This is such an important moment, and in the book it makes such a big difference to the story and the character. I think this movie is really good, but it lacks many things from the books that would have made it more like the original story and this scene would have helped a great deal

@Margishydoodles

Жыл бұрын

@StrangeGayBeing i totally agree!!!!!

@netwolfe

Жыл бұрын

As someone who has not read the book, I would like offer my thoughts. I acknowledge the scene is nice, has a great message, but I also feel I can understand why the scene was cut. Personally I think possibly might have disputed the flow and pacing of the movie a little. I am sure in the book that would not be in the case, this scene probably dose work better in pacing of the book. I could totally buy that possibility. Also as far as this movie would go, I do not think we get any good build up to this scene. By that I mean in the rest of the movie I do not think we see anything that hints Agatha cares about stuff. Again, I assume in the bool probably dose a better job at hinting those things. I imagine the book probably hints at those things, but I do not see any hint movie. Possibly cut out for movie length. If the movie dose actually hint that Agatha feels that way, then those hints went over my head. Which I will admit knowing me, that could actually be a possibility. For those are my thoughts as someone who had not read the book. Again, nice scene, with a nice a message, happy the book includes such a message. I think it is great they posted this deleted scene online for people to see, but at the same time I see why it might have been cut from the movie.

@strangegaybeing

Жыл бұрын

@@netwolfe I agree, I think if they had kept this in they also would have had to put in a lot more things from the book and that would have simply been too much. Also the book is rather long and so it's understandable that they couldn't include everything. A possible solution could have been to split it up into two movies, but again, I think that would have been too much for the story and there isn't a good point to split it. I just recommend to everyone who watched this movie and liked it to read the book(s), because there is so much more to the story and also the following books that hasn't even been hinted at in the movie.

@noahorakwue2653

Жыл бұрын

this is why netflix should have made this a series not a movie there were too many important scenes to fit into 2 and 1/2 hours.

@mercy6549

Жыл бұрын

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“I don’t believe anyone is truly good or truly evil. But I know Sophie wants to be good…and that should be good enough” That is so true

@0oclock45

Жыл бұрын

I was on that exact part when reading this😂😂

@NatureForce37

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but RAFAL definitely was, I believe. What did they say again? That he was pure evil, or evil incarnate?

@marialuisapolicarpoalves8980

Жыл бұрын

@@NatureForce37 That he was pure evil

@NatureForce37

Жыл бұрын

@@marialuisapolicarpoalves8980 yes yes, that's it. Ty ty

@emma_luce_0623

Жыл бұрын

That's part of the problem with this movie. Agatha learns that some people simply are evil and some people are innately good. Sophie is one of those people

They shouldn’t have deleted this scene it would have been very inspiring and motivational for people who have insecurities😭

@skylex02

Жыл бұрын

I know right

@linnetgee8857

Жыл бұрын

That was one of my favorite scene in the book because Dovey has shown Agatha that she is already beautiful.

@I_Set_Fire_In_My_Every_Foods

Жыл бұрын

i won't ruin the 666 likes but if someone do i'm gonna steal there House away

@mohamedhussein2780

Жыл бұрын

Insecurities are good and gives you the will to improve. Strong people who have Insecurities change that through will, weak people complain, say they are depressed, or take their life.

@raqueljamieson8034

Жыл бұрын

@@mohamedhussein2780 wow 😢

THIS! THIS is the Dovey I love. She isn't buying into the "Beauty is what makes Good Good." She is the mother figure Agatha needed when she was taken away from her mom. She is the graceful, calm, and wise Dean who sees a truly Pure Good soul that doesn't believe she deserves love. I thought that they didn't cast her well enough but this scene alone tells me they UNDERSTOOD Dovey.

@shootingstarx.

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY When I saw the movie, I was like "This is NOT the Dovey I know" "What did they do with her?" "I don´t like her". But that scene, shows her real personality, the paceful proffesor who really wants to help Agatha

@williamcameron8325

Жыл бұрын

@@shootingstarx. and they removed dang Sader one of the most important characters in the dang series.

@shootingstarx.

Жыл бұрын

@@williamcameron8325 YESSS and I'm really mad of that. He was one of my favourites characters from the book, I really wanted to see him. Besides, Rafal / Schoolmaster' s death is tottaly different here from the book. Why? Because HE WAS NOT THERE!! I don't wanna compare movie and book. The movie is inspired in the this, doesn't have to be a 100% copy. But, there's little mistakes very importants for the plot that I don't like... (I have only read the first; now I'm with the second. Is he very important? Another reason for loving him)

@williamcameron8325

Жыл бұрын

@[ This Is Me ] in the third book it turns out that he had something that changes everything about the Main characters dynamic.

@shootingstarx.

Жыл бұрын

@@williamcameron8325 ooohhh, thank you

If they kept this scene in, it would’ve made Sophie’s transformation after the blood magic & evil spells all the more poignant. Really drive home the point of “ugly actions & words make YOU ugly.”

@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752

Жыл бұрын

Yes and the Nemesis dreams would make sense...

@PavitrStan4Life

Жыл бұрын

yea but Agatha in the movie didn't care about looks so this was "out of charcater" for MOVIE Agatha, who cared more about being a good person than being accepted and pretty. Book agatha was insecure so it made more sense there. That's why it was deleted.

