Deciphering the Secrets of Mesopotamian Divination | Dr. Irving Finkel

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  • @paulapridy6804
    @paulapridy680410 ай бұрын

    Man I just love being alive at a time when Irving Finkel is sharing with the world. WooHoo! And I'm in it! 😁

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    And we're glad we're on this journey together!

  • @QUICKSILVER369

    @QUICKSILVER369

    10 ай бұрын

    Totallyagreed!!

  • @lindseyrunyan1036

    @lindseyrunyan1036

    10 ай бұрын

    Yesssssss

  • @oliviabb73849

    @oliviabb73849

    10 ай бұрын

    Dr. Irving Finkel ❤❤

  • @jonasvaitiekunas2713

    @jonasvaitiekunas2713

    10 ай бұрын

    Thats pure gold!

  • @authormichellefranklin
    @authormichellefranklin10 ай бұрын

    Dr Finkle-- what a treat! Please have him back again!

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    We're working on it.

  • @Naiemaa
    @Naiemaa10 ай бұрын

    Irving’s mined must be downloaded digitally don’t ask me how but this magnificent brain that was shaped by decades of diligent and faithful work can not be lost.

  • @helennichols6531
    @helennichols653110 ай бұрын

    Dr Finkel deserves national formal recognition. Does he have an OBE or something similar?

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    NO! We think we need to figure out a way to start a campaign! We are SERIOUS about this!

  • @thelilster4286

    @thelilster4286

    Ай бұрын

    It's possible to nominate him for honours on Gov.uk, anyone can do it

  • @Northcountry1926
    @Northcountry192610 ай бұрын

    Dr. Finkel, and Archaeology Now Thank you for Today 🙏🏼💖🥂

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    How lovely. Thank YOU!

  • @jenniferrussellstudio
    @jenniferrussellstudio10 ай бұрын

    Ah! This information makes my imagination soar!!!! A huge part of it is Dr. Finkel's descriptions and enthusiasm! Thank you!

  • @nightowlpete8223
    @nightowlpete822310 ай бұрын

    Always a phenomenal learning experience with Dr. Finkel!

  • @gregd1218
    @gregd121810 ай бұрын

    in the last 2 weeks I've seen so many of Dr Finkel lectures, I'm starting to feel (falsely) comfortable regarding my knowledge about Mesopotamian civilization, which is not something I ever anticipated would happened to me. And I'm delighted. Please, don't stop! And then i realized I've actually watched that video somewhere else few times 😂

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    So glad you're exploring this civilization! It's a great ride!

  • @BB-et8pl
    @BB-et8pl10 ай бұрын

    So much love for Dr Finkel.

  • @rogeradam7391
    @rogeradam739110 ай бұрын

    Celebrating my birthday with Dr. Irving Finkle! 😊

  • @jillflores3076

    @jillflores3076

    10 ай бұрын

    happy birthday

  • @Northcountry1926

    @Northcountry1926

    10 ай бұрын

    LOL… My Birthday is today as well - Dr. Finkel, What a Gift to the World he is… Have a Wonderful Bday 🥂🎂🎁

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    Now THAT is a birthday! Congratulations!

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Northcountry1926 Oh my goodness! Thanks ever so much for your generous donation! And Happy Birthday!

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc10 ай бұрын

    Fantastic to see the Great Irving Finkel again.

  • @brandonmass3787
    @brandonmass378710 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Dr. Finkel, for your respect of ancient cultures.

  • @laurah1020
    @laurah102010 ай бұрын

    I could listen to Dr. Finkel all day long! Thank you for posting these lectures!!💖

  • @aariley2
    @aariley210 ай бұрын

    If you think about it, the environment and feed would affect the livers of all animals. If the liver was fattier a more severe winter, etc or swollen perhaps a rain was coming to destroy crops or make warfare difficult. If you are a certain age your body becomes a barometer! I read persimmon seeds. Those and wooly worms never let me down on predicting winter!

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    Hmmm...marketable??!

