Decor mechanics and Debris : Tutorial nuggets : Oxygen not included

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Tutorial nuggets.
A not brief enough tutorial of Decor and Debris. The revelation that I did not need to sweep up debris early on changed the game for me. It saved me so much time and saved me a bunch of O2. Putting the thumbnail together I did not plan for the green background and my normal green text. So for the first time thumbnail text in red, I don't like it. Figuring out the decor mechanics made me realize it's an all or nothing investment. A couple of pieces of decor are not going to cut it you need to bomb the whole base with it to get anything worthwhile. Well that and snazzy suits. Early on I spent hours trying to optimize my bedrooms, great hall and bathroom to be decor maximized. Recent I went back having forgetting why exactly I designed them that way and messed it all up. I spent an embarrassing amount of time coming to the conclusion that I got it mostly right the first time. Meh, still enjoyed it.

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  • @EzAzAbc
    @EzAzAbc2 жыл бұрын

    Man I learned so much about DayCore

  • @XconeArtist
    @XconeArtist4 жыл бұрын

    I learned something today :-) Did not know about the max -1 negative decor limit. Here I was worrying about heavy watt wires all over the place, but it's not that bad actually. Very good to know! Thanks

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Once a place is dirty, does not matter if you let it go even more :) Does not work so well in real life.

  • @Kenthrex
    @Kenthrex4 жыл бұрын

    i think there should be a trait along the lines of "industrialist" that will that tiny bonus from the "negative" decor of machinery

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Slobby dupe, cares less about negative decor. Prefers to eat BBQ with hot sauce. Never makes their bunk. Drops crumbs all over the dining hall :)

  • @0x0404
    @0x04044 жыл бұрын

    Gold sculptures(+52.5) are only beat by rarer space junk. Gold floor tiles(+22.5) too. You max out on 120 very quickly and you have the movement speed buff of metal tiles. It doesn't stop there. Use gold heavy watt conductive wire(-10) to heavily reduce the negative. You also want to use granite storage bins(-8) or heck even gold. Though I don't know what the decor of those are. The light speed bonus applies to anything that has a progress bar.

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    I once floored everywhere outside my base in gold made for some high speed movement. I always use Gold heavy conductive wire if I can I made a video on how good it was somewhere. I still think diamond is better to use as floors in the core living area, it has no run speed but you can stack the hell out of the decor. Moot point on my current map there is very little gold on it.

  • @0x0404

    @0x0404

    4 жыл бұрын

    The deal though with using gold flooring is you get the 22.5 from the floor and the 22.5 from the ceiling above as well. Which makes those by themselves almost as good as one gold sculpture. +97.5 decor in one slice(floor ceiling statue).

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@0x0404 If you have transparent tiles and 5 statues in range of every tile every middle rooms will have 10 statues from adjacent floor hitting every tiles +300 decor. That is excluding plants, paintings etc. Once it gets late game enough and you have hidden all the negative decor it's over kill, but mid game it's very powerful.

  • @rebdomine1
    @rebdomine14 жыл бұрын

    A simple way to deal with debris early on is to build your base from the top down, mining out a floor, then mine the next level, then build the floor on the first level. All the debris will fall through to the lowest level. I always do this for bodies of liquid so my dupes aren't constantly getting wet fishing for building materials or sloshing around in polluted water.

  • @MaxRicsi
    @MaxRicsi4 жыл бұрын

    0:49 "I could fill this place with heavy watt wire... you know what..." *cuts to bedrooms full with heavy watt wire* I'm dying

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    I find demonstrating the mechanic gets across the idea more thoroughly, editing out the boring bits makes it more palatable.

  • @MaxRicsi

    @MaxRicsi

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FrancisJohnYT And I completely agree with you. Thank you for making these! :)

  • @yuitry1
    @yuitry117 күн бұрын

    Now you can just put pixel packs everywhere in your main base.

  • @joakimtkarlsson
    @joakimtkarlsson4 жыл бұрын

    man, your content is so great. just love it. many thanks!

  • @MutantParsleY
    @MutantParsleY4 жыл бұрын

    Short, nice and precise. Keep up the good work!

  • @mytiliss682
    @mytiliss6824 жыл бұрын

    It's better to use at least one buddy bud in such places since their scent give - 5% stress and eliminate any other germs aswell (reason why first obtained are always planted near entrance). If you have an allergics you have to obtain cure first ofk.

  • @blacklight683
    @blacklight683 Жыл бұрын

    absolutely decored

  • @wyldcat9396
    @wyldcat93963 жыл бұрын

    People talking about all the ways to get decor, I've seen no-one mention carpteted tiles. Pretty much my entire core base is carpeted tiles. I run reed fiber off my toilet water

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    3 жыл бұрын

    The range of carpet tiles is really short, Diamond tiles are almost as good but have the benefit of allowing decor values from other areas to pass through. Combine that with how cheap and plentiful Diamonds are in game they are an easy choice.

