David Fletcher's Tank Chats #2: The Carden Loyd Carrier | The Tank Museum
Tank Chats playlist • Tank Chats from The Ta... The second in a series of short films about some of the vehicles in our collection presented by The Tank Museum's historian David Fletcher MBE.
The Carden Loyd Carrier or tankette: Designed by Sir John Carden and Captain Vivian Loyd this was a low cost, two-man Machine-Gun Carrier for infantry use. The company was taken over by Vickers-Armstrong in 1927 and the vehicle was mass-produced for the British Army in addition to a thriving export trade. Unpopular with the infantry, they were used mostly by the Royal Tank Corps as embryonic light tanks in the reconnaissance role.
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"Prevent the public getting in and wrecking it" -. Brilliant. :D
@DavidSmith-ss1cg
6 жыл бұрын
And so very true!
@gastonbell108
5 жыл бұрын
Irascible old codger, he is. I understand he's an attraction in his own right at the Museum, now. hahah
@steve1978ger
5 жыл бұрын
Well, a class of ill-tempered middleschoolers can certainly do as much damage as a WW I infantry battalion ;)
@Masada1911
5 жыл бұрын
Bloody public
@davidgreen5099
4 жыл бұрын
@@Masada1911 yeah, I hate me.
I like to imagine the great tank actions of WWII as if everyone was restricted to Carden Loyd Carriers. Kursk would have been awesome.
@chrisdavis3642
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that have been something!!
@capthawkeye8010
Жыл бұрын
That was pretty much the Invasion of Poland and Battle of France. Germany invaded its neighbors with tankette Armies.
@snorkable
9 ай бұрын
lmao, that would've been like mario kart
@ian_b
9 ай бұрын
@@snorkable 🤣🤣🤣
"They tended to fall to bits as they rolled along....". That made me lol. XD Interesting vehicle.
@ZGryphon
5 жыл бұрын
A very successful design philosophy, adopted by both the American and French automobile industries in the 1970s.
@ian_b
4 жыл бұрын
@@ZGryphon Copied in that period from British Leyland.
@ThatSlowTypingGuy
3 жыл бұрын
Fortunately they were already sitting inside the engine compartment. Must have made repairs faster.
I like how it has a target painted on it to assist the enemy.
@fabiogalletti8616
4 жыл бұрын
You know, let's have a fair game. So british.
David Fletcher is THE MAN! I could listen to him all day long! He is simply brilliant! Just make these videos a slightly longer, pleeeeeease! :)
These are brilliant. Keep them coming!
@Kinolens
8 жыл бұрын
You are the best you tuber ever!
@jackbailey9714
8 жыл бұрын
+Squire For Squidonia!!!!!!!
@cdills3454
6 жыл бұрын
Wait, squires here? Welp, time to turn on notifications for the tank museum!
@jondeare
6 жыл бұрын
I love Tank Chats!
@andreamontechiarini
6 жыл бұрын
Squire yes indeed, you can tell he’s a real British gentleman just by looking at his mustache.
I need this for grocery shopping, complete with the Vic!
In a world with longer and longer videos and shorter and shorter attention spans, these videos are perfect. His delivery is spot on perfect, they are informative, but just the right length for my poor tired brain.
Absolutly fantastic! I love the way Fletcher explains things, and that you can feel he actually KNOW the stuff he is talking about. More of this if possible!
Saw this in the museum today and have to say found it quite interesting especially with the model t engine
I always like to listen to David's even though I am more into aircraft. It's a shame he retired from doing the chats. The museum is a fascinating place to visit, and can't be seen in one day unfortunately.
When a moustache becomes frontal armor ....
Why buy one? Just follow one and pick up the pieces as they fall off. Then build your own.
i love the charming little carriers the brits had!
Jingles sent me here. Worth it. Wish I could come to the museum. Learning a lot from these vids. Keep it up!!!
@thegreatq-tip594
8 жыл бұрын
+Bob Nub Jingles sent me here too. I don't need Jingles anymore since I saw these to satisfy my tank-nerdship.
@JanHurych
8 жыл бұрын
+Bob Nub This Year I visited england especially for the Bovington tank museum. Sadly I only had one day to visit it, I wish I could have spend more time there amazing place. And how I learned about that place? yea it was from Jingles... and this guy.. Fletcher, he is awesome too. I wish I had a tour around the museum with him :-D that would be amazing.