  • @vladtepes9614

    @vladtepes9614

    10 ай бұрын

    If there's one thing we human beings excel at, it's making connections that don't really exist and treating them as factual.

  • @disideratum
    @disideratum10 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dr Finkel for translating and sharing this with all of us not just as a scholar but also as a spirited storyteller. Esoteric arts in particular don't seem to be of much use in the academic community but the rest of the world is fascinated by it, myself included! I very much enjoyed his book "First Ghosts" and I hope he might also write books on other "paranormal" topics he's collected from the ancient tablets. Subjects like magic and divination, Cryptids and magical beings similar to Celtic Sidhe or Fae and Offworld Alien/UFO (or whatever they're calling it nowadays) would be exceptionally interesting. Cheers!

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    Let's start a request drive!

  • @oliviabb73849

    @oliviabb73849

    10 ай бұрын

    This comment is magic in itself ❤. Will have to check out his books you referenced. Huge fan of Dr. Irving Finkel ❤.

  • @NefariousKoel
    @NefariousKoel10 ай бұрын

    Living higher up often means less readily available running water & waterways. Perhaps there was a little kernel in that.

  • @disideratum

    @disideratum

    10 ай бұрын

    Also volcanoes....

  • @FestinaFirefly

    @FestinaFirefly

    10 ай бұрын

    One also builds on a hill for defensive reasons. This suggests that the region is dangerous. Living in that city will perforce be unpleasant.

  • @georgiusvasingtonium1943
    @georgiusvasingtonium194310 ай бұрын

    Ahh! Dr Irving Finkel, teaches by telling a story, as though one is in his house as a friend, listening to him relate his experiences. A treasure to behold.👑A King in the world of academics, of which there are few. Many could learn from this man how to impart knowledge, alas, unlikely in this age we live. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ to Archaeology Now

  • @ClearlyPixelated
    @ClearlyPixelated10 ай бұрын

    Yes!! Finkle Time!

  • @deewesthill1213
    @deewesthill121310 ай бұрын

    Divination by examining a hairball from a cow's stomach is described in "Huckleberry Finn".

  • @WorldWokeApeCult

    @WorldWokeApeCult

    10 ай бұрын

    Good call!

  • @clareryan3843
    @clareryan384310 ай бұрын

    😁 yay for today😂 Divination in the ole Mesopotamia days - exactly what I need to hear all about 🥰

  • @QUICKSILVER369
    @QUICKSILVER36910 ай бұрын

    Hi again from Michigan, a bit late! Living in a ancient city set on a height would prevent the gravitation flow of good water in and bad water out. This would cause all types of horrible issues, with human waste and disease etc., making living there to "not be good"! Maybe . . . .?? And, to think, I've just read scientific papers explaining that the memory of all of our ancestors is stored in our DNA/RNA! I also called the Greeks the "Liver Lookers"--now I know where that came from. Then there were diviners who would discern the answers by observing the pattern in the movement of loosed birds. Now we are much more civilised, reading tea leaves and palms!

  • @aresaurelian
    @aresaurelian10 ай бұрын

    This is always a fascinating meeting with the perspective of Dr. Irving Finkel and the ancient world, even leans into the unknown of pre-historic man. Well appreciated and much gratitude for these.

  • @beckydegraaf6976
    @beckydegraaf69765 ай бұрын

    Dr Finkel is the most magnificent story reader of all time!

  • @theresasmith8533
    @theresasmith853310 ай бұрын

    Bless you Sir........ Love your knowledge...wit and passion...thank you x ☓

  • @Jamie_Pritchard
    @Jamie_Pritchard3 ай бұрын

    Always enjoy a slice of Finkle of an evening. His enthusiasm is infectious 😊

  • @leftofright
    @leftofright8 ай бұрын

    The likes of Leonardo da Vinci would have listened intently. I am thrilled and humbled to be in the virtual presence of a truly great man. Thank you, Mr Finkel, for your incredible contributions, in bringing a lost civilization's lifestyle back to light. Absolutely thankful!

