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@shahg6934

11 ай бұрын

Although I agree with you regarding Tyranny of Mawia and Banu Umayya but I don't agree that Umar R.A. had bad intentions regarding Ahlulbayt A.S. Umar R.A. clearly said according Saheeh Hadeeth that these People Meaning Tulaqa ( Those who accepted Islam on Fatah Makkah ) having nothing to do with Caliphate even their sons . During the times Of Umar R.A. Ahlulbayt A.S. were safe in Madinah.

@shahg6934

11 ай бұрын

May Allah SWT Guide us And Unite us All under The Banner of Imam Mehdi A.S.

May Allah reward you

Thank you very much Thaqlain & Sheikh Mohammad Al-Hilli ⚘️🖤 Allah swt bless and protect you always اللهم صل على محمد وعلى آل محمد وعجل فرجهم

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

Duas 🤲

Assalamualaikum. I looked for sources in Musnad Ahmed volume 4 page 421 but couldn't find anything. Would appreciate if you can share the link of Musnad Ahmed sources quoted by Allam Sheikh Mohammed Hilli. Thanks

@naathnaath6377

11 ай бұрын

Fabrication AKhee...

@syedmaisamali5802

11 ай бұрын

I saw similar hadith on takreekh tabari.( which is written by on of top sunni scolar)

@syedhuzaifaali7683

11 ай бұрын

@@syedmaisamali5802 which chapter in Tareekh Tabari?

Jazzak'Allah

Jazzak Allah Khair. Very insightful. May Allah increase the rizq and Baraka of those who made this video possible.

A student asked I want to be famous without hard work, dedication and commitment, what should I do, the sage replied start criticizing and slandering noble and famous people and you will be immediately famous

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Guess we won't become famous then 😭

@rizwanrauf4940

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain what else you are doing

Hazrat Ali was a very trusted person to Umer RZz Ali Rz was his Cheif Justice. And two times when Umer was out of Madina he choose Ali to sit on Khilafat seat.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Please share references 🙂

جزاک اللٰہ Translation عامتہ الناس کی خواہش و ضرورت ہئے

The key moment is 5:25 when he says "Islamic History". Upon the death of the Prophet PBUH the religion of Islam was complete and Islamic history began. You don't have the right to change the religion of Islam because of historical events.

@abrahimbazzi3623

Жыл бұрын

The prophet (S.A.S) mourn imam Hussein (a.s) death 50 years before it happened, it’s an established sunnah to mourn the death of imam Hussein (a.s).

@abrahimbazzi3623

Жыл бұрын

You’re prophet told you about the Hussein’s martyrdom before it happened and mourned for him, it’s not just a historical event. There is also more than enough evidence to prove the wilayah of imam Ali, you let you’re arrogance blind you.

@abrahimbazzi3623

Жыл бұрын

You read the Quran, understand that the Quran talks about history and speaks about past prophets.

@abrahimbazzi3623

Жыл бұрын

Where do you get the idea that we change islam because of historical events and who are you to make the decision that everything after the prophets death isn’t important enough to be discussed. If that’s the case then why would the prophet appoint a successor??

@shareefkv27

Жыл бұрын

@@abrahimbazzi3623 it's not ur type of mourning. It's a natural sadness and love for his grandson. And prophet (s) prohibited anybody except wife to mourn on death more than three days . What r u doing in the name of holy month muharram. He encouraged to fast on muharram 10 as ashoora day in rememberence with Victory of Musa (a) over firaun. The Allah will forgive all sins of past 1 year with that one day fast. Now how will link this with your fabricated explanation on mourning on muharram 10.🤔 And prophet (s) prohibited buildings on graveyards. He even prayed to Allah to protect his grave being converted to tombs or place of worship. What r you doing in karbala. If u love our prophet and ahlubayt follow their teachings not ur whims desires or footsteps of shautan

The Sheikh’s volume in voice fluctuates so much that people with poor hearing miss half of what he is saying.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Sadly our centers are in dire need to upgrade the A/V systems.

@zmurrad4

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain our respected speakers also need to understand how to keep speaking at an even tone and not speak too close to microphone. It’s very jarring on the ears, especially damaging the sensitive hearing of small children (even babies)

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

We will convey your feedback to Sheikh al-Hilli 🙂

Very bad diction. The zakir suddenly becomes so quiet it is hard to hear at critical moments.

These people curse the ones most dear to the prophet instead of curse abu lahab, abu jahl and iblees

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

May Allah curse Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl and Iblees.

I have been intrested in the Shia faith for years and was on the verge of almost converting to Shiaism. Reading of And then I was guided and daily hours and hours videos of Irfan Abidi to Ammar Nakshwani to Talib Jauhari played a big role in me getting attracted towards the shia faith. As of now I am atheistic. I admire the shia scholars khateebs that their study and research is always perfect. Although they resort to exaggeration and sorry to say at times even falsehood their speeches are eloquent and to the point. Unlike the Sunnis most of their speakers are buffoons who dont lie though because of their piety. This video just shows how Omar irks the persians even now. After being an almost Shia for many a months.... Just as the urdu couplet goes hai uski tabiyyat me tashayyo bhi zara sa tafzeel-e-Ali hamne ussey bhi suni hai. I was a semi-shia when i decided to research history from both the sides. Those who know me know that very few people have a as good understanding of Persian history religion and politics as good as i do. All i would like to say that the religion of Mulla Baqir Majlisi is not the religion AbuDharr Ghaffari. The religion of Mulla Baqir Majlisi has harmed the religion of Islam beyond repair and since theres no evidence of any God theres no point in following crying upon what happened centuries ago.

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

It seems Imam Hussain was naive to deliberately take his family and sacrifice them to protect something that shouldn't exist in the first place. Neither AbuDharr should have upset the caliphs, ultimately resulting in his banishment. More than reading, sometimes we need someone to help us understand what we are reading (or listening). Else too much reading sometimes jumbles up our mind.

@shabbirkhan-sy5kk

Жыл бұрын

@@Thaqlain The Koofi's killed the Hussain ibn Ali and his family. And I am sure they are deep down their hearts happy about destroying Muhammads family and faith. I have got nothing tondo with Islam. I don't support the Arab conquest of Persia. But the Persians were in their response unmanly and cowards (as they have all throughout their history).I just want Indian Pakistani Bangaldeshi Indonesian Sunnis to understand that whatever Islam was supposed to be is a lost case.

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your opinions.

@thexonic

Жыл бұрын

​@@Thaqlainnaive? The Iman who had the knowledge of destiny was naive? Excuse me?

