France was right... Europe needs their own defense industry

@YourBonesInMyDresser

6 ай бұрын

Racist sexist homophobic propaganda.

@ianworley8169

5 ай бұрын

Obviously why France withdrew from the Euro Fighter programme because they wanted to be in charge, rather than work collaboratively.

@Acres9

5 ай бұрын

@@ianworley8169 You can't work collaboratively with germany, sadly they will try to scam you at some point, it's now obvious for everyone in France.

@didierlemoine6771

5 ай бұрын

Nuclear and carrier :)@@ianworley8169

@sekoundiaye3239

5 ай бұрын

​​@@ianworley8169nope! Absolutly not. It's because the other countrys didn't want a carrier landing capable aircraft, wich was fundamental for France. Get your fact rights.

I like Rafale. Beautiful, very capable multi-role fighter/bomber. Very elegant

@filemonpuente1766

2 ай бұрын

👍👌

@richardhoyau936

8 күн бұрын

Omnirole

Both r fantastic fighters but Rafale is the best omni-role :)

@filemonpuente1766

Ай бұрын

👍👌

For the Rafale, it's design to be use as well on aircraft carrier and it's the only Nato fighter jet that can land on an US carrier. Another point, it's made for deep nuclear strike from the beginning for the French nuclear doctrine. As for dog fight, trying to do that at high altitude its suicidal in actual warfare, the rafale is more suited as most dog fight will be at low altitude and need better maneuverability

@dutchtravelsociety352

11 ай бұрын

I think that the nato planes like F18 and F35 are also able to land on US carriers. But outside US planes this might be the only plane currently produced by a nato country capable to land on a US carrier.

@Triggatra4258

11 ай бұрын

​@Dutch Travel Society OBVIOUSLY the F-18 and F-35 can land on US carriers.... they are US AIRCRAFT!!! DUH 😂😅

@NATObait

11 ай бұрын

Along with other aircraft the T 45 Goshawk is the aircraft carrier version of the BAE Hawk and that is fully carrier capable obviously. The AV 8B was used on USMC carriers and Spanish/ Italian carriers are still using them.

@aleksandartrost772

11 ай бұрын

​@@Triggatra4258😂

@aleksandartrost772

11 ай бұрын

​@@NATObait😮

1:18 The Eurofighter was *not* meant to be a replacement for the Tornado. On the contrary, it was meant to complement UK/Germany/Italy's Tornados A/G performance with A/A capabilities. (And on the other side, France had a very capable A/A platform in the Mirage 2000 and wanted more A/G.) 2:15 Other commentators have already noted that your Rafale export list is seriously outdated. 3:00 These cost figures are fanciful at best (read: bullshit). The Eurofighter is definitely not 25% cheaper than the Rafale. RUSI's Justin Bronk estimates the Rafale to be slightly cheaper than the Eurofighter in real-world terms. 3:45 Bullshit again. Both Rafale and Eurofighter are so-called tailless deltas, in that the pitch control surfaces are integrated in the trailing edge of the wing and not in separate control surfaces. In no way were either of those designed without a vertical plane beyond the earliest concept stages (I do believe one of the Dassault ACX models had no vertical plane... but some had two). 6:00 Should be noted that SCALP and Storm Shadow are the same weapon. 7:50 Both EJ2000 and M88 are afterburning turbofans. And the Rafale's service ceiling is definitely higher than 42kft. 8:25 Both Rafale and EF *can* have AESA radars, with similar capabilities. It should be noted that all Rafales can be brought up to the latest standard with RBE2, while not all EF tranches can be equipped with Captor-E. 8:30 EF and Rafale come from the same development programme, that EF's first flight happened later (due to longer development) doesn't make it a newer aircraft, especially since both have been continuously developped in the past 30 years. 8:35 "Rafale is more agile"? Only at lower altitudes, not a general truth. 9:00 EF burns *a lot* more fuel than Rafale in most flight profiles. Since it doesn't carry more fuel, I am curious how it is a better choice for long-range missions.

@lucaj8131

11 ай бұрын

It's as if chatGPT wrote the script...

@vikassm

10 ай бұрын

This comment is more interesting than the video 🤣🤣🤣

@rokritos2670

10 ай бұрын

​@@lucaj8131I think you're spot on. The script shows all the inconsistencies ChatGPT is known to show. The only thing missing is the usual ChatGPT spiel that the facts provided are accurate as of its training data cut-off date of November 2021 😂. The channel's content producers should be cross checking their facts and not be lazy. Viewers nowadays are tech savy and definitely not naive!

@greycorbie224

9 ай бұрын

In any way an excellent comment!

@loperano1984

9 ай бұрын

You have written a bible to sell us the Rafale... the Rafale is inferior to the eurofighter several steps behind in everything... how are you going to compare the technological development of 4 or 5 countries with only that of France? So why does France also have a Eurofighter? They should support their industry and have their rafales...

Traditionally France has been a more reliable supplier than the countries making the Typhoon. A bit of US pressure or even pressure from human rights groups and you may be denied spares for the Typhoon.

@timphillips9954

11 ай бұрын

Traditionally Britain has lead the way in aircraft design

@sameerthakur720

11 ай бұрын

@@timphillips9954 True, but countries would prefer to buy from someone with an independent foreign policy. Otherwise, US sanctions you and your supply of spares from your supplier(Germany or UK) stops.

@EnglishScripter

10 ай бұрын

@@sameerthakur720 France is constantly on fire though in riots.

@mathieu722

10 ай бұрын

​@@timphillips9954 The first Western European fighter to exceed Mach 1 : the Super Mystère (France) The first Western European combat aircraft to exceed Mach 2 : Mirage III (France) And also: Mirage G8 02 (a mirage with the same type of wing as the F-14s) made its maiden flight at Istres, on July 13, 1972, piloted by Jean-Marie Saget. For its first anniversary - and its 74th sortie - on July 13, 1973, it achieved the highest speed ever for an aircraft in Western Europe: Mach 2.34 at 42,000 ft. France has lead the way in modern aircraft design and also the oldest, since it was the major air force in WW1, and the first operationnal airforce in the world (The first aviation force in the world was the Aviation Militaire of the French Army formed in 1910, which eventually became l'Armée de l'Air officially around 1934.) And when lot of people know Germany for making the first jet during WW2. Less know that France developped the Ramjet (or "Statoréacteur") in 1913, planes of this time were not even capable to handle it.

@rickwalker2

10 ай бұрын

@@mathieu722 It's all a bit of a moot point, as most major players can claim innovation. Britain can claim the jet engine, first production aircraft anywhere in the world with a thrust to weight of greater than 1:1, the first commercial jet airliner in the world to enter service, the first aircraft in the world capable of super cruise, the first VSTOL aircraft in the world, the first allied jet fighter of the Second World War etc etc. The US have their own innovations too, as do others. France has the oldest airforce, Britain has the oldest independent airforce. See what I'm doing here?

Rafale: Designed for the navy and is able to land on carriers. Designed to carry strategic nuke missiles (ASMP). Proven combat experience in Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. True multi role fighter designed for air superiority and ground attack. No comparison.

