Ignore the babble at the beginning, and enjoy me struggling! I've since gotten much better at these riffs, you're seeing really the first few hours of me learning this track. It's really hard!

@auto1nfanticid3

Жыл бұрын

I'm not a member though.

@replicated

Жыл бұрын

@@auto1nfanticid3 no one is no more

@MassMultiplayer

Жыл бұрын

delicious

@lilgimpo

Жыл бұрын

thank you for doing these dude, gets the inspiration going

@auto1nfanticid3

Жыл бұрын

Dean have you ever considered that the way you hold your pick might be holding you back? I'm sure you've heard of BERNTH, I learned his method of holding a pick (i used to hold it like you do) and it made a huge difference in terms of speed and control. just a thought, obviously your method works well enough for archspire but changing your grip might be just the thing you need to push your playing to the next level. I played for 15+ years using the same grip as you and was able to change it within the span of a week so I don't think you'd have much trouble shaking muscle memory even if you end up not liking it.

The fact that Muhammed wrote all this, and does vocals while playing it is mind blowing.

@dorsia6938

Жыл бұрын

And he's a mechanical engineer. Dude must be extremely hard working.

@longshanks5531

Жыл бұрын

I saw them live with Neuraxis at the Pound SF in the early 2000s… I got backstage and got to talk to him and drink a pabst blue ribbon with him, he’s a short guy too, really chill… I also saw Decapitated there, dew scented, and Vader

@user-uk9er5vw4c

Жыл бұрын

@@dorsia6938 everyone in tech death metal is a nerd

@dorsia6938

Жыл бұрын

@@user-uk9er5vw4c for sure but I still think it's pretty rare you get someone doing mech eng at a level enough to get employed by a major German auto manufacturer and that good at guitar/song writing/vocals to create one of the most iconic tech death albums ever. I'm doing electrical eng at the moment and I really struggle to make time for music, let alone write, record and release some of the best metal music in that period. I have no idea how he did it. Must just be a genius or something.

@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS

Жыл бұрын

He was pretty young when he wrote all of it too. Super crazy

Hearing these riffs slow and hearing all these little details and intricacies just shows how far ahead Necrophagist were and still are

@metal_ernest

Жыл бұрын

And it's only half of the guitar part! All the songs are composed for two guitars, each doing very different things...it's absolutely insane. I've got Muhammed's tab book and trying to follow the riffs is like trying to decipher an alien language. So it's amazing to me how memorable and hummable those cryptic riffs are, which I can't say for the vast majority of tech death. Archspire is one of the few that can do that, albeit not really in the Necrophagist style. Deadborn from Germany pretty much nailed the Necrophagist style (vocals and all) on their first couple of albums.

@roach5606

Жыл бұрын

​@@metal_ernestcheck out the band "Fuck you and Die" they've gotten the closest to the necrophagist sound imo

@flashpointatom

Жыл бұрын

@@metal_ernest +++ Its a symphony! only for earphones =)

@metal_ernest

Жыл бұрын

@@roach5606 Thanks! At first I listened to their first album and thought "huh??? not even close!", but then tried their second/final album and was like "ohhh, yep, there it is!" Haha. Just wish the vocalist wouldn't have used the annoying deathcore-ish screamo style sometimes. And they add a lot of other influences, more than Deadborn did, like some black metal riffing, comical keyboards / video game theme stuff, etc. I still feel like early Deadborn is the most similar to Necrophagist, but FYAD is pretty neat too. 🤘

@ProbablyNotAChicken

9 ай бұрын

@@metal_ernest i've been getting into Origin lately and they're very hit or miss, but when they hit they've got that hummable tech death going on where it's both "what the hell is going on" and "i know exactly how to head bang to this"

Learning Necrophagist you feel so good about learning a tricky measure/riff....and then it never happens again the rest of the song

@gs970

Жыл бұрын

So true lol

@ryanh1892

Жыл бұрын

"alright cool, I've got 0.03% of the song DOWN!"

I don't think Archspire has ever included a cover on an album, a Necrophagist cover would be amazing on the next album.

@user-uk9er5vw4c

Жыл бұрын

that would be sick!

@yungplague5534

Жыл бұрын

Incoming tech9 cover

@longshanks5531

Жыл бұрын

Be awesome

@TrealFOET

Жыл бұрын

THIS 🙏🏾

@planetdrinker5385

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Covers break the flow and cohesion of the album.

Necrophagist riffs sound so heavy hitting with just 50% speed, that puts the stuff in a completely different atmosphere.

I got to talk to Muhammad during the summer slaughter tour. Super nice dude. He told me "the new album will make Epitaph seem like kindergarten metal." I pray he will release it someday. I still believe!