@mahdiali872

Жыл бұрын

@@thexonic it's a response to an atheist claim in which there is no God so no real reason for Imam Hussain to do what he did

@ shareefkv27 at 8:25 and 8:45 the prophet cursed the sahaba's (quoted from sunni books), how comes that's not allowed according to the majority of muslims. I don't know what and whom you are following, It's a pity and shame on all those who deserted the Ahl ul Bayt and followed the others

A simple question why the speaker opinion about hazrat omar (RA) is more valid then the western historian mentioned in the video why he is imposing his own interpretation of events on every body else

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Because books of hadith and history back the theory he presented?

@rizwanrauf4940

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain no he presented his own bias and he is super intelligent to understand the dynamics of 1400 years ago, I have an advice use this super intelligent person as he can understand dynamics 1400 years ago , so he will make iran a super power. Hazrat omar (RA) did it in ten years let's see you momin in how many years you make iran a super power let's see your competence

@rizwanrauf4940

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain I am sorry to say it was not convincing at all

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Does that put aside the blame that he made someone governor who killed companions, divided the Ummah and nominated Yazid as caliph?

@rizwanrauf4940

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain does he knew the future or is he an infallible imam

Hazrat Umar ibn khattab R.A had the title of Al Farooq, the one who distinguishes between right and wrong. These people are cursed to accuse Hazrat umar R.A. He is the second best sahaba, a confirmed jannati, he will be with our prophet saw on the day of judgement. Prophet has said that if there was any other prophet after him, it would be Omar r.a. Even iblees was scared of him. The most just ruler. Omar ibn Khattab is our pride. How can these people say things like this so casually? May Allah swt guide all of us to light.

@Thaqlain

10 ай бұрын

We are glad to have you with us again. This story should help you understand that he was not as perfect and great as some Sunni scholars tend to present him. Also, through numerous narrations from Sunni sources, it is well established that both Siddiq and Farooq are the titles of Imam Ali 🙂

@tamanababa5185

10 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain Yesss sirrr. You might see me here quite often in future. Because i don't know why, but listening to some of the shayateen content on your cannel makes me love my sahaba akram more and more. Hahahhaha even though your intention is totally opposite. And what to say about Ahle-bayat and Hazrat imaam Hussain r.a. He is already our favorite and he lives in our hearts. We are all hussainis. But we do not feel the need to slander some of the most pious, righteous and Muhammad Mustafa saw 's favourite people to prove that we can sacrifice even the last drop of our blood in imaam hussain's love and for his cause.

@Thaqlain

10 ай бұрын

1) Our intention is never to move you away from Sahaba. In fact, we love the righteous Sahaba more than Ahl al-Sunnah does. But the Prophet asked us to follow the Quran and his progeny. Not the Quran and Sahaba. 2) We don't believe in slandering. However, we do critique and analyse what caused rifts between the Ummah and the Ummah not achieving the goals intended. We are only critical of those who caused trouble for the Quran and the prophet's family.

@tamanababa5185

10 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain Trouble for the quraan? It is Hazrat umar ibn khattab r.a you are talking about. It is not some random scholar. He caused trouble to Quran and prophets progeny? What are sources of these nonsensical accusations. Your hearts are closed to these pious sahaba. Do you know what the prophet saw said about them? You will never enter paradise if you have anything in heart against them. Umar ibn khatab r.a gave his life to the holy prophets cause. He will be our prophets friend on the day of judgement. How do you have the audacity to say we are criticizing umar ibn khattab r.a. Who are you to criticize them? and who are these random scholars to criticize them? Do you know what was imam jafar sadiqs idea about hazrat abu bakr sidiq r. a. Go back to your original imaams idealogy. Stop creating fitnah and biddah. Stop dividing the ummah. You will be shocked on the day of judgement when you will see these pious sahaba on the side of hazrat Muhammad Mustafa saw along with hazrat imam hussain ra.

@Thaqlain

10 ай бұрын

Even though we weren't referring to Umar ibn Khattab alone, if you have decided that what you already know is the absolute truth, there is nothing we can help you with. 🙂 For us, the utmost priority is the Quran and the Prophet's progeny. That's the entire aim of this platform. Umar ibn Khattab had a key role in empowering Tulaqa, which led to civil wars and ultimately to the brutal killing of the Prophet's grandson. And while historians have given excuses for why he empowered Bani Sufyan, the fact of the matter is they gained power during his tenure. If you are eager to learn more about this, we suggest you watch "From Prophet to Yazid: What Went Wrong?" on Thaqlain App.

Why non Muslim attack the personality of prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

@rizwanrauf4940

11 ай бұрын

No one with answer

Ya Zahra ص🚪🧎🏻😭💡 is my everything…

DON'T FORGET FADAK!!! THE RIGHT OF SHEHZADI-E-KAUNAIN LADY FATIMA ZAHRA (S.A.) DON'T FORGET GHADEER!!! MAN KUNTO MAULA FA- HAAZA ALI-YUN MAULA!!! ALLAH HUMMA SWALI ALA MUHAMMADIN WA ALE MUHAMMAD!!!

@shabbirpatel2923

11 ай бұрын

Why Ali forget to give farak to his wife when he became Khalifa. Why Hassan Rz forget to give it to his family when he became Khalifa tul muslimeen. Is this was the duty of Abubaker to give fadak to Bibi Fatima. It was not his duty to give virasat of Nabi to his wives among them was his own daughter and Hazrat Umer daughter was too.

@user-jx9hr9jz5y

11 ай бұрын

This is not true . Need to check the source. Again misinterpretation wrong . Was it really needed for kahtoon e jannah.

@GH-gb6ly

11 ай бұрын

Ameer-ul-Momineen Imam Ali Ibne Abi Talib (a.s.) nor Imam Hassan (a.s.) FORGET, what was taken from them. Whether, it be FADAK!!! or GHADEER!!!

Prophet Muhammad (p B u h) said if a prophet were to come after me it would be Umar bin Kattab, destiny has taken its course in Imam Hassan n Iman Hussain cause

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

Then why did Umar rush to Saqifa and force people to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? And strangely, he never in his life presented this narration. At least he should have given this to Lady Zahra, who died being upset with him. But he did not. It seems he wasn't aware of this narration. None of the companions either.