Did you use chatgpt for the text? It sounds like something written by chatgpt

Please update your information: the Rafale has been exported to Egypt, Qatar, AND India, Croatia, Greece, Indonesia, while UAE ordered 80 Rafales. 3 more countries are interested: Serbia, Argentina, Thailand. On the other hand, all "customers" of the Typhoon are only the countries that manufacture it; it gives an idea of which aircraft has the best world reputation among experts. Period!

@ahmedaraf8188

11 ай бұрын

France gives political advantage Eurofighter don't. End of discussion

@kunlunpassagerduvent9498

11 ай бұрын

@@ahmedaraf8188 Rafale is the Best Omnirole Fighter ever made: "The power of One": Among the high end performances in all roles. It should have been sold much more because US has really given political Advantages and cheating and geopolitics pressures each time in competitions with rafale and Rafale has always finished finalist in purchase competitions everywhere....

@ahmedaraf8188

11 ай бұрын

​@@kunlunpassagerduvent9498 Rafale went against F-35 which it can't compete with in any field except dogfight which is the most unlikely thing to happen in modern aerial warfare. It only was sold to countries that couldn't get their hands on F-35. Rafale is a good fighter but simply outclassed by fifth gen fighters.

@ahmedaraf8188

11 ай бұрын

@@kunlunpassagerduvent9498 it's also more expensive than F-35

@pascalf764

11 ай бұрын

@@ahmedaraf8188 rafale program 40 billions f35 1000,1100,1200,.….... Billions😱

The Rafale has consistently outdone the Eurofighter in international tender competitions.

@davidmacdonald1695

10 ай бұрын

Typhoon easily outperforms Rafale. Only through bribery have they won orders, see recent India deal for evidence. Typhoon is the better aircraft.

@TheOneAndOnlySame

10 ай бұрын

It's a better plane in ALL aspects. Lol

@mitchjames9350

9 ай бұрын

It’s better in multirole while the Euro Fighter is edges it out in air to air.

@TheOneAndOnlySame

9 ай бұрын

@@mitchjames9350 not at all. Don't know where you got this idea

@NATObait

9 ай бұрын

The Rafale received an AESA upgrade first and is ITAR free add that to it being 5 - 10% cheaper and the formula is a winner compared to Eurofighter. Other factors like Germany blocking a 48 aircraft sale to Saudi Arabia harmed it's production and reputation. I guarantee France won't allow Germany to block FCAS sales ( it will have a full production ability and restrictions in the small print ) . The Gripen E is not a poor relation and Brazil will be able to reduce production price ever more competitively. So European manufacturers have three offerings each capable and effective, not one!!!

One of the dilemmas the European nations had when designing the European fighter jet was also the air intakes. France argued that having them separated by putting them on each side of the fuselage would increase survivability. However, the other nations disagreed and didn’t think it mattered which is why you can see on the typhoon both intakes are stuck together under the fuselage. If debris were to get in it or say cannon rounds were to hit it. The typhoon would most likely be disabled. The rafale would have a standing chance in that matter.

@NATObait

6 ай бұрын

The position of the intakes are always a calculated risk. Having intakes on the sides will indeed mitigate the failure of both engines to a degree but not having variable intakes will also be a risk as the service ceiling on Rafale is 52,000 ft v EF 65,000ft and weapons like Meteor have increased range due to inertia/ gravity. Also pulling high g turns causes less airflow into the outside engine intake on the Rafale compared to the EFT. We are now seeing the growth of ' Glide Weapons ' and launch from height is fundamental and ranges of 100+ miles is achievable with cost advantage over powered versions. Speed is your friend, height is your friend......a basic fact taught to all novice pilots.

@denislaouenan5553

6 ай бұрын

@@NATObait France should have asked you what they needed in a fighter jet, but seems Navy yards should employ you also to sell frigates. With all that knowledge and competency you shouldn't waste your time explaining things to a bunch of frog eaters. Or is there political agendas and alliances of which you were not made aware?

@LastyFr

3 ай бұрын

​@@NATObaitNo one care about the G pulled cause when you carry missile, bomb, and fuel tank, all fighter jet limit themself the G the pilot can pull, so on combat, the design of the Rafale is way better. But indeed for an airshow the Typhon will perform better. Now with thoses kind of info, you can find yourself wich one is the most usefull to do what its made to do.

Typhoon: Air superiority Rafale: Multi-role

@xenomorphelv4265

11 ай бұрын

that's why France left the EF2000 project, they wanted something better for multi-tasking and carrier compatible.

@flyblu80

11 ай бұрын

Typhoon is interceptor, better engine, rafele is better for radar (however last typhoon Spain and Germany have update with new radar), rafele have better thermal signature ecc, however they are two quite unsuccessful planes due to high maintenance costs. when we talk about the number of aircraft in operation I feel like crying. you want super planes then there is maintenance to be done. Otherwise build them with lower maintenance costs.

@XR190190

11 ай бұрын

And yet in all air superiority trainings, the Rafale always won by far against the Typhoon

@SW-et6xj

11 ай бұрын

@@XR190190 unlikely Rafale has the advantage in close range dog fighting but not in overall air superiority has the typhoon has a way better air-air loadout

@xenomorphelv4265

11 ай бұрын

@@SW-et6xj MICA IR & ER are at least on pair with Asraam and Amraam.

Thanks for this video and this balanced comparison. RAFALE was designed to be a highly versatile fighter for the Air Force AND the navy and as you mentioned it is combat proven. The current F4 standard and the incoming standard F5 make it even better.

These two plane are remarquable showcases of Europe knowledge in advanced warfare tech and aviation , but the Rafale is also the answer to the UE that they'll keep work by themselves, no matter what , no matter when . We keep our weaponry independence (except for the hk 416 ...)

@Jugement

7 ай бұрын

We could to a lot more if KMW and Rheinmetal werent so greedy however. Pushing for more than 50% on the MGCS while still developping Leopard on the side, threatning to leave France with no extra exports and less cashback on its own orders after the tech transfer, was pure German greed on full display

@gilespeche6025

5 ай бұрын

This hk416 sucks

Rafale is an all rounder. It does most things perfectly. From air superiority and agility to stealth and bomber/strike role, it’s adept at operating from land and sea both. An amazing piece of flying metal.

@terrywainman6050

9 ай бұрын

How can it be air superiority fighter when its to slow and its service ceiling is rubbish 51,000 ft ish.

@aymedr1692

9 ай бұрын

​@@terrywainman6050we are in 2023 not in the cold war why it nees to go has more than mach 2 ??

@corentinjosse3269

8 ай бұрын

what do you mean by to slow ? no one can dogfight at mach 2 (to much G but thats one of many example)@@terrywainman6050

@NATObait

8 ай бұрын

@@aymedr1692 Mach 1.8 is enough as Meteor goes M 4.5 . F35 is slower ( M 1.6 ) but it detects you first and you see nothing before 50k by which time it is looking for its next target. In Ukraine if you had to take out a S400 site you would want to be in F35 and if it was SU 35 you would want to be in F22 both are top predators .

