edit: As of season 4, boomstick now has a fixed reload delay of 0.4s: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fK12vLCxeNnag5c.html This is a reupload because for some reason the processing got stuck the first time. Sorry to BeavisOfArabia for catching a stray there, in retrospect I was mostly just irritated at the person calling everyone else dumb while they were completely misinterpreting the SCC tooltip. (But also, please try things out before recommending them.) Other drg test/info videos: kzread.info/head/PLqTo6tQ9tCOrABARyls3C94qzGo6TW3h_

@thahrdworkingingo

2 жыл бұрын

You could always just cut out the name and profile pic of the comment. Gets the point across that the sentiment is out there without putting anyone in specific in the spotlight.

@LazyMaybe

2 жыл бұрын

@@sponger59381 Correct, cryo does not apply environmental cold.

@krustin

2 жыл бұрын

Solid music choice for the beginning btw.

@dataflex6528

2 жыл бұрын

Can you tell what’s that mod map where you’re testing all guns in your guides pls?

@LazyMaybe

2 жыл бұрын

@@dataflex6528 It's a room you can spawn in using sandbox utilities.

Starts talking about special powder. Rocket jump waltz starts playing. I love this channel.

@Jellybean_Prince

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was awesome

@TheDaxter11

2 жыл бұрын

I got the biggest fucking grin. Especially since whenever I'm explaining what this OC is to people who don't know about it I just have to say "You know the Force-a-Nature from TF2?" and so far everyone I've said that to has understood what it does.

@aperturescienceguy2737

2 жыл бұрын

The force a nature on bath salts

@theentiretyofthelgbtq5479

Жыл бұрын

@@aperturescienceguy2737 slide some of that red sugar in the pellets to make you fly away

@desKoFiK

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDaxter11 gun from half-life that shoots through walls!

I am a firm believer that "Unga Bunga Super Damage" weapons are some of the funnest in the game - Hyper Propellent/Jumbo Shells User

@GordonGordon

2 жыл бұрын

Those mods really turn the M1 key into Del instead.

@DoMw4r

2 жыл бұрын

- Hyper Propellent/Jumbo Shells Enjoyer*

@kaidothedrunkard

2 жыл бұрын

Reject Double Barrel, return to Monke Shells. *Ook Ook*

@roguereaver634

2 жыл бұрын

Try max damage upgrades with Volatile Bullets on the Bulldog for maximum unga bunga on anything you can set on fire

@kaidothedrunkard

2 жыл бұрын

@@roguereaver634 Not Unga Bunga enough, too much brain power. *Ook Ook*

Your thorough testing and dry humour has quickly made this one of my favourite DRG channels. Keep up the great work!

@iratecastorcanadensis3971

2 жыл бұрын

I love Calvin and Hobbes

@TesseraktGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I second this. However, LazyMaybe is the best, hands down.

@linnonline

Жыл бұрын

If you don't want to die you shouldn't eat precious minerals ⛏️😈

@smokjozef

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I rewatched every weapon breakdown here at least twice and still view them

@Camothor10

4 ай бұрын

He didnt keep up the good work 😢

I loved your polite little rant about people making assumptions or simply spreading false information. I spent thousands of hours mathing out all of the damage interactions and testing practical uses of skills/weapons in the Monster Hunter series. People would ask for help farming gear and designing a set to help them improve and then proceed to argue against my every suggestion. Sigh, I loved helping but it felt like a war against ignorance at times. One stat at a time man, you're doing great work. Thanks for these awesome uploads.

@sirkelendor5429

2 жыл бұрын

Monster hunter players are too blinded by the communities collective masochism to listen to your reasoning

@cagrboyraz3442

2 жыл бұрын

War against ignorance... War against ignorance never changes :D Unfortunately, same ignorant kind of people play any game. MMORPGs, MOBAs, you name it.

@tabnk2

2 жыл бұрын

I just don't understand the people that ask for help then argue against said help. They clearly don't know what theyre doing; if they did then they wouldn't ask for help. So why do they act like they know more than whoever they're asking for help?

@pearshaped9116

2 жыл бұрын

Dude I think I’ve actually referred to your stuff, thanks for your service :)

@Nedenator

2 жыл бұрын

Mh be like that some times

rocket jump waltz fit so well when you were talking about special powder. edit: I'm talking about 19:34

@drow7077

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't have to do it, but he did, and I'm glad he did. RIP Rick May.