@stranger7577

11 ай бұрын

​@@ThaqlainLA haola wala ku wata! The history being distorted, No one is sure if he's a 100% right because of the history being distorted, and yet you accuse HAZART UMER R.A! Astaghfirullah! Not a normal Sahabi! Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "O' Ibn Al-Khattab! By Him in Whose Hands my life is, whenever Satan sees you taking a way, he follows a way other than yours!" Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 78, Hadith 113 Brother 1400 years after what happened and history not taking one side, I don't understand how could you even have the guts to say or accuse HAZART UMER R.A! How can you be 100% sure of what happened 1400 years ago!! On top of that how can you be so sure that what you know is a 100% correct something that happened 1400 years ago. La haola wala ku wata. Brother please be easy and focus on our deen. Don't make a worry for yourself imagine if your accusition were wrong imagine JUST IMAGINE! La haola fear Allah. Let's say you are right, let's just say that you got the fluke right, Brother Allah won't question me that why didn't you make accusations on UMER! He won't ask us these questions brother so hold your tounges and beliefs!

حضرت حسین کی ازدواج / همسران ، حضرت چند همسر داشت ،بدین شرح: 1ـ لیلی دختر ابی مره بن عروه بن مسعود ثقفی، مادر حضرت علی اکبر، شهید کربلا، 2ـ شهر‌بانو(شاه زنان) دختر کسری یزدگرد سوم، پادشاه ایران، مادر امام سجاد(ع)، 3ـ رباب دختر امریء القیس بن عدی، مادر حضرت سکینه و عبدالله رضیع، 4ـ ام اسحاق دختر طلحه بن عبدالله، مادر فاطمه بنت الحسین. 5- قضاعه ، که از او فرزندی به نام جعفر داشت.(1) تبصرہ ۔ کیا ان زوجات کی اولاد ' اھل بیت ' نہیں ہیں ؟

If prophet please (pbuh) is our role model and success model and those companions who were near to him if there's character are not rectified then how can we claim that he is role model and success model if he could not transform those people near him then how can we claim that Islam can transform non-Muslim. Then whole claim of transforming people becomes baseless

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

The Quran says that the Prophet is not responsible if people do not change themselves. He is a role model but many decided not to change themselves. Hence the reason we have the Day of Judgement.

@rizwanrauf4940

Жыл бұрын

@@Thaqlain you didn't answer my question if prophet can not change people around him, his companions, his wifes then how is he role model as leader as husband then he according to you failed his mission if he cannot change people around then how can we believe that this message can change us after 1400 years if you belittle his companions then you belittle the prophet (pbuh) and that is exactly what you're doing

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

We just answered your question that the success of the Prophet is not by how much people changed. Prophet Nuh could not change his son and Prophet Lut could not change his wife. The success criteria of a Prophet is how good was he able to deliver and present his own character as a manifestation of Allah's command. And with this criteria our Prophet was way ahead than other Prophets. As for companions, no we don't belittle them. May our lives by sacrificed on the companions who stood by the Prophet and his family. Companions like Ammar, Salman, Abu Dhar, Abu Dujana, Uthman ibn Madhun, Hanzala, Bilal, Malik ibn Nuwayra and many others.

@rizwanrauf4940

Жыл бұрын

@@Thaqlain you are exactly belittling the companions that's what you do to be little the heroes of Islam and do more harm to prophet (pbuh) and Islam, when you destroy the hero's of a nation it means you destroy their role models, when you damage role model you promote hate, when you promote hate you damage the sanctity of religion when you damage sanctity a sincere youth becomes averse to religion when he becomes averse to religion he becomes secular. Thats why we see protest against hijab in Iran , so that is what your philosophy will lead you.

@rizwanrauf4940

Жыл бұрын

@@Thaqlain and regarding success criteria our prophet (pbuh) is unique as he is successful in this world and the next he not only delivered the message he produced best people that ever were and will be produced by any human beings his family his wives his friends his companions his that is what a role model is he is role model for ancient as well as modern standards

Labbaik ya Umer 💚 If there would have been any prophet after Muhammad , it would have been Umar !

@imranraza8308

11 ай бұрын

🤣

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Narrated by none other than Uqba ibn Amir. A well known enemy of Prophet's Ahlulbayt and a sympathizer of the Ummayads. What else would you expect from him for the services Umar gave to Ummayads.

@kano5

11 ай бұрын

What about Abu Bakr then?😂 this hadith does not make even sense. What Umar is known for is that shaytan would look away from him (guessing that Umar was even ahead of shaytan)😂

@omarhashmi2390

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlainmay Allah deal with u for slandering Omar RA

@AbdullahAli-ly1yq

11 ай бұрын

Ameen

Long live Umar allah has mentioned about hazrat ummar dear brothers and sisters whosoever curse sahaba or any of the companion of prophet,and Prophet Saw has also praised about Hazrat Umar so we don’t need any clearification from these people they just create their own version of Islam Proud Sunni ❤

@omarhashmi2390

11 ай бұрын

Ameen

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

There is no slander or cursing in this video. All it covers is how Ummayads, even though cursed by the Prophet, gained power during the reign of Umar ibn Khattab.

If I remove a stone from the road and the next day an accident happens and some people say " if that stone would be there this accident wouldn't be happen because the car driver may slow down his car because of stone , now tell me is it my mistake definitely not because my motive was not wrong similarly hazrat Umar,s motive was not wrong so we can't blame him for what happens after him hope you guys understand what I want to say.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Except he put a stone on the road, knew that this stone can cause accident and it eventually did happen. Not just any accident but a great calamity.

@mortezahosseini1229

11 ай бұрын

Umarism vs Islam???

By this logic, the zarf also will be on Hasaan (A.s.). Why he accepted the Treaty of Muawiya? And Ali, Mohammad, etc (PBUT)

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Who brought the accursed Ummayads into power on the first day? Holy Prophet? Imam Ali? Imam Hassan? Even the treaty was to stop war. He never accepted him as a legitimate ruler.

@mohammadsufiyaan5330

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain Let me add one more, who spared Ummayads on the conquest of Mecca?

@mohammadsufiyaan5330

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain And the answer to your question is 6 Ashra-e-Mubashshara including Imam Ali decided the the first ummaya ruler.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Sparing Ummayads and giving them power are two different things. Your servant kept wronging you, you forgave him. That doesn't mean you make him the head of one of your key department even though you have been warned to stay vigilant of him. As for your second comment, Imam Ali had no involvement in the appointment of governors by Umar or Uthman (please share proves if the situation is otherwise). If anyone else was involved in the appointment of Ummayads to power they should be held liable too.

May Allahs wrath fall upon those,who say anything against Hazrat Umar

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

May Allah's wrath upon those who went against the teachings of the Prophet.