@user-wz7ef1fv4m

8 ай бұрын

I would pick rafael over EF. However I'm not sure about rafale's air superiority and stealth abilities

the rafale can also carry the nuclear weapon, land on an aircraft carrier

@H.P206

Ай бұрын

the french were only in this fighter program because they wanted to steal and copy the research of the other countries

Rafale is the best and India uses it for its Air Force and now for Rafale M for its aircraft carrier beating F18 Hornet,SAAB and Typhoon

@NATObait

10 ай бұрын

Rafale M comes with certain disadvantages; 1. Rafale M won't fit the lifts on both carriers ( it will need a redesign ) 2. It's more expensive to buy and fly. 3.. Can't pass information with P8 subhuters at super fast speeds But it comes with advantages like: 1..ITAR. Free 2. Quick delivery times ( French AF gave away slots ). 3. Proven and reliable

@davidmacdonald1695

10 ай бұрын

Typhoon is best aircraft. Saudi and Qatar chose it due to its superiority over Rafale when in competition. India only chose it due to bribery which is currently under investigation.

@justmrcrow

10 ай бұрын

​​@@davidmacdonald1695o, you are wrong. Qatar have chosen boths Rafale and Eurofighter, and Saudi tought about buying 72 Rafales. India chose it because unlike the Eurofighter, the Rafale M can land on aircraft carriers. Also, I don't remember the Eurofighter "shooting down" a F-22, unlike the Rafale, in simulations

@captainobvious8530

10 ай бұрын

@@NATObait Typhoon is more expensive than rafale

@NATObait

10 ай бұрын

@@justmrcrow Qatar bought F15E , Eurofighters and Rafale just in case sanctions or offence was caused! Saudi are pushing for 48 more Eurofighters now that Germany is ready to lift it's sanctions. India had a fly off between Super Hornet and Rafale M but no final choice has been made. Rumours circulate that Rafale can't fit in Indian carrier lifts as it can't fold its wings but Air Force want the Navy to buy them . As for Rafale winning against F22 , join the queue as F15, F16, Eurofighter, F35 and even an A10 Warthog was spotted with a silhouette of a F22 painted on the nose. Basically it happens in dissimilar training. Before you say " Rafale is the only Omnirole Fighter " F18 Super Hornet is more capable as it comes in a 2 seat Growler version and can fold its wings with missiles attached.

Rafale is so beautiful .....and so deadly.

so probably the rafale is the more effective one

@timmurphy5541

11 ай бұрын

At this level it would be about particular situations and tactics. The height and speed advantage of the Eurofighter directly impacts the Meteor missile's performance at long range for example. Unfortunately once you attract a Rafale fanboi the debate is over. - it ends up being a debate about nationality comparing past failings of one platform against future capabilities of another. Any concessions or attempts at fairness one might make are eaten up but here is one for example: this video is unfair to talk about the Eurofighter E-Scan radar as only Qatar and Kuwait have it in their aircraft in an early form (Mk0). On the other hand it doesn't mention 2 important EF weapons (ASRAAM and Paveway IV).

@pitmarkovic4545

11 ай бұрын

Not realy the New electronic Wareface together with Sweden!Twice Multi Role Fighter!In Dogfight directly the Rafael better Role,this is only that to beet Typhon Eurofighter

@NATObait

11 ай бұрын

​@@timmurphy5541 Brimstone is available on RAF Typhoon ( 18 carried ) , Marte ER anti ship missiles ( up to 5 can be carried ) . IR missiles IRIS T, ASRAAM, AIM 9X. and AMRAAM or Meteor for BVR. . Basically EF has a capable load out and soon to be introduced Litening 5 targeting pod with synthetic aperture radar ( 100k range ) will give a good side sweep for allocation of targets of opportunity.. 2 improved AESA radars are due and a Japanese/UK AESA Meteor type missile is under development.

@timmurphy5541

11 ай бұрын

@@NATObait some of this is future capability. e.g. marte has been test fired but I can't find anything to say it's an operational capability yet. Qatar and Kuwait have ASEA but everyone else is waiting for MK1 or MK2. Personally I think the whole thing is hard to judge from the outside. All one can say for sure is that the EF nations were asleep for a while and France used that time but EF woke up eventually and started doing a few things.

@NATObait

11 ай бұрын

@@timmurphy5541 Marte ER was delivered to the Qatari Air Force as the launch customer and is in service 2022. Italy have yet to integrate it on the Italian EF ( they have tested it obviously ) but have used it on helicopters. The latest Hensoldt AESA is due to be ready for the next batch of German/ Spanish orders probably 2025 delivery. The UK type is a 2028+ delivery.

The major difference between these aircraft isn't a 'top trumps' comparison - it's in their design philosophy. The Rafale was designed primarily for agility, lower altitude performance and strike. The Typhoon was designed primarily for raw power, high altitude performance and air-to-air interception. But the venn diagram of their capabilities is very overlapping - they are both highly capable multi-role aircraft and the more they develop, they closer they become.

@NATObait

9 ай бұрын

Rafale was designed with fixed air intakes hence it has height limitations. It also was designed with close coupled canards for low speed deck landings. Eurofighter was designed to give good Transonic agility and more powerful engines to offer better acceleration and has variable intakes to allow height advantage. Hence both designs have compromise built in. It must not be forgotten that Dassault wanted a cheaper option for better export potential.

@Hot_guy267

9 ай бұрын

Not fully true. Rafales have not that altitude limitations in real life. Its a lot better. Remember, it is chosen by Indian Air Force for its tremendous performance in the highest battle ground (over the Himalayan mountains) of the world.

@NATObait

9 ай бұрын

@@Hot_guy267 Himalayan Mountains are all under 30,000 ft hence way lower than a Boeing 737 climbs to for its local hop, hence flying above that height is nothing special, Rafale can zoom climb above its normal operational ceiling but it can't cruise above that . Eurofighter has variable intakes so it can ' cruise ' at a higher altitude. It maybe a useful or insignificant ability but a difference non the less.

@NATObait

5 ай бұрын

The Rafale was designed from the back of an envelope to fulfill key parameters. 1. Both Carrier Capable and Conventional 2. Capable of dropping a Nuclear Bomb 3. Commercially affordable to typical market customers. It sounds simple but that is the basis for the design. The Rafale always had to have low speed ability to land on a Medium sized Carrier, the other two desires could be achieved from the first fundamental position. The Rafale has close coupled canards to maintain lift at carrier landing speeds and less swept wings for the same reason, but that gives it the ability to lift more weapons weight than Eurofighter can .

@prhodan59

5 ай бұрын

@@NATObait .everyone forgets that the Rafale still has its big brothers the Mirage 2000. Faster than the Typhoon with the new updates on the Mirage 2000 it remains an excellent interception plane and it is a real interceptor.

Now it’s Rafale standard F4 DGAC is planning to go on F5

@johndoe-cd9vt

5 ай бұрын

and F4 can detect any stealth aircraft with infrared radars... the stealth era is 100% over.

I think the 2 are complementary I am french and I like fact that our allies have a good aircraft like the eurofighter.

