The quest where Justin teaches the player to jump will always be to me the perfect example of how old quests were better, it isn't about just adding new stuff into the game, its about the quests making the player feel a connection to that world and interacting with it in a realistic way. No person that starts horse riding learns how to do a perfect jump in 5 minutes.

I know some people hate it when we bring up the old star stable, but the amount of nostalgia I felt watching this really made me want old star stable back.

This entire video is so spot on! 💗 Also what bothers me about the entire change of soulrider introduction quests is how sse basically erased all the emotional core of saving Lisa and Anne. Like after saving Anne, she's literally left scarred and traumatized after being stuck there for so long and now sso changed it to her being there for what, two weeks? How did she get such a big scar over such a short time, if pandoria's affect is so quick shouldn't Lisa have one too? Back in old quest it actually felt like lifetime passed till we managed to save them. Also the way they also changed Lisa's rescue quest from her being rightfully mad at the dark riders and attacking them to her giving Sabine a monologue about the "power of friendship" is sucg a downgrade. Why fix quests that are not broken? I really miss the old quests, they were faithful to the og starshine games and actually understood how the story should continue

@banca7576

2 ай бұрын

YESS OMG. Couldn’t have said it better myself

@Madchey-Inc

2 ай бұрын

Imo, SSO tends to touch upon alot of things that don't need to fixed/even added. They add new things that we don't really need, and yea they add quests, but none really talking about our story. It's like pulling teeth to get anything new that is actually useful

@vivensire

2 ай бұрын

It's like we have them be besties with us served on a silver platter, meanwhile in the original plot we had to get closer to them through helping them.

@lunar_proxy

Ай бұрын

i mean lisa wasn't stuck in a crystal, so... maybe that affected it somehow

@horsecrazyviking7121

Ай бұрын

I feel like having gone through all the quests before the editing started makes the whole story more cohesive. It’s like they add new quests in line with old quests but then someone comes along and starts changing old quests with no regard for continuity or thought that newer quests are linked to older ones.

Personally, I really liked the way the game was before. The 'greatness from small beginnings' aspects worked SO WELL.

Not only forced, it's like all they are doing now: extremely superficial and rushed, it doesn't even have any logic. I remember that when we learned what happened to the girls, it was already a mystery which lasted, people were worried for a long time, we could feel something slowly growing in the shadows. Now it's just a huge chaos and us, beginner rider, jumping a huge obstable in 3 seconds and directly able to ride in a championship. They get rid of every possible immersion, just like when they allowed the magical horses to show their coats in cities/stable areas, it just goes against all the lore created for them. But it's all to satisfy younger kids. Also, Elisabeth knows how to summons fire... Why didn't she taught us that? We could litteraly have an efficient weapon against the dark riders, especially Katja!

@SuperSkyhorse

Ай бұрын

Totally agree. I still remember, how it was basically an unwritten rule, that as soon as you get a new magical horse, you rush out into the middle of nowhere to see the coat change, and how cool it was, when you could see others riding their magical horses and crossing that border.

@MusicComet

Ай бұрын

Honestly disagree with the wild horse coat change. Sure, it was cool the first time around but that's two coats and if you really want only one of them but hate the other then you're stuck jumping between the two constantly without having any say in it. It makes more sense lore-wise but gameplay-wise it's an incredible improvement. Not everything needs to be logical, some things are adjusted to gameplay rather than realism.

@SuperSkyhorse

Ай бұрын

@@MusicComet that just sounds sad. You would purge everything that has to do with lore, just for gameplay? You don't have to have every coat. If you dislike one of them to the point that you absolutely don't want to see it when your magic horse changes, then don't buy the horse. You save on money, and don't have to see something you hate that much. It's not a big loss, to not own one of the hundreds of coats. We already lost so much just to make the game more baby-friendly. The whole point of the magic horses was that they hide from ordinary people, and only show their true coat to us, because of our bond, because we are ✨special✨. Now, when they prance around the middle of the town in their magic coat, they completely lost their entire reason for existence. If they are willing to show off their coat to any random villager, why aren't they part of every random stable, and owned by any random person? Oh, that's right, because the lore and gameplay directly contradicts itself, probably because some people who are too lazy to walk away from the village, cried a bit too much. At this rate, you can just get rid of all of the lore and make the game a sandbox game, if this is how every little inconvenience will be treated.

