I’m coping with the hope she’s the herald of a new meta upcoming like Kokomi was for healing meta, but honestly, so confused why MHY would purposefully lose out on money by making such a beloved character turn out like this.

@ilovesplating3

Жыл бұрын

Apparently there's an artifact set made for dehya coming in 3.6, so there's definitely hope.

@Ivy-jq6di

Жыл бұрын

@@ilovesplating3 it’s 1% better for her overall dmg so there’s your hope :D I think the new Childe set is 6% better in comparison?

@FireFistance

Жыл бұрын

@@ilovesplating3 The artefact set is copium. Emblem will be still beter, there already are calcs. :) You'd nerf both your dmg AND your awful ER

@hiney4662

Жыл бұрын

There has to be some financial incentive for them in the long run to make her this bad and put her on the standard banner, but what that incentive is is wholly beyond me.

@fredxu99

Жыл бұрын

My tinfoil hat theory is that she probably didn't poll well in popularity for mihoyo's largest market (ahem Liyue bias ahem). So while Dehya is seemingly super popular among the western community, she's probably not attracting much fanfare elsewhere and they probably just decided it wasn't worth the investment 😥

Constellation 7: When Jumping, your ultimate won't get cancelled.

@daikikazumayt

Жыл бұрын

Constellation 8: When using her skill or burst, characters who previously couldn't assist Dehya by activating their abilities will assist Dehya indefinitely.

@slayhida

Жыл бұрын

Constellation 9: Dehya's burst now counts as Normal Attacks (And is now able to work with Yelan and Xingqiu)

@edgarahcow7748

Жыл бұрын

I keep seeing this about the jumping cancelling the burst, that's not the problem. The problem is the burst itself locking you into a lenghty animation instead of being a change of stance for the character. The jump cancelling is a way to end her burst to not having to stay 4 seconds with limited movility and open to attacks, it's stupid because the burst in the first place is stupid. They made a bad solution to a problem they purposely created in the first place, it's just a bandaid for the gaping wound that her burst is in the first place.

@slayhida

Жыл бұрын

@@edgarahcow7748 I know right I rlly feel like they only used dehya as a test dummy

@ZzzyoutubezZZ44

10 ай бұрын

Constellation 11: seeds will explode indefinitely of the size of the enemies

With enough hp, she simply refuses to die. Wish her skill had better uptime

@DinoDude101

Жыл бұрын

you can make her an afk dps

@airdrighmor1439

Жыл бұрын

I find that is solved by using her burst. The uptime lines up pretty good.

@astsophia

Жыл бұрын

I belive that at c2 if you just double cast the E it would have a 2 seconds cooldown. That is very interesting for a standard banner character

@whitecheeze_rf

Жыл бұрын

For real, if only her Burst reset/refresh her E-Skill uptime like Fischl and Kokomi

@chadachi3970

Жыл бұрын

@@airdrighmor1439 Issue is she doesn't get the damage mitigation while in burst because it removes her skill, so she can die if her passive heal is on CD. She also can get frozen in burst and when you spam space you can accidently jump, which cancels her burst entirely.

9s is too short for a Ganyu, even Diona's shield lasts 12s and Zhongli's shield lasts basically forever.

@bazah23

Жыл бұрын

If it was for the full duration of her skill she would be way better

@Zevyne

Жыл бұрын

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. She’s perfect for ganyu teams.

@atomiccore75

Жыл бұрын

@@Zevyne So much copium

@Zevyne

Жыл бұрын

@@atomiccore75 why take zhongli when you can take dehya that does his and Xianglings job that then allows you to bring kazuha? You’re so one tracked minded if all you see is the shield. Get a brain and stop watching people use a tank support as a main dps.

@kuronekosama6125

Жыл бұрын

@@Zevyne you meant Dehya does better than Xianling and Kazuha pyro infusion?

Its sad she doesnt work with xinqiu or yelan but if you really wanted to do a dmg showcase nilou's e skill actually has enough application for her to vape everything

@jakeryan2805

Жыл бұрын

Which is just sad bacause Nilou is specifically meants to be in bloom teams that it. Having to gimp a character that can do tons of damage just to make Dehya better.

@oh-noe

Жыл бұрын

use c2 ayaka support and make her melt

@vm8210

Жыл бұрын

@@oh-noe only bones has c2 ayaka, mogas is c0

@MooCow765

Жыл бұрын

@@oh-noe it’s pretty sad that you have to use such a strong character like ayaka at C2, just to have her do less damage then if you were to use ayaka elsewhere

@oh-noe

Жыл бұрын

@@MooCow765 I clear spiral abyss instantly without any difficulties so I like to play stuff that might not be optimal but still really fun. Using C2 ayaka as support isn’t sad, it’s fun to send your pyro dps to the skies and above. Even more fun at c4

I think she had that unique ability that HoYo wanna put in future characters and they are using her as a test subject.