@frankgunner8967

11 ай бұрын

Agree working side by side protecting Europe is the aim i think they'll complement each other plus us Brits have brought a load of different F-35 variants for that extra protection. : )

@arno222444

11 ай бұрын

@@frankgunner8967 nah mate the f35 is just money wasted :-) that said with all the money you have saved with the Brexit you can fund the NHS and buy some f35 :-D

@ianrichards909

11 ай бұрын

@@arno222444- The Rafale and the Typhoon are pure junk, 1970s technology… that’s why the Rafale and the Typhoon keep losing to the F-35 in Switzerland, Finland, Germany, Belgium, Norway, Netherlands, Australia, Italy, United Kingdom, Denmark, Poland, Israel, Czech Republic, Canada, Japan, South Korea and on and on… 😁😁😁

@elmazmaliante2010

11 ай бұрын

Both are f16 with 2 engines and canards

@MrSebfrench76

11 ай бұрын

That's the only thing that matters.

Rafale as well has an AESA radar, can also fire laser guided bombs, and you forgot the front cameras integrated on the Rafale above radar dome

Well, Rafale is more manoeuvrable, can land on a carrier, can transport and fire nuclear weapons, has better radar, can carry more weapons and was always ranked ahead of the Typhoon in international events or evaluations. It's pretty obvious who's the winner here. PS : the Rafale's exportations are twice the Typhoon's.

Got to admit, the French know how to make beautiful designs.

The head on view of the typhoon is a thing of beauty 😍

Outdated information about the RAFALE...

Rafale IS the best. That's all. 🤘🏻

@EnglishScripter

10 ай бұрын

And why?

@jacoblasoi9403

29 күн бұрын

​@@EnglishScripterEven though the Typhoon has Air superiority and advanced avionics that makes it efficient in the air ,while the Rafale misses some specs to match with the Euro ,Rafale is designed for Multi role purpose has great agility and manuverbilty with good specs on avionics

The Rafale designation pod is now the Talios, a largely upgraded equipment. Typhoons use Meteor and IRIS-T missiles beside US-made missiles. Prices should not be compared because they can vary widely. Overall, Typhoons are better air superiority aircrafts, that's what they were designed for initially. Rafale is better at air to ground missions, particularly the two-seater version. But both are very competent multirole and can do both air to air and air to ground missions. Where Rafale has an edge is in overall maintenance and availability; this is a trademark of Dassault aircrafts and this has been particularly optimised with the Rafale; Eurofighter was developed by several companies and countries, so it is more complicated (and more costly) to maintain. An additional advantage for the Rafale is that it will be continuously upgraded for at least the next 30 years, so countries using it are sure to have their planes maintained and upgraded if they wish so. The future of the Eurofighter is not so clear.

@OutlawsDead

11 ай бұрын

If Typhoon was a better air to air fighter then Rafale would not beat in every competitions or training...

@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh

11 ай бұрын

@@OutlawsDead Competitions include many criteria !

@emiliopicma7124

10 ай бұрын

Y creo olvidaron mencionar la capacidad del captor E de guerra electrónica o jamming de radares enemigos, también olvidan el sistema pretorian das y en la comparación no mencionan todas las armas que puede usar, pero eso ya lo aclara usted así como que son aviones con propósitos diferentes. En cuanto al futuro de los eurofighter con la evolución LTE parece que esta aseguradas las líneas de producción y evolución para la vida útil.

@aimgorge

10 ай бұрын

Rafale has superior radar, superior range, superior stealth and superior EW than Eurofighter. How can you conclude Eurofighter is a better air superiority aircraft? 🤔

@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh

10 ай бұрын

@@aimgorge Regarding radar, the answer is a bit more complex. Right now, only one third of the French Rafale are equipped with the AESA radar. Export variants of the Eurofighter have the first version of the captor E AESA radar, and new versions are in development for Germany/Spain and the UK. stealth are roughly equivalent in combat configuration (planes don't usually fly clean...). The Eurofighter edge in air superiority is linked to its better speed at high altitude (hence it can launch missiles with a faster start, and thus a better killing range) and superior air to air load-out. It is important to compare equivalent version too, but if you do so, because the Eurofighter was conceived for that role, it probably still is a better air superiority fighter, but not by much I agree.

India have also rafale ❤ rafale is love

@StewartWalker-hy1eo

11 ай бұрын

Cheap

@ayush8951

11 ай бұрын

@@StewartWalker-hy1eo what about ur country cheap

@Dangermonkey1000

10 ай бұрын

@@StewartWalker-hy1eo ......cheap and best

@StewartWalker-hy1eo

10 ай бұрын

@@Dangermonkey1000 when they come up against certain airforces the truth comes out not just the odd pilot

@Dangermonkey1000

10 ай бұрын

@@StewartWalker-hy1eo ......like F117 ???

2:15 "Rafale has also been exported to Egypt and Qatar" and GREECE, and INDIA, and INDONESIA, and CROATIA, and UNITED EMIRATES ! I don't know what the outcome of the video will be but the author already falls short. It's a significant factor to consider that many countries have chosen Rafale over Typhoon - considering France alone has less Geopolitical power than UK, Germany and Spain combined.

@didierlemoine6771

9 ай бұрын

and Italy :)

@edouardmontfort7816

9 ай бұрын

@@didierlemoine6771 no

@didierlemoine6771

9 ай бұрын

@@edouardmontfort7816 yes

@edouardmontfort7816

9 ай бұрын

@@didierlemoine6771 thought you meant Rafale was exported to Italy.

@hervelesage5286

4 ай бұрын

C'est surtout pour évité itar américain le typhon est équipé de composant américain et que du jour au lendemain ils peuvent êre en rupture de piéce.

Greece also has Rafale in her Hellenic Air Force command (F3R) as of 2022.

RAFALE: version Marine : oui RAFALE : air - mer missiles EXOCET AM39 + nuclear strike mission : ASMP.A RAFALE: points d'emports = 14 RAFALE: DASSAULT - SECMA - THALES - NEXTER - MBDA(France) = 100% France

@francescomangili6660

10 ай бұрын

MBDA is only 37% french

@ShinoxSturmreiterDesTode

10 ай бұрын

@@francescomangili6660 MBDA France is MBDA France

@octavia200

9 ай бұрын

​@@francescomangili6660MBDA was Matra before which was 100% French so MBDA is technically French company

From mylitary test repports available never see Rafale below F35 and Eurofighter and this in all domains of flight and of technology.

The final decision on which is the better aircraft, is the one which has sold the most. Austria also operates the Typhoon.

@denislaouenan5553

6 ай бұрын

Selling weapons is not only a matter of quality but for a big part is also a matter of governments agenda and alliances. Ok and a big bit of bribes. As for Austria to purchase Typhoons well one would expect any European country with no investment in Dassault would. Or would have to...

EXCELLENT presentation. Cogratulations, keep on working. About of which of the two are better, you said it: each country has different necessities and requirements. Both aircraft are the best of the 4.5 generation.

I think the Rafale is better multi-role as EF was designed to work with Tornados. At least initially. Now Tornado is retiring EF is getting upgraded.

@joshafc41

5 ай бұрын

The typhoon has already replaced the tornado's capabilities for the RAF. The Tornados were retired long ago.