@SunflowerLicie_Strong

Жыл бұрын

It still made sense to me and probably other people who are deep thinkers , but I agree if they left this scene in it would have made it a lot easier to understand.

@PavitrStan4Life

Жыл бұрын

@@SunflowerLicie_Strong if you read the books you can see why they deleted it. Book agatha was super insecure and being ugly was a mental block for her. The book transofrmation was super huge deal for her and helped her move forward. But movie agatha wasn't insecure and never brought up feeling ugly before so it seemed out of charcater like a forced message

@MADEbySOUL

Жыл бұрын

@@PavitrStan4Life Personally, I felt they still gave Agatha that insecurity. Especially the insecurity of being not enough to love. All the times the human kids bullied her for being a witch, making her feel unwanted. A witch in this universe meant ugly, Sophie herself said she wasn't a witch because she was pretty. The whole story compared the two. Sophie had this golden hair with "ideal" features that Agatha differed from. Add in how many times Agatha said she didn't belong and Sophie did, why because she didn't look the part? Didn't like the same things?

They should have kept this scene. It sends out a beautiful message. You don't need anything to make yourself beautiful. You do that yourself by being you and being confident in yourself.

@chloeknight3558

Жыл бұрын

Well said. ☺😊

@defblue1994

Жыл бұрын

I agree! This would've given us more depth to Agatha.

@jasperremains8984

Жыл бұрын

which is why i kinda like sofia as agthga or however its spelt. even the most prettyiest ppl can be insercure

@PavitrStan4Life

Жыл бұрын

idk if you read the books but they changed Book Agatha's morals a bit. Book agath (BA) was insecure and constantly compared herself for sophie, were Movie Agatha (MA) was more concerned about being a good, strong, true person. While BA and MA both showed loyalty towards sophie, MA wanting to be pretty was "out of charcater" because MA literally did NOT care about beauty. It made more sense for BA to have a transformation bc looks were a huge mental block for her.

@hannahmontana9307

Жыл бұрын

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In the book, this was my favorite scene. Before this, Agatha was lonely in the Good side. Everyone thought that she had been a mistake, and she thought so too. She dressed however she wanted to, and she didn't care for manners, because she already thought no one would care about her anyway. Even though she was good and kind. So, in this scene, Dovey gives her makeover. She gets a dress, and thinks that maybe people will like her. She goes about the castle and everyone likes her. She's beautiful. And then, she looks in the mirror... and it's just her. And she thinks it's a trick, because no one would ever believe that she's beautiful. But Dovey says that it's true. When she went out, she was still the same person and she was smiling. She was beautiful because she believed she was beautiful. And this hit me like a truck, because tomboyish, bookish little girls aren't supposed to want to be pretty. They don't care about being beautiful, until they think we can't be be beautiful. Until we think we can't be loved. But Agatha was bookish and boyish. Agatha believed she couldn't be loved. And Agatha was beautiful. And that helped me learn that I could be beautiful. That helped me learn I could be loved.

@abigailstaples3686

6 ай бұрын

late reply, but; in the book, it isn't dovey who tells agatha that she was beautiful all along. instead, she wakes up after the transformation in a mirrorless groom room, forced to run across the castle to see what changes were made. along the way, she receives the compliments of various students and teachers (beatrix also doesn't tell off kiko for complimenting agatha, btw), before finding a mirror and noticing she looked the exact same. she then noticed that everyone she passed also (metaphorically) were mirrors, as they told her how she looked. and they told her she looked beautiful, even though she hadn't physically changed; all that changed is that she *thought* she's beautiful, and that was enough to make her so. professor dovey doesn't tell her that she was beautiful all along, agatha realises it herself.

@hideame

3 ай бұрын

That was my favorite scene in the book as well and I was so disappointed when they did not add it to the movie. And now I found this! Why would they delete it, really?

WHY WOULD THEY DELETE THIS?!??!!? Ugh it's such an incredible scene!

i love this scene i hate how they edited out all of Agatha's struggles and made her only focused on Sophie. This is a beautiful message that would mean a lot to young girls and boy who watched the movie!

@harmoniquet1379

Жыл бұрын

Soooo true

@Mikirono23

Жыл бұрын

I found that so annoying

@tasialynngood8540

Жыл бұрын

100

@axieuniquegameplays2310

Жыл бұрын

because sophie is white

@khafimoore3315

Жыл бұрын

No cap

WHY DID THEY DELETE THIS FOR FILLERS??? If anything THIS should’ve been kept in with how major character development Agatha had in the book and her having self-confidence of her looks. This was such a pivotal moment in the book where she realized she was beautiful all along and not ugly like people said-she only needed confidence and loving herself. The way this scene was shot is so beautiful and the fact they took this important scene out is sad 😭

@PavitrStan4Life

Жыл бұрын

They deleted it bc Movie Agatha didn't have trouble with insecurities, comparision, and looks like book Agatha did.

@hannahmontana9307

Жыл бұрын

Susbsb

@annabelconstantine1241

Жыл бұрын

It can still be canon

@PavitrStan4Life

Жыл бұрын

@@annabelconstantine1241 its cannon in the books, have you read them?

