Dante Ross: Grand Puba & Lord Jamar Egos Led To Brand Nubian Breakup
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Yanadameen Godcast episode 271, segment #2
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Lord Jamar' s 5% album was a slept on gem and that booklet that came inside that CD gave me a historical understanding of the 5% nation. Favorite track on that project is "The Cipher". I still play it to this day....
@Seanljohnsonsr235
Жыл бұрын
Classic album
@user-wb7nv9ht1g
Жыл бұрын
Haha, he's so ridiculous it's funny
@deezy81
11 ай бұрын
We need another one.
The first three Brand Nubian albums are all classics, but In God We Trust was special.
@jamainedodds3259
Жыл бұрын
Everything is everything....🔥🚬😤
@757to704
Жыл бұрын
Word
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
Umm...One for all is their best album. Got 5 mics in the source.
@swanm3ta850
Жыл бұрын
@@futurefind674 Ummmmm so because one writer gave All For One 5 mics, then that automatically makes All For One their best album, according to your logic… this is why rap fans be having the worst opinions lmao! I bet you’re one of those dudes who rates rappers based on the amount of albums they sell…
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
@@swanm3ta850 Lol. I just mentioned it as proof of my own opinion, Ma'am. May I suggest Midol? Every woman I've ever known says it's helped THEM with their menstrual cramps, too! 😉👌🏾
Brand Nubian needs to be talked about way more when we discuss rap groups who lost what most people acknowledge as their head member in Puba, yet it's debatable that their sophomore album was even better. How they rebounded after Puba left was historical.
@CantTellYou
Жыл бұрын
Everything Is Everything doesn’t get talked about enough either IMO... all without Puba too, Jamar was at the forefront of the wave orchestrating live musicians for the production, and it’s just a fully cohesive album. I feel like it made way more of an impact & influence on the future than people would like to give it credit for...
The beat on Wake UP is one of the dopest beats from that era of Hip Hop. Puba crushed it! I still listen to that song on a regular basis.
@BuddyfolksJudah
4 ай бұрын
Sample is Another Day by Ray Goodman and Brown also Roy Ayers for the hook
Sadat X was the real One ! “/Never Front on my Brothas/ Take care of them before I take care of others ! / “
This is why I love hip hop and we gotta give it up to all our pioneers.Salute to the Architects 🫡
Don't let it go to your head really has a strong meaning to me know. Alamo and myself had a few conversations about what you spoke on. Brand Nubian taught many people who we really are and what we stand for. In God We Trust was heat. Hopefully another BN album to add to hip hop history.🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤
Appreciate the honesty and transparency during this reflection Lord.
1st Brand Nubian Album?!....1 of The Most Underrated Hip Hop Albums EVER!! 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
It's funny how ego's broke up the group. But the group did a song called "Don't Let It Go To Your Head" talking about egos.
@CantTellYou
Жыл бұрын
😂 Ironic but makes perfect sense! By the time they reunited for that, they grew & learned so much more
@dissent6812
Жыл бұрын
@@CantTellYou and a track called just don't learn
I believe Diamond looped his version of the Lou Donaldson BECAUSE Prince Paul and De La used it first to change it up. Because the loop starts with the snare and loops around to a drum shuffle then back to the snare. That change up in the loop drew me into the song then when he dropped the "Rocky" horn on it... It was a WRAP for me! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Good to see Lord Jamar has grown up a bit
Once again, Jamar, ask Large Professor how he feels about this. R.I.P. Paul C.
@TheSstretch68
Жыл бұрын
TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!!! PAUL C IS AN UNKNOWN LEGENDARY PRODUCER!!!!!!!
@jonpoetical
Жыл бұрын
"Cause I don't wear no Stetson hats like Paul C!" RIP Paul C and DOOM!
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
Paul C was simply the dude who knew certain producer tricks, like filtering and beat and sample drops. He taught people like Extra P, Eric B, D.J. Polo, and Organized Konfusion how to get the most out of their music. Nobody's really ever heard any production from him, so how they know he was a great producer is beyond me. Some people just want to sound more knowledgeable than they really are. 🤷🏾♂️🤣
@jonpoetical
Жыл бұрын
@@futurefind674 His Drums are one of the most sampled drums in History. He did a slew of beats...
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
@@jonpoetical Name them.
Egos always break up the groups…peoples heads get big. Peace to the God Lord J.
