David Graeber: All Economies are Ultimately Human Economies (2015)

Speech held at the conference "Challenging Capitalist Modernity II: Dissecting Capitalist Modernity - Building Democratic Confederalism"
3-5 April 2015, Hamburg

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  • @foodparadise5792
    @foodparadise57923 жыл бұрын

    Too bad I found this man's work after he passed.

  • @puppetMattster
    @puppetMattster8 жыл бұрын

    This man can crash on my couch absolutely anytime.

  • @anthony9475

    @anthony9475

    4 жыл бұрын

    Firstand Last You’re a really weird dude.

  • @remypetit1791

    @remypetit1791

    2 жыл бұрын

    You bet, I'll make sure we never run out of weed

  • @domeister76
    @domeister763 жыл бұрын

    That guy asking him to slow down repeatedly! haha! Asking Graeber's mind to slow down is like asking an F1 racing car to keep to the speed limit.

  • @idlikemoreprivacy9716

    @idlikemoreprivacy9716

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like envy too. I'm a non native speaker and can follow w/o problems + have time to think about what he says and enjoy the talk.

  • @elizabethdesousa8290

    @elizabethdesousa8290

    Жыл бұрын

    I was feeling irritated that he continued to do that. I found it rude.

  • @nathanielroach6559

    @nathanielroach6559

    10 ай бұрын

    I know, right?

  • @xyzunodostres
    @xyzunodostres3 жыл бұрын

    Graeber: "The more useful your job, the less you get paid. How did that happen?"

  • @ping-annaddo5248
    @ping-annaddo52488 жыл бұрын

    Great talk. And for the record, I DID read Graeber's "Towards an Anthropological Theory of Value." I cited it in my own work and teach it regularly to students. Great work. DG is a great teacher.

  • @TechLive

    @TechLive

    8 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you're a great teacher as well! Thanks for all your effort!

  • @JohnWilson-ng1ui

    @JohnWilson-ng1ui

    3 жыл бұрын

    i started reading it a while ago and couldn't get through it. This inspired me to pick it back up

  • @remypetit1791

    @remypetit1791

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's an incredibly inspiring scholar, I think I'm gonna start studying anthropology

  • @uberdru
    @uberdru5 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Van Halen, could you please play fewer notes?

  • @manondamoon8911

    @manondamoon8911

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or at least slow it down would ya. What a fucken liberty

  • @nicetrymate813
    @nicetrymate8132 жыл бұрын

    RIP David Graeber. Absolute legend

  • @suesimmons926
    @suesimmons9263 жыл бұрын

    Monetizing and commodifying everything reminds me of the elaborate system of classification of every kind of possible sin undertaken in the Middle Ages.

  • @mikeh5399
    @mikeh53995 жыл бұрын

    "That very isolation, which enslaves us is freedom." That's some George Orwell business right there.

  • @n1mbusmusic606
    @n1mbusmusic6063 жыл бұрын

    we love you Dave. your the best. RIP

  • @hotelcampina
    @hotelcampina3 жыл бұрын

    Gwyn Williams. What a tragedy his passing. One can only imagine what else he might have produced for our enlightenment. We have all lost a brother, no doubt at all

  • @LoisKl

    @LoisKl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Truly a huge loss... on so many levels.. He had/has a book coming out hopefully in spring, in collaboration with David Wengrow. A snek peak on the subject can be listened to here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6qJ3MaDg66aqJs.html

  • @yabyum108
    @yabyum1085 жыл бұрын

    A revolutionary thinker

  • @instituteforexperimentalar7493
    @instituteforexperimentalar74933 жыл бұрын

    DAVID GRAEBER was a founding member of the Institute for Experimental Arts He did a lecture with the title: How social and economic structure influences the Art World in the Financial Consequences - International MultiMedia Poetry Festival organized by the Institute for Experimental Arts supported by LSE Department of Anthropology. Influential anthropologist David Graeber, known for his 2011 volume Debt: The First 5000 Years speaks about the correlation between the cultural sphere and society. The intellectuals and the artists create an imaginary way to criticize the economic system in any era. Art can overcome hegemonic frameworks and acknowledge other possible worlds, offer us the opportunity to understand better the marginalized social entities. Social exclusion is the process in which individuals or people are systematically blocked from (or denied full access to) various rights, opportunities and resources that are normally available to members of a different group, and which are fundamental to social integration and observance of human rights within that particular group (e.g., housing, employment, healthcare, civic engagement, democratic participation, and due process). As the economic crises go deeper in time more people face the effects of exclusion. Art and social sciences can give voice to the voiceless. Especially young social aware poets can give us a clear view of the real social effect of the financial consequences. - David Graeber You can watch the Lecture here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iXd6j5qIgc2Wgqg.html

  • @kingmob2615
    @kingmob26153 жыл бұрын

    God DAMN, that's a good approach to medicine. Thank goodness for that doctor and thank goodness for social ecology. Rest in Power David Graeber, Murray Bookchin, Abdullah Ocalan, and all of the martyrs! ✊🖤🏴🦝🏴🖤

  • @TheJoetebb

    @TheJoetebb

    10 ай бұрын

    ocalan lives on!!!

