My friend this touched my heart... As an Indian I fully support your view!!!! The only question which comes to my mind . Why so much hatred in the world ????

Damn it means so much to hear you talk about decolonization as healing relationships between white and black people.

Wow, such a powerful talk and description of the decolonization concept. I am hearing a lot of intersectionality in the decolonization process

How profound and interdisciplinary!

Ok, finally some coherent definition of decolonization. The teachings ad technics that became standard in some fields were first developed for specific(colonial) purposes.

I'm inspired

It is only now that organisations like WHO are realising that and in their definition of health which is the practicality of medicine, include "social, physical and psychological well being and not merely the absence of a disease" This definition of health has existed for many years, since July 1946 to be precise. It's not a new thing as you seem to suggest. This definition is also well taught to health professionals. When an individual is suffering a heart attack because the blood vessels supplying their heart are blocked, I can assure the last thing on the mind of the Emergency doctor is any interest in what the patients ancestors are thinking. This is because all the evidence shows that the patient has a better chance of surviving the heart attack if they received the appropriate medications and interventions. The point is, medicine is completely aware and respectful of cultural health but medicine irrespective of where it is practiced is always guided by clear, reproducible, valid scientific evidence. In this instance, the esteemed professor makes some wild and inaccurate assumptions the minute he tried to talk about science and medicine. His overall message would have more potency if he double checked his facts

@soulfulsoundsntu9156

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, y'all like acting smart with Wikipedia knowledge 😂😂😂

@danielsantos-wh2op

Жыл бұрын

I think he is talking about the disconnect between the patients and the doctors.

@siphesihlesoyizwaphi6739

Жыл бұрын

It's true that that definition is old. But has it been practically enforced as long as it has existed? Practically, when a patient has a heart attack, do Dr's, after/during saving their life, enquire about the patients stresses, lifestyle and socioeconomic struggles? Or do they simply say "exercise more, eat healthier" then move on to the next patient? Dr's are very disconnected from their patients, particularly black/indigenous patients.

@stanman19680

6 ай бұрын

Nonsense as far as medicine is concerned be dead relatives this is non-falsifiable it is outside of the realm of science if a person comes to me and says they can pray their illness away that's crazy the song involves God and Faith that's not science best fantasy the idea that this is a way of treating a person medically is insane I hope this man gets the care he is asking for

Thank you, Mfundisi.

It was an excellent talk - and those aerial photos were worth a thousand words - but you didn't really touch much on the decolonisation of education in South Africa and there was more on the analogies of architecture and medicine. I know I'm disaggregating here (which you warned against) but I would have liked to know more about education per se and how you think this extends to other areas of the World (such as the UK, where I am located).

I'm homeschooling my kids and looking for the best way... They self educate mostly on whatever they are interested in but I have 2hrs that are mandatory that I would like to make most beneficial and not just boring

@reitumetsemotsapi9732

Жыл бұрын

is 2 hours enough?

Very true indeed. The education system that led to '76 uprising was Bantu Ed. When we went to school we did the FET & accredited by Malusi... Majority of white children however go to private schools which teach a different and more advanced curriculum. this is accredited by IEB. This is similar to the division on urban spatial planning among black and white areas. The reason why nothing has changed is because fat greedy cats who are politicians looting every single gov department through corruption. They have done nothing but maintain the status quo for majority of Black South Africans. Everything In this country needs to be changed from governance, education, legislation, architecture etc.

@brettcinder258

8 ай бұрын

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Sending love and light! Yes yes yes. I just wrote a paper about decolonizing the thinking of educators with the schools as the large percentage are either white people or have white aligned thought. So glad I found this video as our world must evolve if it is to heal on many fronts with people, environments, and systems. We have work to do people.

