Darktide Vet melee tier list.

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  • @10100viperman
    @10100viperman6 ай бұрын

    Despite the rough attitude, the informative nature of these vids can't be denied. My winrate has legit skyrocketed after learning from them, so thanks for that Tanner lmao.

  • @LordPratticus

    @LordPratticus

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, this is the first video of his I've seen. My first thought was, "Love the info, wish he would take it down a couple of notches."

  • @Nukefandango

    @Nukefandango

    6 ай бұрын

    I'd imagine this is him trying to figure out his "voice," so to speak. I don't mind the stream of consciousness so much, but hopefully he'll tone down the "angry youtuber" stuff. I'm not on reddit, I don't know or care about what weird arguments have about this game, I'm a suburban dad trying to make the most of the 30 minutes I get to play video games on a weekday lol

  • @greedbc

    @greedbc

    6 ай бұрын

    I absolutely agree, take a chill pill my dude

  • @hecc7906

    @hecc7906

    6 ай бұрын

    This attitude is 100% needed, have you seen the darktide community?

  • @Nukefandango

    @Nukefandango

    6 ай бұрын

    @@hecc7906 if it's anything like this, im sure it's awful.

  • @CrazyJoe2560
    @CrazyJoe25606 ай бұрын

    Ah yes the knife, I see a Vet and Zealot in my team and he's either zooming around sliding on the ground, absolutely obliterating herectics. Or leaving the dirtiest mess of stabbed and pissed off herectics never looking back at the consequences of his filthy actions.

  • @BuckRodgers3

    @BuckRodgers3

    6 ай бұрын

    Especially when they are running stealth, they are either blenders chewing up everything in the direction they are going or added Difficulty modifiers taking up a spot but doing nothing but activating more enemies then running past them.

  • @juniorkouhai4952

    @juniorkouhai4952

    6 ай бұрын

    CLEAN IT UP JANNY

  • @JC-uz3ey

    @JC-uz3ey

    6 ай бұрын

    Always the filthy latter, and these soybois have Khorne's brass balls to scream at others to hurry the fuck up while waiting for the rest of the team to catch up while cleaning up their Emperor damned mess!

  • @Normem1966
    @Normem19666 ай бұрын

    „Tops are always more interesting“ Chile u made me spill my drink😂

  • @Corvx
    @Corvx6 ай бұрын

    One plus for the chain weapons is that they melt the boss shields super fast.

  • @echellepliante8759
    @echellepliante87595 ай бұрын

    Literally the best informative videos on KZread. Keep up your holy work man

  • @VlIvar
    @VlIvar6 ай бұрын

    Respect the videos straight to the meta without the bs! Keep doing you my g

  • @Torresgamingchannel
    @Torresgamingchannel6 ай бұрын

    Great video as always. Agree with ya. Dagger has been on my loadouts and isn’t leaving anytime soon.

  • @SonsOfSek
    @SonsOfSek6 ай бұрын

    "Tops are always more Interesting" - Tanner 2024

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah and?

  • @helevu9162

    @helevu9162

    6 ай бұрын

    real bottom energy

  • @Chloroxite

    @Chloroxite

    5 ай бұрын

    average darktide player @@TannerLindberg

  • @00mrmoose
    @00mrmoose6 ай бұрын

    Tier lists for the other classes would be great!

  • @Ultragravy
    @Ultragravy6 ай бұрын

    Just a minor thing about the Antax vs the Rashad - the Antax has slightly higher base cleave (it has a cleave targets bar vs the rashad's finesse), but has a MUCH better push attack which does a lot more damage and comes out a lot faster than the Rashad's wide slow crowd controlling sweep. I do agree the Rashad is better overall due to the finesse and attack speed making it the better choice vs Armor, but the Antax performs slightly better vs hordes with mixed elites, so I find them interchangeable really. I'd use a well-statted Antax over a mediocre Rashad. Both those axes are kind of my brain-off comfort weapons on veteran.

  • @prich0382

    @prich0382

    6 ай бұрын

    The mk 5 axe is the antax? Who cares about Cleave on axes, you use Brutal Momentum to bypass Cleave.