@Gnome_Tank

2 жыл бұрын

Rip rick may, gone but not forgotten

@Sky-bg5wt

2 жыл бұрын

Was looking to see if someone commented on this and I am proud that DRG and TF2 are both amazing games and community.

@thebevil8127

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sky-bg5wt i have more than 750 hours into tf2 and has started playing drg quite a bit lately. even thought tf2 has been suffering quite a bit lately it will never leave my memory :]

@bluedreemurr9515

7 ай бұрын

Godspeech you magnificent bastard.

The beginning rant of this video does a good job of highlighting my persistent issues with GSG's weapon balance philosophy. They seem to be perfectly content to leave things objectively unbalanced so long as enough players are using the weaker option. Even if the whole reason players use that option is due to sheer ignorance. Here's hoping this video can gain some traction and impact the pick rates on Quickfire Ejector enough for GSG to do something about it. But in a world where they've left the poor GK2 essentially untouched for several years I just don't see it happening.

@alphateam6580

2 жыл бұрын

I want a larger weakspot multiplier on AI stability engine.

@turmspitzewerk

Жыл бұрын

@@alphateam6580 AISE just isn't worth the downsides even if you're insane at aiming, let alone if you're the average player. GSG *seems* to want to give the average players an easy time with the skill based weapons, so why leave AISE so mediocre?

@mdc_dashie

Жыл бұрын

@@turmspitzewerk oh how things will change for season 3 lol

@toddoverholt4556

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the statistically weaker option (quickfire ejector) because of the gameplay feel. it feels like I'm wasting my second shot most of the time by missing

UPDATE: DOUBLE BARREL HAS BEEN REWORKED AND IS NOW A VERY FUN AND STRONG UNSTABLE OC WHICH BOOSTS YOUR SHOCKWAVE DAMAGE BY A LOT ADDITIONALLY, THE TIER 2 RELOAD BUG HAS BEEN FIXED.

0:56 oh wow, I didnt know that! the entire reason why I use zhukovs is because I thought they were better at killing swarmers than boomstick. One minute into the video and I already learned something new. Can't wait for the videos on the other weapons.

@croma2068

2 жыл бұрын

Well, Zhukovs are still better for killing swarmers in terms of ammo economy. The shockwave just helps the boomstick not be entirely useless at it.

@Phoenix-qv9hg

2 жыл бұрын

The Zukov's are better at quickly picking of smaller numbers of swarmers with precision shots, a Boomstick Shot however is utter waste against smaller amounts of Swarmers .It's Shockwave can technically kill large amounts of swarmers with one shot, if they are clumped up enough. But in reality that doesn't happen all that often and when if it does, Zukov's still perform more then adequately by going full auto on them, just like you would with Drak or GK2. I might be biased against using it that way because I am a Jumbo-Shell Enjoyer, which obviously makes the wasted potential a lot higher. TLDR, they both have their upsides in dealing with swarmers, and I wouldn't say the Boomstick is better in that regard. It's a valid option thou if you are taking it for other reasons anyhow.

@abrittishpanfish6269

2 жыл бұрын

I used them for that but now I like headpopping grunts with them as well, though cryo bolts crossbow is so nice

@aquapotato..

2 жыл бұрын

i find zhukovs to be pretty trash at killing swarmers just because of how small they are + spread however i do find them to be much more efficient at killing grunts for the ammo spent

@jacobfoxfires9647

2 жыл бұрын

Think of it like this. If there is a Swarmagedon where so many small buggers are going to overwhelm you, the Boomstick is a really solid secondary to have.

Special powder ruined every other scout secondary for me. I feel so immobile without it.

@liamcivil5978

Жыл бұрын

Bruh same the added mobility just makes scout feel scout like I just can’t get away from the starting rifle with AI stability engine (I think it’s called that) and a special powder double barrel sprinkle in a little battle frenzy on the rifle and you have just really solid damage and mobility

Finally a video that explains the reload speed in DRG. I kept seeing numerical values for reloading speed and rate of fire and always assumed they were flat values in seconds, but not 1/(value) = x seconds for each stat.