  • @johnstockwellmajorsmedleyb1214
    @johnstockwellmajorsmedleyb12146 жыл бұрын

    Thank You David for your speech, it is at one time Logical, Thoughtful, Entertaining, and Philosophical. I am proud to be and live, and Live Well, as a Libertarian Socialist. Most believe I am just a bit eccentric, but you allow me to show them there are others, in a fun way.

  • @VIsTheMusic
    @VIsTheMusic6 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely agree with every single thing and living a life devoted to improving the global community one idea at a time. Liberate yourselves from BS in your lives. BS is not acceptable in 2017 + + !!!!!!!!!!

  • @scottylilacleona9193
    @scottylilacleona91935 жыл бұрын

    This helps me understand what my mother believes, that belief of work being valuable in itself. I could bring this up to her sometime.

  • @nathanswann1198
    @nathanswann11983 жыл бұрын

    when Graeber goes off script and cuts like a knife, my brain wrinkles.

  • @robinhoodstfrancis
    @robinhoodstfrancis8 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic. I would've liked to make reference to his work in my masters thesis on co-operatives in renewable energy in Europe. I've been appreciating social constructivism/constructionism as a way to support understanding the mainstream neoliberal views and the alternative in civil society organizations like Greenpeace, Oxfam, and the World Conference on Religions for Peace. The co-operative business model, no less, with David Ellerman's new formulation of a Labor Theory of Property is excellent. William Greider wrote an excellent book, The Soul of Capitalism, in which he discusses these things, along with Herman Daly's ecological economics. Fritjof Capra has been using the expression "ecological literacy," some of the foundations of how we make each other, this idea that Graeber talks about so richly.

  • @johnstockwellmajorsmedleyb1214

    @johnstockwellmajorsmedleyb1214

    6 жыл бұрын

    For sure self reliance creating communities off the grid, diconnect ourselves from the machine in everyway and it will wither and die!!! So simple educate, plan, build, create, walk away from the machine in every way and back to what is really sacred!!!

  • @mechabits197
    @mechabits1975 жыл бұрын

    and paying over the odds for your education...to people who probably didnt....is a sure fire way to boost their economy.

  • @Shiro46AV
    @Shiro46AV9 жыл бұрын

    Great vid!

  • @pjabtg
    @pjabtg5 жыл бұрын

    It’s funny I was mad at the guy for telling him to slow down three times, but at the end he was right, David’s too brilliant for his own mouth, when he slows down, we applaud :)

  • @voltcorp

    @voltcorp

    2 жыл бұрын

    yet, sitting down now with a button to slow down the video, and not having him around anymore to give us his brilliance, it does put into perspective how perhaps he should've been allowed to make the best possible use of his time.

  • @petertschann-grimm1468
    @petertschann-grimm14686 жыл бұрын

    Heh I feel for that guy interrupting because Graeber really is brilliant, and he does talk fast... if English isn't your first english, I'm sure it would be hard to understand his points.

  • @SamraK64

    @SamraK64

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can testify. English is my second language and I think I'm really good at understanding it, but the first time I heard Graeber was one of the most intense intellectual effort I produced ever. Now that I saw a few videos I'm getting used to his way of speaking and I think I get everything, but wow, this first time, hearing him live with no "10 sec backwards" button... I feel for the (I think mostly German) people who are hosting and attending this event

  • @adamstheguy1619

    @adamstheguy1619

    3 жыл бұрын

    You cant just keep stopping people from talking. It interrupts their thought process and is not polite. Just replay, for God’s sake. Or learn better English.!These days we should have real time robotic translators into any language. I am sure tech is out there.

  • @nohisocitutampoc2789

    @nohisocitutampoc2789

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely the moderator was a impolite gut, there’s no question about it. But, Graeber had a very difficult English. And most part of the word don’t have English as a the first, thanks God.