@jamieperry3731

8 ай бұрын

​@@SunBroJohnny hopefully he at least uploads the album one day when the record deal is over.

@deadiwtd1858

8 ай бұрын

​@@jamieperry3731i hope so, knowing its finished, id like to heard those last few tracks

@jamieperry3731

8 ай бұрын

@@deadiwtd1858 I'd do anything to hear it. It seems from when someone ran into him a few years ago that his main trepidation regarding releasing the 3rd album is that he doesn't want to tour anymore or be in a band, so hopefully he may realise that fans would be beyond overjoyed with just the 3rd album uploaded online without the band reforming at all or doing any shows.

@deadiwtd1858

8 ай бұрын

@@jamieperry3731 if he doesent want to tour its fine, id honestly be Happy with just that

@TrealFOET

7 ай бұрын

I saw them live at summer slaughter tour too when they were headlining i wanna say in like 07-08.. im so glad i got to see them live just in case Muhammed never releases another album 🙏🏾

i can't imagine how hard it was for the guy who covered this song in clarinet! (both parts plus solos!)

@666aftershave

9 ай бұрын

Haha that dude rulz

@Derbearltd

2 ай бұрын

My friends hate when I pull up that song. Lol

Thanks Dean, I love this type video. It takes me back to the "Dean Attempts to learn" videos : ) It would be cool to see more, especially something that you came into cold.

@awguitarroom8033

Жыл бұрын

Dean attempts to learn : Polyphia

Muhammed Suiçmez is an amazing guitarist and writer. Thanks for the episode of DATL.

@ipwnIRLyah

Жыл бұрын

pretty sure Christian Münzner of obscura wrote most of this album

@peterphooko1441

Жыл бұрын

@@ipwnIRLyah Muënzner only wote around half the solo's on Epitaph if I remember well

@tinflesh

Жыл бұрын

@ipwnIRLyah Christian wrote about half the leads, some bass riffs and only first half of SIT riffs. Muhammed wrote all the riffs and songs plus the drum parts note by note confirmed by Hannes' recent interview

@zhiedeath

Жыл бұрын

​@@ipwnIRLyahnope Muhammed Suicmez wrote 2 album full and for the epitaph Munzner just only wrote half of the solo

@DG-qv8ge

8 ай бұрын

most? lmfao no@@ipwnIRLyah

Love Love Love Necrophagist. Story telling on guitar

I'm nowhere near the technical level you are so I am amazed by the things you do. I've never learned a whole song all the way through. I've been content to play riffs over and over and just make up my own songs and play them (so I guess technically, I know those whole songs LOL). Part of the reason I've never learned a whole song is that I'll get stuck on a part that seems impossible and let the frustration win. Seeing you similarly struggle but push through really motivates me. Thanks bud. Stay Tech.

@Ali_0h

Жыл бұрын

Try some death songs, fun to play and not too hard.

@casp2150

Жыл бұрын

This is how i started out too. Eventually you'll get to the point where you can play some easier songs all the way through

@Isador7

Жыл бұрын

Identifying the riffs/areas you struggle with for a specific song should show you the exact areas/techniques you need to learn or practice more on to improve! When the frustration hits, I always just take a break and come back to that one section the next day (even if it's a single measure) and go over it over, and over, and over again until it finally comes through! I've found often for stuff like that, usually a section may seem especially difficult because there's a technique that makes it easier you haven't learned and aren't using.

It was written and performed on 25.5 inch scale length guitars, you're correct

Its amazing how much that album have shaped tech death

@longshanks5531

Жыл бұрын

The first album probably more

@debotoxgod6878

Жыл бұрын

@@longshanks5531 epitaph is from the first album

@longshanks5531

Жыл бұрын

@@debotoxgod6878 no, the first album released in 1999 was called onset of putrefaction, the second album in 2004 was called Epitaph and there is a song on the album called Epitaph

@DeclanTrippier419

Жыл бұрын

@@longshanks5531 I think Epitaph had a much greater impact on modern technical death metal than Onset did. Still a great album but Epitaph really set the standard for modern neo-classical influenced tech death.

@patrickmurphy2443

11 ай бұрын

Its because epitah he had members playing the instruments onset he did everything himself which is truly more mindblowing

One of my all time favorites! I spent many hours practicing this song when I was younger, thanks for sharing your process.

This is such a great video. I love seeing your learning process.

I've been learning this one for about 2 weeks and I'm almost done! what a coincidence that you're learning it too. thanks for the content!

@umu5037

Жыл бұрын

Have you been learning the solo too?