@janbruns1671

Жыл бұрын

If she really is a test subject she shouldn't have been released in the first place

@Allylene

Жыл бұрын

​@@janbruns1671 it's like shinobu, who ended up being amazing in hyperbloom but not great on release

@foxshoot3138

Жыл бұрын

That's why they have the FUKING beta server

@foxshoot3138

Жыл бұрын

​@@Allylene Shinobu was a healer electro something that don't exist so that's something deyah what bothers my it's that ... She gets remplaced by a 4* that it's given free

@matrielle

Жыл бұрын

@@Allylene Just wait a few months or a few years for your character to be "great" (maybe)

You should try Dehya with Wanderer, since his interruption resistance is so bad. Plus she gives him the pyro ATK bonus so she’s actually a really good partner for him!

@marinehounsougan8715

Жыл бұрын

dehya's interruption res lasts 9sec so he's gonna get knocked down before the end of his skill. If you want a pyro applicator with decent shielding ; Thoma is right there, and he can trigger burgeon more efficiently than her. If you time his skill + his burst then you can have 100% uptime shield, unlike Dehya with her skill. Also if you have C6 Thoma -> his skill & his burst increases the active character's normal/charged/plunge attacks by 15%. So Thoma is always gonna be a better option for characters like Wanderer, Ayato or Yoimiya. We also have good Cryo shields like Layla & Diona, which increases his crit rate. The issue is that we already have characters that can do everything Dehya does better than her.

@StormiGenshin

Жыл бұрын

Good idea!👌🏼

@AryaPDipa

Жыл бұрын

Or you could use Thoma

@gp_2002

Жыл бұрын

@@marinehounsougan8715 You’re definitely right, but I think Wanderer is a good pair with Dehya for people who want to play her bc of her design and character :) just giving moga a suggestion for the god mode!

@kuronekosama6125

Жыл бұрын

1. Zhongli exist and he can shred anemo res from enemies. 2. Benny exist. He gives tons of atk and Scara can easily swirls pyro frim Benny's Q. 3. Dehya never be better than anyone in any aspect. 4. I love her tho

the biggest problem is that she doesn't work with A LOT of supports . she can't vaporize with the hydro appliers (XQ/yelan) , she can't proc beidou's burst, she can't work with yunjin's burst, she can't activate fischl C6 she doesn't even work w/candace, her friend (lore wise) it's so heartbreaking because i was super excited for dehya's release .she has an amazing design and good story ... i wish she gets better in the future

@vincikeeper1581

Жыл бұрын

At least she's best used in mono pyro team with lavawalker (Bennet Xiangling and Kazuha) but still it's so horrible. Ganyu dendro melt is also not bad, but elemental skill cooldown is long abd duration not enough.

She absolutely cannot replace zhongli because of her bad synergy and her skill uptime. She also doesn’t provide the elemental res decrease Zhongli does and if you want a shielder or some sort of a protection in a burgeon comp, thoma is better because he proc burgeon faster. Tldr if you want zhongli, save for zhongli and dont get Dehya even if her design and personality is awesome.

What were you thinking when you put that title on this video moga ☠️

Even C4 Yanfei's shield (15 secs) last longer then her Fiery Sanctum.

@daikikazumayt

Жыл бұрын

Albedo's lasts for 30 seconds with a 4 second cooldown. Dehya's lasts for 12 seconds with a 20 second cooldown.

I believe it's important to find what works for you and what you have fun with. She's very fun to play xD She can't replace Zhongli for me BUT I love her regardless and found she works very well in a Rosaria melt team (Dehya, Rosaria, Kazuha and Bennett). This team is so much fun xD. Edit: She works as a burst/sub dps in this team whilst providing damage mitigation for everyone, rotation is seamless.

@captnbluehat

Жыл бұрын

She can somewhat replace zhongli in some teams

@HondEpic

Жыл бұрын

@@captnbluehat That's fair, I'm sure she can in some teams. It's nice having options other than Zhongli xD

@shachede6828

Жыл бұрын

@@captnbluehat what teams?

@goodfriend4059

Жыл бұрын

@@shachede6828 Ganyu - Bennett - Dehya - Nahida

@stealinp1894

Жыл бұрын

@@captnbluehat can you tell us what team? just curious

People seem to keep asking if she can replace Zhongli..... I don't think she can even replace Thoma. Especially not on units (like Yoimiya) who benefit from Thoma's +15% normal attack damage.

0:32 “imagine being eternally immortalized in a BEEP montage. For just 4.99, and becoming a “Mega Moglet” Channel member, one of these very special beeps will be replaced with your name” Kinda cool ngl

I love how Moga kept on hitting the bosses when he absoluetly didn't need in order to see interrupt resist LOL

The sad thing about her is that even if they create a scenario where she's a better option than current defensive options, she'll end up being powercreept by any future units that give damage mitigation and any form of buffs or cc.

@The5pirit

Жыл бұрын

Beidou and Xingqiu already exist. They have damage reduction and interruption resistance without hurting themselves and do so much more on top of it. And they are 4 star units. There was absolutely no reason to cripple Dehya this hard.

@SakuraVocaloid

Жыл бұрын

the real sad thing is what would that scenario be? Shields are just better, and if shields don't work healing is better then dehya

@notatallfunctional

Жыл бұрын

@@SakuraVocaloid It’d have to be an enemy like the shadowy husk, who get stronger after hitting a shield. Also the enemy would have to be a lot faster than the shadowy husk, so it’ll be difficult to dodge. In this VERY specific case it would help to have someone who can give damage reduction and interruption resistance without it being a shield.