DOPE 🔥

I’m always inspired by lo tata♥️

@lamlastemela5343

Жыл бұрын

Ahviwe, this chap is VERY CONFUSED. Please, for God's sake, the sooner we see the back of him the better. I am a Professional Land Surveyor (University of Natal) and an MSc graduate in DEVELOPMENT PLANNING (University of Witwatersrand). For heavens sake, spatial planning is not a core discipline of architects. It is a core discipline for Town and Regional Planners. Its Apartheid Town and Regional planners who shaped the spatial framework we have today. Its not architects. Now a 'Professor' who cannot differentiate a PLANNER from an ARCHITECT is not worthy of being listened to by any sane person let alone inspire anyone.

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😍😍😍😍😍😍🙏🙏🙏🙏 much appreciated

Wow this is beautiful!

@lamlastemela5343

Жыл бұрын

Since you are impressed what about , First : Decolonising money so that we can then go back to battering and thieving. Second : Decolonise the Gun so that we can go back to killing each other with spears or whatever was there. Third : Decolonise toilet paper so that we can go back to using stones and leaves. Fourth : Decolonise the car/truck/train/aeroplane/etc so that we can go back to the cattle drawn slay. Fifth : Decolonize anaesthesia so that we can just pull out a sore tooth. Life would be really groovy

Fax

Architecture and spatial planning in most if not all societies in human history has taken the same/similar form in that the hub center was usually designated for important people and the peripherals were for lesser important people. Now I'm not legitimizing heirachy based on race but I disagree on the point that it is a exclusively colonial position.

It's NOT cultural health, it's spiritual health.

The doctors computers using local language makes sense. I'm totally for that. But is it an educational problem or a greedy business model? Get people dependent to keep selling. Challenge Bill Gates I'd say!

@sizamnce

Жыл бұрын

I heard the same Dr Lushaba framing what you said the following: 'A colonised education is a commodity once attained enables one to consume other commodities'. It was never from design meant for the betterment of society as a whole.

so science needs to go through a cleanse, it needs to decolonize...

We have to strive to educate our childrens to the highest standards and ways that the world have. Stop going backwards in time and try to educate cloud 9 magic. Get of you tube as sure as hell this is technology which is forward thinking not of your forefathers making

What a beautiful black mind! Superior Logic at play.

@pantheratigris561

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@lamlastemela5343

Жыл бұрын

Excuse me, Superior logic at play. This chap confuses Town & Regional Planning with Architecture and you have the nerve of praising "Superior logic." Do me a favour. Cage all whites in South Africa into Orania for just one year and then decolonise anything and everything whichever way you want as well as using whatever resources you have. I suggest you start with toilet paper, roll on, toothpaste, comb, shoe, nail cutter, gun, etc. Trust me, decolonised life in the rest of South Africa will be truly superb for blacks. and the whites in Orania will be free from the ridiculous bullshit being spewed by this confused chap.

@dacsus

Жыл бұрын

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He was making sense until he came to "sickness and ancestors" spirituality is seperate from scientific medicine. 😕🤦🏾‍♂️ Scientific medicine operates in the "Physical", spirituality operates in the "Metaphysical" realm, those are seperate. You could have a discussion on how they may relate to one another.

@thembanimgenu190

3 жыл бұрын

You mean the Eurocentric philosophy of science as it exist, unfortunately spirituality, medicine and health are intricately linked to the life we live in South Africa as black people. The minute we overhaul that philosophy which am sure you think we can't, the day you will see the light.

@paulelago9453

3 жыл бұрын

@@thembanimgenu190 Science and philosophy are seperate. The scientific methods that produce dialysis machines, xrays machines etc have no room for spirituality. Africans aren't the only spiritual ones. Traditional healing methods existsed because there wasn't anything better, Europeans had seperate healing methods as well before scientific discoveries.

@thembanimgenu190

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulelago9453 tyhinnni madoda naso ke isimanga, Thixxxo ibanabantu bakho bonke ngamaxesha onke, hayi ndincamile, everything has its own philosophy from which it develops, shaped and sharpened, you talk about X-ray machines, that's engineering such that an x-ray of today is totally different from the one of ten years, so you want tell me here as black South Africans we know nothing about engineering and if we do our knowledge would still be the same, seriously?