@bobnub8194
8 жыл бұрын
Biggles the Desert Hippo Well Jingles does replays, this guy just talks about tanks. Both are nice. Jan Hurych Did you go for a special day, or just a "regular" visit, if a visit to the tank museum could be called regular?
@JanHurych
8 жыл бұрын
+Bob Nub Just a regular day. It almost seems its a waste to have year pass :-D The conservation centre was opened, but you could only see the tanks from the platform, not to walk amongst them :-(
@bobnub8194
8 жыл бұрын
Jan Hurych Well you could go to Tiger day or tankfest for that. But it's still a cool place, and a year pass is pretty nice, seeing that there's some vacation time given by employers. And for british people, you could go with your family on the weekends, so it's not that bad.
A nasty habit of falling to bits as it rolled along. Lol. I love his British-isms. He is extremely knowledgeable, and a fantastic presenter. One of the best i have seen.
A wonderful little series! Looking forward to the next few!
Thank you David Fletcher. This is a perfect summary of this great little vehicle.
Mr. Fletcher I could listen to you all day.
What a cute little vehicle
Man I bet one of these would be a laugh and a half to drive.
Reminds me of some footage I once saw from East Germany where kids doing some kind of paramilitary activity drove around in little tanks that were perhaps not all that different from these ones although they were more kiddie cars rather than this carrier vehicle.
Thank you for your continuing efforts. I appreciate your passing this knowledge on.
0:10 I would definitely buy a used Tank from this man !
Keep it up!!! I absolutely love the current series Tankchats!!! My hat is off to you gentlemen!
We italians loved them so much these that..... we made our national version our "Main" battle tanks for quite a lot of years :)
@rosslynstone
5 жыл бұрын
As British tanks had tea making facilities,did they have espresso machines
@madcourier6217
4 жыл бұрын
@@rosslynstone Nah, they had a pizza oven and plenty of white flags... XD
This series is great!
I'm loving these, keep it going mr Fletcher!
keep up the good work. i would enjoy to see more Tankchats with David Fletcher
Is it wrong that i think this little machine is cute?
@ptonpc
7 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that
@zeusmultirotor8479
6 жыл бұрын
If thinking this thing is cute is wrong then I don’t want to be right
@gastonbell108
5 жыл бұрын
If you mean Fletcher, than no. He gets that a lot. Mostly from the young ladies.
@2ndcomingofFritz
3 жыл бұрын
0:39 especially that bit, the 2 men inside could only just fit!
@ozzykulinski896
2 жыл бұрын
And then Winged Hussars arrive kzread.info/dash/bejne/d65t0tlycq22o6g.html
Really enjoy these vidoes keep up the excellent work
The mighty jingles sent me !!!! Great Video
I finally learned where the engine is. And I'm pretty amazed.
Fascinating, thank you.
these small armoured vehicles are so adorable
You guys do great work!
"My old grandmother always said, anything mechanical, give it a good bash". Whack! "Try it now". Rrrrruummmbbbllllee. "Thank you sir". -From The Longest Day, LtCmdr Colin Maud, RN, Beachmaster
@MothaLuva
4 жыл бұрын
And Mickey Rooney in the Bren Carrier...
I'll take one for 400 Quid
@eraldorh
3 жыл бұрын
In todays money thats about £28,500
@georgesears2916
3 жыл бұрын
@@eraldorh Found one going online for £27,999, guess it's retained it's value.
Good stuff, keep em comming
When i saw one of these i thought it would be great for my son & he loves it plus he no longer wets the bed but i did have to tell him to go easy on the ammo because daddy isn't made of bullets.
Brilliant Bovington! I really really like David Fletcher, you can clearly sense how knowledgeable he is and also very funny as seen in WG NA's Operation Think Tank videos (check these if you haven't yet, really, do it!). I would love if these we're a bit longer with some more detailed information and maybe showing specific stuff on the tank - but thankyou for these nonetheless! :)
Very nicely done.
Thank you please do more
Thanks.
Jolly good!
These vids are the best
excellent!
Italy considered this a superheavy tank.