@SakuraVocaloid

Жыл бұрын

@@notatallfunctional as i said, then why not use a healer? Even barbara would be better. Or just damage reduction with xingqiu or beidou. In that case, damage mitigation would be better than shields, but still worse than anything else. So what would be a situation where damage mitigation is the best defensive option?

@notatallfunctional

Жыл бұрын

@@SakuraVocaloid You forgot the resistance to interruption. The type of enemy I described would have very fast hard to avoid attacks.

If you don't have Zhongli, save for Zhongli 🤣

@MikuVocaloidHD

Жыл бұрын

Instructions unclear, lost Zhongli's 50/50 to Dehya

@janbruns1671

Жыл бұрын

​@@MikuVocaloidHD that's the first thing to make me laugh in this whole shitshow incident🤣

@stars4809

Жыл бұрын

But Zhongli isn't a hot woman

@rozee8516

Жыл бұрын

ZL is mid af

I was waiting for a new video so much and here it is!! Thanks, Moga!!

One niche teamcomp I've seen that Dehya works well in is a burning comp with Dehya, Nahida, Sucrose/Kazuha, and Sayu/Yaoyao/Jean for healing. Dehya is there purely for weak pyro application (meaning it won't be depleting the dendro anytime soon) that will start the burning reaction as well as damage mitigation, while most of the damage will be inflicted by EM built Sucrose or Kazuha spreading the reaction through swirls (this also mean that it's their EM that will determine the burn damage). The key here is the damage mitigation Dehya offers, so someone like Xinyan or Thoma can also work, but Dehya is more comfortable with the wide area of effect of her elemental skill. She wants to use Sacrificial Greatsword for uptime though.

@ketchupntunamix

Жыл бұрын

hellllss yeeeeee, gimme that team build theory craft!

You're right, she isn't a DPS. Or a tank. Or a healer. Or an enabler. Or a battery. In fact, she is just teapot decoration.

@goodfriend4059

Жыл бұрын

Lmao😭🤣💀

@Bdog4114

Жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣

@ScarasRealLover

Жыл бұрын

Physical embodiment of "sit there and look pretty"

@cyrosgold7

Жыл бұрын

Actually she is an off field pyro applier and defensive support that can enable some strong teams and battery a pyro carry like Hu Tao or even Klee. The best thing about using her in vape and melt comps is she doesn't steal reactions with crystalize like Zhongli does, she doesn't even steal the reaction with her own pyro application if the other elements involved are being applied fast enough. Like pairing her with both Xingqiu and Yelan then adding your pyro carry. At most she will let Xingqiu get an occasional vape but thanks to Yelan there will still be hydro applied before the Carry's next hit.

@goodfriend4059

Жыл бұрын

@@cyrosgold7 holy COPIUM

The answer is basically no... since even if dehya is build to re heal constanly and not die 50% of the dmg will go to the onfielder and will die eventually. Also no dmg buffs from Dehya means she is really behind Zhongli... I argue her defence utility is worst than her dps since Genshin is a time based game and solo no coop, Dehya defense utility is not that great... She is an ok isgh replacement in Melt Ganyu but that's about it for any teams that would like a defence focus Dehya ain't it.

@airdrighmor1439

Жыл бұрын

With constant damage, a character in dehya's e survives about 9 seconds. With Zhongli shield, it's about 7. Pyro resonance vs 20% shred is the competition. Shred is probably better, but by how much? She replaces Zhongli in my double hydro Hu Tao team with zero issues. Similar abyss times.

@sweetieswifey627

Жыл бұрын

@@airdrighmor1439 not by very much surprisingly

@airdrighmor1439

Жыл бұрын

@@sweetieswifey627 i haven't tested it yet, and I'm sure its situational, but I figured it wasn't a large difference.

@simonditomasso9868

Жыл бұрын

@@airdrighmor1439 the shred of Zhongli is half of a VV shred, for your whole party. And Zhongli has much better uptime, plus Zhongli doesn’t need another defensive option on the team to make sure you don’t die. In the team you are describing, you could replace Dehya with thoma and you’ll get more dmg with similar defensive utility

@quangtuantran7181

Жыл бұрын

@@airdrighmor1439 Well yes, because Hutao n XQ can heal, minus one of the issues mentioned above. Not to mention Hutao runs ZL mainly for the interuption RES + shield, of which Dehya can cover here, and Dehya's weird 12/20 E and 9/18 passive uptime magically works well w XQ yelan Q and Hutao E. Also provides pyro reso not only for Hutao but also for XQ. So Im sure she can replace ZL in this team, but the OP said basically, not every team can utilize Dehya like this.

The answer is no to all of them. "Can she replace benny? No" Can she replace xiangling? No" "Can she replace hu tao? No" Can she replace Zhongli? No

@airdrighmor1439

Жыл бұрын

She replaces Zhongli in my double hydro Hu Tao team.

@aanyasrivastava9652

Жыл бұрын

@@airdrighmor1439 I am sorry for your loss

@airdrighmor1439

Жыл бұрын

@@aanyasrivastava9652 I'm not. She's mathematically 1000% more fun. I skipped Zhongli twice. Wish I'd skipped him a third.

@wafaay7182

Жыл бұрын

@@airdrighmor1439 How is she fun in that team ? You just place her E skill then switch off. If you'r using her ult in that team I am sorry to tell you you are actively crippeling your team's clear time in abyss.