  • @Ultragravy

    @Ultragravy

    6 ай бұрын

    @@prich0382 Oh for sure it's very very minor (Brutal Momentum effect caps at +4 targets, the Antax will splash secondary damage to an extra +1 target in a horde generally if super dense), not enough to factor in really. But the push attack is definitely an upgrade depending on style as it comes out so fast and hits for double the Rashad's sweep. Rashad is still overall better though for sure.

  • @YourSponsor
    @YourSponsor6 ай бұрын

    PSA to anybody who comes across this comment: as far as Combat Axes go, your heavy attacks deal less damage to Dreg Ragers than your light attacks do. it's not just better damage because the attacks are faster, it's just better damage period.

  • @jumpingman6612
    @jumpingman66126 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this tier list, great info as always

  • @stepheng618
    @stepheng6186 ай бұрын

    I've learned to love the new Chainaxe it's move set and damage are just amazing. Very satisfying to use.

  • @sophieirisviel4100
    @sophieirisviel41006 ай бұрын

    any chance we get a video like this with the class-specific weapons? (mostly the heavy/chain/dueling swords, flamer/bolter/plasma gun and the psyker staffs). i know flamer/bolter are bad and plasma is good, but i havent seen anyone articulate why the way youve showed how the columnus is goated

  • @MinamotoTerumi
    @MinamotoTerumi6 ай бұрын

    Combat blade's become my default weapon purely because of that sprint speed. Too many pubs I play with don't bother to go for plasteel at all and I need that shit.

  • @MinamotoTerumi

    @MinamotoTerumi

    6 ай бұрын

    I have never really enjoyed the axes though. The tactical axes just didn't feel as good as the combat blade and I've never really played around with the regular axes either, and I don't have the plasteel or the patience to try generating some decent ones to try out.

  • @primedestroyers2170
    @primedestroyers21706 ай бұрын

    something you might not know, the combat axes light attacks are better then the heavies on maniac

  • @robawtrob8399
    @robawtrob83996 ай бұрын

    great videos, Love the insight and ideas. not a fan of the combative tone/style, but it's your video, your vibe, your choice, so you keep doing you.

  • @mistery264
    @mistery2646 ай бұрын

    what's the name of the mod that you can create any weapon with any mod for that weapon in Psykhanium ?

  • @YizzTheEunuch
    @YizzTheEunuch2 ай бұрын

    1:04 what a great joke 😂

  • @EmmLoaf
    @EmmLoaf6 ай бұрын

    DEVIL'S CLAW GANG LET'S GO

  • @Morbak546
    @Morbak5466 ай бұрын

    The tactical axe's push attack has the same properties as heavy 1 and for some reason the follow up heavy 2 comes off realy fast. Not very usable on vet because of stamina regen but zealot can benefit from this greatly

  • @Silphius
    @Silphius6 ай бұрын

    I think this was your best vid yet. Concise, to the point and very reasonable. Only thing I'm missing is a small explanation on how to do the run tech with the knife. You just keep charging heavy attacks?

  • @jacobharras

    @jacobharras

    6 ай бұрын

    The run tech is just sprinting while charging your heavy attack. It's a unique interaction with the knife. Only a few other weapons help you cover ground quickly by performing certain actions.

  • @vahnayasaki6989

    @vahnayasaki6989

    6 ай бұрын

    It's the kerillian sword and dagger push attack into heavy 2 tech all over again

  • @Silphius

    @Silphius

    6 ай бұрын

    Nice, good to know. Thanks guys. And now the info is available in the comments for others, so double win.

  • @onion599

    @onion599

    6 ай бұрын

    tbf a lot more weapons had that shit in VT2, not just elf weapons @@vahnayasaki6989

  • @deasesebago

    @deasesebago

    4 ай бұрын

    mortal kombat!!!

  • @benzrider1902
    @benzrider19024 ай бұрын

    Devils claw also parrys the aoe attack and kick from the karnak twins, insane aoe damage

  • @mike91980
    @mike919806 ай бұрын

    Is there a reason you prefer the new shovel MK7 over the MK3? You can test this but the MK7 won't let you dodge out of the special activation attack. The MK3 one lets you dodge out of it.