  • @wyldcat9396

    @wyldcat9396

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FrancisJohnYT Good point, the range didn't occur to me. Also wasn't expecting a reply to a comment on a video that's from 2019 XD

  • @zeaol
    @zeaol4 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed the 2 new videos today, I still learn a lot about this game from you. I was hoping sometime in the future you could re-visit the idea of the fish farm only feeding one fish. Especially since we can now use the pacu fillets to cook and combine with bbq to make surf + turf food! Keep up the great work.

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    New fish farm design added to the list.

  • @RichardTruth123
    @RichardTruth1234 жыл бұрын

    This was quite interesting. I'm definitely going to ignore decor in my early and early mid game in future. Also not gana do alota sweeping till way later than I do currently

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    It will save you so much time and algae and give you time to sort of all your infrastructure.

  • @RichardTruth123

    @RichardTruth123

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FrancisJohnYT I started a new play through last night using what learnt from this video and one on priorities. It made my first 40 cycles way more productive.

  • @12463trf
    @12463trf4 жыл бұрын

    You can decor bomb early on and get a solid +12 morale constantly. Soon as I get to diamond, every dupe starts to get capped. If you bomb the beds,showers,great Hall,rec area, washrooms, even the front line diggers don't care about their surroundings on the Job, since they relax in luxury.

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the Snazzy suits, they are a huge buff.

  • @starwall8755
    @starwall87554 жыл бұрын

    In my experience, as far as late game decor is concerned, gold metal flooring does WONDERS for decor (and has the added benifit of increasing duplicant runspeed). If you have a gold volcano, this is a useful side effect of tapping it for power.

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    I tried the metal tile route and love the run speed bonus but for the bed, dining and bathroom area you can't beat transparent tiles and stacks of statues. You can cram so much decor into such a tiny area it's instant max.

  • @starwall8755

    @starwall8755

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FrancisJohnYT That's true, but if you want to make your steam-rooms actually have positive decor in spite of heavy watt wire and don't have the space for layers of statues, this is basically the only way to do that.

  • @James-oj6ck
    @James-oj6ck4 жыл бұрын

    Good and practical info

  • @staswasyl1912
    @staswasyl19122 жыл бұрын

    For the earlier part of the game it's a great idea to make all dupes wear snazzy suits. It will increase their decor average for themselves and everyone else, so you can easily get decent decor morale without even sweeping debris off the floor

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a bit expensive to get that much reed fibre early on, I usually get the snazzy suits after I have sorted out atmo suits.

  • @pronkel
    @pronkel4 жыл бұрын

    as always thank for the video :)

  • @hikaritsumi2123
    @hikaritsumi21234 жыл бұрын

    I just give them snazzy suit and slap some statue, They're still happy from all the recreation I gave them.

  • @DontBurnTheAmericanFlag
    @DontBurnTheAmericanFlag Жыл бұрын

    Sucks that there's an upper limit on decor, but no lower limit.

  • @Michaelxl14
    @Michaelxl144 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, could you go over the meal/food system in a manor like this and the priority videos? Maybe give advice on best/most efficient meals for different parts of the game and then how to farm for frostburgers?

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Food added to the list of nuggets to be done. Priorities video is the previous one in the play list, I released it and decor at the same time.

  • @juki_loves_wigfrid9220
    @juki_loves_wigfrid92204 жыл бұрын

    does that mean its good to make evrywhere lights where dupes work like at science machines and cooking stations?

  • @gauhelldragon

    @gauhelldragon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but being in light also gives you a work speed bonus on top of the decor bonus. So its good to add lights to all your work stations.

  • @kurgisempyrion6125

    @kurgisempyrion6125

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gauhelldragon Also +15% in toilets to "do" your business... not sure if that's a bug or oversight that will get patched out

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Still really only worthwhile where they improve the speed of something. Eating is not looking like something that it affects, testing is required.

  • @kurgisempyrion6125

    @kurgisempyrion6125

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FrancisJohnYT Does it work on treadmills? I'll try and have a look in my latest colony

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Treadmills are not affected, they have a flat 400 watts output that cannot be improved upon.

  • @megamiana-spaceforcecomman705
    @megamiana-spaceforcecomman705 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like heavy watt wire isnt low decor because its ugly. Rather its so extremely unsettling to the duplicants who know one wrong move and its 20kW potential will instantly fry them, of course it never happens but its still nerve wracking

  • @Smokeybear69420
    @Smokeybear694204 жыл бұрын

    I am curious, do you find the comfy beds are worth the +1 morale boost over the cots?