@omarhashmi2390

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlainu ppl are cursed

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Says the one who makes the accursed as their leaders.

Iblees used to ran away when he sees Umar (r). Now after his death iblees taking his sort of revenge through his slaves

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

Iblees used to run away but the followers of Iblees made Umar run away in Uhud. What kind of sorcery is this?

@shareefkv27

Жыл бұрын

@@Thaqlain yes some sahabas ran away. Allah swt forgiven them and said in Quran. Who r u to blame then. And there is no where saying umar (r) ran away

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

Then stop fabricating narrations in the name of our Prophet. As for Allah forgiving them, here is a video to help you learn more: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6aZz9pmpam7eKQ.html

what is maatam...the Prophet saws never asked to do that..

Hmm. So this is how mix truth and falsehood to make your point. When you say Non-Shia sources that doesn't mean the hadith is sahih or hasan. Did you bother to check if the hadith you are quoting fron non-shia sources are authentic based on non-shia muhaddiseen ?

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

The onus is on the other side to proof that the collective picture provided is fabricated.

@MuhammadMuhyideen

Жыл бұрын

@@Thaqlain if you are going to preach, to people with no knowledge, its you that answers to God. is this the argument youre going to make on the day of judgement? smh what is this a western court house?

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

We presented our point with knowledge and proof. If someone alleges that we are mixing truth with falsehood, they are the ones to provide proves. This is the Sunnah of the Quran 🙂

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your suggestion. We will definitely keep it in consideration for the future reference.

Where in the Quran does God mention the 12 Imams and their “special powers”?

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

How is this related to this video?

@thexonic

Жыл бұрын

Sura Ahzab verse 33 اِنَّمَا یُرِیۡدُ اللّٰہُ لِیُذۡہِبَ عَنۡکُمُ الرِّجۡسَ اَہۡلَ الۡبَیۡتِ وَیُطَہِّرَکُمۡ تَطۡہِیۡرًا ﴿ۚ (Quran 33:33)

Umar alahis salato wasalam ❤

Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W ❤ Hazrat Abu Bakr R.A ❤ Hazrat Umar Faruq R.A ❤ Hazrat Usman Ghani R.A ❤ Hazrat Ali Karmullahu waj ahu R.A ❤ May ALLAH open eyes of my Shia brothers and sisters 🤲🏻

@user-xq6xu3fo8c

11 ай бұрын

Uthman is the reason while fitna started bro Umar , Ali and Abu bakr indeed did the best they could in the circumstances Nobody is perfect

@S7X007

11 ай бұрын

@@user-xq6xu3fo8c bro we cannot judge any sahaba R.a. They all were great. We were not there back then. So we don’t know.

@user-xq6xu3fo8c

11 ай бұрын

@@S7X007 if we cannot judge Sahaba then we cannot criticize kuffars or ibn saba or killers of uthman either

@S7X007

11 ай бұрын

@@user-xq6xu3fo8cbro I cannot go deep in this matter because the more deep you goes the more sinful you become if have a question or something against sahabas r.a. They were great people not like you and me. So I am obeying my god Allah and my prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

@S7X007

11 ай бұрын

@@user-xq6xu3fo8c you can live with your Shia thought foerever.

I named My new constructed Toilet as Yazeed ibnay mawviya

@user-jx9hr9jz5y

11 ай бұрын

What destroys the ruler Maviya bin Abusufiyan RA. Hassan bin Ali and Hussein bin Ali R. A both agreed to transfer the power . If you name it what ever you want , it will not harm him any way

@ABBASAli-ji6dh

11 ай бұрын

Go to psychiatrist ..

All this happened in the presence of Haz Ali RA,and he kept his silence. This doesn't make sense, even to our Shia Brothers,but in thier hatred,they become Deaf Dumb Blind.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Imam Ali never involved himself in politics unless Abu Bakr or Umar requested for his advice.

So he was cursing them behind their back (which is haram) but let them live at the conquest of Mecca, inter-married with them, gave them ulfa money from the Muslim treasury to soften their hearts, and full Muslim rights. I don't blame you. Seems like the "strongest narrations" are usually the most contradictory.

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

He did it all for them yet he knew that they will stab in the back of this religion and corrupt his Sunnah the moment they will have access to power. The La'nah by the Prophet shows the extent of thanklessness they practiced in the future.

@rcmysm9123

Жыл бұрын

Well, it's your books narrations. Abu Huraira narrated that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "On the Day of Resurrection a group of companions will come to me, but will be driven away from the Lake-Fount, and I will say, 'O Lord (those are) my companions!' It will be said, 'You have no knowledge as to what they innovated after you left; they turned apostate as renegades (reverted from Islam). وَقَالَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ شَبِيبِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ الْحَبَطِيُّ حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، عَنْ يُونُسَ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيَّبِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّهُ كَانَ يُحَدِّثُ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ يَرِدُ عَلَىَّ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ رَهْطٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِي فَيُحَلَّئُونَ عَنِ الْحَوْضِ فَأَقُولُ يَا رَبِّ أَصْحَابِي‏.‏ فَيَقُولُ إِنَّكَ لاَ عِلْمَ لَكَ بِمَا أَحْدَثُوا بَعْدَكَ، إِنَّهُمُ ارْتَدُّوا عَلَى أَدْبَارِهِمُ الْقَهْقَرَى ‏"‏‏.‏ Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 6585 In-book reference : Book 81, Hadith 173 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 585 (deprecated numbering scheme)

@rcmysm9123

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@@zedispahany7317 Calling things false because you refuse to believe is not a logical stance.

@rcmysm9123

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@@zedispahany7317 Allah swt is the Most Merciful and He curses people throughout the Quran

@mohamedc8908

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@@zedispahany7317 Are you sure about that ? Well according to Sahih Muslim you are completely wrong. According to sunni, Rassul Allah cursed orphan. Anas b. Malik reported that there was an orphan girl with Umm Sulaim (who was the mother of Anas). Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw that orphan girl and said: O, it is you; you have grown young. May you not advance in years! That slave-girl returned to Umm Sulaim weeping. Umm Sulaim said: O daughter, what is the matter with you? She said: Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) has invoked curse upon me that I should not grow in age and thus I would never grow in age, or she said, in my (length) of life. Umm Sulaim went out wrapping her head-dress hurriedly until she met Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). He said to her: Umm Sulaim, what is the matter with you? She said: Allah's Apostle, you invoked curse upon my orphan girl. He said: Umm Sulaim, what is that? She said: She (the orphan girl) states you have cursed her saying that she might not grow in age or grow in life. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) smiled and then said: Umm Sulaim, don't you know that I have made this term with my Lord. And the term with my Lord is that I said to Him: 1 am a human being and I am pleased just as a human being is pleased and I lose temper just as a human being loses temper, so for any person from amongst my Ummah whom I curse and he in no way deserves it, let that, O Lord, be made a source of purification and purity and nearness to (Allah) on the Day of Resurrection. Reference : Sahih Muslim 2603 In-book reference : Book 45, Hadith 124 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 32, Hadith 6297

So you're blaming Omar رضي الله عنه for something he did not commit using his own hands ( murder)? Common he did a lot to islam than you guys will ever do. Every human make mistake but doesn't mean they are kafir

@Thaqlain

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Where did we say Omar is Kafir?