  • @joshismyhandle

    @joshismyhandle

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s why the bloke who is interrupting should just rewatch the video on KZread in half the speed if so desired. Interrupting the speaker’s train of thought for the listener to understand in a conference is not only rude, but subtracts from the points able to be made within the allocated window of time to speak.

  • @christflu4221
    @christflu4221 Жыл бұрын

    13:38-14:20 is the best summarization of the discussions around "reproductive labor" that i've heard. man he really had a way with words sometimes. what a loss. RIP

  • @TarquinFoundump
    @TarquinFoundump8 жыл бұрын

    tight

  • @robwallace8249
    @robwallace82492 жыл бұрын

    At 5:35 David mentions that Marx wrote that ancient authors did not write about the conditions that would create the most wealth, but rather the conditions that would create the best people. Can anyone tell me where in Marx's writings that can be found?

  • @suesimmons926
    @suesimmons9263 жыл бұрын

    Production of people:"This is my work and my glory... to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man."

  • @0empanadas534
    @0empanadas5344 жыл бұрын

    Alguien mas llegó aquí gracias a Migala? :^

  • @jakecarlo9950
    @jakecarlo9950 Жыл бұрын

    ❤️

  • @tristanreynolds5135
    @tristanreynolds51354 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of Baudrillard's book, *The Mirror of Production*. I think Zizek acknowledges this with Marx's work, though he uses some Lacanian maneuvering to make it into a good/neccessary thing.

  • @niharnm3671

    @niharnm3671

    5 ай бұрын

    Lmp

  • @OneEyedMonkey9000
    @OneEyedMonkey9000 Жыл бұрын

    It’s funny to hear the guy asking David to slow down played at 1.25x speed 😆

  • @nicetrymate813
    @nicetrymate8132 жыл бұрын

    Can I ask why you have the triskellion as your logo? and why is the triskellion being used in this presentation?

  • @domingo2977
    @domingo29773 жыл бұрын

    He serious because he took off the glasses. 🤣🤣😂🤣🤯😱🤔

  • @oldreprobate2748
    @oldreprobate27483 жыл бұрын

    Money is a social construct, and that social construct is best used to support the needs of all of society. When not there is eventual crime, enemies, wars, and every other I'll that exist within our worldwide human experience.

  • @AudioPervert1
    @AudioPervert15 жыл бұрын

    all love the mac laptop ... Wow!

  • @smooa1889

    @smooa1889

    4 жыл бұрын

    what

  • @FreerMasons
    @FreerMasons2 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like he is discussing Polanyi's embedded systems argument. capitalism embedded in Communism is much different than communism embedded in Capitalism. @29:00

  • @ernststravoblofeld
    @ernststravoblofeld3 жыл бұрын

    I think they had a bet behind the scenes to see if they could get David to do an unwitting Shatner impression.

  • @Anarchist_Black_Sheep

    @Anarchist_Black_Sheep

    Ай бұрын

    I don't know much about David as a person, but somehow, I think he would have approved of such a bet.

  • @xyzunodostres
    @xyzunodostres3 жыл бұрын

    Where is Rogivo?

  • @ollipaukkeri

    @ollipaukkeri

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's Rojava. In syria

  • @njits789
    @njits789 Жыл бұрын

    "David, a little bit slower." What?

  • @funkybunky64
    @funkybunky644 жыл бұрын

    David mentions this work *Stop creating capitalism". Found it here: www.johnholloway.com.mx/2011/07/30/stop-making-capitalism/ Interesting read!

  • @FreerMasons
    @FreerMasons2 жыл бұрын

    @25:15 :)

  • @s4njuro462
    @s4njuro4626 жыл бұрын

    That dude interrupting annoyed me enough to stop watching...

  • @lemon4472

    @lemon4472

    6 жыл бұрын

    The interruption was cuz the live-translators could catch up, but yeah, he could've totally been more chill about it.

  • @legalfictionnaturalfact3969

    @legalfictionnaturalfact3969

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's almost like it was intended to annoy and interrupt.

  • @PerteTotale

    @PerteTotale

    4 жыл бұрын

    Interrupting a thought process is disrespect, and untimely i. is a sign of dumbness. (Live) Translators should be ok with this speed, though I give a small handicap: the fast leap from 1 topic to 1a or 2 is where importance of understanding the topic and a broad voca comes in. I understand all this talk at normal speed and English is only my 3th language.

  • @anthony9475

    @anthony9475

    4 жыл бұрын

    Some languages take longer to speak than others such as sign language. Try and be more sympathetic.