@whitecheeze_rf

Жыл бұрын

​@@airdrighmor1439 it's okay, you have fun, that's what matters,

U should try clam set on dehya. Saw some videos on it and it's pretty funny, she can just go afk and clam + her passive makes her immortal while popping unreasonable bubbles 💀

@miraqen7801

Жыл бұрын

doesn't work on abyss and it's also the slowest way to kill stuff. the build pretty funny though.

@YukiKitsune361

Жыл бұрын

@@miraqen7801 yeah it isn't practical for abyss but the fact u can just go afk in open world or against weekly bosses like azhdaha is just hilarious (some guy fr spent like an hour just afk at azhdaha and killed him LMAOO)

The only way I can see making Dehya viable without buffs is if a new enemy was able to break shields, then her resistaince might be usefull. But I still feel like they should fix her XQ/Yelan burst procs along with jump cancel on her burst.

@reditahafsa7148

Жыл бұрын

Healers exist then. No way they'll introduce enemy which makes healing useless. Bennett, diona, kokomi, kuki, yaoyao make you need no other defensive unit in team. So her becoming viable is far from happening in a long time

was really expecting dehya to be somehow be a hybrid mix of zhongli and bennet, she could be usable if her elemental skill could somehow decently heal onfield characters with a lower downtime of course as she is a 5 star character after all

I think one of the teams she shines the most is ganyu melt with nahida and bennett, the burning keeps the piro in the enemy and nahida e reaplies it when ganyu hits

@ngasalaja2839

Жыл бұрын

If only her resistance buff is longer and her E doesn't have any down time :'(

I used her in a mono pyro team to all star second half floor 12 of the current abyss. I had to work harder but the team is overall ok. Sure my other teams can easily do it faster like my Xiao team for example but seeing Dehya unleashing her pillow punches is worth it

I know it's probably a waste, but I haven't seen yet anyone trying Dehya with a support Ayato or a support Ganyu. In her quest I was given the chance to try her and with Ayato's burst she vaporized almost every hit

@airdrighmor1439

Жыл бұрын

Look up Sekapoko's vod from yesterday. He does both. Support Ganyu is great. Chongyun is also great. Most CCs forgot he exists.

@CastlesCrmbling

Жыл бұрын

one of her best teams(maybe her best? idk) is actually with Ganyu

@whitecheeze_rf

Жыл бұрын

How about the rotations and energy requirements on that team?

@cloudwalker9572

Жыл бұрын

You are taking this the wrong way, she supports Ganyu not the contrary but you would still want xiangling and bennett with her. She basically replace zhongli slot if you need him elsewhere and allows you to use your burst on ganyu to get 4 melt on dehya's burst

@whitecheeze_rf

Жыл бұрын

@@cloudwalker9572 you can also replace Xiangling with Dendro unit instead

If you have Zhongli you litteraly forgot how to dodge… so Zhongli is staying there 😂

@mirajoy116

Жыл бұрын

Literally the reason why I haven't pulled for him. Learning how to dodge is part of the fun for me so I'll pass thank youuu 😂

@Okaismy

Жыл бұрын

as a mobile player zhongli just become a permanent slot

honestly if the coordinated attacks were faster and if the burst was treated like cyno (like a 15sec 'install') where it works with Yelan etc..... imo, that's most of what you need

My current Dehya team is Ganyu, Layla, Bennett and Dehya. She crits 30k on each melt burst tick wit Redhorn at 80 and 4p emblem. She can still be a pretty strong dps. You can give her the clam set as well to turn her self healing into a dps output and increase her HP.

@mathewhill4938

Жыл бұрын

My biggest hit so far has been over 60k on the final kick on her burst, the punches hit for around 44k, I honestly don't care if its stellar or not, I find her fun and that's what I care about

Saying Dehya can replace Zhongli is like saying soap can replace mouth wash, it still works but very unpleasant to use.

@henta.i.3838

Жыл бұрын

I don't know why you want to wash a mouse but the way you said actually makes sense.

@MT-uy6vw

Жыл бұрын

@@henta.i.3838 Lol fixed the typo

Xinquie E is way better than Dehya's E and his has immediate heal to active character. And having him on the team means more insane damage.

@cyrosgold7

Жыл бұрын

Ah, but Xingqiu's and Dehya's damage reduction does stack to great effect for the carry.

She actually can *sort of* be a side grade to Zhongli in Ganyu Burn-Melt! She gives interruption resistance and actually helps the burning aura instead of taking away from it like Zhongli can w/ his pillar

@mirnav2

Жыл бұрын

no

@luminous3558

Жыл бұрын

For 9 seconds every 20 seconds so you still spent half your time watching ganyu get punted into the stratosphere. Also dont play melt ganyu unless you really hate yourself.

Maybe her skill with scara so he can get the infusion as well as resistance to interruption while flying (I mean yeah you can just use a shielder with scara but if I'm gonna lose the 50/50 I'm gonna mess around✨)

I have a question,dehya e skill can help with dmg reduction right? But what if we have a shield,does the shield too have dmg reduction or will it just take normal dmg?

