I thought about it and submitted to 4 different ones. They all claimed to be VERY strict on who they published. They said only 10% of people actually make it through, but they LOVED my story and my book and wanted to sign me right away! I was skeptical because nothing comes that easily for me. So I did more research and decided against it. I am now killing my darlings in that same book because it needed more edits. Lol 😅

@terrim8572

6 ай бұрын

Which one was it? Greenleaf or SheWrites?

@frankeinsteinrestoration8250

5 ай бұрын

I was almost caught by Olympia publishers.2.4 k they wanted 😂

@inuzuki8605

5 ай бұрын

@@terrim8572 Fulton Books was one. There was also, Page Publishing, Tellwell Publishing, and Durrance Publishing (Durrance was charging people upward of 25K to publish there book. WHAT???

@inuzuki8605

5 ай бұрын

@@frankeinsteinrestoration8250 Apparently, 2.4K is cheap because the one I got accepted by wanted no less than 5K.

As an editor who is interested in diving into publishing, this is great information. If I were to be a hybrid publisher, I would allow the author to keep the rights to their work, only charge for book covers, marketing/platforms they wish to use. I would provide all levels of editing and formatting for free. Whatever royalties they earn from sales, they would keep. I would make it clear that there is no guarantee of the work not being a bestseller, or be available in all bookstores. Some of us do want to see authors genuinely succeed.

@markellott5620

2 жыл бұрын

I would never sign a contract that involved giving up my rights. I fail to understand why anyone would. What you are proposing falls within self publishing services rather than hybrid. Going under that banner avoids the baggage that comes with hybrid.

I almost fell for one of these when I was writing my novel. In some ways it was a little bit of a vanity project in that I wrote it mostly for myself to get through a tough spot in my life and I just wanted to learn how to get it out for others to possibly enjoy. I didn't know about self publishing yet and traditional publishing wasn't really giving me the time of day to even reject me. The marketing from one of these "hybrid publishers" was insanely aggressive. They wanted a thousand dollars to publish me which probably wasn't terrible if the editing, cover design, and book distribution were of decent quality. They actually sort of shot themselves in the foot because thy boasted about their high rating on the Better Business Bureau so I looked them up and found literally hundreds of people writing scathing complaints about them with every response from the vanity publisher being how the customer/author was somehow wrong or there was simply a misunderstanding and the case was closed. Needless to say I immediately ghosted them and eventually found Amazon KDP. I wouldn't say I've struck gold going the self publishing route by any means but I am very glad I did not get caught up with that company. It was also kind of fun to learn about how to do certain things like buy ISBNs, format a book, design a cover, etc.

@AlyssaMatesic

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'm glad you dodged that disaster!

@derekb.4292

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlyssaMatesic thank you, me too!

@alandavies3727

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Derek your comment was interesting. I’ve gone down a different route. I’ve found a really good self publisher. It’s rather expensive but their quality of work is fabulous. They also do a rather fun one minute animated cartoon to go with your book if it’s a childrens book. This is included in their deal. I did the research on self publishers before I found the right one. I’ve now published five books in less than a year with them. My next step was to hire a PR marketing company. If you look up my name you’ll find my books.

@artistseye1

2 жыл бұрын

First clue it was a scam is that it would never cost only $1000.00 for a good publisher's services. Never happen. Try at least 5-10,000 dollars.

Thanks, Alyssa. One thing I'm curious about is statistics for self-publishers, particularly sales statistics. I do know this is going to vary wildly depending on the author's platform, marketing effort, and (I hope) the investment they put into editing. I find it difficult to determine what is a reasonable investment in a first book, where self-publishing is always an option if traditional publishing doesn't work out. I know this is a complex topic. After all, even I have not worked this out. I'd appreciate any insight you may have. As for hybrid publishing, I do think there is a spot in the marketplace for someone to honestly bundle editing, publishing, and marketing services together and sell these in a flexible package, providing legitimate help to authors who lack business savvy. Instead, it seems like many describing themselves as hybrid publishers are repackaged vanity publishers, and that's unfortunate. Perhaps we abandoned tarring and feathering too early.

Thanks for the video, it was very informative. I've been writing for years, since I was a child, and I finally decided and managed to get my book published in December, after months of working with a company to get it published. I have to say that I wished that I'd seen this video a couple of years ago. After watching this video I must say that I got this really sick feeling in my stomach, because it described my dealings with a "certain" publishing company to a t. Come to find out that I was working with a vanity press. I was so desperate to get my book published before the passing of my then terminally ill grandmother, that I didn't do the proper research into the company. I was so happy to be approached that I told myself that I was getting an amazing deal after reading the pamphlet. I coughed up the $1,500 to publish my book without further thought, thinking this was normal since I had no prior knowledge of what traditional publishing was. Even though my work is out, there has been no aggressive promoting of my book unless I paid extra on top of the monthly installments I was already making. I pretty much had to do it all myself. I see now where I went wrong and will take this as a learning experience. Thankfully, I own all the rights to my book. Hopefully, when my contract is up in May of 2023, I can begin the process of republishing my book the proper way. Speaking of which, do you think that you could make a video on republishing an already published book?