  • @infaraday6862
    @infaraday68624 ай бұрын

    Would you say that the mk6 or the mk3 is the better knife now?

  • @prozlayer87
    @prozlayer875 ай бұрын

    Where does the new knife fit into this?

  • @MarkSmith8357
    @MarkSmith83574 ай бұрын

    The number one reason I use & love the Mk VII shovel isn't the damage or dodge stats which I do like that but the sound it makes when slamming up against pretty much anything. The special to me is just a bonus that can one shot muties but the sound is what makes this fun. I don't know why its just what I like I guess. I love your enthusiasm. "If you dont agree, go fuck youself" a perfectly fine sentence when trying to drive a point across but then again I use the word "fuck" like a comma lol.

  • @alexandreboudteault-leblan3815
    @alexandreboudteault-leblan3815Ай бұрын

    Which of the two chainsword for veteran is better ? The mark IV or the XIII ?

  • @KeetSeel
    @KeetSeel6 ай бұрын

    Is there a reason you chose crit dmg / crit chance as perks instead of dmg against armor?

  • @kudosbudo
    @kudosbudo6 ай бұрын

    Surprised about the Rashed however im on psyker, it doesnt feel great there. But i might retry it.

  • @crispb
    @crispb6 ай бұрын

    so Onslaught talent is good?

  • @XXxRaptorjesusx
    @XXxRaptorjesusx6 ай бұрын

    The old chain axe that got buffed is a monster now, get head taker and slaughterer on it and go to town.

  • @sickomode6725
    @sickomode67252 ай бұрын

    Can you make a video about best curios perks for veteran ?

  • @gronm69
    @gronm696 ай бұрын

    same with psykers, they will value their force swords over mobility and then cry that psyker is squishy which if you equip duelling sword is a joke, solid tier list and explanation thanks

  • @kohth5027
    @kohth50276 ай бұрын

    what about the new knife same as the old one?

  • @Xooo
    @Xooo2 ай бұрын

    Dude, thx a lot!!! You changed my view on weapons ENTIRELY!!!

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    2 ай бұрын

    Hey thanks

  • @thekaiseriswiser4451
    @thekaiseriswiser44516 ай бұрын

    What about the other Chainsword? I always use that one myself.

  • @cannibalcheese
    @cannibalcheese5 ай бұрын

    Chain axe is my fav. It just chews through specials and elites.

  • @christopherrivera9827
    @christopherrivera98276 ай бұрын

    Yay new tier list

  • @madmannexus
    @madmannexus6 ай бұрын

    The Antax Mk 5 Combat axe does more damage on the light attacks than the heavy ones idk why.

  • @baneoftoilets
    @baneoftoilets6 ай бұрын

    What are your thoughts on marksman’s focus? I think it works better with autoguns

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    it does

  • @baneoftoilets

    @baneoftoilets

    6 ай бұрын

    Now that I think about it I was wrong.

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    no it just is better on auto guns.

  • @sophieirisviel4100

    @sophieirisviel4100

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TannerLindbergis that a weird interaction or is it just the fact that the columnus is broken powerful

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    its the fact that you dont get any penalties for missing only for hitting so high volume fire is easier and more head shots

  • @joemama114
    @joemama1146 ай бұрын

    Ayyyyyyy Mark 2 Tac Axe, that was the first weapon I random rolled with amazing stats 548 or something solid headshot/weakspot damage Bmomentum and I think shred.

  • @z3bra_f0untain36
    @z3bra_f0untain366 ай бұрын

    Why would you pick Flesh Tearer over Precognition? I would think the +60% finesse would be a much better boost in damage than bleed dots. Is it that bleeds are just more consistent?

  • @KarthanRouge

    @KarthanRouge

    6 ай бұрын

    Did you just answer your own question?

  • @z3bra_f0untain36

    @z3bra_f0untain36

    6 ай бұрын

    @@KarthanRouge Speculation isn't really an answer, so no

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    Bleeds add up to more dmg. Pre cog is good for one hit but with 2 second duration it just doesnt last long enough.