@As-cc2xz

11 ай бұрын

Here I saw in some replys they compare Omar with Ibliss(لعنة الله عليه), there is need for you to correct them and give the prophet companion his respect.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Please reread the comment you made in the first place.

@As-cc2xz

11 ай бұрын

​@@Thaqlain but you still blame him which is quite spreading hatred among Muslims. So maybe I interpreted wrong sorry, but from comment section I can clearly see other having that hatred.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

We are not responsible for what others think. We delete comments promoting hatred.

Omar wanted to remove moavia but he died, then why Osman did not remove moavia ???

@TheJayair

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Othman was cousins to the ummayds.

@sayyid5416

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Most of the ummayads were appointed by Othman on many high-ranking positions.

Sir you need to read nahjul balagha 225 and reply me that who was that unknown person 😒😒 and if you want to expose the hypocrisy of nahjul balagha shia writer you need to check saheeh bukhari 3685 you will get your answer about umar ibni khattab rza mola Ali as performed a noha when umar rza died

@Thaqlain

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The same Ali who said that I was with the Prophet so close like a calve to his mother and that no one was close to the Prophet like I was. So either Imam Ali was lying at that point or 3685 is fabricated. Moreover, the narrator from Ibn Abbas is Ibn Abi Maleeka who was a judge of Abdullah ibn Zubair. And even Sunni scholars know how openly Zubairis used to fabricate narrations.

@Thaqlain

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And yes, the unknown person in 225 is Uthman ibn Madhun. Imam Ali loved him so much that he even named his son after him.

سلاما يا عمر الفاروق رضي الله عنه❤

Logic: How one dicision of Allah to create world led to Karbala.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

MashaAllah you gave the same logic as Muawiya did when they killed Ammar ibn Yasir. That it was due to Imam Ali because he brought him to the battle. Had he not brought him to the battle we wouldn't have killed him. But it seems like you can fall deeper than Ummayads.

Umar bin Al Khattab (R.A) is our pride. The fitna that created by the Munafiqoons at the time is the reason for Shiism and it s theology. We are all journeying to Allah Ajwajil and the slanderers will surely taste the consequences.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Shi'ism existed way before Umar. The Prophet has narrations praising the Shia of Imam Ali. It was a group of devout Muslims who considered Imam Ali as their leader after the Prophet.

Refrain From Rafidhah. It is nothing to do with Islam

Story of second khalifa is utterly wrong and biased towards one sect( shia an Ali)

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

We will like to correct ourselves

Lets assume that if shia on right path...than i must left the islam... Because...islam still not spread in the world....

@Thaqlain

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Prophet was unable to spread Islam in the world. So should we leave Prophet? What kind of criteria is this?

Curse to those who so ever curse sahaba

You shia hate umar (ra.) because his army killed the army of rustom.and we all know how much you love rustom.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Who's rustom?

How far are you willing to take this? Then the Prophet ﷺ should have executed Abu Sufyan and his household on the day of Fat’hul Mecca. By him ﷺ pardoning them he gave them more chance to plot and scheme which led to Yazid and Karbala.

@Thaqlain

10 ай бұрын

Pardoning Tulaqa does not mean that you make them the governors.

@TopTierTV95

10 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain Prophet ﷺ did not seem to give any direction about them being or not being governors. Just saying, if you want to take it further back, we can say he ﷺ should have executed them. He executed others, but pardoned Abu Sufyan. I believe this was strategic to utilize his influence on other neighboring tribes and even in Rome. But the cost of pardoning them is the possibility of them being disloyal. Hence, Allah and Rasulullah ﷺ even instituted them as being a category of Zakat recipients (mu’allafatun li qulubihim) - so they could be assured in their loyalty and not falter. Even then, there’s no guarantee. Hence we see that their survival of Fat’hul Mecca led them to scheming back into the fight for leadership.

@Thaqlain

10 ай бұрын

The narrations are pretty clear on this matter. The Prophet did warn about being vigilant of them.

is there any evidence that hazrat Umar heard about ameer Maviya and did nothing? tell me both shia and non shia scholor if not then dont spread such knowledge

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

All references on this link almerja.com/reading.php?idm=78421 Though as a Muslim, shouldn't be our first concern that a person cursed by our Prophet is made governor?

أفر من قضاء الله إلى قدره

You thinks Hazrat Umar is loyal of Banu umayya.

@Thaqlain

2 ай бұрын

If you make a Tulaqa governor the proof is convincing :)

EVERYONE READ THIS! THE AUTHOR OF THIS VIDEO EARLIER TOLD ME IN COMMENTS THAT THERE IS A REFERENCE OF THIS IN OUR (SUNNI MUSLIMS) BOOKS. I ASKED THE AUTHOR TO SEND ME THE EXACT REFERENCE FROM SAHIH BUKHARI WHEREIN OUR BELOVED PROPHET (PBUH) CURSES MUSLIMS (ESPECIALLY ONE MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO). HE FAILED TO SHOW IT! LIER! BEAWERE!

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Everyone, please give some attention to this brother/sister.

@zoonadaba1

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain Still waiting for your references. YOU ARE EXPOSED!

Naseemshah

Maviya ( LA) ibn Abu sufiyaan(L A) is related to Usman So there is connection ( conflict of interest )

@Thaqlain

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Please share any letter from Imam Hasan in which he called Muawiyah his Ameer.

@zahrahusain5965

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@@imranali-fy6ifwhat makes you think Shia are annoyed at Al imam Al Hasan?

@sayyid5416

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@@imranali-fy6if "Shias are annoyed at Imam Hasan (as)" Have you lost your senses? In which world you are living!

