Been digging through videos on this topic and you are pretty much the only one to mention medium VS flow improver.. i read a few comments on the subject and how flow improver can effect your wet palette as well. Appreciate you explaining it fully!

I bought one of those Badger gadgets years ago for £10 I think it was. ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I'VE BOUGHT IN THE HOBBY 😊 Be careful to turn it off BEFORE you take the spinner out of the paint pot completely else it can get EVERYWHERE 😅😅😅 Now I use a make-up/nail varnish shaker so I can switch on and get on with another task. I still have the Badger device though ❤

Absolute treasure of a video, thank you! I was always on the fence about decanting into dropper bottles, but something always felt off about using flow improver.

Thanks for the video and advising the use of airbrush medium over airbrush flow improve or thinner and actually explaining why. 👍

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

my pleasure! thank you for watching.

3 for Nurgle! I'm a believer in the 'rule of three' so all is good 😊

Excellent and inspiring video, thank you. I believe paint in dropper bottles lasts a lot longer too!

Thanks Duff! Great advice!

Great stuff man, really good vid. Very informative.

This was featured on SpikeyBits today - BEST decanting method I've ever seen! You rock! SUBSCRIBED! :)

So glad I watched this.

I could have used this advice several years ago, but will definitely keep it in mind going forward. I have all of the Contrast paints now and would like to transfer them to dropper bottles.

@ImpendingDuff

4 жыл бұрын

Gene Jordan the beads are glass. You get 50 of them for $1.75 from creature caster and they’re pretty heavy. I’ve been using them for a year with no complaints

@GeneJordan

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff Thanks! I had commented before you mentioned it in the video, so I edited my comment.

if you already have flow improver and normal artists matt metium, i found you can use flow improver to get it out the bottle then add a little normal matt medium to the dropper before putting the nozzle in, a good shake and its good as new.

Just with that third fill, would it not have been good to put the cap back on the bottle and give it a proper shake? I think it may be more efficient than the stirrer at that point and you get the paint out of the cap lid also. Just asking as I note in a couple of these that people leave the paint in the pot lid and I think that may be a waste.

Pretty good. I personally love the pots and can't seem to find a replacement for those agitators.

Awesome video. Your voice is quite captivating and perfect for this kind of tutorial

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

well thank you! i really appreciate that.

great video buddy

I will do it with your method!!!

Oldie but earned a subbie!

I really appreciate you going through the process multiple times and actually showing the paint in use to alleviate any other potential concerns. This is THE go-to citadel decanting guide, and the one I'll be showing to anyone who asks about it.

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

wow, thats really kind of you! I appreciate you. i do want to stress, this is just my way. its not THE only way. this is what has worked great for me, and the items i use, have never failed because theyre meant to work together continually over time. other methods do work and can be used... i strongly feel my process is one of the more "proper" ways using medium. thank you again for watching.

WAIT?!?!?! I didn’t get an ImpendingDuff sticker at GenCon. I hope you have a few this year.

“I use 3 because I’m a Nurgle guy” = Instant sub

I have the same brand of airbrush medium. I worry that the milky white color of the medium will make my Citadel paints whiter. Is this an issue? Great video! Subscribed!

super great video, i got about 80 of them to do. i also make my airbrush thinner for paints would that work also

@ImpendingDuff

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton Jason Antes! I’ve never used airbrush thinner, but by principle, I’d be cautious to use them. They’re fine for imidiate use, but with those paints we all have laying around that we use once or twice a year, I’d worry that the thing properties (acrylic thinner is essentially windex) it would break down the bond between the actual medium and the pigments.

one question: may i use this method to decant GW technical blood for the blood god?

New to painting minis, so might be a dumb question.. but after going through this process, are you saying that you don't really need to "thin" the paint more by adding water? Looks like you are just taking advantage of the moisture already on your wet pallet. Thanks!

Just on the agitators. Do they impact the flow of paint in a dropper bottle by dropping into the nozzle when you squeeze out the paint?

I’m stoked you posted this sir!!! Helps me a ton!! (Dochooligans)

@ImpendingDuff

4 жыл бұрын

DOC! glad you liked it man

Very nice method. Gonna use it when I buy those couple paints I need from GW. I use mostly Vallejo and army painter. A question if you or anyone else: Do we need to use the medium on GWs contrast paints as well? Or do we need to do with it a bit lighter-less ?

@ImpendingDuff

Жыл бұрын

Contrast is fluid enough that you can just pour them right into a dropper with out any added medium

@christosvozikis881

Жыл бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff thanks for the information and the whole video man.

Is that golden stuff just a nice bulk sized bottle lahmian medium or whatever gw calls their medium? I ask as it has the white consistency of said medium, but most airbrush mediums ive used in the past were clear.