@MusicComet

Ай бұрын

@@SuperSkyhorse You're twisting my words to fit your own weird narrative and I don't appreciate it one bit. First of all, I never said get rid of every lore aspect. Lore is needed, I don't hate it, but not everything needs it. Second of all, I said if you love one coat or hate the other, you would hate to pass up on one coat just because of the other one, wouldn't you? Well, maybe not you. Not everyone shares that sentiment and that's fair, but that doesn't mean you just ignore it because you're not part of the demographic with said problem. Now onto the last part. Gameplay, games are for playing, cusromization is an insanely huge part of MMOs as well. When games make things, sometimes they don't make sense in the world but are there to make the experience overall better (like chalk on climbeable ledges). I can tell that you're a horse-person first and foremost because you don't understand this crucial point. People who like games, know that 1 to 1 realism is often (NOT always) very boring. Not that realism doesn't have its place in games, but usually it just makes things very slow, tedious and impractical. Not to say that things shouldn't be slow or dumbed down or yadda yadda, quality, is what I'm talking about. Quality of experience. If a customization part of your game gives you a horse with two types of customization and you can't choose it, it's very dumb game-wise. Truth be told the trust of magic horses is frankly already weird to begin with considering you buy them from a random guy and they show your coat day 1 anyways because yayy magic. That's also stupid so I don't see why prancing around in a town makes it any worse. At best my fix would be to give them special quests to unlock them like in Hollow Woods and that's it. It doesn't need anything else. People like you who cry about realism, simply don't think of games as a game. You're welcome to dispute my points but I'd like you to at least understand where I'm coming from as someone who spends a lot of time playing various types of games.

@MusicComet

Ай бұрын

And that's not me saying that I love how they made the magic obvious, I don't, but I'm not opposed to them making magic horses. The game really doesn't have much else going for it besides hanging out with friends and customization. Something that a lot of MMOs fall into when they don't have too much gameplay in the endgame.

I remember so vividly how cool I felt, when Justin taught me how to jump.

SSO changes started happening in 2018. I think a new management came in that year that completely ruined the core and the heart of star stable online.

@Shadowfox486

23 күн бұрын

Yeah, I stopped playing around that time and came back about 1,5yo later... And the difference were HUGE. There are new things which I like, but changing the lore? - Why, oh why they did it 😢 It was good, now, as a player since 2013 I'm so lost in it, cuz I still remember "old" lore🙃

@jusssie010

23 күн бұрын

@@Shadowfox486 I feel the exact same way with the lore. It used to be so much more dark themed and the character's and music were alot more scarier and mysterious. I miss the Secret stone circle's old mysterious music that started playing when we used to have a druid meeting after we bring an important update on a new development at Dark core or when we saved one of the soul riders. Or the music that played at Moorland stables and the Vineyard etc. They were so peaceful and mysterious. The new music just sounds like regular nowadays music that you hear on Spotify. The old music was very unic and original that you instantly knew it was sso music playing. In general I just miss everything about old sso. I know partially for the reason I'm not playing anymore is due to age and different priorities since I'm an adult know and was a kid at the time. But it's also because the game is so different right know to the point that I don't recognize it anymore. Things seem way to magical and fake right now and I miss those old textures of the game that didn't necessarily made it realistic but more mysterious and different from other games. That's why I started playing this game in the first place back in 2014 after seeing those old graphics and the soul riders and quests and areas and stuff in commercials on tv. The other thing that bugs me with the game at the moment is that they took away the challenge in quests that made the game frustrating but also fun to play. It thought me patience and gave me motivation to try again untill I succeeded. Like the early quests when we had to sabotage GED it used to be difficult because those guards when they caught you in the act made you start over again untill you succeeded. Same goes for sneaking around at the GED oil side and then there was the time that when you fell off the cliff with your horse that it got weaker that it evantually made you return to your home stable to feed it and regain strength. You also weren't able to go out riding until your horse was feeded I believe. And so many other things used to be more challenging and difficult to pass. We used to actually have to wait for the bus to arrive, we had soulrider training with reputation that needed to be completed in order to continue the mainstory. That was part of the reason why players didn't complete all the available questlines in 1-2 months but in 7-9 months some even in a year or two because they wanted to take it slow. And even side questlines were fun and challenging. We had side quests with reputation or just regular ones. And they actually had some lore. There are so many unfinished extra questlines besides the main story that were never finished. Like the Icengate, the witch from Dino valley, the Kallters, Ashland, the fight between Chill and G.E.D, the lost major of Jarlaheim that is still missing, Marchenhast castle and the mystery around it, the unfinished questline with Avalon and the Kallters. Didn't they tease big things around the closed off gate to the Kallters homeland and the roar of the Yeti that made them leave (if it was the Yeti that made them leave) and possible updates to Dino valley? And all of that was teased near the end of 2018 for 2019 but that's not what we got they changed the whole game the following year and possibly scrapped certain updates to focus on more horses and things to buy etc. That's when the new management I believe enterd sso that cares more about money then the actual game itself. They also were going to expand on Mistfall stages 2 and 3 after 2017 but only one got released and then in 2020 they came up with a whole new area Wildwoods the replacement for North Mistfall. I'm really curious what the original road map for star stable would have looked like from 2019 till now if the original sso team was still in charge. I'm pretty sure the saving Anne quest would have looked different (all tho I liked it and almost brought me to tears), we would have gotten a quest about Lisa's secret mission involving her interests that Elizabeth send her off to while we and Alex were looking for Concorde. That's also a thing that bothers me Lisa's new personality and look. She used to be a rock star. I wish they would have kept that personality when they updated her not this country girl they created. I also wished they kept Anne's old annoying and rich attitude from the old games. That would have clashed with Alex's personality like it did in the Starshine games. Overall I just don't like the new game and miss the old one😂

I started playing in 2015. I still miss these times when sso was so much more magical, fun and realistic. I loved the way the game was challenging. Now i'm lvl 25 and I can only train my horses and being bored. I hate to see how the game changed in a bad way 💔

HONEY WAKE UP, KITTI SPIDERWEB POSTED A NEW STAR STABLE DOCUMENTARY!!!!!!

