Deb Dana & Dr. Stephen Porges | The Polyvagal Theory, Welcome vs. Warning, & Regulating the Self
Thomas Hübl is joined by seasoned author and clinician Deb Dana and the founder of the Polyvagal Theory (PVT) Dr. Stephen Porges for a lively discussion about the essence of PVT, the importance of human connection to the mind and body, and their methods of self-regulation for trauma survivors.
What You Will Discover:
✔️ The Polyvagal Theory is about human connection.
Dr. Stephen Porges goes deep into the Polyvagal Theory and its core essence, describing how human socialization can prevent modern stress-related disorders. He explains how modern society demands that people constantly exist in a threatened state, causing them to lose connection to their bodily cues and reducing their ability to regulate with others. “Social interaction isn’t just psychological behavior; it’s also neurophysiological.”
✔️ Stress and trauma cause dissociation.
Learning how to safely come back into our bodies after dissociation is a slow process, as shared by Deb Dana. Trauma survivors have acclimated to removing themselves from the present situation because of repeated painful events. Deb Dana teaches her clients to recognize their bodies’ ways of determining threat and safety.
✔️ Have a micro-moment of regulation.
How do people who have experienced traumatic and dangerous situations throughout their lives return to a state of self-regulation? Deb Dana helps clients navigate through their map of disconnection. The earlier we recognize the 'warning' signs of dysregulation, the less mental and physical energy we'll need in order to return to a more regulated baseline.
✔️ Honor your body’s ability to regulate itself.
Dr. Stephen Porges points out that our bodies have their own ways of signaling to us that there’s something wrong. It's important to pay attention to our bodies and acknowledge what they're trying to teach us.
✔️ Our patterns of protection are shaped throughout our lives.
Due to trauma and constant exposure to painful situations, we have developed patterns of protection that we immediately employ when we sense even the slightest dangers. Getting stuck in this constant cycle of shielding oneself inhibits one from enjoying life.
✔️ Recognize your body’s signs of a warning and a welcome.
Dr. Stephen Porges and Deb Dana share ideas about how to remain in a state of regulation and how to differentiate a 'warning' from a 'welcome' sign. People have been programmed to mobilize, complete tasks, and maximize productivity in the modern world - without considering their mental and physiological state. This constant inhibition of bodily cues disconnects us from our physical form.
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Deb Dana, LCSW is an author, clinician, and consultant specializing in using the lens of polyvagal theory to understand and resolve the impact of trauma and create ways of working that honor the role of the autonomic nervous system. She developed The Rhythm of Regulation Clinical Training Series, and lectures internationally on ways polyvagal theory informs work with trauma survivors. She partners with Sounds True through the audio program, Befriending Your Nervous System: Looking Through the Lens of Polyvagal Theory, and her forthcoming book, titled Anchored: How to Befriend Your Nervous System Using Polyvagal Theory.
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Dr. Stephen Porges is a distinguished university scientist at Indiana University, where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium. He is a Professor of Psychiatry at the University of North Carolina and Professor Emeritus at both the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Maryland. He is the originator of the Polyvagal Theory, a theory that emphasizes the importance of the physiological state in the expression of behavioral, mental, and health problems related to traumatic experiences.
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Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds
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I really appreciate the generosity to offer this conversation for free to interested viewers and in turn enable access to a wider public. This generous gesture makes it a powerful contribution to our Health Commons.
Apply these methods to Long Lyme & Long Covid sufferers. Especially those with C-PTSD and neurodiverse backgrounds.
Beautifully presented by Thomas.
@inglestherightway
21 күн бұрын
Exactly!
Thanks very much. This conversation touches on so many issues that I'm dealing with right now. I was particularly touched that it was put into words how often our current health system stirs up fears instead of providing an environment that enables healing and learning about me and my body.
I couldn't agree more with most insughtful Mr. Hubl at 52'12"!
So beautiful. Thank you so much as a someone who has experienced trauma and is healing from them, I am very moved by your messages. Heartfelt gratitude to the three of you.
Thankyou for sharing your conversation. It is very important that we can get back into our body awareness and be able to regulate ourselves in our relationships in every day experiences.
It becomes very hard to be able to say which of these three makes us feel more at a welcome and more in ventral. Feeling sooooooo blessed now for having watched this! Just wonderful, more and more, as one watches, by the minute!
Thanks so much, Thomas, for sharing this wonderfully regulated and regulating conversation. It gives me hope for my own continuing healing journey for my mostly dysregulated NS by learning to listen to my NS and looking for cues of safety. And I love the notion of "changing the world one NS at a time", thanks Dana and Steve :)
Thank you for offering this interview and information. I’m a trauma survivor and this really helped me understand why I react to things at times the way I do. Even after many years of therapy and 12 Step programs. Its does seem to be associated by what is going on in my life and environment. Super grateful to you. Def going to look up more from the trauma summit!! 👏🏼👏🏼✨✨✨🙏🏽💕💕
I absolutely loved this episode and I'm astounded by the results of the Safe and Sound Protocol. THANK YOU!
Wow! Yes. "Leading people back to their heritage." A most profound, poignant, novel point. Perhaps this is what so many are hungering for today?
Increíble la sincronicidad de estas personas. Una charla que hizo breve! Muchas gracias.
In awe by the passion that comes across through the art of conversation.
Fascinating!!! And makes so much more sense to me. Thank you for this gem. 🙏💚
Tks for that. Now i understand what the dog, which i raised myself as pup, held and touched everyday, is doing with me. She is a super coregulator, connects to my heart in attachment. The only dog out of 5 dogs which can. She also does not judge me. None of them do that. Stole one of my superexpensive dates today, which made me explode in rage. Thought i had put it far away on the table so they could not reach it.
splendid! thank you a lot!
Thank you for such an informative presentation
Thanks a enlightening presentation
Thank you soo much for this video! I love these two doctors and how they've changed the world! Dr. Purges revolutionezed actually the entire humanity and I am so happy for us! I've always inhabited my body due to some congenital birth defects that led for this reason, to not present the symptoms and have the future doctors prescribed for me almost 56 years ago. I am still alive and autonomous which is why I understand very well this interaction with our body and what is means. We really need to learn to listen to our bodies now that we put a name to this. I like to play with the word "vague " because of all this interaction, a "whole " relationship! Thank you gratefully!❤️
Excellent talk so enriching I’m njeveondering if the shaking hand I experience due to a shingles sequel will be overcome as I’m now aware of it being reaction to the shock of this persistent pain
Wonderful conversation! Thank you all!
For a layperson like me I would like to know more specifically “how” exactly they work with the patients what I hear is trust and safety but I would like a more concrete direction as to what their program says about how to come in tune with the patient or autistic kids how the steps of this “normalisation” or at-tune-ment” takes place. If you have a link please send it on
@michelletruth9995
3 ай бұрын
Here is a live therapy session with Dana which might give you an idea of how polyvagal therapy works. This session also uses a special camera so you can actually see the state of the client´s nervous system by the color of the cube. Hope that helps :) "PhysioCam in Action with Deb Dana, LCSW - Kirkland" kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJ-ZuMd-cpnSXZs.html
Thank you for your work!
Have an internalized sense of safety