  • @hakusu
    @hakusu6 ай бұрын

    If only I had plateel for all the cool stuff to try out and rng :}

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    eh honestly in 99% of cases tier 3 blssings and perks is fine people who say stuff like double t4 or its a brick are morons. i always ask them where there true solo videos are. everytime they say they do them but dont upload yeah sure buddy.

  • @hakusu

    @hakusu

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TannerLindberg ahh okay gotcha, thanks T3 more than enough if I can get it ofc :)

  • @Xhaleon
    @Xhaleon6 ай бұрын

    Is the chainsword mark 4 block cancel really worth it? For the majority of the playerbase trying to fumble with block cancels requires more mental focus than is available, me included, plus it may develop a bad habit of "reserving" the block for its place in the combo instead of blocking when needed. The effort for angling the diagonal heavy attack to the horde is much easier and thus more consistent. The mark 13g is better and also simpler to use anyway.

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    eh block cancels was normal and normalized in vermintide 2 if we could do it so can you guys.

  • @lykonic1763

    @lykonic1763

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@TannerLindbergBlock cancelling just feels a hell of a lot slower in this game compared to Vermintide 2 imo. Not sure if it's because of animation speed looking slower or because it actually takes longer between attacks though.

  • @lunatacitum6850
    @lunatacitum68506 ай бұрын

    What mods do you use for your hp and toughness like such

  • @jumpingman6612

    @jumpingman6612

    6 ай бұрын

    Check his uploaded mod video my man

  • @OrAngelicBlitz8633
    @OrAngelicBlitz86336 ай бұрын

    0:29 We're gonna... What?!

  • @xnkatta
    @xnkatta6 ай бұрын

    I really dislike combat blade III because of it's attack animations, where the arm covers like half of the screen. Can you tell, what FOV you are using? I want to try it with a wider view, maybe it will help with the problem.

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    Weapon fov is the mod

  • @SixXGaming
    @SixXGaming6 ай бұрын

    What’s that mod?

  • @gregmroczek4204
    @gregmroczek42046 ай бұрын

    Finally!!

  • @StealthyUK
    @StealthyUK6 ай бұрын

    Mentions the parry :D

  • @Anonimous37800
    @Anonimous378006 ай бұрын

    That's a surprisingly not surprising list. Mobility is king.

  • @Purifactor
    @Purifactor6 ай бұрын

    Tanner, I have a god roll mk3 knife with mercy killer (weak spot on bleed) and flesh tearer blessings. crit chance and damage perks. All the meta melee nodes taken in tree on my build The seemingly useless node that adds one bleed on hit seems to work well with this, auto procs mercy killer… no crit needed to apply the bleed for it, making it one shot all mobs with weak spot hits Do you think that’s optimal or should I drop that blessing and node for the riposte blessing (I’ll have to grind it) Try mine out if you haven’t and see what you think.. Thanks

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    The issue with that synergy is it costs to many points really

  • @Purifactor

    @Purifactor

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the fast reply.. I’ll grind and try out the alternative but thought I’d see if you had tried it .. save me the trouble

  • @manvendra_singh
    @manvendra_singh6 ай бұрын

    Is the knife good with psyker? Im currently running with my lvl 22 psyker

  • @Silphius

    @Silphius

    6 ай бұрын

    Imma be honest: I don't know 100%. I do know I've never ever seen a psyker use one in my lobbies. And it's probably because Psyker gets some unique melee options in the force swords and dueling sabers that you might want to use over the combat blade (knife). Force swords allow you to channel warp energy into your sword to do crazy damage, allow you to quell peril and the Illisi version is crazy good at horde clear. Meanwhile a good dueling saber with ~80 mobility stat is very very fast, just like the knife. There's a few psyker vids on this channel, check them out. Tanner seems to use a mk IV saber.