@whitecheeze_rf

Жыл бұрын

I guess it will reduce the damage like Xingqiu DMG Reduction, maybe... Idk... If not, then the mitigation only works for the HP and not Shield

I see her as a nice support with a dendro character for reverse melt teams and her interruption resistance is quite nice especially for bow characters.

Now that I think about it dehya's damage mitigation and interruption resistance would pair well with benny's burst, especially if your facing really hard hitters

For overload comp, she works pretty well with any Electro unit (like Raiden etc) so Dehya's more like an aoe elemental reaction type. By 214% overload etc EM. While Vape and Melt feel abit weak. Tested with 4pcs Paradise Lost set and a New Mailed Flower event weapon.

@Wolf_Spark

Жыл бұрын

Honestly that's the only way I've seen people get some value of her. It's kinda sad when you think about the fact that hoyo want's to giver her an artifact that won't help her much since people realized she's decent on an EM Build XD

@NeoSlashott

Жыл бұрын

@@Wolf_Spark indeed, so much fun experimenting EM stuffs on Dehya, having barbara and Raiden on her team and it's insane mix of colorful Paradise Dehya damage. haha

"its been a while since i've beeped" sounds like an innuendo...ifykyk😂

I feel like she could be a burn or burgeon enabler because both of these reactions struggle with heavily damaging your active character AND working best with timed intervals of Pyro application So a burn team with Dehya and Nahida or a burgeon team with Dehya, Nahida and Xinqu/Yelan could be pretty good

I'm using her on vape yoimiya (double pyro double hydro). It works, she just needs a healer. Its a bit funky but right now I have a c1 mona with protoype amber since I don't wana commit to full heals. It does seem to keep up thankfully since she uses her burst so often, but im sure benny works just fine, I just wanted the extra hp from hydro resonance. Be cool if some day they add a triple element resonance that increases that element's dmg with the party, like 3 electro increases electro dmg delt.

Funnily enough, I stopped using shielders with Yoimiya, because most of the time her back-peddling is enough to evade any attacks coming her way, as shown here. You'll still need to dodge sometimes, but if you want to skip a shielder, or don't have a decent one built, she isn't unplayable.

I'm using her with Full EM as an Overload/OverVape trigger on my Soup team, with Sucrose, Fischl, Beidou/Xingqiu

lol the way ganyu gets on the rock and sleeps before dying made me laugh at 10:50

You should try out the 4 ruin guard island to see her mitigation

@miraqen7801

Жыл бұрын

and 3 other co-op players

you could kind of use dehya viably against serpent knights and I also feel like there's gonna be more enemies in the future who work worse against shield users. Just like serpent knights.

11:00 With this, I thing Dehya can fit in a team like Yelan+Xingqiu+Hu Tao+Dehya. You have Hydro resonance wich helps everyone and Pyro resonance wich helps Xingqiu and Hu Tao. Also, Dehya doesn't heal Hu Tao so... Perfect fit?

@yami_does_stuff

Жыл бұрын

Maybe in a VV set-up too with kazuha hu tao xingqiu

@cyrosgold7

Жыл бұрын

This is one of her best core teams. You can swap out Hu Tao for other pyro carries too, like Yoimiya or even Klee or Yanfei. In fact Yanfei with a really good DPS crimson set and a prototype amber could get some strong vapes while providing a shield, energy for the team, and a bit more healing.

@IceKnight678

Жыл бұрын

You don't need healing for your hutao because she can heal herself

@cyrosgold7

Жыл бұрын

@@IceKnight678 True for Hu Tao, but for the Yanfei team that bit of extra healing is nice for the rest of the team, including Dehya. As for the Hu Tao team, the xingqiu heal and her own is all you need to safely hover around 20-30%HP.

Put her field the last before the dps Dehya's res to interruption work best for early game where you have no decent artifact, as that super armor work without any relation to any stats.

I wanna see someone try her out with Wanderer. Idk if it will work or not but personally filling up the last slot for a shielder in a Wanderer team is kind of annoying and regardless of how much damage Dehya does I’d rather have Pyro being swirled with Yelan and Faruzan, or Yelan and Bennett for that pyro resonance.

@Sai-sg2fx

Жыл бұрын

use Thoma, he’s free and at c6 buffs Wanderer + they already charged attack and double circle impact is cringe

Moga! You should try dehya with scaramouche! People rlly hate when he does his e and always fall! Maybe dehya will help

I hope they buff her. If the interruption resistance would hold the whole duration of her skill and if the burts refreshes the duration and did not take it from the field while active. Also if the hits from the skill could hit a bit faster that would be nice. Like every 1.5 seconds or so.

@Sara-ik5po

Жыл бұрын

There’s a leaked set that says when the equipping character takes damage, skill and burst damage increases by some amount and it can stack up to 5 times. So that is a possible buff but idk if it fixes her problems.

@this19suffering

Жыл бұрын

@@Sara-ik5po yeah I know, that wont help her much, sadly.

I just saw a video with Dehya with Clam set!!! It's crazy good on her!

I can only imagine she was released with interruption resistance and a self heal because Hoyo is trying to usher in a shield-less meta. But didn't they do that with rifthounds already? What's the point of putting emphasis on less damage and more damage/stagger resistance? Are they gonna introduce an endurance level in Abyss?

