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I think these orchestrations are a bit heavyhanded, it was not really Brewaeys forte,better examples can be found with Colin Matthews for instance.

@mrtchaikovsky

5 ай бұрын

I don't find Matthews' very convincing either. Debussy's orchestral technique is difficult to imitate. Listen to his song "Le jet d'eau" in its original piano version and then compare it with Debussy's own orchestration, made over a decade later. There is an extraordinary subtlety and inventiveness that most orchestrators are missing.

@christophedevos3760

5 ай бұрын

@@mrtchaikovsky that is true. Maybe Caplet came the closest, I don't know.

@christophedevos3760

5 ай бұрын

@@mrtchaikovsky and Debussy was also more Chabrier and the like inspired for his orchestration, so instead of trying to copy an 'impressionistic' style, maybe we ought better to emulate the aforementioned composers Debussy himself took as an example.

@mrtchaikovsky

5 ай бұрын

@@christophedevos3760 Well, Caplet had the advantage of being Debussy's personal assistant and having Debussy supervise some of his arrangements.

@mrtchaikovsky

5 ай бұрын

@@christophedevos3760 I'm not sure, there's a certain noisiness and vulgarity in Chabrier that Debussy never had. The problem with most Debussy orchestrations is that they follow the original score too closely, whereas Debussy in his own arrangements essentially recomposes the entire texture.

this destroys what makes the originals so beautiful… this is an undergraduates orchestration exercises… thanks for posting, interesting nonetheless!

@keinepartituren001

5 ай бұрын

Still sounds better than most mediocre piano recordings.

@AndreyRubtsovRU

5 ай бұрын

​@@keinepartituren001you are fighting too hard lol :-)

@keinepartituren001

5 ай бұрын

@@AndreyRubtsovRU Я бы не стал спорить, просто выражаю своё мнение. Эти произведения я слушаю уже столько времени, что невозможно забыть потрясающие исполнения интерпретации, что делали Микеланджели, Гизекинг, Касадесюс, Любимов и другие… Но далеко не каждый пианист способен на такое впечатляющее воплощение. Поэтому я все же предпочитаю более красочную оркестровку вместо простой версии для фортепиано.

@KinkyLettuce

5 ай бұрын

well look it was performed and recorded by a real professional orchestra, that is a formidable effort also while this isnt as great as I prefer, I wouldnt say this is at the level of an undergrad exercise Have you checked out Matthew Colins' orchestration of all Debussy prelude? His rendition is absolutely phenomenal

@keinepartituren001

5 ай бұрын

@@KinkyLettuce no significant difference to me.

Sounds like a student exercise. It’s a rite of passage for composers in training.

Pictures at an exhibition wanna be :-)