@LazyMaybe

2 жыл бұрын

To be clear the reload stat is just in seconds, so the default 2 on boomstick is 2 seconds long. Meanwhile the 'rate of fire stat' is 'how many times can this fire in one second', which is why you can represent it as '1/X=seconds of delay'. (And then this also, unfortunately, determines reload delay.)

The amount of hidden, counterintuitive or just wonky interactions and oftentimes bad tooltips makes these videos an invaluable resource. Also, I think your style is just perfect for these. Definitely looking forward to the next video. P.S Thanks for getting Blistering Necrosis fixed, it's quite fun to use now.

Love your weapon breakdown videos, i find that a lot of the in game text doesn't fully explain weapon dmg and interactions so your videos help a lot!

Chad move to say the plural of Mactera is Mactera. The official pronunciation is Macteras but saying Mactera as the plural just sounds so much better

14:58 ”Your boomstick jump killed 47 innocent lootbugs. Someone has to pay for your crimes, Scout. Who's it gonna be?” *_- _**_-Driller-_**_ Gunner_*

Deep Rock is such a weird game, as that you always find out that something isn't working as shown on paper. Never would've assumed that attack speed factors into reload time. Good video and gave me a lot of insight into this weapon I never managed to get warm with. I probably still won't use it much, but at least I do know some things if I decide to now.

These weapon breakdowns are extremely helpful for new players like me, most of the videos like this are years old and outdated

@zeophalanx1751

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, they aren't anywhere near as in-depth as these go. I've watched build guides that tell you to use the things Lazy has proven are terrible. I bet there's plenty of Scout guides with Quickfire Ejector in there.

Double barrel should just double the pellet count and shockwave damage then ammo count to 1shot per reload and ammo by 50%

@LordTrashcanRulez

9 ай бұрын

Brother, I think you just got plagiarized by GSG

"Oh you know, just gonna do these for fun because people enjoy them even though they are old weapons and everyone know's everything" Proceeds to blow peoples minds with Double Trigger fuckery explained in detail. Love your content dude, keep it up :D

I saw this uploaded earlier, now I can watch it lets goooo

Really glad to see you looking at all the weapons. It's great to have some math and theory put into practice to come to a better understanding about what works and what playstyle works. Can't wait to see more!

YES THANK YOU!!!!!! I cannot wait for the rest of the weapon breakdowns. They're so useful to understanding how the weapons actually work

Man, the amount of work you put in those videos is astounding, I'm in love with them. There might be a chance they'll fix the reload delay problem after this, because the devs seem to pay attention to your channel, as they said during the last DevStream that your Wave Cooker video was a great help on fixing the Blistering Necrosis OC (if you want to check, they start talking about it at 11:55, and you're directly mentioned at 12:32).

Great video. Mod and OC breakdowns with build suggestions. Exactly what I want to see. You promote the weapons so well, this video really made me want to pick up the Boomstick again. And it's been so long since I've used the Boomstick, I even thought Double Barrel and Double Trigger were the same thing.. ugh..

I'm so glad to hear you're doing more of these. I love how in depth and thorough these guides are. I have around 600 and a half hours on DRG by now and I never knew about a lot of the information you make light of in these videos; for example damage type percentages, resistances, the reload issue with the boomstick mod, and especially blistering necrosis pre-patch. Anyways, thank you for continuing this series, I can't wait to see what's next!

I really appreciate the guides. Every time I think I have this game figured out, I realize its more complicated than I previously thought. Its also super useful to see multiple opinions and to have them properly defended

You're doing god's work here! Amazing, simple and efficient presentation. Keep it up man, you're helping A LOT!

These are really valuable to me, explaining mechanics that I never even realized were there

Great video all around. Always nice to get some in depth information on weapons and mods without having to go on a 3 hour long wiki binge and testing spree. Looking forward to future videos of this series and specifically really excited to eventually see your organized thoughts on the Totally Not A Space M1 Garand™️.

Thanks for making these weapon breakdown videos. They're really informative and fun to watch. Honestly I never really make 100% serious thought out build because it's so intimidating to have to consider the effects of each overclock and tier of mods on the weapon as a whole and this really helps puts things into perspective.

Dude how is this the first of your videos I've seen? Love the in-depth analysis!

That was great. Can't wait for a video on the GK2 and the Gunner primaries.