  • @sweetykitty4427
    @sweetykitty442710 ай бұрын

    I followed a twitter bot that was someone posting their omen translations every once in a while, and it was quite fun. Lots of stuff that couldn't happen also was noted, like if a baby was born with a tail and stuff it means the king will face adversity and fall

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    WOW!

  • @Bildgesmythe

    @Bildgesmythe

    10 ай бұрын

    Um, babies can be born with a tail. Google it.

  • @casteretpollux

    @casteretpollux

    10 ай бұрын

    Babies are often born with tails. The medicall staff usually whip them off straight away. Webbed feet are also common and hermaphrodite are born regularly.

  • @sweetykitty4427

    @sweetykitty4427

    10 ай бұрын

    Ok!

  • @sweetykitty4427

    @sweetykitty4427

    10 ай бұрын

    @@casteretpollux oh nooo, poor kings then 😭😭

  • @dmreturns6485
    @dmreturns648510 ай бұрын

    The study of cause and effect ... one of the uber-basics of our scientific understanding of the world may have started in ancient Mesopotamia.

  • @oak_meadow9533
    @oak_meadow95337 ай бұрын

    Even as late as 180 Ad, ceremonies in Rome still used augers to read the livers of sacrificial animals. AMAZING😊

  • @mcolville
    @mcolville10 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @cholulahotsauce6166

    @cholulahotsauce6166

    10 ай бұрын

    Matthew! I had no idea I'd see you here although I guess I ought not to be surprised! So exciting to find out you're also a Finkel Fan! Excited for the monster book!

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    So pleased to see you here. Thank you for your generosity. We're honored!

  • @marthavillegas6250
    @marthavillegas625010 ай бұрын

    So interesting! Thank you for this, I just love and respect Dr Finkel.

  • @oak_meadow9533
    @oak_meadow95337 ай бұрын

    It is heavenly delight to listen to what you have to say. It reminds me why I took 4 years of Latin in high school 😊😊😊. Also I know you tell these facts with perfect veracity. Thank you.

  • @lacey3880
    @lacey388010 ай бұрын

    Please sir Finkel, U have apprentices, I'd hate for ur craft, to b lost.. I learn every time I listen..x Can u teach the old lettering on line... I may finally get it..xx

  • @Hinzmana
    @Hinzmana10 ай бұрын

    Finkel! Finkel! Finkel!

  • @Erkynar
    @Erkynar10 ай бұрын

    Tank you kindly for a most interesting lecture. On another note, I am currently reading "The first ghosts" and it is absolutely fantastic as well. Great read and wonderfully informative.

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    Glad you are enjoying "The First Ghosts." Hope you have a chance to see the video on this channel that is a companion to the book!

  • @Erkynar

    @Erkynar

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ArchaeologyNow That made me get the book! 😊

  • @DavidHauka
    @DavidHauka10 ай бұрын

    Fascinating! Thanks you Dr. Finkle!

  • @urbannsquirrel
    @urbannsquirrel10 ай бұрын

    This guy is exactly how I pictured Dumbledore

  • @loobly
    @loobly10 ай бұрын

    I'm so happy to be starting my journey through the world of archaeology while Irving Finkel is still around and willing to share his knowledge, especially in such an accessible way. I hope I can be even a fraction as illustrious once I get my degree

  • @user-eh6th9wj5k
    @user-eh6th9wj5k9 ай бұрын

    Irving Finkle is an absolute treasure! Thank you!

  • @JennySimon206
    @JennySimon20610 ай бұрын

    Oh I love this guy

  • @kellikelli4413
    @kellikelli441310 ай бұрын

    Omens are warnings. There's a saying about predictions : It's easier to CREATE history than to predict it...