"The Rafale has been exported to Egypt and Qatar" and India, United Arab Emirates, Greece, Croatia, Indonesia, with serious prospects such as Kazakstan, Uzbekistan, Serbia, Irak, Columbia... Between 2015 and 2021, 156 Rafale were sold abroad, vs 0 Eurofighter.

@oskng

3 ай бұрын

Srbija nikada nece kupiti rafal, zato sto je srbija genocidna drzava koja podrzava rusiju.

Doesn't matter too much which machine is better, I just think the Eurofighter looks more evil / sexy than the Rafale

From what I can understand was we had an AG capable aircraft in the Tornado but needed a Air superiority fighter to compliment it here comes the Typhoon it wasn't ever meant to replace the Tornado but has time went by they developed the Typhoon to become a multirole fighter with there been different variants for different tasks now the French went the opposite way they had a air superiority fighter in the mirage but lacked a proper ground attacker thats why they went there separate way I don't think they would have if there were plans originally for the Typhoon to be a multirole fighter

@michelayad9479

2 ай бұрын

OK mais le Rafale a été conçu dès le début pour évoluer, alors que le EF non et n’oublié pas que Rafale a toujours été supérieur à l’EF lors d’exercices de l’otan.Le Rafale a eu le radar dernière génération plusieurs années avant l’EF et le Rafale a la meilleure avionique au monde.Le EF est plus rapide et il n’y que cela qu’il a de meilleur face au Rafale. Pour les longues missions le Rafale est meilleure car plus facile à piloter, il consomme moins, il est plus fiable et facile à maintenir bref le Rafale est largement meilleur que le EF.Le Rafale peut faire toutes les missions contrairement au EF et ça c'est un très bon investissement pour les pays qui l’achètent surtout qu’il est moins cher. En conclusion ce comparatif, comme d’habitude chez les Anglo-saxons est caduque.

👍El Rafale🇨🇵 Frances,Moderno,Hermoso y poderoso.El mejor multirol del Mundo.

@phlm9038

20 күн бұрын

True, but some in the comment section don't want to hear it.

Couldn't be bothered to list ASRAAM or Paveway IV for the Typhoon eh?

@ParkerScum

11 ай бұрын

Not to mention Meteor and IRIS-T.

@LondonSteveLee

10 ай бұрын

Or Meteor or IRIS-T!

Exceptional jets that are among the best ones worldwide! Very soon, around first half of the 2024. and in 2025. 12 of these beauties are gonna be delivered and become part of the Croatian Air force elite strike force capable for wide range of tasks from air policing, projecting air superiority to strategic ground attacks. I hope our government in future decides for atleast another one or two squadrons of Rafales since unfortunately we're living in more and more challenging times. Well done France and Dessault Aviation!

@oskng

3 ай бұрын

Evo ih vec 5 u nasem vlasnistvu. Jedva cekam proslavu oluje, pa da ih vidimo kako u formaciji lete. Jedino sto bi ipak ostavio barem jedan mig 21 (kockicu) cisto radi toga da se vidi napredak, a i zbog toga sto je "kockica" postala vise kao simbol i ne bi zalio novce za njeno odrzavanje i da bude u vrhunskom stanju. Pozdrav

In every competition, the rafale was better than the typhoon like in Switzerland, south, Korea, Finland, Indonesia... And those who said the typhoon is cheaper, is in a certain way normal, because more typhoon were built so there is an economy of scale

From the title I was hoping for an update based on the latest variants of both aircraft, but I was disappointed to find all the information is dated. The lastest Typhoons are rolling off with AEsa radars. Also Typhoon and Rafale can carry Meteor. Most air to air would be resolved BVR so the avionics and missile are more important than the performance characteristics of the aircraft. Also to answer the comment of those who point to the lists of acquitting countries I strongly suspect that this has more to do with politics. The French are more likely to be independent of American pressure (many components and BAe is heavily integrated with American defence interests), not to mention Germany's propensity to tie itself in knots when it comes to supplying arms

In the realm of military aircraft, these two are _the_ major competitors? How can you be wrong in the first 30 seconds?

Both planes are capable. On the Typhoon, the canard wings obstruct the view of the ground because they are just below the cabin. This can be inconvenient for certain ground attack operations. On the Rafale, they are placed further back, allowing direct observation. On the other hand, Rafale pilots indicate that they would like a slightly more powerful engine. In particular, when the plane is carrying a large load. Another advantage of the Rafale is that it exists in a navalized version. It is interesting to note that, so far, in the majority of combat exercises, the Rafales have won every time against the Typhoons.

Everyone talking about which is the best but let's be honest, the EF is ugly asf.

Despite the previous comments by so-called "experts", Raphael is a teenage mutant ninja turtle, and Typhoon in a kind of teabag I believe.

@originalhuman great video on both aircraft

Great video ! Everything pretty much on point except the Cost. EF Typhoon is now more expensive than Rafale.

Actually the Typhoon can reach a maximum speed of Mach 2,35.

@mattgummerson8370

11 ай бұрын

@@nathangandonn3324 is this a comparison of the Typhoon and mirage???

@NATObait

11 ай бұрын

@@nathangandonn3324 Can Mirage 2000 reach Mach 2.35 ? I don't think so.

@NATObait

11 ай бұрын

It's the Transonic envelope that is the most important and Eurofighter can maintain 9g turns while carrying missiles and 2 fuel tanks constantly to Mach 1•2 . In war mode the engines can deliver 69k of thrust without Afterburner ( not far behind Rafale in afterburner mode 75k ) . Rafale has better low speed handling as it is designed for carrier deck landing but that only gives an advantage at air shows . Of course Eurofighter Typhoon is more expensive due to multiple production lines but the FCAS is destined to copy that scenario.

@nathangandonn3324

11 ай бұрын

@@mattgummerson8370 yes

@stevetrott1253

11 ай бұрын

Typhoon s weight to thrust immense Rafale is not in that league The typhoon was designed to quickly get to a high ceiling and deal with the opposition from that point . Actual top speed is irrelevant , so are cross vertical When your likely to shooting down planes from over 100 miles away

It's not about the aircraft, it's about the pilots!!!

@collectiusindefinitus6935

10 ай бұрын

Pilots are part of it, but the aircraft themselves also have a huge role. Besides, this is an aircraft comparison.

has been exported to Greece also

@akashbenny5397

11 ай бұрын

Plus India too have decent num of Rafaels,and they are planning for a bigger order...these are just old episodes again re releasing...

@mattgummerson8370

11 ай бұрын

Germany also ordering another large batch of typhoon, plus other countries which aren’t mentioned

Rafaels have also been exported to India.

@aaronking2369

3 ай бұрын

Lol indian finally realised the Russian trash they keep buying is no good then😂

Greece has rafale...as well ..