@zeeshanbhat

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@@imranali-fy6ifHypocrite! Muawiya was less than a person, let alone worthy of being called Ameer and that too, by one of the noblest people to ever exist. He was a black spot, a wretched soul, a debased human, despot, tyrant and a vile animal. His family tree is from illegitimate roots and its leaves and branches are dead and wilted. He will burn in the pits of Hell till eternity as a prime example of debasery. He is not worthy of being called a human let alone Ameer or Caliph or Companion. People who call him Caliph are sitting on fence. And Allah swt will deal justly with them, not mercifully.

Tell me who is is abu lolo feroz , shia destroy our self by our hand ...

Omar r was one of the bravest man in Islamic history . With his reception of Islam, preaching of Islam started openly. The prophet (s) prayed to Allah that make Islam strong either one of the umar ie Omar khattab or Abu jahal. But Allah gave hidaya to Omar (r) , and rest is history. 2nd best sahaba. Man with promised jannah with other 9 sahabas. shias in the traps of shayateen. Innocent shias don't learn dheen from these type of people.

@Thaqlain

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If you are eager to learn, please allow us to share a few links on the Islam of Omar: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYGfk6N9ZZXQpbA.html

@naathnaath6377

11 ай бұрын

​@@Thaqlain Did H Umar RA marry H Ali RA daughter?

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

No

@naathnaath6377

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain AlKulayni (d329h)reports it. Al Murtada (d436h) reports it...He was the elder brother of Sayyid Al Radi,who wrote Nahjul Balagha. Imam Sadiq reports it. It's also in Al Kafi. These are references from within your own books.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

This should help you www.al-islam.org/critical-assessment-umm-kulthums-marriage-umar-sayyid-ali-al-husayni-al-milani/section-4-umars Also, we never consider all narrations in our books as authentic. In the School of Ahlulbayt, no book except Quran is "Sahih".

With all due respect, this guy is misrepresenting history if he's going to blame Umar ibn al Khattab RA

@Thaqlain

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Then please guide us on who gave Ummayads the power even though the Prophet cursed them.

@sub7se7en

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@@Thaqlain Why does it have to be anyone gave them power? The issue goes back to Imamah, which shias can never support. When it comes to Hadith we disagree on the meaning, so that doesn't bring us anywhere. We need to go back to the Quran. Imamah is usool ad Deen, according to shias, and every usool ad Deen is found in the Quran clearly and precisely except Imamah. Quran 3:7 confirms that the foundations of the Quran are all clear and precise, yet no such verse exists about Imamah. Quran 3:7 goes on to say that those with deviance in their heart use ambiguous verses to come to an interpretation that suits them, which is what shias do to support imamah. That's evidence that imamah isn't a part of Islam.

@Thaqlain

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The question in this video is certainly not about Imamah. The point here is simple: Muawiya, the one cursed by the Prophet, was given power by Umar. Thus he has a role in Karbala.

@sub7se7en

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@@Thaqlain The question in the video is directly related to Imamah. You're taking Yazid's actions multiple steps back and saying it's the result of Umar. Well, Umar being khalifa, if we follow your trend and take it steps back, is directly related to the issue of Imamah. And as I've clearly outlined Imamah is not even a part of Islam according to the Quran.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Happens when you leave one of the Thaqalayn. You are bound to go astray according to the Prophet's hadith. The blame of Unar usurping the right of Imam Ali is one thing, and his appointing Muawiya to rule the Levant is an entirely next-level crime. But we agree, when one leaves the guidelines of the Quran and the Prophet and decides to take things in their hand, they are bound to make the accursed their governors.

Brothers focus on present and future, don't keep dwelling in the past for God's sake 🙏

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

While Quran is filled with stories from the people of the past.

What!!! This is a new way to blame and spread hate aginst Hazrat Umer. His decision made Muawyia governor of only Syria, but he was made king (or caliph; i dont consider him caliph though) of whole muslim world after a treaty which was signed by Hazrat Imam Hassan (a.s). I would not buy the story that Imam Hassan (a.s.) ignored the narration of the prophet (SAW) and saved his companions. I think both Hazrat Umer (r.a) and Imam Hassan (a.s) had their own reason/ necessitation. Both might have limited choices in front of them with regards to muawyia.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Imam Hassan did not made Muawiya governor. Neither he ever accepted him as the caliph. So the one who made an accursed his governor and empowered him will always be considered as liable.

Abu Ubaidah Ibn Jarrah is the Ummah's Ameen. RasulAllah's Ummah. ❤

How can Hazrat Umar Radiallahu taala anhu judge that banu umaya will consolidate power. He was the Ameer and did his best as per need in that situation. He didn’t appoint him as his first choice as you yourself said. Now you have all the events before your eyes and you think retrospectively and make judgment which is not fair. Second. All your nonsense allegations and unauthentic narrations are not going to help you except make you burn in hell fire if you don’t repent because you are tying a lie against prophet peace be upon him.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Weren't the narrations of the Prophet not an enough warning? Were there not any other companions except the Tulaqa' to be made as governors?

HAZRAT UMAR (RA)'s glory is like an ocean. Even if you try to take a few droplets out from that ocean, it would make absolutely NO difference! The man's accomplishments are terrific, spend his whole life with Prophet (PBUH), is currently lying next to Prophet (PBUH) in Masjid Nabwi, and will wake-up with Prophet (PBUH) on the day of judgement....You guys couldn't do any damage to his image even after trying for centuries. He was great then, and is great now and will always remain great! Allah u Akbar!!! Karbala happened because Allah (SWT) wanted it to happen to teach Muslims and human beings in general A BIG LESSON (Of defending truth WHATSOEVER). And, Hazrat Hussain (AS) was the CHOSEN one by Allah (SWT) to teach this lesson to everyone.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

So the grandson of the Prophet is butchered and her granddaughters are taken as captives but we should not discuss what led to this massacre?

@zoonadaba1

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain Don't blindly blame our sahabas, especially Hazrat Umar (RA). He was the greatest and most influential caliph in Muslim history.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

There is no blind blame here. Things are discussed in an academic manner and with references.

@zoonadaba1

11 ай бұрын

@Thaqlain Your references and accusations are not correct. We Sunni Muslims disagree! Had Maviya diverted from the teachings of Islam, Hazrat Umar (RA) wouldn't have spared him. Umar (RA) was strict and would never overlook anyone who did haraam things. Yazid diverted from the straight path, but that was after the end of Rashidun Caliphate.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Is being accursed by the Prophet not something enough for Muslims?