@helIokitti

2 ай бұрын

I'M UP!!! I'M UP!!

I'm one of those people that you mentioned who log in to buy the new horse only to almost immediately log out and return months later... To see a childhood game I've played since its release back in 2011 still be around today but lost its soul is heartbreaking. They've gotten rid of so many holidays that were fun and made you know that is was a Swedish game and have almost americanised it to now almost make it completely empty... There is nothing to do besides buying stuff which requires money which a lot of people don't have to throw at digital horses and clothes! They have turned SSO to a glorified horse simulator where the focus is them earning as much as possible then the players having fun as much as possible. 😢

This has taken me back 10+ years, I honestly have tears in my eyes. I remember playing these quests back when I was 14, and now I’m coming up to 26. Gosh how I long for old SSO😢

@Frida1545

Ай бұрын

I remember I only tried this game out a tiny bit when I was prob around 15-16 as well but I never got into it fully, don't know why, wish I did cause I only started playing more some years ago and missed out on all the old stuff :( I'm also 26 now hahah

as someone who played since the very beginning, I miss the old feel and look of StarStable, it looked like an actual 'kids' game, yet still realistic. The quests meant something and the story felt more genuine and enjoyable. Nowadays it looks cartoony and strange, non realistic and the quests and story make less and less sense. It's gone too far off the cliff to go back now sadly, but one can't help but wish it would all go back to how it was. good video. the kids playing these days don't know what they're missing.

omg i remember when i couldnt jump as a non star rider and was so excited whenever they released a starrider code and would jump everywhere

That shot of the old Horse Market made me think it'd be a cool idea for April Fool's Day to make it a retro week, where the old horse model was applied to our starter horse and old world textures were applied to the ground. Just for a day, purely for nostalgia and a way for new and old players to see how far we've come graphically.

I vividly remember completing the quest with Mary and her sheep the very morning I got my first star rider subscription as a gift. So sad they removed such a lovely quest that is practically the basis of my sso experience💔

I wish they didn't delete so many old quests AND horses, kept them, AND LIKE gave them an update instead. LIKE, SSO COME ON? Why???

@Smlhornybtard_Loon_therian20

Ай бұрын

ALSO - What bothers me so much is they took out every realistic aspect, LIKE IF IT'S ABOUT HORSES, keep everything realistic. why get rid of it

Please, never ever stop making content! So nostalgic and amazing.

The jumping ability has been semi reworked ever since they made the Moorland Camp for starters. I think at the first day you are there, you are only taught how to ride, and only the next day you can jump. Still, it does not give you the same feeling it did when you got star rider for the first time and immediately did all the quests to be able to jump, but it is better than before, when you could've immediately jumped after 2 minutes of playing the game.

I'm very excited for this one! As someone who started playing this game yearss and years ago I'm ready for the nostalgia trip and also disappointment these quests aren't around anymore

@helIokitti

2 ай бұрын

OMG og players unite!! ദ്ദി(˵ •̀ ᴗ - ˵ ) ✧ I'm so glad you got to experience these quests before their departure!! ♡

i miss these old quests so much, star stable just doesn't feel the same anymore

Exactly what I had in mind. I remember waiting months or even years for quests with soulriders. After we met Alex and Linda, it passed almost 3 or 4 years for us to find starshine ( when they added jorvik stables ) and few months to rescue Lisa. Not to mention waiting for Anne. I was so excited to have sisterhood completed and now it's like they are lazy. I know it takes long for quests and that we are not kids anymore but the magic is gone. I remember feeling so special to be the last sister to complete sisterhood, having the utmost connection with my soulsteed and to be more than just ready to fight agains bad guys😂. Also, doing quests in old druid paddock is something I will always remember. New players get most of the main quests done in a heartbeat and it makes me sad to realise that they won't experience original star stable that we all fell in love with. And the old soundtracks😢 and also, don't get me wrong but I am not sure why they added pride month stuff and other non related things. I have nothing against it but what does it have to do with original purpose of the game? Not to mention that June was reserved for midsummer which i guess was also removed. Awesome content btw. Keep up with it. I'd love to see more❤

@emi-memi

Ай бұрын

I play since 2013 and it took me years to complete all the storyquests. I also have a non-starrider account where I play sometimes when there is a free sr code. I completed most of the quests in like 20 days (all codes counted) when it took me years on my main account 🥲

@MusicComet

Ай бұрын

Tbf, have any other events had any purpose to the original game? You're telling me an easter bunny that turns your horse into a rainbow one is... realistic? There's nothing wrong with current events besides that they're making them really boring. Most were just more integrated into the island itself but the themes weren't really that in tune with the game either. I mean look at Halloween events. Back then we just celebrated it on the island in the cellar but now we just go to Galloper's keep. You're just weirded out because it's new and probably really unrealistic. Events are just events. A bunch of games celebrate these things without it making much sense in the game universe. They're just seasonal things. It's the last thing that makes sense.