@sturmmagnunstein1008

2 жыл бұрын

He does have one explaining the problems it has along with the ocs, so might not happen again. Still, i do wish we get a more detailed break down on its base stats, which is a huge part of the problem as well.

@lucasmoreira2418

2 жыл бұрын

@@sturmmagnunstein1008 I mean a detailed video like this one. I still use the GK2 to this day, but I wanted to watch a detailed video like this one on it.

@sturmmagnunstein1008

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasmoreira2418 yeah, i hope so too. His video on it is pretty great, though, so its worth checking out if you havent. I have a pretty comprehensive list of why the gk2 is not competitive compared to the other primaries, but im also trying to identify what its strength are.

@lucasmoreira2418

2 жыл бұрын

@@sturmmagnunstein1008 honestly, I tried the DRAK twice and I'm just... Really not a fan. And my aim isn't good enough for the M1000, plus I'm not a big fan of it either. I know people consider the GK2 to be underpowered, but using it with AI Stability Engine works much better for me than any of the other Scout primaries.

@sturmmagnunstein1008

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasmoreira2418 i gotta break it to ya, mate. If you dont like the m1k than the gk2 is even worse for you. The gk2 is far more aim intensive because of the poor break points, and though you might feel that it is more forgiving on misses than the m1k due to the ammo count , know that it also has zero capability for crowd control, which with the right mods the m1k can absolutely do. The easy answer is that the gk2 has poor ammo efficiency, but the long story is that it is multifactorial why the ammo efficiency is considered poor. The easy fix i think would be 1) make damage upgrades more meaningful 2)give it an option for blowthrough 3)rework the mod trees to make builds more meaningful.

Great, clear breakdown of the broomstick. I also paid very close attention to all of the music. Excellent choices throughout.

Jumbo shells metal montage had me jumping up and down, that was so sick. Love your vids, keep it up!!!!

That doom music at the end was perfect! Love your video's they very well made, and I love the pro math life you got that!

Excellent breakdown on the Boom Stick. Very nice pointing out some builds and gear mods to take for optimum performance. I fixed my builds as a result of your video! Looking forward to more on other weapons. 👍🏻😁

Love these videos you make great content and its great seeing what insights you have with way more hours than me

Great and informative breakdown, hoping for more breakdown content in the future. Keep up a good work!

LOVE these breakdown videos, especially looking forward to the PGL! hopeful to potentially learn something new about it

Recently joined DRG, thanks for the video, noticed you added the Rocket Jump Waltz while explaining the Best OC , nice addition

As a new player, these vids are lifesavers, thank you! Excited to see the rest!

Oh man, the background tracks, the sarcasm, the Moral Orel...perfection! ❤

really good vid, ive always used quickfire ejector and now im pumped to get way more capability

_The Rocket Jump Waltz_ cutting in at 19:32 was perfect. I trust this will return when covering the PGL.

I didn't even wait for you to say "If you've been using Quickfire Ejector, you should switch to Double Trigger immediately", I had already opened up Deep Rock and switched on all 5 slots after your initial example vid.

I have a couple hundred hours and I'm over level 100 and I'm kinda ashamed how much new stuff I learned here. After my total greenbeard phase I never really used it because it felt so weak compared to zhukov's with cryo minelets OC, but knowing all this now (especially the firerate problem) I can't wait to try it out once more after such a long time (especially once I get special powder). Thanks! :)

@cyborg_chris2125

2 жыл бұрын

I have almost 1600 hours in this game and am still learning stuff. Don't be afraid to try out everything, cause guns can go through many changes and builds that make them very good. Whats most important is that whatever build you run you can play it comfortably and thus be a benefit to the team.

@drillboyjenkins5740

2 жыл бұрын

There is no shame in having lots to learn about this game even past 200 hours. Lots of stuff there is poorly-worded, and the game is a casual co-op FPS. I do keep finding new stuff out even past 2k.

that thumbnail alone makes me want to find a doom music mod for drg, thanks for that, i didnt know i needed that in my life

The Jump Academy music during the Special Powder overclock is GENIUS Wholesome and very useful video! Thanks

I miss the doom gunner mod so much. It’s still with the old modding page. Came with a unique OC for the broomstick that really gave it that doom feel. Was it a balanced mod? Hell no. Was it fun? YES.