@annabelconstantine1241

Жыл бұрын

@@PavitrStan4Life no I haven't. But then that just legitimizes it more

Never read the book but I’m so upset this was deleted. Watching it I felt that Agatha’s storyline was cool but it was weighed down by how much of it revolves exclusively around Sophie. All of Aggie’s motivations are Sophie. She mentions leaving her mom (who she seems quite close to and swears can’t be alone) behind for like a second before immediately turning her worries back to Sophie who WANTED to leave. All of her actions lead back to wanting to be with this one girl. So much so that I was half expecting her to drop Teddy like a hot potato and confess to Sophie or something. I feel like her narrative as an independent character would’ve benefited from a scene that shows that her life before this didn’t just make her humble, strong and understanding. It also made her insecure, self-sacrificing and desperate to hold on to one of the only people that ever loved her as she was because she didn’t expect to get it anywhere else because she wasn’t ‘beautiful’. The movie basically uses her to fix everyone else and leaves this girl to battle all of that trauma (and forces her to combat Sophie’s) alone. The story we got feels like Aggie was just over-protective of her friend. When in reality it seems like Sophie had kind of become her whole identity and she never really developed a healthier one by the end of everything. She just gets Sophie back. I hope there’s a second movie because I really liked Aggie’s character but it didn’t feel like they did enough for her. Also fairy godmother put me in my feelings here this is so sweet!

@weneedmoreconsideratepeopl4006

Жыл бұрын

you nailed it. You said everything that felt off from her characterization... For a supposed protagonist in a fairytale world, Agatha feels like a sidekick even in her own story. Her own events and progression aren't even fleshed out or focused on like her friend's arc and motivations were (this removed scene is an example, and I sure as heck don't remember this in the book too!). Without Sophie, Agatha probably wouldn't even have a story of her own because that's just how much Aggie revolves around her(S). Agatha doesn't even have a moment dedicated to her dear mom and her cat (like how could she not miss them or think about them when she feels trapped and outcasted??) despite them having a deeper relationship unlike the one Sophie's had with her step/parent which was riddled with anger due to her father remarrying. It's like, at some points, she's just there to be a plot device to the actual main characters. It's reallyyyy discomforting how off-balance.. even unfair (

@user-gi74

Жыл бұрын

omg so correct and well said! tbh, with this scene agatha's character completes.

@PrincessLunaSama

Жыл бұрын

@@weneedmoreconsideratepeopl4006 this scene was in the books though it happened a bit differently. It was when Agatha acted her ball exam and Dovey couldn't understand why Agatha refused to accept her goodness and kept trying to get her to look into a mirror but she refused and then Dovey agreed to help her. The wand didn't work so she had the nymphs take her to the groom room after knocking her out. Same stuff happened with her walking around with a smile and even meeting Tedros but she realizes what Dovey really did on her own. This scene would have been incredible to keep and I hate that they cut it... Especially since they also cut out Agatha's encounters with her reflection on the bridge. They didn't keep much of any of Agatha's character development or even her development with teddy :c which saddens me

@Sophie-jk2ss

Жыл бұрын

No but you can’t fully blame Sophie for her insecurities. In the books they really how much BOTH of them rely on each other and actually Agatha becomes a selfish in the second book idk if it was just me but I feel like she did. Sophie is the reason Agatha opened her heart enough to love herself and Tedros, Sophie made Agatha better and Agatha made Sophie better that’s what’s so great about their friendship. Also this was beautiful they should’ve kept it because it shows everyone that you are beautiful no matter what

@AshleyLaurenmusic

Жыл бұрын

The movie was so freaking annoying with her crying after Sophie the whole damn time! I hope the next film revolves more around her finding herself, and like you said this scene would have helped that A LOT in this film. Honestly, I think this fixation is not even realistic as no true best friends act like that! Like, yeah, I love my best friends, but damn! They made her identity revolve around Sophie for sure which is just weird. Hoping the second one will be different.

I'm ASTOUNDED that they left this scene out. As someone who's never read the books I did think the one major thing this movie was missing was some kind of closure for Aggie's arc, or rather for her to have an arc at all, and I can't believe they had it right here and just didn't include it. Plus it's such a nice genuine moment between her and Dovey, where most of their interactions had been Dovey being really pushy, and this was Dovey actually opening up to her for once.

@aureliaavalon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. And book Dovey felt like a stern, sensible Grandma, exactly like a Fairy Godmother! The movie Dovie is a bit too airheaded and pushy in her dialogues with Agatha when compared.

@88eggs

Жыл бұрын

@Aurelia Avalon oh interesting, I wonder if that was intentionally changed due to the choice in actress? As in maybe that was the direction she took the role in so that there would be this contrast to scenes like this. But that idea falls flat if they simply...don't include this scene lol

They should've kept this to balance both of the characters since Sophie got her extremely evil transformation, Agatha should've also had her spotlight with this totally good transformation with the fairygod mother. A friend lit asked me if Sophie is the only protagonist when Aggie is also one.

@kholsk8857

Жыл бұрын

Took the words right out my mouth! Yessss

@roonee7909

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@theelitebrawlersbakuganleg4224

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Haru-uj7hk

Жыл бұрын

Unfair, right.

@Fervent._

Жыл бұрын

Agree .