  • @manvendra_singh

    @manvendra_singh

    6 ай бұрын

    thank you for the reply !@@Silphius Yeah true i did see his loadout - the saber. I am quite bad at melee combat, I cannot time the dodges properly hence i want to switch to something other than the saber haha

  • @Silphius

    @Silphius

    6 ай бұрын

    @@manvendra_singh try a deimos or illisi force sword. Deimos for big stuff, illisi for horde clear, your preference. Take the kinetic deflection talent in the skill tree (bottom right) and optionally the "deflector" blessing on the sword itself so it can block bullets. Now you can block a LOT of damage, since it'll give you peril instead. It can't blow you up, at 100 it just goes to your stamina instead. So now while blocking, practice dodging; you can do both at the same time. You have to learn how to dodge, its a core game mechanic for psyker. But this way it's incredibly safe and forgiving. Any dodge you miss will block damage instead. (Make sure the sword has a decent mobility stat)

  • @laundry1799

    @laundry1799

    6 ай бұрын

    @@manvendra_singh Diemos force sword does great dmg you just lose the mobility and the stab is on heavy 2 instead of heavy 1.

  • @manvendra_singh

    @manvendra_singh

    6 ай бұрын

    so you mean I dodge while blocking attacks? do you have a vod of you playing mate, it would be super helful@@Silphius

  • @infectedanimal9830
    @infectedanimal98306 ай бұрын

    List of weapons he forgot - Munitorum Mk III Sapper Shovel - Catachan Mk VI Combat Blade - Cadia Mk XIIIg Assault Chainsword And he barely touched on the Chainaxes either Was excited for a decent ranking and why you put them in the places you did but guess I’ll have to keep waiting for a part 2

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    eh i just didnt find it very necessary to talk about them. also the shitty tier list didnt have icons for them

  • @feeteater6824
    @feeteater68246 ай бұрын

    Power sword vi is goated

  • @Poupeur
    @Poupeur6 ай бұрын

    You're talking about one new shovel, but there are two. Which is the best according to you ?

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    the pick axe one the newst one the mk7 or what ever

  • @Poupeur

    @Poupeur

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TannerLindberg The two new shovels have that pickaxe special.

  • @CL-jq1xs

    @CL-jq1xs

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TannerLindberg for shovel mk3 and mk7. Which shovel is better at horde?

  • @zeromatsuri
    @zeromatsuri5 ай бұрын

    tap tap dodge tap tap dodge i'm trying to become a good zaelot thank you

  • @Wood_969
    @Wood_9696 ай бұрын

  • @WadeGLouis
    @WadeGLouis6 ай бұрын

    Am I exceptional? I don't see that weapon tester mod in your mod vid? Mind dropping a name or link pls mr lindberg?

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    someone sent it to me i have no idea how to get it my self

  • @snapow

    @snapow

    6 ай бұрын

    can you send it to us or is it private or something ​@TannerLindberg

  • @Silphius

    @Silphius

    6 ай бұрын

    Not sure why my comment keeps getting eaten. It's called Loadout Config. Darktide's modding disc has a link if you search for it.

  • @Silphius

    @Silphius

    6 ай бұрын

    I guess the shorter comment works? Must've tripped some keyword filter or something by explaining where to find it :/

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    Ай бұрын

    @@Silphius if you used a link youtube auto deletes the comment

  • @OfLanceTheLonginus
    @OfLanceTheLonginus6 ай бұрын

    Luv me knife…

  • @huffinLeeroy
    @huffinLeeroy6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, f you to everyone who has shat on me on ingame chat for using the devils claw mk4, while I'm calmly parrying and soloing the rager patrol that killed you. I always said it was an awesome weapon, and everyone's like 'hrr, nah it's shit'

  • @danielsula4720
    @danielsula47206 ай бұрын

    this mf spittin

  • @actualteddybear891
    @actualteddybear8912 ай бұрын

    I really enjoy the chainsword. It's versatile like me. Pause. I can't look at the reddit for this game or Vermintide because so many people have such a narrow view of the game and look at everything in a vacuum where everything either works perfectly or not at all depending on how they feel about a weapon or talent. You find good good info here and there but most of it is trash takes.