I think the problem when it comes with testing out builds in the field vs testing them out on paper is that players don’t test them out on high enough difficulties. If it works on haz 4/5, it’ll work on haz 2. If it works on haz 2, it won’t necessarily work on haz 4, and probably won’t work on haz 5

love this vid. I saw it before you took it down but couldn't comment before. more like this please!

Playing Rocket Jump Waltz for Special Powder and BFG Division for Jumbo Shells? This is why I love your videos.

Bro, thanks for doing this. Very informative, plus, cool doom-theme.

Thanks so much again for these amazing videos man, I’m sorry when they end

Got my sub, hoping to see a breakdown like this for every weapon!

Great video. Big eye opener for me, especially on T2. Can’t wait for more hot takes and more ancient gamebreaking bugs coming to Jacob and Johann’s attention in this series hahaha

The fear mod might sound bad on paper, but it can be extremely handy in a real game. Scout can struggle with sustained damage due to being constantly swarmed (and so he has to grapple away and find his footing again), but shooting with this mod in the midst of a swarm can give scout the breathing room to take out praetorians, wardens, etc with his primary.

@VorpalSword9

2 жыл бұрын

I would agree with you... if it was consistent. But you can't rely on fear to give you breathing room if the fear chance isn't 100%, you have to either risk getting chomped or grapple away anyway. And white phosphorus is completely broken, so...

@Phoenix-qv9hg

2 жыл бұрын

@@VorpalSword9 Can be annoying when using cryo nades or having a cryo focussed team. But since cryo is a lot less present these days, I would agree.

@necr0va

2 жыл бұрын

​@@VorpalSword9 Although white phosphorous does more damage, I think the utility of fear is more appealing to scouts like me who want a more "grounded" playstyle instead of grappling around every 5 seconds during a fight. The fear mod also helps if you run cryo grenades since white phosphorous will revert the frozen state and ruin the 3x damage multiplier.

@necr0va

2 жыл бұрын

​@@shaunhayes3072 Consider the fact that it's 50% fear *per shot* , meaning firing 2 shots in quick succession increases the likeliness of enemies fleeing. Also consider that you're killing swaths of bugs just by doing so (assuming blowthrough rounds). You're essentially a human shield as long as you keep shooting. Also there are plenty of situations where you'd want to stay grounded, pretty much anytime you have to be defensive, i.e. drilldozer missions, salvage missions, hacking missions, etc. It's hard to explain how reliable the fear mod is with just words. I suggest trying it out in-game, it truly does make a difference. I've been using it for two months now and never went back to white phosphorous.

@LazyMaybe

2 жыл бұрын

It's 50% fear per shot-BEFORE resists. Most enemies(including all grunt variants) have at least 50% fear resist. So against most enemies, it's only actually a 25% chance to inflict fear per shot.

amazing, thank you. can't wait for the other vids in this series.

Great analysis & editing as is tradition, big thanks for all your content. I'm compelled to put my two cents out here after watching your vid because I've tried both upgrades and keep coming back to faster reload on boomstick when I'm running Special Powder. The self-propelling force of a single shot is almost always enough to get me where I need to go, and using the faster fire rate upgrade usually results in me firing both shots on accident when I only needed one. That niche scenario where you've fired one shot and want to reload quickly comes up a lot for me when I am boomstick-jumping into or out of a situation and want to reload midair. I think with discipline and practice I could get more consistent about not accidentally firing off both shots when running RoF upgrade, but between the base stun chance of the boomstick & the focus on mobility over killing power of a hoverclock/special powder scout that extra killing power doesn't feel as handy as having a smoother "feeling" midair reload. I think this video highlights very clearly how the RoF upgrade is objectively superior to the reload speed upgrade, but I figured I'd put this comment here and see if any others agree with me that the reload speed upgrade "feels" more compatible with a mineslave/objective-crusher/full-mobility/ammo-stingy scout playstyle. This opinion of mine is in contrast to the phenomenon you addressed of people promoting build choices they haven't actually tried. In my case I've put hundreds of hours into both options, and the subjective experience is not congruent with the "truth" of the way the upgrade choices are balanced. Sidenote: I am now interested if the link between reload delay and RoF is a deliberate design choice by the devs or an unintentional consequence of coding restraints. I do not know enough about computers or game design to have any intuition of the matter. It just sounds like a huge can of worms at face value given that animation cancelling and various reload/recharge features are present in this game. Rock & Stone!