I remember a quest where you had to sneak into a house guarded by dogs, i don't remember much, but i recall the intense stress that this quest gave me, i was 12 yo i think, and getting that bright red screen telling you you got caught with an image of three black dogs was really scary. Do someone remember this quest ?

@EliselovesFrieten

Ай бұрын

I do I believe the quest was located in the abandoned house around firgrove, we get the see the house I think in the Gretchen quest! (:

Personally, I would love to go through all of the current quest dialogue and compile a masterlist of the canon lore. Who's related to who, events that are mentioned, names, who's friends with who, who knows each other, and stuff like that. That way we could see the missing plot points.

As a player since 2014, the game is so.. dead. not in player wise, but in.. The models, the horses. It's so.. dead. The horses are nothing but cars. Our characters doesn't feel as expressive somehow. it all just feels so off. Yes, i do miss how i felt back when playing it. But i also miss how alive it was.

I like learning about these quests that were in and out of the game before my time. One thing to note, the quest with Linda and Meteor is actually still in the game! If you recall, after Linda is rescued, she doesn't have Meteor for a little while. The spymaster still tells you he was spotted in Golden Leaves, and his memories were altered. You bring Linda's riding helmet with you to try and jog his memory, and when you do, they are reunited. I recently did this quest on a side, maybe 2 months ago! One thing I disagree with though is the events of the quest take LONGER than 2 weeks. Jorvik Riding Camp just confirms you visit Jorvik a few days to 2 weeks before they go missing. Even without the day blockers, some of the quests actually say "some time has passed, lets recap". How much time has passed is up for debate, but I don't think removing the day blockers or the story updates included with Jorvik Riding Camp actually affect the timeline as much as people seem to think.

@kais3297

2 ай бұрын

yes, i just played it on my alternate account two days ago so its definitely still there

@rinishan

Ай бұрын

The day blockers did really made sense, though. I loved logging back in the next time, excited to regroup and continue the story.

Thank you for bringing me so much nostalgia back with this video! I feel so sad, that sso has removed so much amazing quests that strengthened my love for the game. One thing I still miss is the quests with kallters! :( This was something that brought a smile on my face, since I was so filled with nostalgia! gosh I wish someone would make old version of sso available again! I would rush to play it instantly! Your documentaries are amazing, thank you for doing them! :)

@banca7576

2 ай бұрын

The kallters were so cool!

I miss the old steve's farm and the old queests. Now they're start to remove the gen 2 arabians and pintabians.

New sso team made the game worse, shame on them, now all we have is boring updates, broken game, and lot of dramas

@oliwiasocha9286

Ай бұрын

+ they slowly go bankrupt

I believe there was also a quest with Marley or Jasper that gave you an orange saddle pad (in the same texture and model as the instructor saddle pads) and another that gave you orange harvest leg wraps (similar to the ones sold at Jarlaheim). But those quests were removed. I'd love to see footage of what they were about!

I've only played SSO since 2019, but the amount of change has been unbelievable. I watched so many KZreadrs who played back in 2016, and it just felt so much more alive and meaningful with longer lasting quests. It probably took me a year before everything was done and over with, and there was nothing else left to do.

I wasn't aware the pandoric rifts were also gone. The game has lost all of its character. All the new pretty models, while definitely a visual improvement, can't make up for that.

Fantastic video! There were so many quests you mentioned that I actually had forgotten about, but was pleasantly reminded of. The story and the quests are what always brought me back to star stable. There are some aspects of the new quests I don’t mind, but I do miss the mystery of learning who characters like Lisa and Anne were long before you met them. The creepy, darker aspects of what star stable used to be is what drew me to the game in the first place - a horse game that had some darker elements in the story, the mysteries, the creepy atmosphere and it’s a shame that the edge the game had has now been sanded down. Now that the darker aspects of the game has been taken away I’m constantly searching for another game that’s like the old star stable, but of course, nothing can compare. Im someone that loves change and development in games, and I love many of the changes that have occurred in star stable over the years, better game mechanics, better looking horses, more diversity. But it feels as though the game has kinda lost its core identity. The edgier aspects of the game that drew us to it as kids. I like imagining a star stable game with some of the new aspects that’s currently in the game, the diversity, some game mechanics, but keeping that creepy atmosphere, leaning into the dark aspects of the storyline.

i want old sso back so bad it hurts they ruined my childhood game

Oh man... You Made me realise how Long i have been playing starstable und successfully made me melancholic for the old Time where starstable still Had to be played trough the Browser😢

I started playing SSO just before the revamping in 2018. I really wish i could go back and experience the old magic again. 😭

hi id just like to say i really appreciate the content that u make! as someone who has always stayed playing sso mostly for its unique style and story sometimes it feels like very few of us in the community actually care about the storyline and questing at all, so its glad to see another long time player appreciate it so much :) not to mention i love the vids u do on sso history as it's a game rich in its own players' culture in a way, and someone just had to document it!