@jblack5323
Жыл бұрын
Ego brings paranoia
@williammorgan8346
Жыл бұрын
Don't let it go to your head now
I didn't know about the 85%,10% and 5% until Brand Nubian. Salute Lord J, Puba, Sadat X, Alamo, Stud Doogie(RIP) and Sincere and the SD-50'S. RIP Geeby Dajani and John Gamble.
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
Damn, did you miss anybody...? 😂🤣
@CantTellYou
Жыл бұрын
@@futurefind674 😂 salute Henry Templeton, the janitor in the studio where they recorded “In God We Trust”
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
@@CantTellYou 🤣😅🤣😅
@deezy81
11 ай бұрын
Never knew John Gamble died, Rest In Peace to him.
That Puba’s I See Dead People on his Retroactive album was super slept on.. 🔥🔥
To Lord Jamar. Whats stopping Brand Nubian from reuniting and creating new music? You guys still have the talent, skills, and resources. I believe you guys can release new music and crush the game. Your music is sorely missed and needed. And this is coming from a man that remembers you before you started rhyming, hanging out on Huegonot St in front of The Chatter Box.
@ltopomcfly5583
Жыл бұрын
Man, they're middle aged dads & husbands. The deals they get now would ask them to tour for months and probably get way less money than they made before. Music business has changed with 360 deals. You don't see many older artists still going because its all about the label making the money.
@daltonhanleyjr4142
Жыл бұрын
@@ltopomcfly5583Touring is different from dropping music. Many artists are independent and they are doing their thing with downloads and KZread. Lord Jamar has a studio and is pretty active making beats and writing rhymes, Derrick X is still active. I haven't heard anything from Puba in a while. Brand Nubian are masters in their craft, if these microwave rappers can drop tunes every week. I would hope that Brand Nubian could too.
@wisethescholar5779
Жыл бұрын
@@daltonhanleyjr4142 Grand Puba released " Black from the Future" back in 2016.. fairly recent.
@daltonhanleyjr4142
Жыл бұрын
@@wisethescholar5779 I have that one. It actually was made in 2014/2015. It's almost 10 years ago. These guys should try to make some music at least every 12-15 months
@SpookOneMusic
Жыл бұрын
@ltopomcfly5583 what makes you think they need deals?
Don’t forget the legendary PAUL C!!!! LARGE PRO’s mentor. He was another white producer putting in work.
@fredicagoillanoise1309
Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@Seanljohnsonsr235
Жыл бұрын
He was ill
@jeanemlicar
8 ай бұрын
Didn’t Paul C put Organized Konfuzion on back in the days???
I love how he keeps calling puba max ! Which is short for his first name which is maxwell
Thanks for this real insight into the business back in the day verses now.. dope content!!
The SD-50'S mix of "Wake Up" was dope as hell to me.
@Seanljohnsonsr235
Жыл бұрын
It was alright
@williammorgan8346
Жыл бұрын
Me too I started liking it better than the original
@MD-DLive
Жыл бұрын
@@Seanljohnsonsr235yeah. I like the original one better!
Arthur Baker was before Rick Ruben...
Great interview 🔥
9:03 Mature, introspective and hilarious all at the same time. Great interview
Step to The Rear is one of my Fav Puba songs
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
I was at the Palladium back in '91, when Brand Nubian, KMD, and Leaders Of The New School were doing a showcase, and Brand Nubian were performing without Puba, and everybody was like "Welp, looks like Puba's pulled another Puba...!" 😂, and all of a sudden, you hear the beat start uo, and here comes Puba, strolling onto the stage, to a roaring crowd, Hilfigered down to his socks, with a backpack, and a towel, doing "Step To The Rear"! Honest to GOD, you could see the envy in Jamar's face. He stood to the side, not saying a thing, while Sadat took care of all the hype man duties. Plus, Alamo was denied access to the D.J. set, by somebody I'd never seen before, and was sulking on the side, smoking a blunt on stage. I'll never forget that show as long as I live. It was just as funny as it was entertaining. 😅😅😅😅😅
@doncatalog
Жыл бұрын
@@futurefind674 Salute!!! Thanks for sharing. No wonder Jamar came so hard on that next album without Puba.
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
@doncatalog Yeah, you could tell he was the happiest out of the whole crew. I liked Jamar though, and thought he was probably the second most important member of Brand Nubian because he truly embodied the 5% teachings, more than anyone else in the group. But in all honesty, it would've been some real flamboyant ish if it were just Puba and Sadat. I believe that's what it was supposed to be initially, but Sadat was loyal to Jamar and wouldn't do any projects without him, which was also smart because Puba IS such a habitual flake. 😅🤣 I'm actually FROM New Rochelle where they're from too, so a lot of stuff that went on, we know, that no one outside of New Rochelle knows.