Okay but Agatha saying "You can make me beautiful? Beautiful enough to be loved" in that breathless hopeful manner, is giving me 😭

@andreagrussu6778

Жыл бұрын

If I was treated like she was, and I thought that someone could wave a wand and simply change that, i would ask the same way

Man, I wish they kept this in - I would’ve loved for my daughter to see this in the film. Yes I can show her the deleted scene now but it would’ve been more impactful within the flow and emotions of the movie. Man! Netflix… bad move EDIT: I see there’s a lot of ppl with the same sentiment… @Netflix is it too late to add it back in? We watch this movie over and over again waiting for the sequel… hopefully you can just squeeze it back in?!? 🥺🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

@weneedmoreconsideratepeopl4006

Жыл бұрын

there needs to be an edited movie with this instead...

@SMTlaco

Жыл бұрын

Just tell her that you guys missed that scene

@Cantetinza17

3 ай бұрын

Hey girl! I don't have children, but I love this cause we all need that reminder.

“My dear, there's no spell. True beauty is about being happy for being who you truly are." - Professor Dovey! 😭❤️

They shouldn't delete this scene cause it will brought a great character development and personality for Agatha.

@Teddybearbabe314

Жыл бұрын

I agree that was one of my main issues with the movie that Agatha really had no character growth whatsoever and this would have changed that entirely.

@zamanthanichole

Жыл бұрын

@@Teddybearbabe314 but the movie is still wonderful

@Teddybearbabe314

Жыл бұрын

@@zamanthanichole I don’t disagree the aesthetics alone were amazing

@zamanthanichole

Жыл бұрын

@@Teddybearbabe314 yes. I agree. The cast, the visual effects the soundtrack we're extraordinary

@fischlpfpcausewhynot6107

Жыл бұрын

@@Teddybearbabe314 I agree with you

People saying that she’s “not ugly so this scene wouldn’t make sense” that’s literally not the point, Agatha had been called a witch her whole life in Gavaldon she was degraded daily, convinced she was something horrible so she believed she was which is why she carried herself the way she did. It’s called insecurity which is something people struggle with daily especially in your teen years so that’s why a lot of people liked this scene because it was relatable. It doesn’t matter if you’re the most gorgeous person in the world you’re always gonna have a voice in your head telling you you’re something you aren’t it’s just whether you decide to listen to it or not.

@bratzxrose

Жыл бұрын

Beautifully said❤

@mdy7953

Жыл бұрын

No, her ugliness was important. The entire thing of the book is to question the fact that we have come to associate beauty with good and ugliness with evil and this story about a good girl who thinks she's evil cos she's been bullied for being ugly vs a beautiful villain who thinks she's good just cos she's pretty on the surface was a major plot point. Each book in the series questions our morals throughout the story whether it's good vs evil, boys vs girls, age vs youth, this film lost all the good messages.

@oekmama

Жыл бұрын

This scene makes sense. But at no point is Agatha treated by her mother or fellow villagers as if her looks are the reason for her poor treatment. She dresses differently. But that’s it. I thought it was because her mom was a poor single mother. There’s no setup for this scene at all, although it further provides setup for scenes later on.

@caitlinmahsoeung

Жыл бұрын

even after she gets the makeover by dovey, she is still described as being ugly by some people (Pretty sure someone said they had seen mole rats prettier than her) Agatha isn't conventionally pretty, the point is that once you look deeper her inner beauty is supposed to shine through. Just casting ise, they got rid of alot of agatha's struggle by casting Sofia Whylee, cause shes gorgeous and it makes alot of Agatha's character and insecurities pointless as the reason she want's sophie to go back to Gavldon is because she cant make anymore friends, shes too afraid to becuase everyone is judging her on her looks so she thinks she can't make any. In Gavldon, they discriminated her because of her looks, so then she started dressing in black and acting scary to feed into their rumours.

@RuneRoulette

Жыл бұрын

You slayed this comment ❤❤❤❤❤❤ ate them up

This was one of the most important parts of the whole book. You don’t need looks to be beautiful. Confidence radiates beauty. That’s what so many kids need to hear…

As someone who struggled with an eating disorder and still struggles with body image, this scene made me cry. They should have kept this in, it speaks to so many young girls (and guys) who struggle with the same things. Even if someone is conventionally attractive, you have no idea how they feel about themselves because of society's absurd beauty standards. I wish everyone could learn to love themselves a little more, because beauty comes from within and how we feel about ourselves.

I’m genuinely so shocked this was deleted. This was not only an iconic part of the books but also, an incredible message all around. Sofia’s acting in this is just phenomenal!

The fact that lady dovey is the fairy godmother makes everything make sense, this should have stayed

@sincereaec

Жыл бұрын

Part of me gets it, but I just don’t 🥴 what parts exactly make sense knowing Dovey is the Fairy Godmother? Also, I think they might have cut this scene just because this is a less intense version of the part about Agatha not trusting Sophie because people are complicated, but I think if executed a bit differently it would’ve worked well.

@PavitrStan4Life

Жыл бұрын

have you read the books? There's a lot in there that fills in the gaps

@suezcontours6653

Жыл бұрын

@@sincereaec No, it's the raceswapping. How many times are people gonna cry fowl at changing original characters. I think its good that they kept that part out of it but this scene is amazing because I am sick and tired of backlash. We have Wakanda Forever and Woman King and original content for black people.

@user-yy9uc3ll6i

Жыл бұрын

​@@suezcontours6653 I'm sorry, but are you complaining about the ethnicity of the characters? And as for your comment about there being content for black people .... okay?? Do you know how limited content for us was? And, the author of the series had a hand in the casting. So, if your intent was to bitch about it, then you're going against what the actual author wanted. This may not be your intent, but the last section of your comment rubbed me the wrong way.