  • @suesimmons926
    @suesimmons9263 жыл бұрын

    How can you stand to do all that housework drudgery everyday? Actually what I am doing is raising a family!

  • @dumbnonblonde4840
    @dumbnonblonde48404 жыл бұрын

    David is endlessly cute and he looks so damn young I won't look half as good when I age, love him so much

  • @n1mbusmusic606
    @n1mbusmusic6063 жыл бұрын

    they killed him we have to Stand up for whats right. this isn't okay. this guy was one of the most important people on the planet. absolutely unacceptable.

  • @smooa1889
    @smooa18895 жыл бұрын

    this dude says um so fucking much everytime he speaks

  • @amyjefferis3394
    @amyjefferis3394 Жыл бұрын

    29:05 "capitalism is just a bad way of organizing communism"😂

  • @smooa1889
    @smooa18894 жыл бұрын

    um

  • @TheGodlessGuitarist
    @TheGodlessGuitarist3 жыл бұрын

    I'll bet capitalists choke when they here DG tell them that they invented the notion of 'arbeit macht frei'.

  • @FreerMasons
    @FreerMasons2 жыл бұрын

    @17:45 :(

  • @harismichail2
    @harismichail23 ай бұрын

    Just in the vantage point of a viewer. The guy interrupting. What a tool.Just follow the natural rhythm of the person. goddam

  • @alinebaruchi1936
    @alinebaruchi19362 жыл бұрын

    .

  • @markmason8469
    @markmason84695 жыл бұрын

    In the future, do not interrupt the speakers demanding that they speak more slowly. This is rude. An insult. If you have a problem with language communications you can hire a translator and hand our headphones. Don't interrupt speakers. Why is it necessary for me to even articulate this request? Don't confuse and distract any speaker with your own personal language problems.

  • @SoziologeKS

    @SoziologeKS

    3 жыл бұрын

    this. this damn moderator... and the 5 seconds he spoke slower after that were torture

  • @xyzunodostres
    @xyzunodostres3 жыл бұрын

    31:42

  • @dannyhermetz7201
    @dannyhermetz72013 жыл бұрын

    Teaching in school settings is primarily abstract and not useful. Teaching on the job as part of some production process which makes something people value is useful.

  • @moviereviews1446
    @moviereviews1446 Жыл бұрын

    The lip smacking is unbearable.

  • @jedimastersterling1
    @jedimastersterling15 жыл бұрын

    Slaves but to whom? If you're socially isolated but you have a baby and a mortgage you effectively become a slave to your work and your creditor. If you're socially isolated, your job sucks, but you don't owe anything to anyone you can pick up and leave any time you feel like it. Who is the slave master for a drifter?

  • @luciennoxisou9502

    @luciennoxisou9502

    3 жыл бұрын

    All the means of subsistence are enclosed for private profit - it is pretty hard to drift away from that hegemony though not entirely impossible if one is committed to squatting on commonly held land somewhere - for many working class people, this is not a real possibility.

  • @aliceinwonder8978

    @aliceinwonder8978

    Жыл бұрын

    "your job sucks." you answered your own question. you are a slave to your boss, who exploits you for profit and puts you in bad conditions

  • @AtlantaBill
    @AtlantaBill6 жыл бұрын

    Apparently there are simultaneous translations being done and that's why from time to time the call to slow down. Maybe they should let Graeber spell one of the interpreters for a while and find out how hard it is to put his sentences into another language. Incidentally, it's obvious that Graeber doesn't understand the classic concept of the Labor Theory of Value as found in Marx. If labor produces humans instead of material goods, how do you measure the value of these humans for the marketplace? You have to have material output before you can talk about stored labor power, i.e. Marx's dead labor.

  • @kvaka009

    @kvaka009

    6 жыл бұрын

    Atlanta Bill maybe the interpreters should make sure to try to do their work as best as they can without throwing off the speaker in his presentation. And I'm sure David knows more about Marx than you ever will. Your comment ignores or simply misunderstands what David said: Marx assumes the labor theory of value because he is engaging in imminent critique, which does not mean he himself believed that the only source of value is labor power. That was the point David explicitly made. Maybe he should've talked slower for you.

  • @legalfictionnaturalfact3969
    @legalfictionnaturalfact39695 жыл бұрын

    HOW ABOUT RECORD THE TALK AND PLAY IT AT HALF SPEED FOR YOURSELF LATER SO YOU DON'T WASTE EVERYONE ELSE'S TIME SAYING "SLOWER SLOWER PAUSE MORE NEEEE", YOU ENTITLED MANBABY.