Don't listen to these people . They just lie on sahabas 1. Prophet pbuh prayed to Allah, that strength en Islam through one of the Omar. ie Omar khattab or Abu jahil. Both are brave and influential people of mecca. But Allah gave hidaya to Omar (r). 2.After that only preaching of Islam started openly. The brave Omar (r) open done hijra while many others secretly. 3. Prophet (s) given him the nick name Farook means truth 4. The Prophet (s) said if any Prophet have to come after me it will Omar (r) but Prophethood is siezed after muhammad (s). 5. He s promised jannah, along with other 9 sahabas. 6. The Prophet (s) said the shaytan will ran away from seeing Omar (r). 7. The second Khalifa of Islam. If he s coward and fraud no sahabas will make him second Khalifa 8. He s the man who advised Khalifa aboobacker siddeeque to codify and write holy quran , coz the hafiz of quran are dying in the battle field. 9. The ali (r) one of the khulafahu rashideen named his sons as aboobacker Omar and usman. And married his one daughter to Omar (r). As shia says if Omar (r) attacked fathima(r), did Ali (r) ever name his kids as Omar? Ever will marry his daughter umm khulthum to Omar (r). 10. During his Era the Islam conquered palestine and many other parts. 11. There r revelations in holy Quran establishing the opinion of umar (r). 12 . His rule and administration policies are even praised by modern people 13 . In the book written by Michael H hart ' the 100' the greatest personalities ever lived on earth, Omar (r) in number 52. And our prophet (s) is number 1 The legacy of umar (r) and his contribution to Islam is immense. Don't follow these people

@Thaqlain

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If you are ready to learn, let us share a few links to answer your points: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYGfk6N9ZZXQpbA.html

6587

All wrong information

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

Please correct us.

Salamu Alayka Ya Amir-ul-Momineen UMAR BIN KHATTAB ( R.A)

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Was the title of Amir ul Momineen given by the Prophet or is this some kind of new Bid'a?

Invasion of Iran made iranian people madmen. Your such accusations will yield you nothing.

@mirmushtaqali9388

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At least there is someone who is opening up the pandora Box , real islamic history is all written in sunnie 6 sahi books , unfortunately 99% of sunnies don’t read the books you guys instead blind folding listen to your Friday sermon mullah who cherry pick the haidiths

@Thaqlain

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The Sheikh is an Arab from Hilla :) So in his case, you will have to bring up another argument. Tabari was, by the way, born in Iran.

@EpicRevelations

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​@zedispahany7317 nah stop it man. its YOU guys who call your books Sahih. Bukhari and Muslim are shotguns to the face. That's why when the anger of Fatima hadith is mentioned, you guys say the burning of the house never happened because denying the hadith means denying its authenticity. Both sides probably twist haduths but I've seen many shia hadiths twisted by sunni scholars

@cmsacademy1673

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@@Thaqlainthe sheikh is an Arab from London. Hilla is originally Persian so actually like most of the turbans he is a Persian with deep hatred of Islam and the Quran in his heart.

@Thaqlain

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It seems not just your history is weak but your understanding of geography is also weak 🙂

This video rises many questions on Prophet Muhammad(s.a.w) himself as he accepted the family of Abu sufiyan to join the religion. Even Many of the sahab's including Hz.Umar (r.a) were against Abu sufiyan at that time but Prophet (a.s) gave them safe shelter. Well I am not Defending Abu sufiyan and his Family as I dislike and disregard them a lot but just because they were granted shelter from Prophet himself i don't disrespect them.

@Thaqlain

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Prophet tried as much as he could to instill the love of Islam in them. But he knew that they will stab in the back the moment they will get power. And guess he gave them power after all.

@user-jx9hr9jz5y

11 ай бұрын

It was law of the land , we cannot to the contest of the scenario. Alhumdulilah. Mohammed (PBUH) has succeeded and Islam is fastest growing among religions

Look at the beard of this guy😂... He is teaching u islam ..AstagfirAllah

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Such beautiful Muslims we have MashaAllah.

Ameer ul momineen umar ibn al khattab (ra) is the man who shayateen were afraid of, i swear upon Allah (swt) you will get nothing out of slandering him or making a enemy out of him,it will only hurt you.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

The purpose of this video is not to slander nor any part of the content is focused on slandering. As for the narration of Shayateen being afraid of Omar, it is surprising that Muslims consider it in his praise. It shows that Omar had such high temper that even Shaytan would not prefer such temperament. While the Prophet had a soft and easy character. Yet Muslims took him as a caliph even though his character does not match that of the Prophet. Moreover, this narration is by Saad ibn Abi Waqas. The same Saad who did not pledge allegiance to the fourth caliph and did not participate in the battles (even though he was in Kufa). His son is Umar ibn Saad the one who killed Imam Hussain. This shows how much the killers of Imam Hussain were hand in hand with Umar ibn Khattab. Thanks for enlightening us further with this hadith :)

Hazrat Omer never told Moawia to nominate his son as khalifa. Hilli is trying to blame hazrat Omer for everything that happened in future merely because of his grudge about hazeat Omer.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Wasn't appointing Muawiya enough sin? The same Muawiya who killed companions and changed the Sunnah.

@naeemakhtar5553

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain no killing took place during Omer caliphate. All took place after him. Omer can't be blamed for this sin.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

So you think Muawiya was all a good guy during the time of Omar? Companions used to complain about his corruption to Omar, but he ignored them. Omar knew the Prophet cursed Muawiya, yet he was given governorship to "establish family ties".

@naeemakhtar5553

11 ай бұрын

@@Thaqlain Dear brother let us be decent in our discussion. I am on Moula Ali's and Imam Hussain's side. But for the sake of finding truth we should not merely blame someone because we don't like someone. Firstly, Your reply indicates that you do not have any instance of killings of muslims during Omer caliphate. Secondly, you have given a sweeping statement about Moawia's corruption. Plz give names of those who complained about Moawia's corruption with amount of corruption during Omer caliphate.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Isn't it sad that while you have concern for Umar and Muawiya, you ignored the fact that the Prophet cursed Muawiya and his family? The same Muawiya who was the son of Hind. And they were given control over the entire Levant to establish "brotherly ties"?