@thebayconator97

Жыл бұрын

@@umu5037 I have! it's a very fun solo to play once you get the sweeps down

@umu5037

Жыл бұрын

@@thebayconator97 I see, I want to learn a Necrophagist song yet I'm intimidated by speed and sweeps, I'm not scared of dense patterns because I've been playing stuff like mathcore and math rock for a year and helped me to get a certain technique yet I feel I'm lacking of experience in tech death and I barely can play death metal. In the near future I want to start with Culinary Hyperversity because I really want to start playing Necrophagist but I barely have 2 years playing so I'm giving time while I improve

@thebayconator97

Жыл бұрын

@@umu5037 it's definitely intimidating at first lmao I've been playing for over 10 years and it still gives me trouble. I'd encourage you to dive right in! take a shot at culinary hyperversity and see where you're at, just start super slow. very often I recommend beginners to learn stuff from later Death like flesh and the power it holds or flattening of emotions because the speed is much more manageable. best of luck, have fun!

I'll double my gas money donations at shows if the band ever busts out a full song cover or two of Necrophagist. All the love!

So glad you started doing this again! It helps us a LOT!

I have been waiting for you to cover this one!!! you just made my day dean thank you!

I really enjoyed these videos. Always made me wanna push myself more.

I missed dean attempts to learn! Its how i found your channel when covid started and is how i found archspire :))

Yoooo. I really like the videos with you and Claire. But I also really like these. Please make more.

Nice to see you learn stuff you want to learn ♡♡

wow nice job! there aren't many necrophagist guitar covers on youtube for a reason...

this really slams down how practice makes perfect. videos like this are excellent

This makes me happy 😁

I love this, it shows no matter how excellent you are still gotta practice hard to get to where you want to be, good luck man

Always good to see you posting Dean 🤘🤘🤘

My favorite series!

This was such a fun watch. I love it when you do these videos! Seeing you attempt this reminds me why I have never tackled this song. 🤣

Covering Necro stuff is always the beautiful mixture of fun and frustration 😂😂

I just learned you play in Archspire. Sick! Love y’all’s work! Subbed.

Thanks Dean, loved it! I have the official tab book of the Epitaph album but never learned whole songs, only sections. Maybe I'll give this one a try!

I'm so excited to see you guys in Baltimore in 2 months since I missed you last year.

Love this type of content

I miss seeing these! Btw.. Hats off to how fast you process his riffs!

Whats up Dean! just discovered Archspire a few weeks ago. New favorite band!!! Love the content and really hoping to see you guys in ATL on 4/14!!!

Do their live reactions!! It would be nuts!! It always blows my mind how they play live so effortlessly

Would love to see you tackle something like Finite by Origin

@user-uk9er5vw4c

Жыл бұрын

hell yeah, laser sweeps are coming!

awesome to watch u grind thru, would love to see some tbdm!

Dean, Would love to see you guys in Minnesota this spring! Waiting to get a date in south Canada in April!

As a drummer the strugglebus is real

Freakin wonderful band and job by you Dean!I would enjoy it to see you try the most hysteric, complex, technical and interesting riffs by Converge and Dillinger Escape Plan!

Can't fucking wait to see you guys with entheos in CA! Will be my second time seeing archspire

Holy shit! This is how i learn songs too haha thanks for sharing. Now i don't feel insecure with the initial slopiness.

Every song in album is sick !! Love necrophagist. We want new album suicmez !!

Every few years or so I revisit Necrophagist, and holy fuck that shit is hard. The string skip alternate picked part at 8:40 is the kind of thing I can't pick with strict alternate picking, but have no issues with up-stroke on the low string.

very cool

Closest band/musician to necrophagist that’s still playing is David Davidson/Revocation. Legend.

Thanks Dean, this is such a fun cover. The composition and performance was topnotch on Epitaph. The music is sick, delicate and even mathematical at times! Anyways I categorize Archspire as one of the pillars of TDM beside the mighty Necrophagist!

love this so much man

This is so fucking good, Dean. Like, this is beautiful content as both a musician and someone who loves Necrophagist. My brain can't even visualize the finger positions of some of these chord structures. I'll stay back here with my "working on ...And Justice For All chops". 😅

Bout time you covered this

You’re a great player.

Would love to see Gorod's "Bekhten's Curse"

@chiquita_dave

Жыл бұрын

I second this, that would be so fun to see

I haven't wanted to hit you up for the student thing, but the beginning raises a good question. You said "I spent a morning," and "I spent an afternoon." While I know that there's not really a hard set practice time, what on average does a morning/afternoon of practice/learning look like for you? An hour? 4? thanks for the video Dean! I've missed this format!

@DeanLamb

2 жыл бұрын

A session is 2 hours max. Definitely depending on the topic, but I won’t push myself to cram more than 2 hours of learning in one session, otherwise I’ll get diminishing returns. These Epitaph learning sessions were probably 1.5 hrs each. The song is surprisingly simple, in terms of how many unique sections there are, I was surprised.