I miss the old Silverglade so much

Timestamps!

new player here! It's sad that sso changed so many of the quests. From what I have seen and heard, the older SSO game clearly had a sense of warmth and a genuine want by the creators to incite emotion in the players. I will say too, that it is clear that SSO has forgotten about its own deletion of quests, as some guardian of aideen quests are clearly based on old deleted quests. I.e. Elizabeth keeps mentioning the druid paddock where we 'had our training,' but as a new player we are never trained after beginning the protector of aideen quests. Just unfortunate that there has been such a lack of genuine effort by the SSO team to have meaningful, emotional and well-developed quests. Anyways, thanks for the video!

Would You consider making a material about the things like the fashion show that used to take place in Jorvik and also Raptor? I didn't have money to play the game as a star rider back in the day and I missed those things, but can still see an impact these had on players. I was so disappointed sso brought back Raptor this spring but didn't remake his model nor gave him quests; And now that they revived the disco - still no sight of him? That was such missed opportunity to bring him back :( I wanted to meet this guy so bad Also fashion is my current favourite aspect of the game so it's kind of sad it's not being used the way it could've been with fashion shows

your star stable documentaries never fail to bring back nostalgia ! I miss those quests and they are some that I totally forgot about but you brought back the memories ! 🥺

I can never get tired of your voice, so lovely!! I'm so glad you're back :) You give me the motivation to give this game a second chance every few months.

Setting up your pc in the morning and turning on one of her videos and listening to it as you train, quest, or ad is the best thing that I have ever done.

Now I'm sad I never get a change to play old star stable. It seem to accually have a good lore. I make my first sso account 2018, but started to play actively 2022 if I remember right. It's been two years and I just unlocked level 19. The mainquest are just so boring that I don't even want to play them. I'm more fan of the side quests, they are accually fun. I really liked the quest where was Igor and Frankie and you help them to dinovalley!

It's so sad that these iconic quests have been removed. What you said, basically the game used be more building, building up knowledge of the area and characters trough side quests. Like uniteing the soulriders and their horses, that was such great introduction! If they wanted to add in a riding camp they could also have done it with locals or other random characters, whom share information about the island before, giving some hints about legends, invoking some mystery. All of that before meeting the soulriders, could actually add some anticipation when hinting about the magic in a first regular quest. Another building step. About the storyline quest, I agree that it was a good formula in the past. Doing 10 minute quests to build up your reputation for 2 months, preparing for the new storylinequest and then experiencing it. Made it so much more exciting! I fetl so useful when closing the rifts all over Jorvik. If only they added that now as well. I miss that build up between storyline quests now a lot. All of a sudden my character is capable of doing some magic, but I have no idea when or how she learned that, how her magical power increased, I didn't have to do anything for it, it feels so plain and dry. It would be amazing if sso gave us magical training in between quests and if were then also able to actually use that skill in the quest. That would make it feel so much more like a reward and an achievement! Oh jumping was so much more worth in the past, I remember how excited I was when I was star rider on codes and then being able to jump again, I jumped so much. This game had so much more depth and passion into it, it felt like there was so much more endless mystery to be discovered. I don't feel that anymore, I have accepted the new version, but I have doubts about the future.

Thanks Kitti for another brillant Doco. Wow alot has changed. I have't been around that long but you are right when you have reached level 20+ everything seems to come to a crawl/grinding holt quest wise. They need a quest for the 20+ levelers that test there knowledge of the map and lore with checkpoints that you can't pass until you have completed each task to move on, at the end of the quest SSO ask what YOU would like as a prize and you receive that one special thing that you have always want in OOS from them as a thank you for long service to the game (Mine would be a Gen 1 Fjord) I think alot of older player would be keen to play maybe or maybe not. just a thought. thanks again Kitti for another stellar Documentary down memory lane and all that has been lost.

I remember all of those quests, although what made me upset the most is the quest with Mary when I came back to sso in 2020 😭, I wish we will see a wedding preparation quests in future with them. Also I started playing the game on my alt and as I’m seeing they only removed day blockers from smaller quests like the one with Conrad or the one with rainbow jacket, I wish they would take into consideration that they should’ve reworked the quests rather than removing the day blockers at all, in future we will see people literally speedrunning this game, especially that when I replayed the game the whole game (with reputations etc. In 2020!) took me a month to finish I wonder how much it’s gonna take when they’re gonna remove every day blocker. Also I love ur documentaries ❤❤

I miss old star stable so much. Star rider used to feel like it was worth it, and now I’m not sure if I would buy it had I started playing now.

im so glad i got to experience all of these quests on my own years ago. i miss old sso sm

So I just noticed this, but while I've never played old SSO, on my way from Moorland to Valedale I noticed... a sheep, apparently still there even though Mary's quest is no longer in the game. Looks like they forgot about it.