Beauty of Rafale ❤

it's 2023 comparizon, so the vid should have taken in consideration the F4 spec version of the Rafale, wich is produced just now, with a brand "2023" avionic. (the F3R will not be produced ... and it already has the AESA radar) - against the very latest update of the EF. both specs seems a little outdated. that's what i was waiting for, according to the title

The Eurofighter can also fire Meteor missiles so its bvr capabilities are close to the Rafale. At their debuts, both aircrafts were very different, Rafale was an omnirole fighter and Typhoon was an air superiority. But now both have very close capabilities. The Typhoon has become more versatile, and the Rafale has now advance air superiority capabilities and will soon replace the Mirage 2000 in this type of mission in the french air force.

@aimgorge

10 ай бұрын

Rafale's way more advanced radar allows to do work better with METEOR than Eurofighter's outdated radar. Rafale is way better in multirole, since it can be used on NATO carriers and made for nuclear deterrence.

@EnglishScripter

10 ай бұрын

@@aimgorge But Britian has better AWACS.....

@aimgorge

10 ай бұрын

@@EnglishScripter wtf are you talking about. At this point UK has 0 AWACS. They retired them all in 2021. UK carriers can't even carry AWACS due to the absence of catapult anyway. Meanwhile France has 2 E-2Cs on its carrier and 4 E-3Fs

@EnglishScripter

10 ай бұрын

@@aimgorge UK has E-7 Wedgetails. And they have AWACS helicopters for carriers....

@aimgorge

10 ай бұрын

@@EnglishScripter Wedgetails haven't been delivered. And their orders were reduced from 5 to 3. Helicopter AWACS are a joke, at best.

Just like Private plane Can a person Buy a Private Fighter Jet like they Owned or Buy Cars ... I am Really Curious about that ...

• Rafale B : 73 M€ TTC • Rafale C : 68 M€ TTC • Rafale M : 78 M€ TTC

@lucaj8131

11 ай бұрын

TTC en mode on le trouve au super U a 20% de TVA.

@pascalf764

11 ай бұрын

@@lucaj8131 en effet pour lexpor ils récupèrent la tva 😅

@fredericmartin6994

10 ай бұрын

@@lucaj8131 quand tu exportes tu ne paies pas la TVA, va à la caisse centrale, présente ta piece d'identité si tu es étranger, on te fera la détax, mais n'oublie pas de faire le plein parce que si tu gares ton avion sur le bord de la route c'est la fourrière immédiatement

@MrJopijopa

10 ай бұрын

Ça veut absolument rien dire ces chiffres. - package armement - simulateur - maintenances - volume de ventes - délai de livraison Etc. Beaucoup de facteurs influent sur le prix final.

@pascalf764

7 ай бұрын

@@MrJopijopa c'est le prix d'un appareil pour les consommables ce n'est pas Dassault qui les vend et les fabrique

I’ll take the Rafale any day over euro fighter. IN MY DREAM of course 😂 Seriously what a beauty that aircraft is !

The F-15EX has the strongest center box among any fighters worldwide, enabling it to effortlessly handle any G-force at various loads. In my view, the future F15 should leverage the rear cockpit by integrating advanced command computers to replace the weapon officer and command up to eight UCAVs alongside to the battle zone. Furthermore, with additional wing pods at stations 1 and 9, it possesses the capability to carry an enormous weapon payload to the war zone, akin to having R2D2 in the back seat. There are endless technologies embedded into the F15 that may be better than the F35 or the next 6Gen. The F15 will always be the workhorse that can carry massive weapons and now it has technology companions that don't care about G-force maneuvers. Compare: 1 (6 Gen Fighter) vs 1 (F15EX+8 UCAV).

From the front Rafale is the most sexiest aircraft ever(minus fuel nozzle)!!

@frederickpile3599

3 ай бұрын

" CHASSE EMBARQUÉE " VIDEOS.

Id like to see them both on complementary mission :=)

The SCALP-EG long range missile and the Storm-Shadow long range missile is the same weapon with different names for the French Air-force and the Royal Air-force respectedly. You failed to mention the Taurus long range missile, that is operational with the German Air-force as well as with the Italian one ( carried by the Eurofighters of both countries ). Both aircraft are compatible with the advanced Meteor BVR missile. The main short range IR missile of Rafale-F3R is the MICA-IR. There is also a radar-guided ( for the initial stage of its flight ) version, with active-radar capabilities MICA-EM ( electro-magnetique ). The main short range IR missile of the Eurofighter-Typhoons is the IRIS-T off-line-of-sight missile and not the Sidewinders. CAPTOR-E radar is also an AESA technology radar same as the RBE-2AA.

@kmanliberty1065

10 ай бұрын

British Typhoon are not equipped with IRIS-T. Instead they are using ASRAAM missiles.

Rafale is definitely superior no doubt

Make a video on Tejas (Hal) comparing it’s class jets

Make a video on India's LCA Tejas, please.

@aaronking2369

3 ай бұрын

That's a training air craft at best lol

Pretty sure the Typhoon uses the Meteor too, there seems to be a few errors in this vid, the Eurofighter has a company website you can get all the stats from.

Le Rafale est le meilleur avion de sa génération, et il le reste face au F35. La version F4 lui confère encore plus de potentiel et est en cours de déploiement. La version F5 futur lui donnera notamment la possibilité de contrôler en vol un ( ou plusieurs) drone de combat type nEUROn. Maintenant la France fait ce qu'elle peut face à la puissance diplomatique et militaire des us et vend ses avions à des pays qui ne veulent pas dépendre de us et de ses nombreux département d'état pour tout et n'importe quoi. Sachant que quand il s'agit de te mettre une carotte, les usa sont champions.

That's an old version of Rafale. Eurofighter is today considered way more expensive, in the 200m range. Also you are saying Rafale has better radar, range, electronic and weaponry but you declare Eurofighter superior for air-air... Wtf?? You didn't talk how Rafale being the only real bi-engine as Eurofighter shares the same intake

@LondonSteveLee

10 ай бұрын

"Better" RADAR on Rafale? Yes and no. The RADAR return digital signal processing of Typhoon is known to be world class - possibly the best of any fighter sized aircraft - it is superb at picking out tiny RADAR signatures at extreme gain levels. For these reasons and regardless of RCS (which are totally unknown respectively) I'd expect Typhoon to acquire a lock on Rafale 10-20 NMs before Rafale can lock it - and of course in a passive search/fight Typhoon has a better IRST system. In high power search modes, Rafale has all the usual TX/RX element overheating issues that plague early (non GaN) AESA RADARs in fighter configurations cutting effective search range significantly as the RADAR drops into its various cooling strategies. This is why the Typhoon project delayed its AESA programme for so long - they couldn't get anywhere near CAPTOR-M for long-range search and track performance - which is a bit of an issue for an air-superiority fighter - so they held out until technology caught up. AESA - even flawed early implementations, made perfect sense for Rafale is it is primarily a multirole aircraft with focus on ground attack which AESA is imminently suited. Of course the other decisive factor for air-to-air engagements is Typhoon's (at least) 10,000 ft operating ceiling advantage giving its air to air weapons a significant uplift in ultimate range type for type. They are both superb aircraft and have plus and minuses over each other but essentially Typhoon is the better fighter and Rafale the better bomber. The carrier capability for Rafale is also a huge plus in its favour.