@paulelago9453

3 жыл бұрын

@@thembanimgenu190 Engineering is a Science. No I'm not saying we don't or can't have knowledge in science. I'm saying the idea of decolonizating medicine is misguided. Science is designed to be objective, anyone from any background can conduct a scientific experiment and get the same results. It's independent of religious or spiritual beliefs. You don't need spirituality to conduct a heart transplant. That is the nature of medicine. There is no room for spirituality in medicine. Ofcourse it's then different if you are talking about psychology, which is a more subjective field. That can be decolonized, and one can argue that euro centric methods of "therapy" might not be ideal for South Africans. I also agree on the idea of decolonizing architecture and spatial planning. But not Medicine/Science.

@thembanimgenu190

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulelago9453 😅😀😃😄 so in a nutshell because the philosophy of science has been Eurocentric it is only them that can be objective, it must be left as it is. I don't see how spirituality and illness are separate in healing, I don't. Surgery if you want to pick on it comes in as a last resort when all has failed, if medical practice were to reach to us in all aspects of our lives possible surgery wouldn't exist. So for me there's no field that is closed in fact philosophy as a concept I would argue encourage re-evaluation of all fields as they exist in all their aspects, with out philosophy everything would stand still, it is the philosophy of science that answered the prevention of diseases through immunisations. Infact if you check the definition of health you will realise there's a broad realisation that health is broader than absence of a disease. So the boundaries should be pushed even further and include all aspects of our lives including spirituality. Treatment of a person in totality not the physical symptoms is the way, and slowly we will be there.

Imagine a world where the decolonization of education means that Maths and Science are taught in our native languages, much like how they managed to translate the Bible-effortlessly turning divine confusion into accessible absurdity. Then perhaps, it wouldn’t seem as nonsensical as forcing doctors to speak isiXhosa, a language celebrated merely once a year on Heritage Day, when everyone suddenly remembers they own a culturally significant piece of cloth. Why not dream bigger? Let’s see the first medical degree offered in isiXhosa, alongside other vibrant languages of our people, rather than enduring these meaningless conversations that sputter into nothingness. If the Boers could elevate Afrikaans, why can’t we enrich our own languages in every field? Imagine practicing law, dissecting tax codes, or unraveling the mysteries of accounting-all in our mother tongues. No more vague, exploitative jargon. Just clear, culturally rich communication. Seriously, who do they think is going to champion this so-called decolonization of education when it’s already a challenge to make sense of their senseless ramblings? We want real choices, not just theoretical babble.

Body cure and cultural or spiritual cure, and cultural health and body health? What the fuck?

WHy not start by doing this interview in his local language?

@lorenzogaspari9355

Ай бұрын

Because there are 11 official languages in South Africa. Mostly everyone speaks English

@vazefiluca3298

Ай бұрын

@@lorenzogaspari9355 use one of the local languages and then put the subtitles in English.

This man speaking life

When Europeans decolonized Roman education, it lead to a Dark Age until they adapted most of it again during the Rennaisance

@volvolakaemma9209

2 жыл бұрын

Europeans decolonized roman education.. lol

@THEWORLDROCKSSS

Жыл бұрын

Yes it did lead to dark ages of until learned about a rich African king who made pilgrimage to Mecca with all its gold why do we not learn about Mali empire in school

Very powerful and insightful

@lamlastemela5343

Жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ Ratiba. What is powerful and insightful when someone so glaringly misleads people. Think about it : can you afford being Bill Gates or Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or Patrice Motsepe neighbour ?. The municipal rates that these people pay will leave you awed for the rest of your life. Best you stay wherever you are and leave this dreamer of a fake professor alone.

We go to our church leaders before we go to the doctor so that he can bless the doctor. Afterwards they will support the member to heal. It's not a doctors job. As in Christianity not all religious are the same. One day at work some of my black colleagues were arguing about their African beliefs. It will take years to understand all the differences. To change the education system I 100% for it. Kids should only go to school for basic education. Learn to read, speak and write in English because most information is written in English. To translate books in all languages in South Africa would be to costly. Secondly we need basic mathematics, add, subtract, multiply and divide. If you want to know more of something it's free for you to learn and to research. There is nothing better than work experience and children can learn proper life skills. The current school system makes people one track minded. We all heard our parents telling us to learn so that we can get a good job. How many parents told their children to educate themselves so that they can work for themselves? Not many. Lastly all people have the ability to learn but not everybody wiil have the same opportunities and so it will always be. Nobody is the same.