@arceus6912

Жыл бұрын

A workaround for rifthounds is healing, when kokomi was introduced. They can push the shield less meta to the extreme by introducing enemies that can restrict healing and bypass shields. But I doubt they will do that at this stage.

Imagine having a team of cockroaches with dehya,zhongli,Kokomi and Barbara. You will achieve eternity🎉

@ivanseryogin6526

Жыл бұрын

qiqi instead of barbara would be even more unkillable

@acey6536

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@@ivanseryogin6526 definitely! Unfortunately I forgot qiqi existed while writing the comment

@q4m00r

Жыл бұрын

with Kokomi it’s probably gonna be able to kill bosses + zhonglis burst

@unfunnyskull

Жыл бұрын

just use clam set on all healing characters especially dehya and c6 barb/qiqi you will literally never die and do damage at the same time if you dont have the shield on

Her scaling is like Ayato, you can use atk or hp sands but the difference (C1 for Dehya makes it much much smaller) is minimal. HP sands at c0 just makes her tanky but she will deal 6% less dmg than when she's using atk sands but she won't be as tanky. C1 lowers that dmg difference from 6% to 1% less dmg with hp sands. This is with her signature and WGS.

@shachede6828

Жыл бұрын

It’s not like ayato. Ayato hp bonus is not as significant it’s one percent bonus to the namisen, so you can totally not build it and not see significant DPS decrease. It’s a dmg bonus. Dehya is totally SPLIT SCALING. She scales of both HP and attack almost equally. Ayato is a bonus.

@chadachi3970

Жыл бұрын

Ayato Hp scaling is a bonus at most, not actual hard scaling. It's nice but if you go full HP sands his damage will drop significantly, the benefit he gets is that Hp% is not a wasted substat so you can feel less bad about getting it.

@SoulHydron

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​@@shachede6828 i thought her split scaling was more like 3:1 att to hp

@danielcarrilho5217

Жыл бұрын

@@shachede6828 wrong, at C0 Dehya HP scaling is minimal even then, you should probably run ER% sands anyway ER rolls = less room for crit rolls

@ParafrostV

Жыл бұрын

@Chadachi Dehya isn't hard scaled on hp too.

i heard somewhere that her NAs during her burst does not do damage, only the automatic ones you get from doing her burst actually does dmg so NAing during her burst doesn’t actually speed up the rate of attack, but i’m not sure about the validity of this statement

When I feel like messing with some interruption resistance (I don't have Zhong-li) I just use Layla... she has better up-time than Dehya (at least until C2) and does damage passively without me having to think about it. Plus her burst is so cheap it's like it's permanently available :o

@Axterix13

Жыл бұрын

Her C2 does nothing to help the ascension passive, so you'll still be looking at 9s of good resistance, same as if you didn't have it. It'll just let you get an extra 2-3 procs in, plus potentially do a bit more damage with your procs if you took damage. Also worth noting that Layla's off-field damage works on shielded enemies, which is important, as that's how she generates energy, with those things she shoots off. Dehya is also dependent on her ability to generate energy when it is proc'd... but like with Albedo and Raiden, it doesn't fire off against shielded enemies. Which it really should for Dehya and Albedo (Albedo especially, since his E is a very sizeable chunk of his value to the team).

if full blown tank its ok to have HP but not good to go for main stat HP artifacts. If you run Attack sands you need ER sword but its better to just run ER sands with the Damage Sticcs (Crit Stat/Atk%)

If the interruption resistance increase works with Wanderer in the air, it seems like she could be a good character for the Wanderer thanks to the damage redirection helping Wanderer survive with his abysmal health and defense, on top of the Pyro application helping him do more damage

@krumi_hazuki1440

Жыл бұрын

It works

@luminous3558

Жыл бұрын

Just use thoma and enjoy some buffs as well.

@derp24lordz

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@@luminous3558 unfortunately I don't have Thoma

u can use nahida's elemental skill to pick up the pupas

This statement of mine originally referring to Candace but I think it applies even more to Dehya "Her viability is inversely proportional to her attractiveness and damn shes hot"

dehya can be dps, but with that you need a team of buffers, i dont mind as shes a fun character to play with

@mahdi2268

Жыл бұрын

But at full buffs she does 25k only

@captnbluehat

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She can be, but she isn't meant to be.

@captnbluehat

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​@@mahdi2268 thats your account buddy

@kazekori9593

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unfortunately it is bad

@mahdi2268

Жыл бұрын

@Captn Bluehat not mine people did testing she does around 25 to 30 k at full buffs I am not bringing these info from no where

To those who have Hu Tao and Dehya, may I ask what happens if you use Hu Tao’s elemental while Dehya’s damage share is active?

@alexandrem798

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Hu Tao's HP loss is considered DMG, therefore Dehya doesn't mitigate anything.

@IceKnight678

Жыл бұрын

Hutao not taking damage from her e is bad tho

Damage mitigation is like Aurius (Epic 7). That alone won't enable survivability, but it is effective when stacked on top of healing/shield sustain. For Genshin tho, stacking survivability is not the most important thing and healing or shield alone are already adequate. Still, who knows how much we will need it in the future. We could get more annoying and hard-hitting enemies.