Linda's quest about Meteor was removed after january of 2023 because i started a new account back in november of 2022

I wrote my first comment in my first language recently as a response to a fellow Russian player, but I've got thoughts to share with a wider audience as a new SSO player. You see, as I started playing about a year ago, I never got to experience some of the quests. As a result, I may not see an issue with being able to jump right away :'D Or the day block/reputation. The latter I take less issue with, but I am glad that the only 2-month grind I have to do is, in fact, optional. You see, I think of it this way: people have different play styles, and some, like me, like to focus on the story. On my alt I did main and side quests at about the same time, so the day block was less of an issue, but for the very first time, on my main, I was punished for it, which doesn't seem quite right. Maybe at the time when it was still new, it made sense as players had to be kept busy, I understand that, but at this point in time... yeah. Sometimes the amount of quests between two day blocks was hardly enough. And in my opinion, "longer" does not necessarily equal "better" as at times it might feel like unnecessary padding. And we're talking about 2 months at least, and many spent half a year doing this. I suppose they were doing things at their own pace, which is not unreasonable, but that is a very long time to get to another part of the main story. So... I must admit, I am glad I did not have to do that. Rune runner is a chore as is. Although the reputation system is very interesting in and of itself, and I don't mind it. I feel like some middle ground was finally reached. It can still be tedious, at times very, but while it does take time, it's not an eternity. And as for playing for too long... there's no way to have a 100% foolproof way to implement a time limit without kicking the player out of the game after a certain amount of time spent in the game, which is ridiculous, so I don't know how effective these really are. I'm glad my concerns were pretty much addressed in the video, it's just that I can't help but feel this way. Now, to fellow players who didn't mind and/or liked it, I can say one thing: good for you. No, really. We may not see eye to eye here, but I'm glad you have a positive opinion on it. That said, I am not happy to hear that the circles were removed as they play such an important part in the original Starshine Legacy story, so expanding their lore and importance would only benefit the game. Which brings me to my next point. The changes in general, especially in the story... I do remember that one time when the developers of FF14 cut out some parts of the first story arc, they got rid of unnecessary fluff (but kept the cheese dungeon :T), and the weakest story arc in the game became less of a slog to get through. But SSO gets rid of its lore and story bits... randomly, it seems? The lack of consistency made it so that older players' experience is different from mine, and when I made an alt, I experienced the most recent changes myself. As a result, it's hard to tell what is canon and what isn't, and what will suddenly stop being canon despite it being so in my playthrough. I honestly wish I got to play old SSO. I really do. And while it is unfair to expect it to be exactly like Starshine Legacy when it also used Season Riders as its basis and expanded the land of Jorvik, as well as its lore, oh how I wish they didn't keep stepping further and further away from what made this whole series so special and different. That includes Jorvik becoming more magical. It is necessary for an MMO, I suppose, but in the original games, the world was, overall, pretty normal, magic and magical creatures were the stuff of legends many most likely dismissed as myth, not common knowledge. And I'd be more willing to accept change if the world felt alive. P.S.: I also do welcome the removal of day blockers. However, I feel like that decision will require more substance in their content, be it quests or events. I dislike day blockers because I feel like they artificially extend an otherwise short story, but I want quality.

@rinishan

Ай бұрын

I liked the day blockers. They felt annoying at first, and admittedly it shouldn't be used to make short quests padded, but it really made some story lines feel like they happened over multiple days. I really liked having to sleep in between and coming back excited to save a soul horse or rider, to continue a massive operation to take down dark rider's plans. Being able to save the world or a person in one day seems too ..easy? Reputation grind does make sense as an alternative ofc, but that can break the flow of the story if you end up taking really long to grind reputation. I log in quite rarely and keep forgetting what I was doing and why.

@MusicComet

Ай бұрын

Day blockers were a pain tbh but I feel like they could be kept in the game but made less miserable like for example... wait for 6 hours or something. Depending on when you play you'll have to do it tomorrow but some patient people might be able to do it in the same day. Some quests just seem like they really need it, either that or reputation blocks but reputation for a short quest is weird, however you always had the option to skip it. Had they just turned it into a shilling price then they wouldn't need to remove it at all in my opinion. Onto the reputation blocks... they are long, thatvs for sure. At most I'd just like them to keep it but shorten it a tiny bit. Probably by upping the reputation per quest numbers so it's achievable faster. I really thing reputation is necessary to keep players busy, it's tedious but it also gives time and lets people be rewarded for their work. Optional ones are best for side quests but story ones definitely feel like they should have it to up the importance of your training and passage of time. They're a neccesary evil in my opinion. Nobody likes them but you're greatful afterwards imo, because it feels more important. Is it lazy? A little bit, but that's not the main problem. The placement and implemantation is.

ALL true facts! The last 3 minutes is a total spill on Star Stable!!! Thank you Kitti!❤

I've been playing sso for about 10 years, a month ago I was bored, I created a new account and while doing quests I felt that something was missing, they even removed the quest with Jasper where you had to go to Fort Pinta to get Thomas's papers, now he just gives it to you 💀

@emi-memi

Ай бұрын

yeah, sso is even looking forward to remove all the timeblockers which makes everything too easy now 🥲

You are soo underrated!!❤ Love your videos! I always felt a kinda connection to the old so idk what it is but when I see something to do with the old sso, I feel sad but excited at the same time.. that why I always play starshine legacy because it makes me so happy! ❤ Sadly sso changed so much..😢 I do not recognize sso because the storyline changed alot and I miss so much places that are in starshine legacy..