@neonbreion

Жыл бұрын

@@suezcontours6653 the hell are you saying lol

THEY SHOULD HAVE KEPT THIS! this is so important to Agatha's moment and change of confidence on herself. i was looking for this moment in the movie cause this moment stuck with me in the book because of how simple yet a turning point for agatha's insecure and then a boost of confidence.

WHY DID THEY DELETE THIS THIS WAS MY FAVORITE SCENE IN THE BOOK

@tealabaker8888

Жыл бұрын

It... didn't happen in the book. Even the smiling thing was only a deleted scene, and there was no pretend magic spell.

@miastewart7931

Жыл бұрын

@@tealabaker8888 It basically happened. She just got a pretend makeover by nymphs I believe. Everything else is the same

@Cricket34d

11 ай бұрын

Mine was the Trial by Tale tbh

@philiplouisalfaro

7 ай бұрын

@@tealabaker8888it was entirely a different scene in the book but the whole “she just needed a smile” beauty transformation was in the book.

Agatha had so little personality outside of worrying about Sophie. I really wish they had given her more depth and time to discover who she is and this scene could of done that. instead it just became the Sophie show

@aureliaavalon

Жыл бұрын

Agatha had so much more to offer in the books, try a hand at reading it!

@47jjak

Жыл бұрын

@@aureliaavalon I'm sure she did. Her back story and inner struggles suggested alot of potential storylines. But they never let Agatha focus on herself long enough to explore them. Even this scene ended with her thinking of Sophie. I might give the books a shot tho

@Jaguar470

Жыл бұрын

@@47jjak Exactly and that’s what’s so frustrating, this is HER moment and hers alone in the book and all throughout the book while Agatha does deal with Sophie a lot, she also has a lot to deal with regarding herself. There was SO much more focus on Agatha’s struggles and insécurités throughout the book that the movie barely showed AT ALL

@user-nv9vn8fm1d

Жыл бұрын

Even sophie was written with less personality than she had in the book. The movie is such a disapointment. (even though the actors are great)

@B2UTYINDO525

Жыл бұрын

Movie agatha didn't do justice to book agatha

This scene should have been left in to create an actual character arc for Agatha. The film lacks in portraying Agatha’s journey of overcoming all of the ridicule she suffered in Gavaldon and learning to love herself, which the novel does so wonderfully.

@WTHnada

Жыл бұрын

SAME exactly this

This scene was so important to me when I was young. I would read it over and over again because it made me feel like I was beautiful. It really is such a shame that they took this out because it is the best scene in the book and could have inspired so many other young girls who thought they weren’t beautiful like I once did. It also adds so much depth to Agatha’s character and they made a huge mistake by excluding it.

This is such an important & powerful scene! Shouldn't have been deleted... A very powerful msg to young girls!

Let's just hope this gets a re-release with this scene in it, because this is a beautiful scene

@michaellarockwell6126

Жыл бұрын

If they ever make an extended version or something, this needs to be in it

@roonee7909

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@nelsvletav9818

Жыл бұрын

i hope soo

"My dear, there is no spell. True beauty is about being happy for being who you truly are." - Professor Dovey. This is such a beautiful quote said by her, one of the reasons why this particular scene is my favorite in the book as well. It gives out the message that it doesn't matter how someone looks, if they are happy with who they are, they are beautiful. Which basically means that everyone is beautiful, just the way they are.

They should have left this in. I got chills! And it was such a big character moment in the book too. They really left all of Agatha's character development on the cutting room floor...

She doesn't need to be beautiful to be loved. She just need to be herself and accept who she is.

Did anyone noticed how this scene kinda mirrors Sophie's introduction scene in the way how everyone stares at Agatha except in a more gentle and realistic way in contrast to the dramatic and theatrical aw the people in Sophie's dream?

@Jaguar470

Жыл бұрын

YES!!! Nice point!!

@yumijeinlagrimas7752

Жыл бұрын

@@Jaguar470 AGREE

Man, I haven't read the books but this scene is so powerful. As someone who struggled with insecurities and lack of self-confidence, this definitely resonated with me. You just have to believe you're beautiful and people will see that. Confidence makes one attractive.

@Jaguar470

Жыл бұрын

I really recommend you read the books, the way this book and this series shows Agatha’s growth and arc not only on herself externally but also internally is so perfectly reflective of what I went through who also is insecure and not self-confident. It was utterly BEAUTIFULLY written and Agatha’s whole character and journey meant EVERYTHING to me to read because I could relate SO well! I really recommend you read the book! Her journey to confidence truly is one that is so genuine and real I really haven’t seen anything like it before.

@estherfaith

Жыл бұрын

@@Jaguar470 thank you! I'll definitely check it out

@michaelinthebathroom7560

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, like Kayla said, the movies execute Agatha's arc really well.

@rebl7355

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man

@Omoge_Ifeoluwa

Жыл бұрын

I grew up doubting myself a lot and what I'm worth until I discovered that self confidence is all that matters... People who are great become so largely because they believed in themselves... It is the little different between average people and excellent people

this scene makes the whole movie so meaningful? and impactful? it wud make tons of ppl feel better tbh

Man, this is such an amazing scene to cut from the series. It is such a pivotal moment in a person's life to recognize your own self-worth and to put aside what society or others think of you. Some people never find that peace within themselves, shame Netflix cut this.