We Indonesian choose RAFALE!!

and the supercruise capabilities of the Eurofighter aren't even mentioned.

there is no possible comparison 🤣🤣The RAFALE agah win all the confrontations in all the competitions opposing it to other European planes. There is therefore no possible comparison. The RAFALE is far above all aircraft European combat 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵💪💪💪❤️❤️❤️

@hervelesage5286

4 ай бұрын

Désolé mais le rafale est 100% français.

Same design with delta wings, twin engines, canards, but the Rafale looks so much more elegant. What beautiful design by the French. I don't think the Typhoon is meant to replace the Tornado, which is a ground attacker, not an air superiority fighter.

I am a Eurofighter fan.🤘

@frederickpile3599

3 ай бұрын

"CHASSE EMBARQUEE " ( marine nationnale videos )

The indian airforce did a comparison of eft and rafale , the eft emerged slightly better but since the french offered a better package at a lower price the rafale was chosen

@hervelesage5286

4 ай бұрын

Vous oubliez que l'eft ne peut pas ce poser sur un porte avion,le choix est vite fait.

Let's be honest. Both this fighter jets are very good ✔️✔️ 🔝🔝✈️✈️

Each of the two has its advantages or disadvantages. But what matters to me is that we are on the same page. They are really good fighter jets . I love them both because for me they are a sign that we Europeans can build really damn good fighter jets.

You have the Typhoon, which can carry meteor, and is extremely manurable. If it is on the British side they also have the E-7 AWACS. The Rafale, which can carry meteors as well and has a better radar, but is still nothing compared to the E-7 Wedgetail. (French AWACS. is the E-3 Wedgetail) This means, they never have to turn there radars on, and the AWACS datalinks guide the missiles.

@Jugement

7 ай бұрын

Yet an AWACS does nothing for you when it comes to projection if your carriers arent equiped with catapults. The Charles de Gaulle fields two, the Queen Elizabeth class none. And ground based radars are much more relevant for airspace defense

@EnglishScripter

7 ай бұрын

Merlin Helicopters have a 200nm Range.@@Jugement

Euro fighter is just so pretty!!!

Both of these aircraft have scored simulated kills on the F-22 in war games conducted in North America.

@adamjd7645

Ай бұрын

Only when the engagement is begun within visual range.

@robmx2324

Ай бұрын

@@adamjd7645 You know that the F-22 is really a bomber, right?

@adamjd7645

Ай бұрын

​@@robmx2324 Now that's a hot take.

We should listen to the french and build an streamlined homogeneous European Military, engineering and building the equipment ourselves. Our Security industry needs to bee independent from global political relations and schould be operable without NGO contractors.

Old fighter design is remaied at euro fighter and rafale such as F16 and F18. But new fighter design is adapted at KF21

The information you have provided is outdated. Rafales are operating with AESA RADARs in the Indian Airforce.

5:07 this is the 30M791 (not the 30/719B which doesn't exists), it fires the 30x150b ammunition. The Rafale can carry up to 125 rounds. The force of the rafale is that most of the plane parts and armaments are designed and produced by french companies (Thales, SNECMA, Dassault, Nexter, MBDA) and we don't rely a lot on foreign good will to assure our defense.

@rickwalker2

10 ай бұрын

Not so much MBDA; that's another consortium.

@xenomorphelv4265

10 ай бұрын

@@rickwalker2 MBDA is providing most rafale's weapons : MICA air to air missiles, SCALP (aka Storm Shadow) cruise missile and the Nuclear capable ASMP-A air to ground missile. The only other provider is Safran with the AASM Hammer proppeled-gliding bomb.

@rickwalker2

10 ай бұрын

@@xenomorphelv4265 Yep, I'm just pointing out that they're not really a French company. They have operations in France but are a consortium. Just like Eurofighter, Panavia etc.

@xenomorphelv4265

10 ай бұрын

@@rickwalker2 what matter is that the military sovereingnty is preserved and the freedom of decision since there is no political restriction that can be set, unlike the ITAR regulations set by our "allied".

Cute presentation. I will show it to my children. Nuclear deterrence has been forgotten. It is a MAJOR topic from a french point of view. It makes this presentation totally void. Aircarrier missions, nuclear deterrence and deep strike are key concepts of use for the french army. These are the key reasons explaining why these programs were splitted in the 80's, and it also foresees why future programs will also blow (SCAF)

@user-vy3ci2ks4d

5 ай бұрын

Rafale FR-F3R and Mirage Dasault Aerospatial Aviation masterpiece Swords creations For nuclear strike thunder ⚡ ASMPA 🇫🇷🚀 ☢️

Eurofighter is NOT for long range missions cause it has slightly shorter range. Neither Eurofighter has the Spectra which Rafale has and can obscure actively its presence till it's late enough for their opponent to trace it.

The Eurofighter also uses Meteors and IRIS T missiles

Rafale can operate from a carrier, drop a nuclear weapon, is ITAR free and is cheaper to buy and fly. Eurofighter is faster. Repositioner on AESAradar . 2 way data link to Meteor. Altitude advantage.. Both have strengths and are on the same side. Binkov has done a vidio comparison with all similar aircraft and SH F18 is the most effective for the money. Well worth watching!

@leneanderthalien

11 ай бұрын

the half of the Rafale F3R are still refitted with AESA radars...and all the F4 ...a new version from the Snecma M88 engine is planed with 20Kn higher trust, this will improve the climb, altitude and speed performances from the Rafale

@NATObait

11 ай бұрын

@@leneanderthalien An upgraded engine would not improve the maximum height level as the Rafale has fixed air intakes unlike the Eurofighter that has variable intakes hence a 25% greater height advantage.

@aimgorge

10 ай бұрын

​@@NATObaitwho cares about height advantage though. Future is low altitude.

@NATObait

10 ай бұрын

@@aimgorge The height advantage means a Meteor missile launched at speed can increase its range and save fuel for the end game interception and that could be a 25% range advantage. The dog fight is almost never used it's always BVR as first choice then at closer ranges helmet queueing IR missiles can be launched and they have considerable range too.

@aimgorge

10 ай бұрын

@@NATObait the most important part for the Meteor's range and BVR is the radar range... And Rafale's RBE2 vastly outperforms Eurofighter's CAPTOR-e. That's why the ECRS Mk-2 is being developed but won't be available before long.

Export wise is 50/50 both Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt have ordered both only they can say which is best

It should nevertheless be noted that the Rafale beat the Eurofighter 8 times out of ten in all training competitions. That its availability is nearly twice that of the Eurofighter and that it has super cruise and a radar image equivalent to a quarter of that of the Eurofighter. So are they equivalent? No, I do not think so.

@EnglishScripter

10 ай бұрын

Modern day you use AWACS mate. French use the E-3, Britain use the E-7.

@EnglishScripter

10 ай бұрын

Also I dont see this so called competition anywhere.

For the AA role, close air combat or maneuverability is not thar important, but the low radar signature and a good sensor / radar suite with good medium & long range weapons. The Eurofighter and the Rafale are quite similar, but the fact that the Rafale has a longer operaring range makes it more suited for ground striking missions. However, i'd chose the F35 over both for a similar cost.