Never seen anyone get there hands cut off for failing to hand in their homework as if it was a rubber quota in 1900s Congo.

science decolonization: I don't have any idea about what I'm talking about but I want to change it

People like him are the reason South Africa is not improving. Always someone else's fault.

Can anybody impart to me a single piece of information here? This man goes on for how many minutes and says absolutely nothing he says absolutely nothing.

shit my mind is opened🥲

What bullshit...

I do not agree with him. Like the colonial constructions of current knowledge, our past as it appears to us is a colonial construction too. If we are to content with that, we are not actually decolonizing. This is quite apparent in my country India, that had its own identity reimagined and superimposed by the British. The result is a militant Hindutva ideology. To go beyond is not to look at the past but to the future. There is not way to go back.

@volvolakaemma9209

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Decolonization shouldn't be able to take the veil of coloniality and restore the past. It is to construct a new human

@xhasimaphukatha6230

2 жыл бұрын

@@volvolakaemma9209 based on what?

S. Africa can't even keep the lights on. And they fret over this?

@flux202

9 ай бұрын

A lot of underlying issues stem from education. The average public servant isn't all that well equipped for their job, and it's due to a shortage of well educated people. And the major issues with education is the lack of access. When the afrikaans had to catch up to the English, they opened higher education to everyone and made sure made sure that all of these people are atleast equipped at the basic level. So education is a major factor, especially how they were educated in their own language and in a way to connect to the ideas they are taught.

@asiphewakeni5842

7 ай бұрын

That's why the call for decolonized education

@indicatortimes7522

2 ай бұрын

That “they” speaks more volumes about you than the point you’re trying to make. The perfect example of neoliberal consensus in full effect.

@io9204

27 күн бұрын

Why do you think the lights (sometimes) aren't on?

These people are about 20 years late on this topic.

I can't believe this guy is professor. Hope is far for Africa if we follow everyone who thinks he knows

@paulelago9453

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 He should leave medicine to scientists.

@lamlastemela5343

Жыл бұрын

He looks like an affirmative action professor to me too. I just hope my children will never ever come across him. Another Dr Ndlozi of the EFF.

@paulelago9453

Жыл бұрын

@TEE4Thato Tdot colonisation has happened, and the legacy won’t be undone. You are on KZread, the only reason you have access to KZread and the internet is because of western colonialism. You can build a different culture from here but can never go back to the past

Soon as he said ancestors, turn off.

Why not start a school that teaches decolonized education? Why is it necessary that 'western' knowledge and their institutions be abolished for decolonialization to validate itself ? If 'decolonized' medicine works because an indigenous person has an alternative conceptual understanding of medical terms, then whats stopping you from putting it to work ?

Utter rubbish. The system in SA is poor people-centric. They are the ones who elect the government. It's their elected government job to provide them with water, sewerage systems, and schools. Not rich people. Black as I am, I would not want my child to learn decolonized education in the way you've put it. I want my child to be a worldly citizen, to be able to apply what they've learned, in medicine as in your example, anywhere in the world. That global mindset is the reason USA is a superpower today. There are a few examples of South Africans who've been able to take up space in the world. That's what I want for my child. Not an education that only works in SA and on blacks only.

@thebidendotwin2926

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair Elon Musk is a South African who has literally “taken up space” of the outer variety 😂🤣

@lamlastemela5343

Жыл бұрын

You really have brains and I looovvve your pragmatism. This lunatic of a fake Professor wants to take us back to the stone ages together with his confused notion of decolonising education. He does even know the deference between Town & Regional Planning and Architecture. He wrongly assigns Spatial planning to the architectural discipline without flinching. Another breed of black academic excellence that leaves much to be desired. His level of simplicity & stupidity reminds me of Dr Ndlozi of the EFF.