This scene was my favorite part in the books, too bad they deleted it, it gives character depth to both Dovey and Agatha. The movie was great, after all the movie is not based on the books, its an adaption to it, and they missed some important details that could have made the movie greater. The important details and plots that they missed were the ones that made the book a best-selling series, movie was still great though

@paularodriguez9540

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought about. In the books they gave a lot of importance to Agatha's insecurities and while in this movie they didn’t incorporate her struggle with her looks, this could have been the perfect way to do so, without making it main point of her character. Plus it is one of my favorite scenes in the book

@msk-qp6fn

Жыл бұрын

Professor Dovey was one of the best moments in the book and movie and this scene is the biggest reason, shame they deleted it

They shouldn't have deleted this scene, it gives more deep to the characters in general. Btw Sofía is to obviously beautiful to say that she isn't XD

@rishwinray9396

Жыл бұрын

It's Sophie

@azlxns

Жыл бұрын

@@rishwinray9396 they meant that actress, not the character.

@edithputhy4948

Жыл бұрын

she's the hotter one so it wouldn't even make sense

@user-th6cn5ln8q

Жыл бұрын

@@edithputhy4948 It does make sense…you can be insecure even if people think you’re not and it’s a very common thing to think especially as a teenager. That’s why a lot of people loved this scene so much because they could relate to it.

@edithputhy4948

Жыл бұрын

@@user-th6cn5ln8q being insecure while being attractive by society's standards is different than being insecure while not meeting them. the average girl would look at a pretty girl like Sofia and think wtf got she to be insecure about and even feel more like sh!t.

this is like, the ONLY scene they did by the book, and THAT is what got deleted?!

@Renikee

Жыл бұрын

Tbh, there are more scenes accurate to the book, like the evil and good transformation at the end (and Sophie looking like a witch), the wishfish, the stymph where they get taken away, and a lot more

@ChaoticMushy

Жыл бұрын

@@Renikee those scenes you mentioned are very VERY loosely based off the book and still got things wrong

This is such a beautiful scene, powerful and meaningful. They should've kept it. I almost shed a tear.😢

Netflix, please put this back in. If not for story, do it for the representation & the warm feeling you get in your soul from watching this moment. Sad to say, but not a lot of movies don’t have scenes as heart warming as this & it’s so refreshing to see 😭😭😭😭

I definitely think that they should have included this because it feels like the story mainly surrounds Sophie and even Agatha's love for Sophie. But Agatha has a storyline too. So that would have helped to make her more balanced. We gather that in some of Agatha's scenes like by the river she questions and calls out Dovey. There's also the scene with Tedros. So we know who she is at heart

this might seem cliché but thank you i really needed to hear that. i always had a thought in the back of my mind that i have to be prettier to be loved. this literally made me cry. also i hope everyone who reads this is having a great day!! cant wait for ss2

I cried watching this….More youth and adults need to hear this type of message.

They were crazy to leave this out cause the symbolism comes back hard later. Sophie throughout the film clearly had shallow wants and bad thoughts she considered her only friend a side kick while she was an “protagonist” and believed true love could be a one week relationship while lacking any knowledge of tedros. Her legit excuse to not save him was she had to be a damsel in distress.She later becomes ugly and cliché because all her negative qualities from her basic view of morality to her personality are being shown on her outside and not just her in.

I understand why they deleted it, probably because of the pacing, but it's a beautiful scene and I still wish they had left it in

@saihorton1360

Жыл бұрын

This is prime reason why they should have made this into maybe a limited series or something with hour long episodes than a rushed movie that left out majority of the book.

@liaistotallyfine

Жыл бұрын

@@saihorton1360 yeah, agreed. I liked the movie but I also haven't read the book and I generally believe that book-to-movie adaptations are better off made into a series

“Don’t judge these sleeves where in fashion back then” had me laughing

Wow how did a beautiful scene like this was being deleted? This is such an amazing scene. Being true to self. All of us esp little girls must learn this. I love this movie. I watched this a couple of times and cried at the same scene.

This scene is so good it feels so integral to understanding the characters. How did this one not make the cut?

it could have been great if this scene was included. i mean, the film was great and this could have added more greatness to it. anyway, she's really beautiful inside and out 🤧

This was one of my favorite scenes in the book... It’s actually bookmarked with a sticky note cuz I’d read it over and over again. I still remember the overwhelming urge to cry while reading it for the first time, simply cuz the message was so beautiful and had resonated very deeply. Sad to see it was deleted from the final product, but glad it was made available here!

They could've shown this to see what Good really is it really portrays Agatha's development on appreciating herself more

Why did they delete this scene? This gave incredible insight to Agatha and a little more understanding between the two.

I can’t believe this was cut.. An amazing scene for Agatha’s character and Sofia executed it so beautifully ❤️

I really like Agatha, she has a really charming smile ❤❤

Truly beautiful scene that shouldn't be removed 😢

Shame this was cut out of the movie. This is such a good message for all viewers.

Considering that she’s had people constantly telling her she’s ‘ugly’ & a ‘witch’ in her home town, this was a very important & beautiful (excuse pun) scene that should’ve been kept in. I do wish though that when Tedros says he loves her in the ball dance scene they would’ve given her a second to react in that moment before switching back to worrying about Sophie etc. That scene just plays wrong to me?