  • @sheenapearse766
    @sheenapearse7665 ай бұрын

    Marvellous Irving ! I have so much respect now for our Mesopotamian cultural ancestors

  • @northernhills863
    @northernhills8636 ай бұрын

    (22:38) Concerning the sheep v. goat issue, in the interpretation of mash-shu-gid-gid, it might be of interest that even today, the term for the meat of a sheep -- mutton -- may also be used as the term for the meat of a goat, depending on what part of the world one is in.

  • @blueharley2
    @blueharley23 ай бұрын

    It's amazing that knowledge has taken so long to evolve. Thank you for the talk, Dr. Finkel.

  • @nadiewn7
    @nadiewn710 ай бұрын

    I like Dr. Erving finkle.

  • @deewesthill1213
    @deewesthill121310 ай бұрын

    Tamil language scholars believe that an archaic form of Tamil was related to Sumerian. There are videos on that subject.

  • @carabuckley8791
    @carabuckley87916 ай бұрын

    Such a wonderful teacher 🤍🪽

  • @FreedomandRights4US
    @FreedomandRights4US10 ай бұрын

    Thanks a ton

  • @anastasialudwika
    @anastasialudwika15 күн бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤❤ Amazing video!

  • @MackerelCat
    @MackerelCat10 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much Dr Finkel. Fascinating stuff.

  • @ScorpionicWoman1313
    @ScorpionicWoman131310 ай бұрын

    Thank you ✨️

  • @johndutchman
    @johndutchman9 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Doctor !

  • @successmeditations110
    @successmeditations11010 ай бұрын

    Thank you mister Finkel. A delight as always!

  • @AtlantisStarseed8
    @AtlantisStarseed89 ай бұрын

    Finkel!! Adore this man!!

  • @ewadsworth
    @ewadsworth10 ай бұрын

    Love it!!! 🙏🏽🎉❤

  • @francisfischer7620
    @francisfischer76205 ай бұрын

    What a terrific topic!!! As always, great talk!!!

  • @leekestner1554
    @leekestner155410 ай бұрын

    A shepherd aquaintance of mine had a sheep give birth to triplets and a leg. Not an extra leg attached to lamb. Just rear leg. She posted it online and it went viral. It was even talked about on Coast to Coast. Did they have that in the Prodigies?

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    WOA!!! Made it on "Coast to Coast!"

  • @casteretpollux

    @casteretpollux

    10 ай бұрын

    Butchers dream.

  • @lazarus6125
    @lazarus612510 ай бұрын

    Love dr finkel

  • @user-lt5dx6rz1l
    @user-lt5dx6rz1l10 ай бұрын

    That stone was, once upon a time, our map to move into our home

  • @fokkenhotz
    @fokkenhotzАй бұрын

    thx Rockstar of Assyriology my hero

  • @fotolexdancetv
    @fotolexdancetv10 ай бұрын

    Dear Irvin Finkel. As always with bigger respect and thanks for all your research! 👏 It would be great appreciated if you could discover and talk interesting topics about Urartian culture and ancient scripts and cuneiform. Thank you! ❤️

  • @richardengelhardt582
    @richardengelhardt5829 ай бұрын

    The ancient Chinese also practiced extensively divination using sheep scapulae, turtle carapiced, and some other species. Besides indicating an global intellectual movement of the time that held sway across cultures (which itself is fascinating), there must have been some practical functional purpose or "reality" to these divination practices, given their widespread application over such a long period of time, across wide geographical space, and cross-cultural circumstances.

  • @richardengelhardt582

    @richardengelhardt582

    9 ай бұрын

    Perhaps it has to do with the structure of logical syntax, as Prof F suggests.

  • @Inkdipper
    @Inkdipper7 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dr. Finkel! 😀

  • @madgepickles
    @madgepickles2 ай бұрын

    I just completely fell in love with this man!

  • @MrCoreslash
    @MrCoreslash10 ай бұрын

    Wow just found out about this channel :) very nice indeed

  • @mrwideboy
    @mrwideboy7 ай бұрын

    I kove the way Irving communicates

  • @mcolville
    @mcolville10 ай бұрын

    "I never confuse a favorable sign with an unfavorable one." Pretty sure that's a G&S lyric! Patience? Iolanthe?