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    I built a micro mega base, could fit 48 dupes. Only moral was from rooms, BBQ and Decor. Worked out at 34 Moral. That is more than enough for my needs, though play styles will vary.

  • @bobbobby7563
    @bobbobby75634 жыл бұрын

    Wow a new color text for the thumbnail

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    If I left the text green it had a tendency to blend in on this one :) The new color is for this one alone.

  • @lucassykim
    @lucassykim4 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know which tile duplicants are positioned at when sleeping in comfty beds?

  • @raismin739

    @raismin739

    4 жыл бұрын

    if i remember correctly the second to the left

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'v never used them outside of debug mode so have no idea.

  • @moldycarrot9267

    @moldycarrot9267

    4 жыл бұрын

    Middle left, I've tested position tiles on everything in the game now.

  • @jaylopez6450
    @jaylopez6450 Жыл бұрын

    i'm sorry but this thumbnail aged so poorly now that we have Radiation "Feel the glow" sounds completely different too

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    Жыл бұрын

    Damm I had forgotten how bad my audio was back then. Ouch. That thumbnail is terrible, I'm still pretty bad at them, now I at least include the name of the game in the thumbnail usually.

  • @Valendr0s
    @Valendr0s4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's applied to eating. There's no yellow bar for eating. It does speed up recreation though.

  • @juki_loves_wigfrid9220

    @juki_loves_wigfrid9220

    4 жыл бұрын

    there is a yellow bar for eating

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    General consensus I'v seen is it does not affect eating, but some have said it does. This needs to be tested.

  • @karlc5719

    @karlc5719

    3 жыл бұрын

    It effects everything except eating, sleeping and grooming.

  • @MinecraftxFan1995
    @MinecraftxFan19954 жыл бұрын

    Is there any point in investing in decor beyond maximizing how much of your base is at +120?

  • @Meepersa

    @Meepersa

    3 жыл бұрын

    Going above that means you can consistently get the effects of average +120 decor even if your dupes go somewhere with less than 120 decor. In many of his series he "decor bombs" his main base to get around +1000 or more while the dupes are sleeping, meaning that he doesn't need +120 decor in the industrial areas his dupes will be working in.

  • @LTL_king
    @LTL_king4 жыл бұрын

    but if you can fit in a portrait canvas. You can fit in a landscape canvas. prntscr.com/ovqbw7 prntscr.com/ovqbc5

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    It all comes down to space and plant availability in the end.

  • @cerebralcow
    @cerebralcow4 жыл бұрын

    what about the fact that the tooltip says there's a max of 120 decor? why are you making your bedrooms so much higher than that?

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    That tool tip is very misleading. 120 decor is the max at which you will gain no benefit beyond. As in if you duplicant has an average decor exposure of 120+ for the day they will get +12 moral. Any more decor beyond that is a waste. However a duplicant can absorb over 1000 decor a second, this has been tested. So you expose them to 1000+ plus decor during sleep and dining and they will average 120 decor for the day even if they work in a horrible part of the map.

  • @ImNotPotus
    @ImNotPotus4 жыл бұрын

    Why not just make comfy bedrooms to cancel out decor.

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    If I replaced all four bunks in one of my bedrooms with four comfy beds they would take up all the floor space wall to wall. No room for statues.

  • @moldycarrot9267

    @moldycarrot9267

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FrancisJohnYT The decor system is so broken.

  • @halo007Mex
    @halo007Mex4 жыл бұрын

    Shame on me for compost every decorative plant after unlock Masterpiece paintings

  • @avenue4624
    @avenue46244 жыл бұрын

    So, basically decor doesn't matter... wow

  • @Meepersa

    @Meepersa

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not worth worrying about early in the game, but later on you can get a net +13 morale for investing into it after you have the right tools to make it easier.

  • @thespacecowboy420
    @thespacecowboy420 Жыл бұрын

    is this still true???

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow this is a blast from the past and yes it's all still true. I just realize I need to put all my dupes into Snazzy suits asap.

  • @MrLeyt1125
    @MrLeyt11254 жыл бұрын

    Not exactly. 2x3 paintings is better than molding + 2x2. Spam 2x2 paintings is better than spam 2x3. Metallic copper statues is twice better than marble sculptures, gold statues is superior than everything. Spam plants in diamond pots = spam 2x2 paintings. Gold floor is better than glass,+ 50 speed FTW

  • @FrancisJohnYT

    @FrancisJohnYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    For practical purposes I have never found a use for paintings, statues and plants just work better in all in game scenarios I have encountered. Though I have to imagine their is some base designs it would work in. As for Gold being better than Diamond/Glass tiles diamond does not let decor through. This allows Glass tiles to double or even quadruple decor exposure for floors with the right statue placement.

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