"If Allah was to send a messenger after me it would be Umar ibn Al-Khattab." - Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him and his noble family) narrated by Abu Sa'id Al-Khudari (may Allah be well pleased with him) [Al-Tabarani] "Jibril, upon him peace, came to me and said, "Convey greeting to Umar and say to him his satisfaction is wisdom and his anger might."" - Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him and his noble family) narrated by Ibn Abbas (may Allah be well pleased with him) [Al-Tabarani]

@hussainbukhari5083

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why u telling us ur fabricated hadiths

@TahirHussainMir24

Жыл бұрын

Fabricated hadith - 100% How can ki ll er of Fatima Zahra (sa) be the next prophet - Na'udhubillah

@sufisonic

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@@hussainbukhari5083 Imam Ali (AS) said: Caliph (of Rasulullah) Abu Bakr, was the best of in Islam and was the most well-wisher and faithful to Allah and His Messenger. And his Caliph, Caliph Umar ibn Khattab was also like the same (as you understood). I swear by my age, that their status in Islam was such a great. And their death caused Islam, a severe shock. May Allah have mercy upon (both of) them, and give them the best reward for their good deeds. [Sharh Nahj Al Balagha, Ibn al-Maytham al-Bahrani, 31/486]

@hussainbukhari5083

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@@sufisonic Beware! By Allah, the son of Abu Quhafah (Abu Bakr)2 dressed himself with it (the caliphate) and he certainly knew that my position in relation to it was the same as the position of the axis in relation to the hand-mill. nahjul balaga Sermon of ash-Shiqshiqiyah.

@sufisonic

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@@hussainbukhari5083 We’re both quoting from the same Shi’a source: Nahjul Balagha. It does appear to be in direct contradiction with itself. Can we rely on this source to have a broad opinion about someone that Imam Ali (AS) - The Lion of Allah - did not stand up against? On the other hand, the son of the Lion of Allah - Al-Husayn - did in fact stand up to someone that didn’t deserve to be called a caliph.

Shia speakers are good at telling distorted history. No matter how hard you try to defame our sahabas, but truth will always be on our side. Umar radiallahu anha was the fort of Islam. A name which still terrifies and irks the mushriks.

@Thaqlain

Жыл бұрын

Please share what is distorted here and InshaAllah we will correct ourselves.

@thexonic

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No one is distorting any history! Facts are facts! Family > sahaba and if you believe the Sahaba have a higher rank or priority then you are probably following a fabricated religion! There was no one more important to Prophet (saws) than Ahlal Bait (as), 100000s of Sahaba on one side and Ali on the other and Ali will still outweigh them all by miles! So keep this sahaba fiction to yourself and wake up! Ali was the first one with the Prophet and he was the last when the so called sahaba were busy in the saqifa!

@abrahimbazzi3623

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Umar called the prophet (S.A.W)delirious and said he’s speaking nonsense. How can hou respect someone who disrespects you’re prophet? Same goes for Aisha, she went to war against imam Ali, when she should have stayed at home. It’s funny because you guys seem to forget that some of you’re beloved companions like muawiyah and Aisha went to war against imam Ali.

@mahdiali872

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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 show me one hadith showing Umar on the battlefield aside from when he ran away 😂😅😂😅😂

May Allah be pleased with Omar al Farooq and curse the rawafidh till day of judgment

@lordcommander14

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May Allah be pleased with Rafidah and curse Muaviah till he day of judgement. Now FO

"I am from Umar and Umar is from me. The truth, after me, is with Umar wherever he is." - Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him and his noble family) Reported by Ibn Abbas (may Allah be well pleased with him) [Al-Tabarani in Al-Kabir and others - Authentic] Imam Ali (may Allah ennoble his face) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bestow peace and blessings upon him) said, "Abu Bakr and Umar are mature masters of the inhabitants of paradise, of the first and the last with the exception of the Prophets and the Messengers." [Imam Ahmad authentic]

@TheJayair

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So the Prophet was a kafir before his prophethood the same as Umar was before they met, so when Umar heard the Prophet got killed in the battle of Uhud, he and his coward buddy Abubakar fled still his also from Umar. For 3 years when the Prophet and his family were casted out of Makkah and left in a barren land and if it was not for Bibi Khadija (SA) they would have died. Where were these two.

@Thaqlain

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A lot of these hadith were fabricated by Ummayads as a token of appreciation. Note that most of these narrations are exact copy of the narrations found in all books in the praise of Ahlulbayt.

@User-059-42

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May ALLAH PAAK GRANT the Rashidun Caliphs choicest blessings and peserve their honour. Muslims throughout history are highly indebted to these holy personages.

@waseemasghar1022

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This hadees is for Amirul momeenen Ali as Ibn Abu Talib as , may Allah curse the enemy of prophet Mohammed saww and his holy progeny

@tanimhasan4555

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The hadith you have said "I am from umar and umar is from me" that hadith is fabricated from "I am from Hussain and Hussain is from me". Another hadith you said "The truth after me, is with umar whatever he is" that is fabricated from "Ali is with truth and truth is with Ali. Ya Allah turn the truth wherever Ali goes". That's what Prophet Muhammad (s.w) actually said. Moreover for your kind information there will be no mature person in Paradise. Everyone will be young there. Then how will your abu bakr and umar lanti be mature masters there? Does make any sense? By holding Imam Hassan (a.s) and Imam Hussain (a.s), Prophet Muhammad (s.w) said "My two grandsons Al-Hassan and Al-Hussain will be the masters of heaven and their mother will be mistress". Have some proper knowledge about Islam moron before commenting fabricated hadiths. Allah (swt) and his Prophet (s.w) curse those who make fabricated hadith.

I dnt believe in the history written by jews... I believe in quran nd that is not against umar as... Salam alaika umar ibn al khattab...

@Thaqlain

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Was Tabari a jew?

@vampirekhan808

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@@Thaqlain who knws... Or may b he copied false statements or history by mistake

@Thaqlain

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In that case, there is an equal probability that he is correct. And may be Umar was actually guilty of giving Ummayads power and thus laying the foundation of the tragedy of Karbala. 50-50 :)

@vampirekhan808

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@@Thaqlain u cant prove hz umar wrong by quran.. Nd i dnt believe other sources

@Thaqlain

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Neither can we prove him to be good. So once again, 50% probability by your absurd standards.

lanatullah alal kazibeen, Ameen. don't reply to this message just say Ameen and move on if you are honest.

@Thaqlain

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Ameen. Summa Ameen 🤲

This guy is a slanderer. Hadhrat Umar Radiallahu anhu had nothing to do with it. Dont deceive people.

@Thaqlain

11 ай бұрын

Slander: make false and damaging statements about (someone). Please guide us on what is false, and we will get it corrected.

Fabricated lies.😂😂😂😂

Naseemshah