@tattoonkids7138

4 ай бұрын

So sorry for your experience but happy you learned from it! Thank you for sharing!

Thanks for shedding light on this. I came across one of these "hybrid" publishers. It all sounded good, of course. But then when they told me their services would cost between $4,000.00-$8,000.00, I realized I might as well self-publish as you mentioned in the video. The problem is since you have to pay all this money 💰 up front, there's literally no incentive for them to work for you to sell your book! Their marketing services costs money too, therefore, if you sell 0 books, they've already made their money from you. I usually stop just short of calling it a scam (it's fee-for-service which is a valid business model), but in my opinion hybrid publishing is just a euphemism for vanity press! I believe traditional or self publish. 😉

Thank you! So Helpful!!!

I wish I saw this video B4 I signed the contract w/ the hybrid publisher. I get calls every week from other hybrid publishers eager to scam me out of money.

Great work here. I knew pretty much all of this and in my different FB writers' groups, this is discussed more than any other publishing industry issue. I feel for authors who have been taken advantage of!

Thanks so much Alyssa!

Thanks for this. I think someone charging you to publish your book should ring alarm bells.

@AlyssaMatesic

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly--they should care first about getting your voice out there, rather than your money!

Glad I found your channel👍I feel like I need a freelance editor to get my memoir ready to launch on KDP

At one point, I was nearly sucked into the "promises" of a hybrid publisher... Become aware folks, and do your research. Good video, thank you!

Great information. Thank you for sharing your insight.

Great post Alyssa! Thank you.

Thanks for this video - and your channel. I’m glad I watched this video as earlier this week. I was approached by Olympia publishers for my manuscript. After watching your video, I’m going to speak with them to learn a bit more before I go any further with them. Regardless, I’m going to reject any offer for a hybrid, publishing contract and only accept a traditional offered. Thanks again for all you provide us!

all it is, is spammers, scammers, and con-men ...nothing more.

Thanks for, what amounts to a, warning. Also, I’m glad you specified that these publishers are also know as “vanity publishers”, which is what I’ve always known them as.

Thank you, Alyssa! I wish I had seen this video 8 months ago before I signed up with MindStir media... 3 months into the project, they sent me a couple of edited suggestion out of the whole 260+ pages of my manuscript, so I ended up doing all the editing myself. The designers were not good to the point that I designed my own book cover. Formatting is done so badly that I could've done a better job myself without any experience in formatting.... and I'm still not sure when my book will be ready to finally get to the final printing phase! And of course, if I ever get to being published, I'll be making nothing. They claim that the whole process takes 90 days and the authors just sit back and let them do the work...NOT! This past 8 months have been nothing but disaster, disappointment, and regret for me.

Omg thanks for the information. I was considering doing a hybrid publishing. But after hearing the results of the report I now know better not to. Besides the contact for acquisition was asking for potential rights on my next book.

Helpful information!

What are some recommended hybrid publishers?

Thank you for these valuable insights.

@AlyssaMatesic

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@rachmondhoward2125

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlyssaMatesic Hi Alyssa, I visited your website for the services you render. I have completed my second non-fiction book but still struggling to find a literary agent. I have written to about 30 of them in the USA and UK. Its been three weeks and I am still waiting for a response. My proposal and query letter were professionally written by a person like you who specialises in providing such services. Are you a literary agent or could you refer me to someone.

This video was 100% helpful to me. 🙏🏽

@AlyssaMatesic

11 ай бұрын

I'm glad to hear that! Thanks for commenting!

Thanks for your comments, I will continue to follow you. Lucille Medalis

thanks

yes that it i was just thinking about that a deeper dive

It was meant for me to see this video. I kinda knew it was a wrap when I looked up the authors that worked with these said hybrid publishers. They had less than 300 reviews on Amazon and only about 50-100 reviews Good Reads. Yet they’re bestsellers 🤔. Yeah…

Very informative and detailed! No, I would not consider a hybrid publisher, but I am grateful for this information, which supports my decisions for the path I've decided. Thanks so much for the video!

@AlyssaMatesic

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, S.D.!

@tattoonkids7138

4 ай бұрын

I'm curious, if you don't mind me asking, which path did you decide to take?