@finnfraser2228

Ай бұрын

I understand what you mean! I will say though that perhaps Agatha’s panic might’ve been quite high. It’s not every day you see a villain sprouting from a pool of blood trying to take over your best friend. 😂

If this scene had been in the actual movie, I would've been crying buckets of tears

This really should've been in the movie, it brought so much depth to Agathas character 🥺

I think this really gives across the self-conscious pressure many girls are put under. It really helps them understand that you are beautiful, no matter what. That all you need is to know that you are indeed beautiful. This scenes was so touching between Dean Dovey and Agatha. I think it really gets a message out there to the younger audiences of girls that they are beautiful.

I’ll never understand why they cut this. I genuinely teared up at this scene it was so beautiful

I remember this interview where Sofia Wylie (Agatha) said she was sad that this scene of the book isn't in the final version of the movie. And gosh... It bring so much to Agatha's character and deliver in the beautiful way a good message that anyone needs to heard. Why did they deleted it?!

I struggle heavily with insecurities and lack of confidence, but I found the one and he's helping me to see myself through his eyes. This scene resonates with me and I wish they wouldn't have deleted it. I loved this movie and I'll have to check out the books

@finnfraser2228

Ай бұрын

It is wonderful to read this comment. You hear too often the whole “love yourself before loving anyone else”. No one completely loves themselves and sometimes it makes a difference having someone that loves you showing you that which you couldn’t see clearly about yourself. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t put in the work, but hopefully you get what I mean. 😊

@alexispetro7703

Ай бұрын

@finnfraser2228 I do and I'm definitely putting in the work but he helps me to be more confident.

I can't believe they deleted this scene. It's one of my favourite in the books because it so perfectly demonstrates how Agatha's main insecurities was really only because of her perception and outlook.

"beautiful enough to be loved?" damn!!! does this line hits so hard!

This scene is kind of wholesome- This message kind of hits me, anyone else...?

I remember crying when I read this scene in the book as a deeply insecure and depressed 12 year old, it was important to Agathas journey as a character and, judging from the comments, was especially important to everyone that read it.

THEY FILMED THIS AND CUT IT??? This was arguably the most important scene in the book for Agatha's character development. Why did they cut it???

they shouldnt have deleted this scene at all, i love this scene❤

I’m literally crying that was such a powerful scene that should have been kept for all the little girls who are dying to hear those same words🤍 I love it !

@finnfraser2228

Ай бұрын

So true, girls have ridiculous amounts of pressure and all that does is hurt them.

I wish they kept this so much, I remember this part from reading the book the first time soo vividly, its soo meaningful to explaining why Agatha wasn't in the wrong school.

Why would they delete this!!!!! I'm sobbing!!! I was so mad that she was even doing the spell at the beginning and was so thrilled to see that it was a matter of confidence in the end.

should’ve kept the scene!!!! adds more reason to how great an actress sofia is!!! nominate her for an award already

Man, I wish they added this scene in the movie. I was waiting for it to come up while I was watching it but it never came. I loved this scene in the first book. In my opinion, and all of you too, this was and is one of the most important scenes to present Agatha's development in the story, and to showcase to children and adults alike that the beauty you so desired was already in you, you just have to believe.

They should have kept this in. This was my favorite moment from the books I used to read it over and over

kinda was disappointed when i watched the movie and this scene from the book wasnt included. i always thought this was vital to agatha’s character, because it emphasized that she was never ugly, nor was anyone, its just a bright smile that she needed to put on

@checksanity

Жыл бұрын

Except that message delivered in this way is bullsh!t and antithetical to the basic point "that beauty comes from within." A "bright smile" isn't what makes a person beautiful. Being told to "smile" is something that often is demanded of girls and women from cat-callers and adult figures that want the girl/woman to put out a positive/happy/good image with zero care for how the girl/woman actually feels. The movie emphasizes the Beautification class as being one of the things Rafal implemented to taint the school for "Good". I think the movie is better for not putting emphasis on beauty in that way. Instead showing how beauty can be misleading and hide ugliness--such as the peonies.

@alfarophiliplouisignacio3868

Жыл бұрын

@@checksanity i do think that the bright smile’s purpose is not to make her beautiful, it was presented in a way that gives emphasis to the idea that all she needed was to be confident of who she really is, as it is what was being stated at the near end of the clip that true beauty comes from accepting who you truly are. and i do agree on some parts of your statement like your idea with girls being told to smile was a way for cat-callers and adults to put on a mask and simply harass women in a very much different way. but i don’t think it is that applicable in the context of this movie. after all, you can still put on a smile regardless of what you are feeling inside.

@Rainienuabo

Жыл бұрын

@@checksanity It's not the bright smile at all. Agatha thought that it happened that fairy godmother put a spell on her and she believed that she was beautiful, that's why she was smiling in the first place! She was already beautiful, she just had to believe it. Fairy Godmother said that beauty comes from being happy with who you truly are. Didn't you remember that she also said the glow in Agatha's eyes. It's more of a mindset change and inner beauty than just a simple smile.

As beautiful as this scene is, and it’s an important message. Where it’s located in the narrative of the movie does not match the tone AT ALL. If this was included in the first act it would work but this would’ve completely taken me out of the movie if this was the scene immediately after the confrontation in the woods and seeing rafal, it doesn’t fit aggies character to just sit there and cry about it.