Thanks for this advice - I was seeing these vids on transferring for awhile and I was also boggled that everyone was using flow aid and not medium. Do you dry brush with these paints you have decanted? I had some bottles of army painter I used liquitex matt medium to improve the consistency on and love them buuuut I find a few colors harder to dry brush with now. Just curious on your experiencing since you used the airbrush medium. Thanks!

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

I have dry brushed with paints decanted with my method. No real issues to report on the method and decanted paints. Really appreciate you watching and I’m glad you found it helpful

ive seen my gf use something exactly like that paint mixer spiny thing for her coffee, might be able to find it at a kitchen store

I am about to do this myself. I was just going to use a couple drops of airbrush thinner in each pot. The thinner says it doesn't effect the properties of the paint. Do you think this will be fine? I've also got the paint mixing agitator stainless steel balls from the army painter and now Im afraid to use them lol.

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

well, first, you have to consider what thinner was intended for... thinning for use promptly. thinning to be used in an airbrush per application basis, so, in theory... no, it wont effect the properties of the paint for that few minutes youre working with it through an airbrush... but, consider that paint sits for months on end and in some cases, a year or more... so i would urge you not to use the thinner. as far as the "stainless" steel agitators... let me ask you this. youve spent how much on your paint collection? $100? $300? more? there are PLENTY of instances across all the fb groups of people who trusted "stainless" in their paints, and now have rusted out bearings that they have to replace their paint because of... you have literally ZERO instances of that with glass agitators... is your hard earned money worth that gamble? if the answer is yes, then by all means proceed with the "stainless" steel agitators... or, spend $1.75 for a 50 pack of snail balls from monument hobbies and know 100% your paints will not be getting destroyed. keep in mind, these people whos paint have been destroyed by "Stainless" agitators, have had the ultra fancy grade "stainless"... or so they thought according to who ever they bought them from. thanks a ton for watching, and i hope you have great success in your transferring!

@DayWalker745

3 жыл бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff Thank you for the advice.

Ive started my crusade against the gw bottle the other day, I'm half way through my collection so far...

Have you noticed the Goldeen thinner changes the sheen of the paint or is it still stay matte? It's what I've been told.

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

Not at all. It’s a matte finish, but it’s not ultra matte. Matches quite well with citadel if I do say so my self

Do you notice that the medium changes the sheen of the paint? Thanks in advance.

@ImpendingDuff

2 жыл бұрын

I use matte airbrush medium so it keeps the consistency pretty much the same finish wise. Thanks for watching

Very informative, idiot-proof (perfect for me 😆) with where to get the best equipment too (Yes I noticed those thick, stubby nozzles are clumsy AND have a number of those cracked tops with no effort on my part 😠😠😠). A huge Thanks from the UK 👍

Thanks for the great video. Just a question: How exactly does water impact the colours? I thinned some of them with straight water and I am a little afraid that I ruined them. 🙈

@ImpendingDuff

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! Water is acrylic paints solvent, so over time, water will break down the chemical bonds between binder, medium and pigments.

@Teeleer

Жыл бұрын

​@@ImpendingDuff is it possible that regular water is causing the breakdown, would the same thing happen with distilled water?

Would you still add the medium to decant contrast paints?

@ImpendingDuff

4 жыл бұрын

No, definitely not. Contrast paints are a completely different animal.

just went out n got myself Vallejos matte medium, got home and it dawned on me ur was airbrush medium, does it have to be airbrush medium?

@ImpendingDuff

Жыл бұрын

The Vallejo stuff you got should be fine

@danielbratton7043

Жыл бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff thanks for replying. was just wondering. seems to have the same properties for the most part

Could I use Lahmium medium instead of the airbrush medium?

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely. But that will get SUPERS expensive over the course of an entire paint collection

@D00M3R_MAVS

2 жыл бұрын

you can make your own lahmian medium with galleria matte medium and water. works the same way. I wonder if I could use this for thinning my paint to decant. should probably use distilled water to make the mix in order to add to paint pots though.

Why not flow improver? I bought flow improver specifically for this, and I think I should have bought airbrush thinners. I seen flow improver on another vid though and didn't realise I was buying the wrong thing. EDIT: watched the vid. I'll return the flow improver to amazon. I can get some of that stuff you're using from an art shop online in my country. really glad I seen this before I started transferring my paint with the flow improver. I make my own stuff that's like lahmian medium with 50:50 galleria matte medium to water. you think I could use this to decant paint?

@ImpendingDuff

2 жыл бұрын

glad you caught it in time! good luck with the process!

@D00M3R_MAVS

2 жыл бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff thanks.

Doesn't the ball clog the tip when you turn it upside down?

@ImpendingDuff

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve never had an issue with it in these bottles

I stumbled across this video while I was searching for ways to transfer Citadel paints to dropper bottles. The bottles you recommended are no longer available. Just curious if anyone found a good replacement.