@SDHuston

4 ай бұрын

@@tattoonkids7138 I'm self-publishing. That's the right decision for me because of my personality and where I am in my life (this stage of my life). But it's not the right decision for everyone. It's so wonderful that Alyssa brings these topics forward so writers can know all the publishing paths available to them!

Very helpful. Anyone here done hybrid with 'The Book Guild Publishing' in the UK?

The first 1 charged me an obscene amount for their services, so I dismissed them, this 1 a friend founds a lot better but I've told them I wont be played and as long as their straight with me, I'll work with them. I hope things will work out between us.

Thanks, Alyssa. This info had strengthened my decision. Pursue the Traditional path first. I guess this is where one hopes to find an angel-agent, sorry. :)

@AlyssaMatesic

2 жыл бұрын

You got this!

OMG!!! Allyssa, you are so right.. I wish I would have stumble across you before publishing and launching with a hybrid publisher. I've paid for numerous book exhibits, and promotion.. My book is selling on Amazon, Barnes and noble, Apple itunes, Walmart, Target Stores, and many Retailers and brick and mortar book stores..Even many country such as Germany, Sweden, France, Portugal, Japan, South Africa, Spain, and many more country to mention has my book for sale.. I have friends and family that orders copies of my book..I even ordered a copy of my own book. Just recently I've checked my Authors Portal, with statements of my book sales, it only made 1 ebook sales..I think I've been ripped off. Can I sue them, or what should I do next? Please help.😢🤕 Thank you..Ps Bt

If you could further clarify what "hybrid publishing" means, I would appreciate it. Several years ago I heard about a service offered by a traditional publisher in which an author could pay to have their book produced (and presumably marketed) by that publisher, for a fee. (I don't want to mention the name of the publisher here, but I will say that the "parent" company is now owned by Harper Collins) The company used the clout of their traditional publishing arm to convince authors to sign on with them This was SLIGHTLY different from a typical vanity press because it presumably carried the benefits of working with a large publishing house. (And also the credibility.) Is this where the confusion come in and why the company is called a "hybrid publisher?" Other people have commented that "hybrid publishing" is what authors do who are published both traditionally and independently. (I fit that category and call myself a "hybrid author.")

😮fhank goodness i stubled upon this video before accepting thier shady offer

I don't understand why people are calling vanity publishers 'hybrid publishers'. Hybrid means traditionally published for some books, and self published for others. There are other services that I don't think really count as vanity publishers. Things that sort of gather helpful resources -- cover designers, editors, formatters, etc. in once place and cater to indie authors. If they are honest about what they are, you know you're paying for a service and not publishing a book. The problem is when they also take your rights and make promises.

@childesinthev.761

2 жыл бұрын

It's not people, it's the vanity publishers migrating to that designation, to exploit the ambiguity/positive association with the "hybrid author" designation (which is a perfectly legitimate situation where an author just happens to have some of their books with (a) traditional publisher(s) and other self-published ones).

What’s an aggregate publisher?

Hi I have published a book February 22 with an Hybrid contract to date I’ve not receive any royalties? I’ve a second book and I’m going to try self publishing

I filled out an online enquiry form for Dudley Court. The response I got was they don't publish children's books as she has no experience in this genre. Then she says as my budget was too low, no social media presence, never been published and no experience she will not consider me! Also how do you differentiate between legit and scammer if theyre all saying and promising the same thing?

Hi, guys how much is the ideal cost to publish a book?

Does hybrid publishing send you a manuscript to approve? Because my cousin used hybrid publishing out of London and paid them 3000 dollars for them to do all the work

I commented your other video, but now see you made a separate video about hybrid publishing. One of the owners I contacted said they need a big cut of the royalties cause it motivates them more to sell my book (not to mention the upfront pay I should give them of 8K pounds). Also searching their social platforms like instagram and facebook and the funny thing is that my own instagram has more followers than their site, also their youtube is dead, no activity for 3 years. Their 'marketing' as I would pay for is simply making an instagram post about a book that gets 2 views. So yeah it really seems like a bunch of lazy people just wanting to scam.

@AlyssaMatesic

5 ай бұрын

Yikes - glad you followed your instincts and declined to work with them!

A great report on hybrid/scam self-publishing. I have been a victim myself. Every warning that you gave, I experienced.

@AlyssaMatesic

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry to hear that you've been through this--I hope your current projects are faring much better!

@UncleIJT

Жыл бұрын

Im currently experiencing being scammed

Omg i just got offered two of theese from publishers one is 1900 and the other is 2000 its ridicluous im not paying that to publish a poetry book why cant they just offer me a traditional cobtract be easier to get the book edited and then self publish it

Hello what about Austinmacualay? I would like to know about them

You should "dive in" sooner and leave the advertising outside. Thank you.