Awesome, make more : )
This thing is so cool.
Looks like the British used their „British racing green“ on tanks too.
Moar....I want to see moar. I love "Tank Chats". Keep up the good work.
@nimay13
9 жыл бұрын
Just to add, could you guys make it longer? 3 minutes clip isnt enough.
cool i loe this tankette because it is so beautiful
It grew up to be a universal carrier. Has ambitions to become an APC.
I need one of these
I enjoy the sense of scale
Jingles sent me. Great vid!
I want one
@md456utb9
8 жыл бұрын
+ShawnCFarm Well, you can have a replica built like the real thing. I doubt you could find one of the originals for sale though...
@ShawnCFarm
8 жыл бұрын
+MD456utb might have to biuld one myself
@orangejoe204
8 жыл бұрын
+ShawnCFarm A David Fletcher?
@andreamontechiarini
6 жыл бұрын
Contact the British war ministry NOW! And you may get own brand new, top of the class carden Lloyd Carrier, at the economic cost of 3.000.000 bloody pounds!. OR you could become a British soldier and serve in the BEF! What are you waiting for? Contact us immediately!
@CarlosRios1
6 жыл бұрын
I also want a David Fletcher
Getting a water cooled Vickers in to place would be a real problem for the enemy, handy machine.
I think small tanks like this might see a comeback as remotely operated vehicles. In my opinion a small, fast, remotely operated modern tank with a similar size as this armed with anti tank missiles and perhaps an autocannon of some sort would be very deadly, and hard to hit and destroy if equipped with ERA and active protection systems.
@kyle857
6 жыл бұрын
OneTallOrder For sure.
@MsSomeonenew
6 жыл бұрын
Considering light tanks are never intended to take much fire I would go the other way to make it cheap an disposable, no real armor just a bucket load of ammo to abuse the enemy from a flanking position so long as you can. Then roll out another, and another,...
@cwils3867
6 жыл бұрын
There is a German tank in service called the wesiesl
@rubberwoody
6 жыл бұрын
you can make tanks much smaller with the same amount of armor when you dont have to make space for humans
@MaxHohenstaufen
6 жыл бұрын
And you could deplay hundreds of them by a small fraction of the cost of a brigade of MBTs. Probably as many as 10 could be built by the same cost of a large tank, while human life cost is near none.
I'm always interested in 1920s tanks, even if most of them are crap, because of their relevance to Call of Cthulhu. Imagine how one of these would fare against a Dark Young of Shub-Niggurath!
You know I got an Advetisement for horse handling equiptment from the US before this video and since the Traditional role of cavalry was made obsolete by the tank I find it quite amusingly ironic. Also I have never been to the US or have stood even near a horse for half a decade so I am very bewildered. I thought someone else here would find that funny, anyway good video chaps.
I wish countries would have decided that this size of tank was actually effective, and that there were much more of them today.
love these videos. A pleassure to listen to David. More, more! :-)
Some comparison with the Universal "Bren" Carrier would have been good.
Developped by the Poles into TKS an equivalent of the modern Weasel - when armed with a 20mm heavy MG could cope with German Mki and II - unfortunately they were still in insufficient number...
@Briselance
6 жыл бұрын
Sergeant Roman Orlik proved a TKS armed with a high-velocity 20 mm auto-cannon could, with good placement and appropriate tactics, do away with LT vz 35 and LT vz 38 (at least as long as the latter was not of the version E and later).
@Briselance
6 жыл бұрын
Besides, the Polish Army was still sorely lacking a worthy fighter plane to fight the Luftwaffe on equal grounds. Thanks to some top-brass who thought general Douhet was right. :-(
Id love o ride one to school
reminds me of a cv-33
bem loko
How about one on the Universal carrier?
How about doing the light tanks prior to the Mk VI?
Mr. Fletcher, You are almost as good a narrator as Mr. Jingles.
The amazing mustache
I would have so much fun with a little tank like that. It sucks to be poor.
I am a bit dissapointed that he didn't explain why Carden and Loyd needed to be carried. Why wouldn't they walk like rest of the bunch?
@Masada1911
Жыл бұрын
They were nobility and thus didn’t like walking.
That mustach O.o
Must have been hard at first not feeling ridiculous crewing one of these, lol. Beats lugging around a machine gun, though.