@ImpendingDuff

Ай бұрын

Turbo dork has a really good deal on bottles right now

@clint8055

Ай бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff Thanks for the recommendation. I just placed an order.

@Mattson402

21 күн бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff I just looked, they have the blunt tips :/

On reviews you never see a good review on any metal mixing beads at all. Glass is a great idea. I went cheap, rocks dont rust either. That $20 badger mixer, I paid twice what cheaper ones cost but absolutely love that thing! Little work Ive saved tons of yrs old paint that would be garbage.

I didn't see in the comments thenl8nknypu mentioned in the video for the bottles and the mixer.

@ImpendingDuff

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Luffman Sorry, what?

@brianluffman7836

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff sorry fat finger typos.... was looking for link in comments that you mention in the video where you got the bottles and other supplies.

@ImpendingDuff

4 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh, the links are in the description for items used.

One question, do you recommend decanting metallic paints or not?

@ImpendingDuff

2 жыл бұрын

yeah absolutely. theres no major difference when using this method. its safe. just dont over do it with the medium

Do you do this with the technical paints too?

@ImpendingDuff

2 жыл бұрын

No, just standard paint line.

Would you still use matte medium to thin metallic or dry paints to transfer into dropper bottles?

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

You run the risk of loosing the metallic sheen with matte. Golden makes a semi gloss but I would test it first

@cassius553

3 жыл бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff How would you go about transferring/thinning say your silvers/golds to dropper bottles then? I really appreciate the reply btw :)

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

Me personally, I didn’t care for gw metallics enough to ever own more than 2 and I just kept them in the pots. I would still test them out in a medium before you do a whole pot

@cassius553

3 жыл бұрын

@@ImpendingDuff Yeah from what I've been reading the airbrush medium shouldn't affect the color or 'shine' of the metallic, so I'll test a small batch when it arrives. Unfortunately the Golden brand seems to be difficult to get from where I'm located so I use the Liquitex Airbrush Medium instead. I'll let you know how the results turn out after some cautious experimenting! Thank you so much for the input and taking the time to reply, def earned a sub from me and look forward to seeing your other content!

@ImpendingDuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@cassius553 please do let me know! I would appreciate it. Also, liquitex will be a great substitute. Thank you so much for watching and subscribing. I’m glad this helped you

Best tip ever for new peeps to the hobby.. "Water turns your paint to shit!"... use a thinner/medium

I just did a quick calculation and if you are using Contrast paint you gain an extra £1.00 worth of paint. Ok you have to add the cost of medium and the bottle but the cost saving and ease of use make it worth doing.

@D00M3R_MAVS

2 жыл бұрын

the medium would ruin the contrast paint though. don't put stuff into contrast.

That is actually a milk frothing tool ….sold as a paint mixer

J

Army painter Medium…. Says flow improver 😑 i dont know what to believe!!

I have a medical shaker, but I mix in flow improver into the Citadel paint and then decant it into the droppers; thins the paint enough.

@D00M3R_MAVS

2 жыл бұрын

how is the paint after the flow improver has been added, a year later? I keep hearing not to use it, but I have bought it already.

The stock funnels are too narrow--Look at all that wasted paint. Just cut the bottom off one of those funnels so it fits tightly around the top lip of the new bottle. Vortex-shake the GW paint pot with a couple of 4mm stainless balls and a few drops of the thinner of your choice. Pour, add a couple more drops thinner, shake, pour again. Very little waste that way. I've transferred over 300 GW paints this way. Cheap, Efficient, Clean.

You aren't 'gaining paint'. The paint in the citadel pot would be thicker and would thus need to be thinned more to use it. You're still losing a little usable paint, although the real gain is that in the dropper bottle it's way less likely to go bad after just a few months.

@ImpendingDuff

2 жыл бұрын

Is there more volume after you’ve done the process? Yes… more paint. Appreciate you watching. Thank you so much

Good vid. No, your not getting MORE paint. Lets be clear... you're just thinning it. There is a bit of paint remaining in the citadel pot, but given the integrity of the seal on those pots I guess it comes out even. I guess if you dont have that stick shaker thingie, one could get by with putting the lid back on and shaking instead.

@ImpendingDuff

4 жыл бұрын

KrogunDK thanks for watching the video. if you start out with 12ml and end up with 16-17ml... that’s more. And shaking works if you don’t want to get the mixer, but I found that shaking was leaving more paint behind because I couldn’t get the medium to evenly distribute. It being evenly distributed made the paint a consistency that would allow it to drain from the pot more completely and thus eating less, so I much prefer the added Benefit of using the mixer vs shaking for shaving me more material. There’s no reason you can’t shake them. Over the course of 82 pots, I just found I’d get another 1-2ml mixing vs shaking.

@thornoc1

4 жыл бұрын

Volume + Volume = ...MORE! YAY! You did it!

No no no