@doncatalog
Жыл бұрын
@@futurefind674 Lord Jamar did his best work on that second album. Sadat truly became Sadat on the third. If they had kept putting pressure on each other and working as a group, we would have heard some unbeatable material.
@georgethompson8196
Жыл бұрын
@@futurefind674those were the days!!! PUBA AKA HAGI GOD was/is That Dude!!!!
They're killn Puba & I'm lovin' it!! 😂😂😂 & I agree wit dem both 1000% but, I got luv 4 Puba...his solo joints were major on 1 4 All. ✊🏽😁❤️
I am from Cali and in God we trust just hits different
Lord Jamar ain’t tryna pay white people for a better internet connection. 😂 Holler at me fam… black IT Specialist here
Gotta get my hands on that hoodie!
When I heard the Arabic chant and those hard drums fading in at the beginning of "In God We Trust" I said "AWW SHIT!!... BRAND NUBIAN AIN'T PLAYIN!!
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
That shit was wack. Lol.
@fredicagoillanoise1309
Жыл бұрын
@@futurefind674 that's your opinion.
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
@@fredicagoillanoise1309 It is. 🤷🏾♂️
Dante is on point with In God We Trust besting Reel to Reel. R2R is dope but In God We Trust is a hip hop milestone album. Meaning, the hip hop world is different after the album is released.
In god we trust was my favorite album!!
Plus Puba was doing shiesty shit behind X and J back. Not just an ego issue.
Didn't that Wild Magnolias beat become "3 Strikes 5000 (Remix) " for 3rd Bass?
Real Hip Hop lives here!
I want to hear the Dante Ross video
He said Lord J the most militant of the Godz😂😂😂😂😅
Jamar wasn't/isn't near PUBA Level
This was a hood interview
DON’T FORGET MIKE DEAN ANOTHER YT PRODUCER PUTTING IN THE WORK ‼️🗣️‼️
Peace
“Red eye with the dead eye”
Even the cover was dizope..in the truck
Diggin the hat. Steeler Nation.
Help Keith Murray don't clown him
Been a Brand Nubian fan since they first dropped. They collaborated with Common Sense in a song titled “Maybe Some Day” never got the recognition it highly deserves.. 🫡🔥💯
😂😂 Lord Jamar will live long
Yo, who dis BUILD POWER? 😂😂 I just learned that one!
@deezy81
11 ай бұрын
🙅🏿♂️85%ers
Proper communication helps.
Brand Nubian !
Second album was their best
I met BRAND NUBIAN & I can definitely say in that moment Sadat X was the Coolest and most Humble to talk too… that title is probably ab Actual Fact!
@supremesun4580
Жыл бұрын
An Actual Fact Typo
@grinchoi1
4 ай бұрын
Co-sign. Me and my mans chopped it up with Dotty X after a show once. Dude was cool as hell.
Man. The whole Brand Nubian crew was the truth.
Sadat's Wild Cowboys thought it was a Classic
@deezy81
11 ай бұрын
Had Regina Hall on there also.
AWESOME WORK
They all had a verse as a group on the RA the Rugged man posse on his last album and i believe Puba had a verse on the 110 Emcess with k slay
Charlie Brown was amazing emcee dad never got true shot to shine
Respect to Dante…….GO STEELERS!!!
could believe it
RIP Geeby
@fredicagoillanoise1309
Жыл бұрын
And, John Gamble
I always skip the Stimulated Dummies version of Wake Up……but its still a good beat.
@fredicagoillanoise1309
Жыл бұрын
I been up on SD-50'S since Shazzy first album and their D Nice "Crumbs On The Table" Remix.
I felt the energy on both albums too bad bootleg infected the minds of ngz on the corners that 3 albums for $10.00 was compelling
It's crazy tho fr cause Mad white folk, male and female producing dope beats and phat on the turntables..I never thought I see the day but it's here..I aint really mad at em tho.💯✊🏾
Evan though he did Step to the rear. Donte is still a scrub
Where Rah Digga and Godfrey?