Were the circles on the front a target for enemy gunners?
I think I saw one of them in the Imperial War Museum but you couldn't get me in one.
@SIXPACFISH
8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Paige Looks like a death trap to me. Too easy to get burned on engine or caught in some moving part. Not to mention the heat and fumes.
@twirlipofthemists3201
6 жыл бұрын
Beats walking.
I wonder if it could have been developed into a tracked Dingo?
Quite cute, that. No one really knew what to make of mechanized troops back then.
Video length: 3:03 how very British
This is like the Bren Carrier's little Brother. And that's saying something.
👍😀
It looks like an ASU-57 with a machine gun.
My country(thailand) also have this one but they call "ไอ้แอ้ด" or "i-ad*.
This is a bit like what eventually became the Vickers-Armstrong Bren Carrier. Before they had Jeeps, to carry a Machinegun over there, and set it up, quickly. Because they looked somewhat like little tanks, people wanted to use them as tankettes, when they really weren't, nor do they have any of that capability. They have one job: Carry a machinegun (And fire it on the move.) That's about it, however the Universal Carrier. Well, says it right on the tin, doesn't it?
@Psiberzerker
6 жыл бұрын
There's a reason why we have 1/4 ton pickup trucks with pintle machinegun "Technicals" the world over. They're simple, and they work.
It's a golf cart.
"Puny tank?"
This tankette makes me wonder about what the benefits would be to use this vehicle instead of let's say a jeep with a machine gun mounted on it. Both are not really intended to be at the frontline and lightly armored or not armored at all. Surely the benefits of having a faster and more versatile vehicle like a jeep would be greater than to use a mg carrier like the Carden Loyd Carrier?
@MrBandholm
9 жыл бұрын
And that is why the Jeep is adopted... But in really the universal carrier, in some way the next step to this, could drive where the jeep could not, and it were abel to offer some protection, and carry a bit more. But you are right, and as mr Fletcher said, they had the because they were cheep
01:10 : "They're the whole package" What does it mean here, please? I've looked for the expression's meaning on Internet, but the context here doesn't match the definition I've read.
@Briselance
7 жыл бұрын
"(usually with the) All the elements constituting a whole or occurring as a unit." I love the wiktionary. And any dictionary, anyway.
Carden Loyd Carrier or Kattenkrad?
Kind of like a Kettenkrad.
@Masada1911
Жыл бұрын
A little bit yes
Just a point to note. I understand fully the need to put mesh over open vehicles to exclude public players but could they please be black. White makes it too difficult to see inside. Have enjoyed all your subsequent tank chats and look forward to many more. P. S. You will not remember but I met you as a young Lieutenant RAEME Technical Research Officer from the RAAC Museum Puckapunyal. You graciously allowed me to do photo studies of the vehicles. It was on my honeymoon from here in Australia with my new wife taking notes. By the second day she sat in the car listening to Wimbledon. 😏
@blackdeath4eternity
5 жыл бұрын
thats quite the little story.
@kellyknott4201
5 жыл бұрын
blackdeath4eternity I’m quite the little story teller. 😉
@blackdeath4eternity
5 жыл бұрын
@@kellyknott4201 i hope your wife agreed/agrees :P
@kellyknott4201
5 жыл бұрын
blackdeath4eternity Touche
You could buy a small house in London for £350 in the 1930s.
is this the tank that the Russians purchased to create the T-27 tankette?
@jackdooley7179
9 жыл бұрын
yes, it was, but the Russian made many changes such as adding more armour to the top and changing the machine gun to the 7.62 mm DT.
@francis9469
9 жыл бұрын
thought so =)
@jackdooley7179
9 жыл бұрын
Tankie Frankie the same design was procured by many other countries, as well such as Japan and even Bolivia.
@Gracz87
9 жыл бұрын
Also Italians for CV 33/35 and Poles for their TK's and TKS's.
It's said that these tankettes were unbearable for the crew in the summer...
@gilbertsakay2939
7 жыл бұрын
cute to PLAY with it
Sad that they actually have to put the cover on it
that looks more like a Carden Loyd tankette.
@dubsy1026
7 жыл бұрын
it is the same think
400 quids, is that like $5. They are so cute.