@michelayad9479

11 ай бұрын

No the rafale is very superior!

@diegoc.8518

11 ай бұрын

@@michelayad9479 arrête de mentir, tu peux comparer un avion de 4ème gen avec un de la 5ème

@michelayad9479

10 ай бұрын

Je ne ment pas mon ami, le rafale à toujours battu le F35 dans les compétitions pour la vente mais c'est toujours le F35 qui a été vendu pour des questions géopolitique. Tu sous estime trop les Français qui sont en avance sur les américains dans l’avionique numérique et la fusion des données sachant que Dassault a commencé ces recherches au début des années 60 avant tout le monde.

@BFOP15

10 ай бұрын

​@@diegoc.8518Le F35.n'est pas un avion de 5e génération. Selon ce standard inventé par les américains pour des raisons purement commerciales un avion de 5e génération doit posséder les critères suivants ; 1) Furtivité, le F35 l'a... 2) Fusion de données, le F35 l'a 3) Hypermanoeuvrabilité, le F35 est tout sauf manoeuvrant 4) capacité de vol en supercroisière, le F35 ne l'a pas. 5) Liaison de données, le F35 l'a. Le F35 remplit 3 conditions sur 5. Rafale : 1) Furtivité, en partie notamment en configuration lisse. 2) Fusion de données. Le Rafale l'a. 3) Hypermanoeuvrabilité Le Rafale l'a. 4) Capacité de supercroisière, le Rafale l'a. 5) Liaison de données, le Rafale l'a. Le Rafale remplit 4,5 critères de 5e génération là où le F35 n'en remplit que 3... Il faut arrêter de suivre aveuglément la propagande américaine.

@diegoc.8518

10 ай бұрын

@@BFOP15 Il faut arrêter de suivre aveuglémment la propagande française...On sait que le Rafale est un superbe avion cependant il n'a pas été conçu pour être le plus furtif possible. Son RCS dans le meilleur cas et sans réservoir et missiles ou pods est de 0,5 m^2. Celui du F-35 est bien plus bas, le critère principal de la 5ème gen est la furtivité. Bien que Dassault a tenté d'intégrer des moyens pour réduire le RDC du Rafale, il y a une limite structurelle. Les capacités du standard F4 cherchent à se rapprocher ou rattraper le retard en terme de technologie par rapport aux américains concernant le F-35. Regarde la vidéo débrief sur le sujet de Até c'est un ancien pilote de la marine française.

Don't think the mentioned service ceiling of either is correct..please re-check.

@LondonSteveLee

10 ай бұрын

Typhoon has an at least 10,000 ft celling advantage over Rafale - the bypass ratio of Rafale's engines are optimised for immediate thrust at sea level due to carrier requirements. Typhoon was designed from the outset as an air-superiority fighter so the engine design is optimised for high speed and high altitudes. Sometimes you have to make design compromises and this is where the difference between the primary initial roles for the respective aircraft really shows. The French should really release a fighter optimised variant of the engines for nations that have no intention of operating off carriers. Of course this will complicate supply chain issues for operators of both variants and increase costs for the project as a whole.

I get goodebumps everytime i see the Logo of the TaktLwG 74 because they are stationed just 1 km away from my house

The rafale is NOT a competitor of the Typhoon, he is a competitor of the F22 ... The typhoon is not even on the table ...

@philv3941

11 ай бұрын

not, at all, the 22 or the F35 are used with very low RCS mode even with missiles and bombs in board, and no Rafale, Gripen or Eurofighter could do that. Loaded, the speed drops and the RCS explode. They are still very polyvalent and relevant machines, but until the NGF/SCAF is not on the table, no, the dassault nor airbus products are not good competitors of 5th gen on many many missions. Just listen to Ate (chuet) has to say on this topic (and he is a former Rafale instructor, just saying) . we are franch, it's ok, but we can be fair too ;)

@johndoe-cd9vt

11 ай бұрын

@@philv3941 you don't even know what you are talking about, I know Ate very well and I also know Mover (US side...), Mover and his friend Gorky (2 former pilots) call the F35 "Fat Amy" just to make fun of it... The F22 and the F35 are LESS maneuverable than any good delta wings, they are also very bad at supercruising. The F35 is still full of issues, very unstable. Stealth ? You are stealth if you don't touch anything and don't wear anything outside the plane... in other word, you sacrifice MANY important features for the only goal to remain stealth.. something that can easily be uncovered by the spectra system or by the surface to air radars who can communicate with all the rafales in the area in real time... There is a sentence for that "putting all your eggs in the same basket" that's how they lost a F 117 Nighthawk a few years ago, a plane who was supposed to be "invisible" ...

@lucaj8131

11 ай бұрын

The real serious competitors the rafale actually has to face off against on the export market are the f-18 SH and f-35.

@johndoe-cd9vt

5 ай бұрын

@@lucaj8131 another wrong statement.. the rafale has already outsell the F35 multiple years... Also many countries in EU buy the F35, not because it's a better aicraft but because to be able to use the nuclear bomb provided by the US, they have to buy a US jet ...

The eurofighter uses the meteor missile as well. I'm not sure why you didn't add that. Makes me wonder what else you forgot. Like your channel, but you should get all the info right.

Both are really good, but the eurofighter has a better engine and the Rafale proven omnirole, meaning it can prepare to a strike & air combat mission at the same time. It's also sexier with the curvy looks.

@frederickpile3599

3 ай бұрын

More thrust at higher level, full load. Not better engine.

Asking cause I don't know. Does the front wings make these planes more manurable than 5th gen planes like the F22 with vector thrust? If no, since the Russians were able to design vector thrusts on their 5th gen planes, can this tech be applied to the Rafale or the Euro typhoon in a 5 gen version of these planes? I could imagine these planes having stealth capability with stealth paint albeit, the missiles will not fit internally like how the US redesigned the F16ex or the F15ex because of the size of these planes..

@Guillaume528

6 ай бұрын

The planes at the front are used to move the center of lift in front of the center of gravity which makes the aircraft unstable but very maneuvering, the instability being compensated by the on-board computer. The F22 compensates for its center of lift at the back of the center of gravity with a vector thrust and a very large depth rudder which allows it to have maximum authority and super maneuverability. I don't know if you saw the video of the dog fight between the Rafale and the F22 but we can clearly see that the lift center at the front of the center of mass helps a lot the Rafale against the F22

@Guillaume528

6 ай бұрын

In the main lines it makes 4.5th generation aircraft almost as maneuverable as 5th generation aircraft

@hervelesage5286

4 ай бұрын

Pour votre info aucun avion actuel n'est et ne peut être furtif.

@Guillaume528

4 ай бұрын

@@hervelesage5286 bah c’est que la furtivitée actuelle ne peut que retarder le moment où l’avion est détecté quoi

@hervelesage5286

4 ай бұрын

@@Guillaume528 C'est beaucoup plus compliqué que sa! Les fameux avions furtifs ne passe pas á travers des basses fréquences et sont détéctable en ayant un radar multicouche,la furtivitée c'est pas demain la veille sans compter le grand nombre d'inconvenient. La seule technique qui fonctionne c'est de volé en rase motte.