Alyssa, I need help. I have been contacted by a firm calling itself The Literary Firm telling me my self-published book is scoring very high and is being considered for a traditional contract. Being self-published they are telling me I need to get my book licensed in my name. They are not asking for any money up front. My fear is the final selection of books to be published will be released on June 22, 2024. So, I could go through the process of getting it licensed and then not published. They are giving me a score of my book of 92.4 out of 98.0. Do you have any knowledge in this area. Thank you.

Most books, regardless of publishing path, lose money. Over 90% of traditionally published books don't earn out their advance. Self published authors lose almost ALL the time. Don't expect to make money. You will be disapointed.

Sounds a lot like academic journal publishing.

Hi.. just want to make a clarification, but not apologies just yet. After harassing the staff of my publishers company, they gave me a clarification of my book sales, the rest of the statement won't be available till July.. and my international book sale, is only print on demand, it rather makes sense. I guess there are some good hybrid publisher after all. It's just the statement of 1 book sale, why 1 and not 2 ? 😅 Anyhow I'm not Apologizing just yet, let's wait and see in July..but then again how would I know if the statement is accurate.. fingers crossed..

This is certainly helpful but seems like a plug for the status quo. Sure, you have to be careful about predatory behavior, but take into consideration some realities of traditional publishing. First, if you get a literary agent (95% of writers don't), they take between 10-20% of author deals upfront if they sell your work to a publisher. Then, most new authors pay about 90% of the book's cost to the publisher, sign away all rights (editorial and otherwise), and reimburse the publisher for any advance before retaining any kind of profit. Regarding book sale venues, it's up to the author to go above and beyond the agreement and get out to hawk their book to bookstores, look for press reviews, and secure endorsements. The publishing landscape is changing like everything else on Earth, and there are ways to get published that are filling the space created by that change. It is up to the author to figure out what is best for him/her but also to face the reality that they are as likely to become wealthy from publishing as they are from winning the lottery. The goal is to birth the child you've cultivated, and if hybrid publishing is one of these ways, give it its due course.

There’s only one path to take. You have to self publish. Looking for agents is a complete waste of time. You have to make sure that retain all rights to your work. The publisher that I use clearly lay out the costs. Once accepted, the ask for 25% as first instalment. Second phase they ask for 50% by this payment you’ll have a good look at the work that they’ve done on the editing. You don’t pay anything until you’ve 100% happy . Final payment will be when you have accepted the front cover that they have designed. I’m on my fifth book and I’m 100% happy. The only problem is marketing. This will be up to you, No book will have any chance of success unless it’s marketed. I hired a P R marketing company to promote the books. This eliminates these useless agents. I’ve come to the conclusion that these agents are protecting their own clientele. By rejecting everything that comes close to their own published authors. Good luck to all you budding authors,don’t let these people stop you from fulfilling your dream. Sometimes it doesn’t matter about the money, it’s your own satisfaction that counts. Once published you’ll always be know as an ‘author’

@markellott5620

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. I have teamed up with a small, very small, independent who mirrors the methods of the big publishers. We sell books in small amounts but the whole thing is honest.

A hybrid publisher "accepted" one of my novels and asked for $2000 to publish it. I declined.

@Arisu_BLAK

2 жыл бұрын

My cousin actually send her book to “hybrid publishing” they accepted her book and she actually paid them 3000 dollars for them to “publish “ her book. Okay well if they accepted it? Why pay for it? Anyway just lots of things don’t make sense with it. Like her manuscript, they are doing. She only has to approve it. Like I thought you had to do your own manuscript for self and traditional publishing.. scammers these days

@UncleIJT

Жыл бұрын

Wise move. I had one attempt to have me get a $10K loan for publishing/marketing.

I don't like calling these publishers "hybrid" publishers. It just sounds as though vanity publishers are trying to rebrand themselves in order to scam more unsuspecting authors. Prior to watching this video, every time I had heard the term hybrid publishing it had been in reference to authors who both independently publish some of their books and traditionally publish others.

There are no hybrid publishers. There is hybrid publishing and there are scams (e.g. vanity publishers). Hybrid publishING is when an author chooses traditional publishing for one book or series and self publishing for another book or series, for whatever reason.

@artistseye1

2 жыл бұрын

Actually you are wrong. Hybrid publishing is when a company does all the marketing, design, etc for a price.

What I hate about this type of videos is that she just kept yapping and yapping for 6 minutes about how she’s going to tell me what I already put down in the search box. It’s like, b, get to the fing point!!!!