  • @PATTHECATMCD
    @PATTHECATMCD10 ай бұрын

    Fascinating. It is remarkable how the sheep appears to have been an "unclean" animal to the New Kingdom Egyptians, so I presume they had something different,

  • @plasmaburndeath
    @plasmaburndeath10 ай бұрын

    Yay.

  • @Za7a7aZ
    @Za7a7aZ9 ай бұрын

    This man must be a teasure for the British museum 😊

  • @kabuti2839
    @kabuti28398 ай бұрын

    The essence of the fact of divination, necromancy etc in history can be condensed down to 1 thing; 'equilibrium', as in the cause of such deformity etc, must be the result of imbalance, some where. Therefore, the prescription purports to correct an imbalace in nature/spirit

  • @eloisahowell2671
    @eloisahowell26719 ай бұрын

    subscribed

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    9 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU!!!

  • @Lincolnshire-Paranormal
    @Lincolnshire-Paranormal6 күн бұрын

    An excellent video with a crucial question at its heart. It seems to me that your argument that historic seers would never put their reputation on the line is diminished by the fact that the system lasted so long ... why on Earth would any system of divination be so long-lasting if it never provided an accurate answer ?

  • @williamgorden6390
    @williamgorden639010 ай бұрын

    Can someone please tell me if Dr. Finkle has written any books on the subjects of his lectures/teaching? I'm sure many viewers would love know! 👳‍♂️➡️🧠➡️🤯

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    YES - there are 5 titles for adults and 2 releases for children listed on Amazon! It makes shopping very easy!

  • @jennifersilves4195
    @jennifersilves419510 ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @ChelseyK1ng
    @ChelseyK1ng10 ай бұрын

    The way Dr. Finkel calmly talks about what steaming fresh sheep livers look like.........

  • @savannahshepherd2283
    @savannahshepherd22834 ай бұрын

    I only want to see Dr finkles vids does he have his own channel? I like divination and origins

  • @thinkbig7195
    @thinkbig719510 ай бұрын

    They were much clever like today Science.❤

  • @jsphfalcon
    @jsphfalcon3 ай бұрын

    Reminds me of the Phaistos disk except I think the Phaistos disk is for the intestine

  • @wicket23P
    @wicket23P10 ай бұрын

    I need to be part of an Irving Finkle fan club.

  • @larryc835
    @larryc83510 ай бұрын

    💯.

  • @GhostofJamesMadison
    @GhostofJamesMadison2 ай бұрын

    Clicked on this to go to sleep to and ended up staying for an extra hour totally emthralled lol

  • @jeremygreen3201
    @jeremygreen320110 ай бұрын

    I really like these, thank you, and let us all thank the good lord for Billy Graham.;,

  • @TheClairegrant
    @TheClairegrantАй бұрын

    He had me at hello.

  • @yvonnesmith6152
    @yvonnesmith61527 ай бұрын

    The Attenborough of ancient Middle Eastern history

  • @ronalddollarhite5216
    @ronalddollarhite52163 ай бұрын

    Does the great Irving Finkle have any insights to the use of mushrooms for divination?

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    3 ай бұрын

    Hah! Don't know but will be fascinating to find out.

  • @ronalddollarhite5216

    @ronalddollarhite5216

    2 ай бұрын

    Came across foundation statue of king shulgi with basket over head, gives appearance of mushroom, any connection?

  • @casteretpollux
    @casteretpollux10 ай бұрын

    A bit quiet, this one. On max volume.

  • @whisped8145
    @whisped81457 ай бұрын

    Dr Finkle may not get a knighthood, but I heard there's been another prestigious position open since that Merlin-guy left office.