I remember a lot of these quests, I still miss a lot of them. The jumping one will always be one of my favorites

ooh i havent seen your vids in a while so nice to see it again!❤

The deletion of quest hurts my soul more than i can explain! Its like what you said about a the storyline being a pyramid of blocks, once you remove one or two blocks the whole tower is at risk! This can create so many inconsistencies and it pains me to know that i wasnt able to experience most of these amazing quests! Curse you, finances!

what a nostalgia trip!

i miss the clueless person i was before watching this video... they did WHAT? THEY BROKE. THE WHOLE START. OF THE STORY???

I'm a newer player, since I started playing the game around 2019, when most of the critical changes were made. It was magical at first, obviously - buying the star rider after a year, and the whole world opening. I would spend all day just playing the game, but the lack of reputation blockers brought me to the endgame in about two-three months. Then I started getting bored, currently I only play now and then, I didn't even do the newest main plot quests. When I first got to know about the missing rep blockers, I was so disappointed, I felt like I missed a huge chunk of experience and story-telling that is never going to come back and that feeling comes back every time someone mentions those quests. Star Stable is always removing stuff to appeal to the new players, but from my perspective it's just robbing us of the gameplay itself. I wish they would change it back, but it doesn't seem like they plan to...

Oh, yesterday I was wondering when next video will appear, and look at what we have!! Almost an hour of great documentary *-* Thank you, Kitty, for your hard work ❤❤

I don’t like it at all that they have deleted day blockers and the reputation that was needed to build. I remember playing and always grinding to be able to catch up with the main story and it was so much fun! It made me excited every time I got forward with the reputation😢

this video was really good , also love seeing the comments aswell . I do remember these quests , clicking through them and running and getting the stuff. i do miss them because you just did so much and it filled my boredom .im not making another account to just replay them (paying) , but it seems like they have just changed so much so what would be the point of it anyways ! I also remember playing the renewed quests back in 2018 to 2019. I definitely prefer the older ones , so much more fun and i do reminisce on them .

@kittymeowmeow1234

Ай бұрын

I would say that i look for games like this but i dont lol , maybe i wish games would have a side storyline with detail .

Wow, amazing research, I had heard about some of the longest quests being shortened, but had no idea about the amount of quests the team took out of the game! With some quests I understand it, like the traveling horse market. I've always felt pressured to do those repetitive quests and dreaded it coming back most weeks. So I was really glad to see SSO get rid of repeating quests that give playerXP. Only to reintroduce them into the game a few weeks ago at the Starshine Ranch! I could not believe it, back to the grind for me. And this time it's not every three weeks but every single day! I hate that so much. Anyway :D I think it's a shame but it's also somewhat understandable why they removed Justin teaching us to jump. But with some of those quests I don't understand SSE in the slightest! Building the circus and setting up Lance and Mary were some of THE most memorable quests for me and made me feel like I'm a part of Jorvik. I'm so confused about SSE's decisions here and really heartbroken.

such a well made and packed with information video! it was a pleasure to watch and remember the old times, where everything just felt more real and interesting😢

This makes me so sad. I didnt get to experience some of these quests such as the justin jumping lesson and the ydris tent building (i started playing in December 2018), and i find it sad how me and newer players wont experience the same charm. I remember back in 2019 how me and my sister would always log on as soon as we got home, the game was so fun to us. Now, i only log on when new quests are added. There isnt much else to do. On top of that the game no longer works on my laptop due to it running on windows 8 rather than the current required minimum windows 10, and playing on mobile, especially with the new UI just isnt a nice experience. Its much less immersive.

Im not english speaker and my language is not in the game. But i can remember almost all of these quests, this is such a great video! Im really glad i got to play the game when it was still in the "golden age"

Kitty, you are awesome

30:20 i remember when on ferdinards market you had quests and you had to for example catch horses than ran away. ahhhh old star stable

i was one of the people that wrote to star riders to jump becouse i was really into champs and it was hard not jumping, but it really shouldnt be a 1st lvl thing

I struggle to have fun. Our entire family used to play (together) and had a ton of fun. While some of the changes were nice, they have made so many changes that the game seems weird. Just to experience it from the beginning again, I recently started a new character... and it is so different from a decade ago.

such a good video!! + your voice is so calming, it‘s so nice to listen to while training

Nooo they removed the jumping quest with Justin?? Big mistake >_> god damn I miss old sso, it was just different

the thing they said about day blockers being removed wasnt even removed fully cause i got a blocker when i did a quest with andy recently

@MusicComet

Ай бұрын

They mentioned that they'll be phasing them out slowly so that checks out.

i have never seen you before but i subscribed as soon as i heard your voice you sound so sweet and you deserve to be known💗💗💗

i find it extremely awkward being able to rush through the main quest now. i understand reducing day blockers or putting them in more reasonable spots, but removing them altogether was stupid

Looove all the nostalgia! Thanku for taking your time to make this!😍

So excited! You don’t know how much I needed this❤❤

@helIokitti

2 ай бұрын

YAYY I hope you enjoy sweetheart!! ദ്ദി ( ᵔ ᗜ ᵔ ) ♡

Yall remember the golden stars around Jorvik that you could collect? After finding a one the magical music started playing and that felt so special. I wonder what happened to those stars? Do they still exist?