@CoreyAllgood

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeanLamb thanks bud! Content like this inspires me to practice improvements, so I really appreciate ot

@technicaldeathmetalhead

Жыл бұрын

@@DeanLamb Diminishing returns or "Diminished to B"? 🤔

@synhet84

Жыл бұрын

@@DeanLamb Surprisingly simple for Dean = Surprisingly hard for us mortals. lol

What a monster of a guitar track. Muhammed Suiçmez is out of this world

Dude this song has been a lifelong struggle. Sit down to it for a few days, take a few weeks off. Lather, rinse, and repeat. Can play it through, as long as I play it through in 20 different sections.

I am subbed....however I'm here for the Necro🙏

Oh Cananda!

impressive man. i was humming along for the 1000th time. you got it

Master this and in addition sing with it. Mind blown....

Necro is the GOAT

i've been trying to learn this song for 15 years... good luck dean!

@j.pabloquinche3283

Жыл бұрын

You must be disabled if you didnt at the first year lmao

@JeffreyEpsteinberg-hx8ds

2 ай бұрын

Lol what^ Maybe after 2 or 3 years of everyday practice for a newbie, but one year is insane

Hey Dean thanks for posting this, great idea on releasing formerly members only vids!! \m/ Have you ever learned Born by Nevermore? If not that would be a sick video!!

Papa Dean! Give Archspire a shot, they're quite good, you might be able to play some of their stuff!

WHOAAA

I'd love to see a follow up to this. Cos it's such an awesome song. You did great. You can tell this man loves dark souls game. Only plays the most challenging. It's insane to me that the singer not only does the vocals but plays that shit on guitar aswell. Not to mention he does half of the solos.

@666aftershave

9 ай бұрын

Fromsoftware shredding

Would love an episode like this with frantic disembowlment

Watching someone so good a guitar learning and seeing the struggles is encouraging. P.s. thoughts on epiphone mkh origins 7?

you learned in an hour what took me two days. fucking savage

This was one of the first songs I dedicated to learning to play and sing at the same time when I was 16!

2:05 when the click happened for every four beats i was like... theres no way a human does that to themselves

I wish I was confident enough to attempt to take lessons from Dean. I’ll stick to anonymous watching and taking notes..

Wish them and Spawn of Possession reunite to tour

"How do they play this live?" Exactly what everyone says about Archspire, lol.

it's takin gme 2 years to play this on my acoustic guitar, still not even close

I actually heard from a good source the new Necro album would drop when the new Tool album comes out. Catch y'all in 2031.

I've never really gotten into tech death. I only listen to Necrophagist and Archspire in this genre I think

@Creature1009

Жыл бұрын

Check out the faceless and the zenith passage and Soreption

@StillbjornOne

Жыл бұрын

LIke @Creature1009 said. The Faceless "Planetary Duality" is one of my favorite albums of all time.

Does that axe have gold sparkle? Awesome!

It’s bald bob ross teaching us that happy little accidents are a part of the process.

Howdy-ho 11/16 brother

Hellyes!!! Such a good song. Question- why don't you have a 6 string for stuff like this? Would give your hand a break and probably be easier to play just in context.

I miss necrophagist almost as much as i miss deans live streams...

You're brave man, I'm afraid to even look at the tabs

They made 2 albums and set the standard for technical death metal and dipped 😂

When you get the new guitar? I like that head stock

Love your vids! What software do you use?

I’m thinking of getting Guitar Pro mostly just for learning tabs. Are the files for this type of song eh hrm…. Easy to find?

Dude i got un-subbed by youtube. Thats weird. I like your channel you help other players get better which is cool. This is an awesome band. Necrophagist is crazy good at guitar. I can only play more simple riffs myself. Like more chug heavy riffs with bar and power chords. Which i think still can sound very cool. But this band is way above most peoples skill level. Very cool video. Im a visual learner also, i like to see people play with their hands and try to copy there hand movements. I dislike tabs for this reason.

I gotta ask, what is your signal chain? Amp, pedals, post? I love this tone!

Band suggestion for Dean attempts to learn, Martyr. Anything from Warp Zone or Feeding the Abscess.

Awesome video as always! Anybody knows what program Dean is using for the tabs? 😊

Would your band have any interest in playing a Necrophagist cover live? Or do any covers at all?

Advanced Corpse Aviator engage

Dean, do you like Nile? Would be SICK to see you try and learn one of their more technical tracks! Papyrus is fast and also only 2-3 minutes long :)

You should do a playthrough of Seven Crowns and the Oblivion Chain????

Will you ever do that one person teaching slot again? How would one approach it without being buried by other comments and story replies?

Do skin coffin by psycroptic!