Fun fact: if u set the time to night so 00:00 i think masanori will be buffed u can see by the time

moga try her passive with the clam set and a lot of hp and do nothing when enemies attack

Maybe you can try dvailins breath attack for mitagation/resistance?

moga idk if u know but theresa new artifact set coming for dehya in 3.6 and its pretty good the 2pc is hp and 4 peice increases burst dmg by 80% or something

@TeeHeeSteve

Жыл бұрын

Math was already done and it's like a 1% difference to emblem set

@firestorm2459

Жыл бұрын

That set is only for c4 or above dehya.

@ProjectTranzationz

Жыл бұрын

It’s not 80%, its 50%. And it’s a sidegrade to Emblem, because you’re missing out on the extra ER%

@Wexer0002

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectTranzationz kk

Work with Chongyun?

Give her the clam set with HP artifacts and she won't die, but also do some damage too.. kinda.

My team is dehya , Kokomi , Rosaria , and Mona and the vape is nice and she critts alot tho ima be honest I did skip on a lot of hp and build her crit for damage I really didn't want to build another hp character 😆

I was having beep withdrawals. Rewatched for that reason alone.

during her story quest (i don't have her so that's why i'm specifying) i tried her with a burgeon team and she wasn't too bad? i had her with c6 bennett, c0 nahida, c1 collei, and c0 kokomi (?). she wasn't that bad actually, because i didn't have too much trouble triggering burgeon with her normal attacks, and her burst wasn't too bad either. she's definitely not the best character by a long shot but i wouldn't say she's the worst or that she's horrible and unusable since i actually liked playing her. (tip: if you want to do burgeon i'd suggest c6 bennett, nahida, and kokomi or mona. if you don't have c6 bennett you could get away with the dendro traveler, mona/kokomi, and yelan/xingqiu with dehya acting as the driver using her NAs during her e skill or burst to trigger burgeon)

Hi Moga!

I’ve been using her on second team for abyss since you can’t have two Zhongli’s and she’s performing pretty well

a zhongli and a pyro dps, Thoma does fit that description pretty well, except his burgeon build actually does damage.

You should try dehya with ocean-hued clam full hp and see the enemy die itself 🙈

Try 1 shot attack raiden or scara, that's interesting i guess

her only really good team would be a ganyu melt team with nahida and benny since even burgeon doesnt work if the enemy is too tall

Can dehya use the bell?

To add insult to injury, her story quest lacks effort. Alhaithm quest has cut scenes, black & white flashbacks while Dehya was given a damn *drawing* as both cut scene and flashback. *HoYo hates her so much*

try her with wanderer

Everything about Dehya is sad....

Lite tip. Use The e skill in The burst mode

Just use Thoma...

@minxzyforyu

Жыл бұрын

thoma doesn't increase resistance to interruption and he doesn't apply pyro for bow charged attacks

@moodindigx9407

Жыл бұрын

​@@minxzyforyu How does he not increase resistance to interruption, he's a shielder? You are right that bow charges attacks can't make good use of it but in most cases Thoma is generally just better or good enough to not justify pulling Dehya just for defensive utility while also still having the benefit of pyro res and the extra normal/charged/plunge attack bonuses at c6.

Problem is that even mihoyo dont see a future w/ dehya which is y they threw her on standard. I suppose even Keqing was redeemed but statwise she was alrdy pretty strong on paper even before dendro and was literally in the same position as Yae miko. Dehya looks gud and decent but she’ll never b meta

Currently running Dehya alongside Benny, Kazoo and Yaoyao, and honestly not having any issues. Do they clear things as fast as my other teams? Not at all, but the "cool factor" of her animations are what do it for me. I haven't tried them in Abyss, because frankly Abyss is boring af, the rewards are lackluster and ultimately clearing the Abyss has no effect on anything whatsoever. I hate that it's become the metric by which everyone judges a character.

Her kit seems good for a burning comp. But we need someone like a burning Nilou boosting it. I do see future hope. But it's just hope right now.

@slavber1

Жыл бұрын

in what way is she good for burning?

@cyborgnc1500

Жыл бұрын

@@slavber1 2.5 sec off field pyro application. Damage mitigation for the onfield. Healing just enough. Does she not line up with Nahidas off field dendro also. Lifting her field during burst just to place it back after. The biggest issue I have with it is her weapon makes no sense for it but her kit says burning to me.

@slavber1

Жыл бұрын

@@cyborgnc1500 burning teams are just burgeon teams without hydro, also thoma is better. but if count burning teams as mono-pyro teams, yes, its basically her best team

@cyborgnc1500

Жыл бұрын

@@slavber1 Yeah I agree . But what I am thinking is how Nilou is Hydro and Dendro only scales off HP. (Tinfoil hat time) I am thinking Pyro and Dendro only scaling off Attack. Another team that limits elements. Just for burning only. Now Dehya's kit makes more sense to me. (Remove Tinfoil hat). If you squint you can kinda see it. lol.

I like Dehya's mitigation ability a lot, it depends solely on her own investment and is an excellent way to beef up one's team when there is reason to avoid shields.

hey i just got c1 hu tao with homa and i already have a good shimmenwa set should i still get the crimson witch set?? please suggest

@mahdi2268

Жыл бұрын

Get crimson the damage you get from crimson is stronger than shimmenwa if you still need help watvh xyox his guids are the best and simple to understand

@MergedWarriors

Жыл бұрын

Depends on what you want from your hu tao. Shimenawa boosts her personal damage while crimson witch boosts her reaction damage like vaporize. Personally I use the crimson witch set for my c1 hu tao with the staff of homa. Shimenawa I have for yoimiya with her thundering pulse.

