I have the Silent Service and a 116610ln-I wear the Ginault as my nice beater. I’d recommend the Ginault to anyone who can’t or won’t spend 10-12k for a Rolex. I love mine 😎!

I own a Ginault Silent Service and absolutely love it. I’m wearing it right now actually. I’ve been getting the runaround from Rolex for two years, despite having a very good purchase history at my AD. I’m not going to compare the SS to a Submariner but it’s a very high quality watch and I’m extremely satisfied with it. The finishing is outstanding. While it takes cues from the design of the sub, it is not a direct homage, and has its own style. The bezel is outstanding. The clasp is great and I can wear it all day comfortably.

@paulvon2378

Жыл бұрын

after watching this I am even more convinced most of the price for Rolex is their name and prestige.

@nedflanders3769

Жыл бұрын

@@paulvon2378 Rolex are masters of marketing

This review is spot on! I own the Silent Service, and the OR2 and they really do represent almost Rolex level quality at 1/10th the price. I have never experienced another microbrand with this level of bezel turning goodness so close to what Rolex is doing. Ginault's dial hands and indices are also finely made and well assembled, you can tell the watchmaker puts pride and quality into making the watch. The bracelets that Ginault has is about 85% of what the oyster bracelet is which is already above and beyond what many other brands are doing, keep n mind Rolex bracelet alone is $2500!! I honestly think what Ginault is doing is amazing, superb quality and craft at a very affordable price!

@EverydayWatchGuy

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your insight into the Ginault watches 👍

A couple things having no part in my views... how the bezel sounds and branding. The bezel sound isn't important to me and never has been. While branding is even less important. It doesn't add or take away the beauty of a watch. I like the ginault and would definitely buy it.

Let’s also keep in mind that the Rolex costs literally 12x as much as the Ginault. Is the Rolex 12x better?!

@shamanprime

Жыл бұрын

True, but only naive people would expect to get a 12x better watch (whatever that may mean). On the other hand, with the Sub you’ll get back your 12 bucks (at least) when you need to sell for any reason. So it’s also another relatively safe way to deposit your hard earned cash. With homages like the Silent, you’ll be lucky to get half what you paid for a few years down the line.

@nedflanders3769

Жыл бұрын

@@shamanprime For those of us who have not been able to get a Sub at the AD, the Ginault is a pretty darn good alternative. And for a watch that's only a grand, I could care less about getting my money back.

@Jedi391

Жыл бұрын

No, it’s not. I’d say the Silent Service is about 90% of the Sub at 1/12th the price.

@shamanprime

Жыл бұрын

@@nedflanders3769 I agree. Availability is the real deal breaker.

@ShashankD137

9 ай бұрын

@@shamanprimeyeah. I’m sick of it. I bought a nomos, a grand Seiko and a speedy at the same retailer who still won’t put me even on the list. I’ve started looking for alternatives now and this watch looks nice without being a knock off to the sub. Also considering the monta

The Silent service is the best 1k watch. You can always pick one up pre owned somewhere for around that price and its a killer piece

As always for the top brands, when you buy a Rolex you pay for the brand status more then the object itself, take this in mind!

Great job! Both are nice watches. I understand the lure of Rolex, but the Ginault has something the Rolex doesn't... it's not a Rolex, which I find more interesting and alluring. Subscribed.

I own a silent service and I agree with your assessment.

Especially for the price, the Ginault is just insanity. But if I am going to have to buy one for myself. I think I'd still go for the submariner. There is something about that design which makes it more versatile. It just eyes classy enough to still wear it under a suit.

Ginaults costs reflects the tolerances and quality of finishing that are required to make a super high quality diver at the most impressive price possible.

@nedflanders3769

Жыл бұрын

I agree... the level of quality and finishing is impressive at the price.

@Trollet532

Жыл бұрын

@@nedflanders3769 the most impressive for the price in the whole industry not counting fakes imo

That ginault is so good it really makes the rolex look overpriced. Would like them to offer a sw300 option for a small bump in price. This level of finishing deserves better than a 38 hour power reserve.

@nedflanders3769

Жыл бұрын

I'd be first in line if Ginault offered the SS with a Sellita 300.

@MrIsntitgreat

Жыл бұрын

I’d be second in line after Flanders

@timnorris6287

Жыл бұрын

That statement is the best way the two watches can be compared. The Rolex is overpriced, which put simply is Rolex is ripping you off.