If yall know anything about Virgos we are very stubborn when we stand on something.. and I wouldn't say my brother had an ego but strong opinions
I was fucking with Dante Ross and Gibby when they had the crib by the seaport- he was fucking with with a Rock group back then-
@FirstLast-ms6hn
Жыл бұрын
Used to get beats from him trying to get a deal at the same time.
He made some good valid points, and just to be honest if black artists had of did what they were supposed to do in the 90s they wouldn't have to relinquish power to these "whyte people" Because the only thing they're going to do with, it is exploit the shit out of it... and there's nothing that you can say to refute that because look at the game now. This is another reason why we just don't understand what's really going on because they changed our mentality back then, it was all about progress and uplifting black folks with hip-hop, but all the artists squandered their chance. And I'm so disappointed in all my favorite groups from Wu Tang all the way down to Goodie Mob. But I do understand that they were young.
Why does a Black adult with knowledge of self use the N word in public? Won't say the F word about gay people or the K word about Jewish people. Black people should get the same respect. People care about a dog but not a N word.....
@Seanljohnsonsr235
Жыл бұрын
Your kidding me nigga 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@chemistryrussell
9 ай бұрын
There are even more contradictions than that...but I'll chill. WAY more, that I have been mulling over for years.
Paul C. I leave it there.
Respect but could yall stop pushin blackmarket software befor each show?
I was making beats and rapping in the 80's and I was white........LOL
8:49? pause
Foundation is the best album.
@kwamesarfo-mensah5785
5 ай бұрын
Foundation was an underrated album!
@kwamesarfo-mensah5785
5 ай бұрын
Foundation was an underrated album!
@dibargamboa4930
4 ай бұрын
@@kwamesarfo-mensah5785 very underrated that could've put more singles out
No disrespect to Puba, but I actually like Brand Nubian without him. In God We Trust is my favorite and in my opinion their best album.
@Seanljohnsonsr235
Жыл бұрын
Bugging
@isaactalton1504
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@futurefind674
Жыл бұрын
@@Seanljohnsonsr235For real. They only had two singles from that album.
I always hated the Stimulated Dummies version of Wake Up. That's a skip for me on an album with not a lot of skipables.
Grand Puba never needed the group to be a star....he should have an EGO he was so much better than lord jamar
@Seanljohnsonsr235
Жыл бұрын
Chill
@shawntaylor5557
Жыл бұрын
@@Seanljohnsonsr235 I was just stating my opinion on an EGO in this Puba had the skills to walk it like he talk it the same can't be said for Lord Jamar.
@ShabazztheGreaterTaker
Жыл бұрын
Emphatically NO! All three are nice! Ain't no Divide & Conquer here. EGO is Edging God Out or Erasing God Out....Grand Puba had his start with Masters of Ceremony and nice; however, each of the three could and can hold their own individually and it has been proven with their respective solo releases. Also, Sadat has been on plenty of features, more than Puba or Lord Jamar. Puba had no right to have any type ego over his Brothers.
Ez Mil - ft. Eminem - Realest
this man said some disrespectful ish about Kool G Rap last year.. smh
@williammorgan8346
Жыл бұрын
G raps a rap god
@deezy81
11 ай бұрын
What did he say?
@ClasherSports
11 ай бұрын
@@deezy81 something bout g raps career being a failure... some nonsense like that.. google search dante ross and kool g rap
Whispering: Dante is a scrub
The god hagi he allah god islam exact but let me slow down cause 85 cant get with that
Black groups always breakup at the height of their success. ALWAYS.
@dn30001
Жыл бұрын
THat's why I give De La Soul the ultimate respect
@NIM11a
Жыл бұрын
@@dn30001 Thanks for reminding me bc I did NOT want to be right.
@dn30001
Жыл бұрын
@@NIM11a you are correct in the sense that it always happens besides De La (RIP Dave) . I can't think of any other major groups that stuck it out throughout the years. Even with groups such as the Roots...you have to consider the times they deleted and added members from internal beef even though the group still exist. Peace.
@NIM11a
Жыл бұрын
@@dn30001 Peace
@jjordan6066
Жыл бұрын
@@dn30001 I wouldnt add the Roots to that list.
Both solo albums was the truth.
Lord Jamar was only amazing when he was trying to outrap Puba. Once they broke up, Jamar became permanent mid.
@BThaSmoovUno
Жыл бұрын
That's a GodDamn Lie!
@envyops
Жыл бұрын
@@BThaSmoovUno Name the songs.
Lord your very disrespectful to Dante Ross … relax man
Always a "J" in the background. Get them out of bfolks affairs