@sara_s1737

Жыл бұрын

I would argue to stay on shimenawa if you already have good pieces because it can take a really long time to replace an already good set. While yes, in some cases crimson witch could be better, that domain is awful in terms of value for your resin. You could try strongbox for crimson pieces if you really want though.

@wwxluvr2643

Жыл бұрын

I personally prefer crimson (I don't like that shiminawa takes away your ult energy, hu tao's ult is pretty strong and has large aoe + heals her) but I think that if you have a good shiminawa, crimson isn't really necessary, bc it can be a bit of resign waste (you don't know what's your luck going to be and crimson witch domain can only be used by few characters, whereas artifacts from shiminawa domain can be used by basically any char)

@stealinp1894

Жыл бұрын

i say stay with shimenawa, farming all over again is just waste of time and resource

If the resistance is up, maube C0 Lisa would be good with Dehya.

Dehya has actually really helped me in abyss, I run Mono Geo on one side and Dehya’s mitigation being 48% reduction at level 8 as well as that 9 seconds of uptime on reduced interruption has made Bennett as a solo healer for my wanderer. Feels much better than my Thoma because failing to stack enough shields in his burst is really punishing. I do wish her burst was stronger since using fits nicely into a lot of rotations but the tanking aspect is the one part of her kit hoyo didn’t mess up. She’s disappointing because Pyro supports have only been worse since launch. The game LITERALLY Released with Bennett and Xiangling as THE Pyro supports, hoyo can’t power creep them on the raw numbers so they tried to go with damage mitigation. The issue with damage mitigation is if you make a Pyro version of Zhongli, you power creep HIM because Zhongli’s only draw back is the fact he has no reactions. Dehya’s field lasting 12 seconds compared to Zhongli’s 20 second shield that can be refreshed every 12 seconds means you’re trading a lot of potential mitigation because she’s Pyro. That mitigation costs her the ability to put up Xiangling numbers and without also prevents her from providing any offensive buffs that Bennett can provide unless you run 4 piece tenacity which Zhongli gets better use out of. She tries to accomplish way too much so the parts of her kit she does well are only passable and the weaker parts of her kit don’t contribute to what she does well. This is consistent of all Pyro supports after launch too, Xinyan’s shield is shockingly short and needs her burst to have a 100% uptime but her burst is too high cost to allow you to invest into her shield, and her passives don’t patch her issues due to the fact one of the just buffs physical damage and the other lowers the already unnecessary level system built into her shield. Thoma has the same energy problem. His burst is really high cost for a character that generates particles once per rotation so you need a good amount of ER to have his burst off cooldown but without hp you can’t stack his shields which leaves no room to invest into the damage of his burst. Pyro supports are obviously not allowed to compete with the launch two so when hoyo tries to get creative, they shit the bed. It’s been only four stars in the past but making a 5 star with the exact same limits of not being able to compete with Xiangling or Bennett leads to the most underwhelming character in existence.

@Dragonburn71

Жыл бұрын

I’m saying this as someone who loves Xinyan, Thoma, and Dehya. It’s clear that Hoyo refuses to make a third Pyro support on the tier of Bennett and Xiangling. Even Yelan is allowed to be a sidegrade and used as a partner to Xingqu, with the addition of the 5 star character fluff of only scaling with hp and having her breakthrough charged shot. I don’t see why Dehya couldn’t be a sidegrade to Xiangling with her 5 star fluff being her resistance interruption and damage mitigation

How about using lavawalker artifacts with her ,most ppl using her with mono pyro team anyways

I pulled for Benny cons and ended up with dehya

@wafaay7182

Жыл бұрын

My condolences 😔

@Zxrlorn

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry

I would have preferred her E skill to do dmg only on cast, but enemies within her field constantly have pyro applied to them with no damage along with the limited increased poise. No damage, but the utility is better but thats just me :3

if you compare her to zhongli shield then its the comparison about survivability. which is quite interesting from new player perspective because... while those players exploring zone on their first playthrough with Dehya, they will be mostly immune to these stuff as it literally cannot exceed her healing passive (but req. high HP) ・dragonspine, inazuma in some area and chasm goo's DoT damage. ・Azdaha rune curse which normally you need shield or you take DoT, this DoT can't kill dehya while other attack moves from him could do so if player didn't dodge. ・Signora's cold,heat DoT+ground damage. again, assuming you don't take any other big hit from her. of course, all these has nothing to do with harder content so veteran player will be like "..so what?" but yeah, I think that was her design to begin with. being in standard banner as QoL improvement and easier to get for losing 50/50 (I'm aware its harder for some people especially me not having diluc for entire 2 years despite of being dolphin)

Hey man, try using the bell for science

She's really a good burgeon unit you just need the premium sumeru cast (al,nahida,nilou,candace) to make her really shine.

@mirnav2

Жыл бұрын

she cant hit most of dendro cores.

at the very least, she's somewhat given The Bell an actual use case, which is commendable in and of itself.