@lunabraveknight

Ай бұрын

Luckiky they still do! ❤

I was so fucking confused when I replayed the game and saw Anne at the camp fire at Jorvik Riding Camp like dawg ain't u trapped on anotjer planet

You have such a sweet voice, I think you should try getting into voice acting!! 💚 I was obsessed with Sso back in 2015, the story and world was everything I needed (although I didnt have even a slight interest in real life horses lol). I’m an adult now but I still wish I could get something similar to the story quests from old sso. Nowadays the quest feel ether rushed, insignificant or they completely go against their own lore 💀

Kitti, actually, the quest to find Meteor is still avaible... I KNOW IT BECOUSE I DID IT YESTERDAY

The quest about the spy spotting meteor in the forest is actually still in game! I had to complete that quest a bit ago 😊

saving this for my tonight’s quest grinding

I grinded EVERYDAY to get those blockers done. I cant velieve they got rid of them! Its not about it being too easy - this will make players have 0 immersion in the game. Lets not forget how much we fought to get to epona. Bet they will open that one too to get to sell more horses

OMG yesss!!! So excited to watch your new video !!!😍❤️

@helIokitti

2 ай бұрын

I'm so excited that you're here!! ( ˶ˆᗜˆ˵ ) ♡ Thank you for the support sweetheart!!

The quest used to introduce game mechanics and storyline one by one in bite size chunks with breaks in betwean. This was wat made the story and the game mechanics so compelling! But now they have reduced it to near zero making the game both boring and rushed... And i think they are trying to get it back like with the runehorse and hollow woods but when the beginning of the story and game is so rushed that it makes for a inconsistent gaming experience. Its as of you're playing two different games that are somehow mashed together horrebly. (It doesn't help that there are places with more than 3 different styles of assets visible in game) I think that if i was sse i would put focus on story and gameplay progresion, modefiing assets to fit the current style and of course fixing bugs. There are enough gameplay mechanics to build further upon to create interesting and fun quest without it being just "recycled" or "go get it for me" quest. Because right now its just a broken inconsistent mess for a triple a game price...

Hey Kitty! Loving this video like all the others ones, but I have to leave this tip here for you: please make the volume of the clips the same of the ones you are talking. I had to constantly change my volume because the clips are too loud, while your voice is just right. Keep up the great work!❤

@helIokitti

2 ай бұрын

Oh thank you so much for this feedback angel, I'm experimenting with using these clips for a more immersive watch and I was very concerned if the audio levels would match. I'll keep this in mind for my next documentary, I'm very grateful for your support!! °ʚ(*´꒳`*)ɞ°

@bluekryztal

2 ай бұрын

@@helIokitti The clips were a very good addition, don't give up on using them! I don't know which editor you use, but I'm pretty sure all video editors let you adjust the volume of each section of the video separately. So if you look into that, it will be just right! Excited for more of your amazing and immersive videos, I absolutely love them!🫶

Nice! Now they changed the first missions we have when create a new account.. this is sad, i play this game since 2014 and a lot of changes are in the game now. I understand they need to update but WHYY change EVERYTHING? The first missions is so lovely and nostalgic! The mission you learn to jump.. ugh, so many good missions droped in the trash.. i miss old sso. Thank u for these video! I love seeing this and remember my childhood, gold times and good old times..

Honestly I do enjoy sso still, watching it evolve. I’m grateful for the older quests I got to enjoy, but I also like the new ones and I am jot sad for new players, they have their own experience to the game. And if I get bored? Well I put sso on the shelf and enjoy other games for a while

I just want our lovely horse game back to old and as it used to be.. once again.. 🥺

love these vids, can't wait for more!

whenever i watch ur videos i cry because i miss the origin sso 😢

I started playing at the end of 2018 and have encountered all of them except the old Ydris. I've only had the chance to meet the new one. The game has changed a lot and unfortunately not for the better. :( For me, all these changes are like getting rid of all the old elements. By removing blockers you can do a lot of tasks in a day and it becomes very tedious. Plus, most of the tasks actually even say "come back tomorrow". I am sad. :( Interestingly, when Ferdinand's horse market was finally moved next to Pinta Fortress, it got a quest that was also removed since they moved them to Marley's farm.

old star stable brings me the most intense nostalgia and longing to the point i feel vaguely sick. it’s so awful where the game’s priorities have shifted over the years, and how the overall style and even genre of the game has changed so drastically - what was once a magical, mysterious girls’ horse game with a side of horror and intrigue is now a cheaply-made cash grab riddled with glitches, plot holes and lost potential.

I miss old sso

I had been too lazy to do side missions. So i had like 11 open missions for months. I remember waking up one day and they were just gone. GONE

I'm so shocked some of these were removed???

Finally you posted! 😁