@PocketUau

8 ай бұрын

Or La Joux-Perret

Another great video. I don’t think this takes many design features from the Sub any more than any other modern diver. It has different bezel knurling, sapphire bezel instead of ceramic, different slope on the bezel, no crown guards, different hands, bigger crown, different case shape, etc. If the watch is said to be a sub homage because of the hands being similar to the milsub, then so is the Omega 2254.50.00 and others. There are only so many things you can do to make a unique diver, and all divers share some of the same DNA, just like us. This same conundrum for design and originality also exists in other manufacturing arena such as knives, firearms, 2-way radios, shoes, bags, pens, etc-unless a radical and unconventional design is utilized. In my opinion the bezel action is better on the Ginault; it feels tighter and more refined. Although I have the ability to see how you arrived at your conclusions, I am just respectfully offering my differing observations to add to the discussion. I always appreciate your expertise and great videos. I hope you are blessed with happiness and continued success.

@EverydayWatchGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate your own insight on this video 👍

I agree with all your points! The Ginault is truly excellent and holds its own against the sub in more than one way. Thank you for your comparison of these two awesome watches!

@EverydayWatchGuy

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback

The other thing is just peace of mind. Your not walking around with a target on your wrist for thieves to spot, which may or may not be an issue where you live. It’s also not such a big deal if you lose it. I think there are lots of people who would just be more comfortable wearing a watch at the Ginault price point.

Great transparency at the start. Well done.

@EverydayWatchGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback 👍

I‘d like to weigh in on the Hommage issue. The term, often intentionally, I think, is used far too loosely. In the true sense, a Hommage IMO is a watch that honors a long out of production and hardly available watch by bringing it back in a modern form with updated technical and some own style features. That is a good and morally defensible thing, I would argue. Which is different from a watch that calls itself Hommage but is nothing but an inexpensive copy of a popular model, that brings nothing of its own to the table, and derived its entire appeal from being a lookalike at a cheap price. Here I am firmly in the disapproval camp that has no love for that. What about the Ginault? To begin with, borrowing some isolated design element is not a Hommage. For example, the Rolex Milspec of old was not a Hommage to the Omega seamaster just because it used its hands. The Silent Service, while incorporating a case design similar to a Sub without crownguards, and a dial design that seems derived from a vintage Seamaster, to my eye is a much improved design over the Seamaster that by virtue of its outstanding aesthetics stands on its own feet, with a bezel entirely its own. Add to that the superb logo design which adds to the quality of the watch by virtue of its beauty and execution (as opposed to copy watches where the entire appeal is the copied design, and the logo a boring add-on). So no, the Silent Service is neither a copy nor a Hommage in any sense of the word but a great watch in its own right. What about the OR and OR2 from Ginault? The similarity to the 5 digit Subs is undeniable. Yet, I would argue, many of the models are not primarily a copy. The no date OR model with golden sand lume IMO is a true and deserving Hommage to the Rolex Milspec. The golden sand lume OR model with blue bezel and golden bezel numbers adds design features that no Rolex had. The bezels of the OR2 do heavily borrow from that of the current Rolex Seadweller, yet by combining it with a Sub case, having that highly appealing own logo design and, which applies to all Ginault models, adding another quality of its own, namely offering superb materials and finishing qualities at a very good price, these watches have convinced me based on their own merit. IMO, Ginault offers what Rolex offered 50 years ago: superior quality/price ratio with a highly appealing design, overall creating a package that stands on its own feet. I am a fan.

@timnorris6287

Жыл бұрын

Agreed... and I've owned 20 Rolex watches. Rolex is overpriced.

Handled both. The Sub is clearly better but not $10k more better. I’d rather have a Tudor BB than a Sub. Imagine misplacing $11k, or having your face bashed in on the street for thieves to take your easily identifiable Rolex. Tudor is the more sane option, under the radar. And this Ginault is a fun option as well if you appreciate good design and quality. Where that design comes from who knows, but a watch can only be done in so many iterations. At some point you’ll have to redo design cues again. I’ve see. What smaller brands try to do with their designs to be “original” but they’re just ugly, original but ugly. You can’t beat old school classic design…it’s why it’s the most popular and the best.

@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78

9 ай бұрын

I concur.

What is the warranty on the Ginault Silent Service? I don't see it on their website.

Love my Ginault Ocean Rover.

congrats on the sub!

No logo on the clasp is a miss by Ginalult. Shame about the ghost date too.. Does that movement come in a no date variant? Power reserve is no big deal. We buy automatics to interact with them, otherwise we would be all wearing quartz with its improved accuracy.

@nedflanders3769

Жыл бұрын

well.. I have no ghost date position, because I have the cyclops date version. 😁

@driller7714

9 ай бұрын

Mine stayed on the bracelet for maybe half an hour before I stuck it on a black leather strap. I know, diver and leather strap. But it looks so good!

How about a Ginault vs TC submariner ?

Great comparison! Your cat is cute!