  • @brandonthomas8726
    @brandonthomas87266 ай бұрын

    Idgaf what they say, the og vet shovel is s tier. Solid fast weak spot single target hit and cc heavy with a rager stun special. I will honk til I die.

  • @Ranstail
    @Ranstail5 ай бұрын

    but the devil's claw sword cant deal with armor. dk how you put it in s tier when it has such a weak spot

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    5 ай бұрын

    un canny? on slaught?

  • @Ranstail

    @Ranstail

    5 ай бұрын

    @@TannerLindberg please, elaborate

  • @ZanettesPlace
    @ZanettesPlace2 ай бұрын

    15:45 it had to be a Fighting game player to be this salty but lucid about people's lack of understanding.

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    2 ай бұрын

    What the fuck are you talking about

  • @bogdanyuriev1507
    @bogdanyuriev15076 ай бұрын

    I love how someone at FS has either decided to or was told to copy the worst Empire weapon, the Longsword, and simply plastered the shovel skin onto it, only to then be flummoxed by people not wanting to use a weapon that can barely deal any damage to armor by spending stamina AGAIN(with the shittiest blessing pool this time!). The only thing MORE funny than this is the Longsword "buff" that copied Bretsword's push attack values without the overhead chains that follow

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    I love this comment so much. Theres people who actually defend the old shovel. But this is absolutely a longsword vs bret long sword situation.

  • @bogdanyuriev1507

    @bogdanyuriev1507

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TannerLindberg Ironically, quite a few people expected me to defend both since I sometimes use the "krieger coom" HelbMKIII/shovel and "crit to delete 25 pink rats" GSword knightly temper GK builds in Maelstroms/Cata CW runs. Unfortunately for then, I still (miraculously) have at least 7 functioning braincells :)

  • @facehurt7606
    @facehurt76066 ай бұрын

    too bad about the powersword i still love it for 2 shoting crushers and maulers but its hella weak against bosses or when youre stuck in

  • @thunder2434
    @thunder2434Ай бұрын

    The "new" Chainsword is better than the old one you showed for everything. Faster, more damage, better revv-damage...

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    Ай бұрын

    Worse move set

  • @thunder2434

    @thunder2434

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@TannerLindberg I see. I'll try out the old chainsword some again then to see if it performs better.

  • @xGarrusV
    @xGarrusV6 ай бұрын

    I really wish I could roll a decent flesh tear knife :( Lacerate is nice for zealot crits at least

  • @Jason354
    @Jason3546 ай бұрын

    I just wanna say those that play orthus offensive hardmode are mostly trash and that goes double for my vet mains

  • @tonywizdard1531
    @tonywizdard15316 ай бұрын

    “Tops are always more interesting” My man

  • @kilop206
    @kilop2066 ай бұрын

    Do you play that other, superior Tide game too?

  • @otaraforever114
    @otaraforever1146 ай бұрын

    1:45 HAHAHAHAHA

  • @Blarce
    @Blarce6 ай бұрын

    Cool video, but like, reddit strawmen and ending so many sentences with a questionmark really throw me off, if I have to pick shit out?

  • @TannerLindberg

    @TannerLindberg

    6 ай бұрын

    calling it a reddit strawman tells me either you are a major redditor or dont use it at all.

  • @Blarce

    @Blarce

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TannerLindberg I go there for porn sometimes?

  • @Darkhexagon
    @Darkhexagon6 ай бұрын

    Muted?

  • @DominicMaez
    @DominicMaez3 ай бұрын

    3:11 I felt soooooo validated. Cause I’ve been having games with zealots who do exactly that. And as a dagger zealot it greatly offfends me. Because I am the teams coherency defense blender and loot rat. If I run away into a room you rest your ass assured there is nearly no things living except for that one groaner hiding behind a pillar in the corner. I hate following a zealot and just sandwiched between two shotgun groups and 12 gunners because he stealthed through and is killing some shooter boys near the next drop. Agreed. I love the new shovels because of their one shot capabilities. Made me happy to have that for my Ogryn and vet when I use them! Like the special ability for waves of mutants is just like dueling sword for psycher. Pop pop pop and dodge and spin and pop!!

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