@aureliaavalon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, i can see why they cut it out since even in the earlier parts of the movie there wasn't really an emphasis on how insecure Agatha felt about herself, not nearly as much as Sophie. So this scene would feel out of place. In the book Agatha failed her classes and caused problems left and right, and also learnt Never spells to help Sophie cheat, which made her think she was a Witch after all and will never fit in Good. Sophie was struggling with Evil, and Agatha was also visibly struggling with Good. That was why the Mirror Scene worked at that timing. This scene is also dependent on understanding what a Nemesis relationship is, which was said only in passing in the movie. In the book, it was explained that when you had a Nemesis-- you are either up when they are down or down when they are up. Which is why it was the perfect timing for Agatha to realize she was beautiful all along AT THE SAME TIME Sophie realizes she was uglier inside than she had ever been. But I still think it should've been included in the movie to give depth.

@remylewis8721

Жыл бұрын

@@aureliaavalon I imagine if the second film gets greenlit they’ll explore this theme more but an interview with the author said that there were some intentional changes made to make it more appealing and relevant to new young audiences. Which is fair, like it’s loyal enough to the books to not alienate the original fans but it’s also still not made specifically for their age group anymore, for them it’s nostalgia. It’s like when adults read YA books and then get mad that it’s somehow unrealistic teenagers make irrational emotional decisions like… yeah they’re teenagers, that’s very realistic you’re just reading this from an adult perspective.

@jeilee3860

Жыл бұрын

They would’ve had to rework some things to make it fit but I think it’s something they should’ve done. This was one of the best parts of the book.

@UnBesoDeCristal

Жыл бұрын

@@remylewis8721 exactly

Why cut this beautiful scene! The message behind it is crucial for all ages especially the young girls of today!

3:47 her smile here really is stunning. she looks genuinely happy. i really wish this scene hadn't been cut

This scene made me cry so much because as a insecure person i really understand how Agatha feels about herself and listening a Fairy Godmother saying that being beautiful doesn't mean how you are physically, is really important. The fact that later Agatha wears a dress that looks like cinderella's dress make me cry even more.

Sad that they didn't include this in the final movie. Back then, When I read this in the book it made me cry because I was in Agatha's position, and have a lot of insecurities, But that part made me confident and love myself back then ❤ In the books it is such an empowering moment. But without the context from the books, and we will just bsse the plot and Agatha's character development in the movie, this scene isn't empowering and feels so out of context since Agatha in the movie doesn't seem to be self-insecure in her appearance

@Jaguar470

Жыл бұрын

Me too 🙂

They should have kept this full scene. The movie was great but this would have added more. Beautiful scene

This scene is beautiful and really should have been kept in. It shows Agatha that she is just as beautiful and important as Sophie. It shows Dovey as a good teacher (which was not shown enough as Lesso). It did sidetrack from the main story but really should have been integrated in the movie.

They should’ve kept this scene in the movie. This is that wild but necessary which all Gen z need to hear.

This scene in the books was one of my favourites, it really shows what really makes a person beautiful.

Why would they cut this? This is arguably the most beautiful/important message/moral to get out to young people and especially girls!

I was so sad I didn't get this scene in the movie, it's one of my favorite moments in the book and shows so much to agatha and her character. I'm happy to see that it was as t least filmed.

Moments like this are really needed in the movies directed mainly younger audience. But then... not only younger :)

@santaclaus723

Жыл бұрын

Nah I'm 21 and really needed that with my ugly as self 😂😂

@mentalbreaker74

Жыл бұрын

@@santaclaus723 that's why I writed "not only younger" I'm 27

This is such a beautiful and real scene. This scene would have resounded so well with the main idea of this movie.

Omgosh I can't believe they didn't add this in, it shows such an important message, this was absolutely beautiful and heart warming

I remember reading this in the book I wished they kept this heart warming scene in the movie because I wanted to cry like how I cried when I first read it made me fall in love with books and I couldn’t believe a man at the time could be passionate about beauty (a man written the books) because every man I knew didn’t want beauty in an shape or form just wanted the person they where with to be miserable there’s so many children’s books written by men literally cursing the idea and it was okayed for little girls to read so when this book back out wasn’t really about I only read it cause my mom handed to me and at 12 I needed that book and I just wish they kept that scene

why would you delete this??? so much better than those filler scenes 🥺😭

This scene was so important in the book. Agatha believed she turned beautiful but it was a ploy to show she had always been beautiful. She just needed a little magic to see it.

They should have kept it in. This scene is absolutely perfect and most importantly - something a lot of people need to hear.

I would have love if this was kept. Such an amazing message.

I remember this in the book, and I adored this scene. So sad they removed it from the movie.

@hamia321

Жыл бұрын

Especially because in the book, it comes after she aces a quiz all the other "princesses" had failed at because she answered honestly. She was brutally honest about what she thought would happen to her in the scenarios on the quiz. That's when Dovey comes to talk to her.

a lot of people commented that it was weird everyone was calling her ugly so having a scene like this would have fixed that

I can't believe they deleted this masterpiece! It's definitely one of my favorite scenes! 💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘 I love Sofia Wylie, I love "The School Of Good And Evil" & I love this scene sooo much! You are beautiful! Beautiful. 💜

I'm sad this scene got deleted. This scene in the book got me through a lot during middle school when I would feel sad I would reread this scene over and over. It was really helpful to me and I'm sad it's not in the movie but at least I have this scene