@bud_zdorovim

5 ай бұрын

i have the same color cat ))

How is the winding action on the genault? I hate the grainy hard resistance of the sw200-1.

@EverydayWatchGuy

7 ай бұрын

Winding action is smooth 👍

@maitrehg

29 күн бұрын

SW200 are always hard to wind. Feels very cheap. SW300 are silky smooth.

For the price, I think I would be looking at Monta instead

This should be good 😊

Kinetic Continuous is the funniest example of "copy my homework but make it look different" I've ever seen. Ginault really did a good job making Rolex look like the fools they are. Rolex watches are $3000 affairs at best with the lackluster fit and finish they offer. Branding once again "justifies" selling a kidney. Fun fact: Many claim Rolex invented 904l Steel, while in reality all they do is produce the alloy in their own foundries. Omega used the alloy in the seventies under COMEX's suggestion, about 15 years before Rolex first did.

I prefer my high end Seiko or Tudor bezel sound that’s for sure. What mechanism do Rolex and Ginault use?

@Dochorahan

Жыл бұрын

Ball bearing. And they’re similar. I have both. Seiko and Tudor is also good. All of those are better than Omega bezels lol. Sold my seamasters because they sounded and felt cheap, and also were difficult to service, my watchmaker showed me why they were inferior design to ball bearing design from Tudor or Rolex

Looks more like the Omega Seamster 300 ref 165.024 than a Rolex.

Rolex bezel isn't "coin-edged" it's scalloped.

Not easy to find preowned.

Shame that Ginault warns against any hand winding.

You are a rolex fanboy clearly.

You should compare the San Martin Rolex homage against the silent service you will be surprised especially how much you pay for a San Martin quality is top notch

Ginault is a nice watch. Don't ever compare to the SUB though. No comparison.

This is like comparing Mercedes and a Fiat. Rolex outperforms the Ginault in every aspect including better value for money if that is possible.

When you look close on the ginault there are just too many tool marks on the watch, around the bezel and on top of the case lugs. They are small but for the price that is unacceptable. The Rolex is much more refined watch overall.

Never liked Mercedes hands . Wouldn't buy the Rolex .

@23727bgk

Жыл бұрын

I agree totally. I have a large watch collection and my favorite dive watch is my sand lume original Ocean Rover with sword hands. I plan to buy a Silent Service soon. My only complaint with the SS is it should have a 70 hour power reserve. If this could be done for a few hundred dollars more it would be worth it to me. The sapphire lumed bezel is a nice touch as well.

Can't believe my comment has been erased so much for being able to speak the truth I understand most people can't handle it guess that's why my channel is growing so fast. Also can't help but say bueller bueller has anybody seen Ferris bueller lmao

No lume pip and unsigned clasp is disappointing on an otherwise stellar watch. As for the Sub, its legacy speaks for itself.

You're shilling for Ginualt too, huh?

Crazy… what? You know it’s not even close. Glad you like the watch but come on. You know it’s not a Sub.

So basically a copy... a mix between submariner and omega planet ocean... of course is gonna be cheaper. They didn’t spend the money or the time for design and movement development. Please, if you want a sub buy a sub. No need to buy substitutes. Your itch will not be satisfied.

@nedflanders3769

Жыл бұрын

LOL just go into the AD and buy one, right? 😉

@Jedi391

Жыл бұрын

Yes it will. I got this sudden desire to buy an automatic watch and focused on the Submariner. While I waited I bought a Silent Service on a lark. I also liked the Ginault story. One day a work buddy saw it and showed me his submariner the next day. I expected a lot more and holding/wearing the Sub was a disappointment. I realized I actuality prefer the Silent Service even though I’m sure the Sub is better, the bracelet integration is better on the Sub for example. The Sub is also more common and has a boring story, and you get that Rolex/douche image. In short, the SS did in fact scratch the itch.

@Dochorahan

Жыл бұрын

My itch will be satisfied because I prefer this to the Rolex, and also I’ll keep my extra $12k thanks. I don’t suggest you listen to strangers on the internet to convince you to buy an archaic item for the price of a used car because you have an “itch” to scratch. Grow up. There’s better things to do in life. That being said, I have Omegas, Tudors, Rolex…but people over blow how much you “need” a Rolex or Omega. They’re fantastic but they’re not life changing. Only buy what you can afford and keep what you love.

@driller7714

11 ай бұрын

yeah, I have to say that I think the itch has been scratched and the submariner has been scratched off the list. My next watch will be the much cheaper and every bit as awesome Omega Seamaster. I just wonder what to do with all of the money I’m saving not buying a submariner. Maybe a Speedy as well and still money to spare.

@nedflanders3769

10 ай бұрын

@@driller7714 good choice. I love my Seamaster diver 300 with black wave dial!