I love how you started having Team Fortress 2 music playing when talking about Special Powder. Given that all I've had to do to explain it to people who don't know what it is is say "You know the Force-a-Nature from TF2?" and people instantly get what it does, that's very fitting.

i love this breakdown series. hope more to come

23:16 scout’s voice lines go really well with the doom ost

Thanks Man, this gives me new view on the Doomstick

absolutely demolished those commenters Lol

Every day is a good day to hear classic doom music and watch DRG weapons breakdown videos

Thankyou I had no idea that double trigger was just better than quick fire ejector so I’m going to change my build now

I love how you started playing Rocket Jump Waltz when you got to special powder. Awesome

If it weren't for the recent taser bolt fixes/buffs making the crossbow so much fun, this video would make me want to switch back to the broomstick. Also great music choices for every single section 👌

The more of your videos I watch, the more I'm baffled at how DRG is *this* pants-on-head about the way stats and functions work. I've been using Quickfire Ejector for so long only to learn it doesn't do as advertised because of funny hidden reload numbers. That being said, thank you so much for making videos like this that not only set the record straight, but also goes the extra mile in DEMONSTRATING that your word is true. And on a similar note, thank you for the update videos whenever a patch retroactively changes things you show in a previous video.

This is the best DRG channel on youtube. Love it. Rock and Stone!

Great video, never realised I was running such an inefficient build before and yes, I was using quick fire ejector and double barrel (it’s my only overclock for the boom stick so far)

Using the underhalls music (Doom 2 level you get the Super shotgun on) as the backdrop for this is amazing. Sub

I had already subbed mid video, but I subbed again for that BFG Division during the Jumbo Shells exposition xD

Didn't know the little one had a lot of things with the T2 mods. Thx for the info!

Damnit man, rocket jump waltz will always get to me after 2020 no matter the context

Honestly the best channel for this game, and to be honest at this point I simply like you too much not to watch any other content you decide to put out. Deep rock is a great game cause it manages to have fun gameplay even when you don't have the most practical loadouts, but I always had that itch to get to the needy greedy of things while being too lazy to do it myself.

19:32 I'm so happy you put Rocket Jump Waltz as a background music.

Your music choice is always spot on

It's videos like this that are singlehandedly swaying my desire on who I want to play. I've only just started about a week ago and been mainly Engineer, but the Big Damage that Scout is able to do is making me rethink what it is I wanna main. All the classes have something that seems cool to me, but getting to absolutely delete chunks of a Dreadnaught is pretty dang enticing

Dude, when Rocket Jump Waltz kicked in, I couldn't help but shiver and salute. Godspeed, you magnificent bastard..

theres a surprising number of hidden mechanics on these guns. these videos are both educational and interesting

Subbed for the rocket jump waltz. Great taste.

Loved the doom music in the montage at the end

Your use of Rocket Jump Waltz was excellent sir

I like playing games based off feel, and don't like getting into the nitty gritty details (I'll never use damage numbers display mod) so I very much appreciate videos like this

Thank you for breaking down the guns, I usually use engi and scout was my least favorite. But after watching this I am excited to play with scout. I hope you do all of the guns, I would love to see the rest of engi's guns as well as all the other classes.

absolutely love this videos, thanks a lot

Doom music very fitting for the double barrel shottie video! I highly approve.

Love your channel, hope to see more soon !

The doom soundtrack in the background is such a nice detail

Weapon breakdowns on old weapons too? very nice

Lol I was a quick fire Stan for a long time. Thank you for showing me the light

Rocket Jump Waltz hits me in the feels every time.. Rest in piece Rick May

Most excellent! Looks like I'm gonna be carrying more broomsticks across all my builds!

You Sir are quickly becoming my favourite DRG content creator. Right after Karl and Usteppin.

Every vids a banger, R&S bro

Test before advising - golden words!

I love these videos.

I learned a good bit watching this. Thank you Lazy Maybe.

In my time of using special powder and hoverclock, I have learned that there is a situational downside to special powder, and that is forgetting you have it when you jump and try to shoot a mactera or spitballer above you, then crater yourself from two meters of the ground thanks to our handy velocity based fall damage.