  • @casteretpollux
    @casteretpollux10 ай бұрын

    I'm interested in early science, crafts, technical practice, cosmology. Not interested in superstition and religion. I've read about divination in Greece and Rome. Have read that almost all slaughtering of animals was deemed to be 'sacrifice'. And of course the meat was eaten. Our saying of grace before eating appears to be a continuation of this practice. Early scientists could predict some things e.g. eclipses, so no doubt pressure was put on and incentives given to attempt other (impossible) predictions . Very interesting that only the King could request thus.

  • @BILLY-px3hw
    @BILLY-px3hw9 ай бұрын

    It would be cool to make a sheep liver shaped magic 8-Ball, I wonder if it would improve the accuracy

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    9 ай бұрын

    Hah!

  • @JM222444
    @JM22244410 ай бұрын

    In science there is a word called "entropy." The concept deals with things that can not be described without the use of incalculable, large number, such as: the number of sand grains on the beach, bladed of grass in a field, or hairs on your head. The concept also claims predictability, similar to that of the Mesopotamian divination (however not remotely as well practiced or usable). They claim that if you let an enthropic "field" evolve with enough time you get solid & tangible information, like a sand castle that appears once in a malinia with enough crashing of the waves. After watching your video I no longer believe enthropic fields could possibly reveal much information to us people. I'm sitting here squinting at the grass outside my window, and thinking there must be something better to read!

  • @ArchaeologyNow

    @ArchaeologyNow

    10 ай бұрын

    GREAT!

  • @ancient_Iraqi_Mesopotamian
    @ancient_Iraqi_Mesopotamian10 ай бұрын

    ❤️🌹

  • @evelinharmannfan7191
    @evelinharmannfan719110 ай бұрын

    I find the ammount of data collection and the attempt to draw conclusions from co- occurants impressive. I presume a lot of it was just accidental. But some natural phenomenons are linked to other phenomenons: 👉 think of the El Nino effect, when one thing brings on another (droughts ☀ in some regions, floods ⛈🌧 and landslides in another, dead fish 🐟 in certain regions) 👉less rainfall can increase the percentage of minerals in drinking water (e.g. arsenic in some regions) and have a harmful affect on human and animal pregnancies 👉 a certain climatic condition , or animal pest might weaken your neighbours, but not yourself. For example, if you grow different forms of cattle, one 🐏 🐑☠ falling prey to a disease, the other 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐 is totally immune. 😁 Or if you can expect a good 🌾🌾🌾🌾harvest, but your neighbor 🌱 does not. That would be the perfect time to increase your power by war or by trade. And these "omens" could be connected to certain conditions that are favourable or adverse to certain undertakings. Like the pharao in the story of Joseph who asked for a dream interpreter. He stores harvest from the good years to feed his people through the bad years and increases his power over his hungry neighbours. They probably believed a lot of superstitious nonsense, but if they seriously observed, studied and documented nature for houndreds of years, they must have gotten some things right. We should not discard their believes offhand.

  • @zaenabs266
    @zaenabs2665 ай бұрын

    We Kurds still build houses on the hills and mountains like our Mesopotamian and Zakrosian ancestors

  • @judygreenwood4696
    @judygreenwood46968 ай бұрын

    "Never play cards with a man called Doc. Never eat at a place called Mom's. Never sleep with a woman whose troubles are worse than your own." ― Nelson Algren, A Walk on the Wild Side Prophecy goes on as long as humans exist.

  • @peterkavanagh64
    @peterkavanagh649 ай бұрын

    Sewerage not contained and springs spoiled

  • @fleischer236
    @fleischer23610 ай бұрын

    2nd!!

  • @ancient_Iraqi_Mesopotamian
    @ancient_Iraqi_Mesopotamian10 ай бұрын

    Civilizations of Mesopotamia(Iraq)❤️ Babylon, Sumer, Akkad, and Assyria❤️ Arabian Gulf❤️

  • @ketchups2777
    @ketchups27779 ай бұрын

    But should we?

  • @theobolt250
    @theobolt2509 ай бұрын

    And somebody has to come up with a clever trick to get Irving shave off that beard! I'm just bursting with curiousity how he would look like without! 😁