Theyre both the same. The difference in this video is that the liion isn‘t charged. If you pierce a discharged battery it doesnt combust. The lithium combust in contact with water but that‘s a different thing. In my experience theyre equal in thermal runaway. It‘s essentially the same battery tech. Just the casing and electrolyte composition is different

@district99

10 ай бұрын

What about lifepo4?

@hexidev

9 ай бұрын

​@@district99that doesn't really catch fire. Or atleast way leas

@TheSphongleface

8 ай бұрын

This does not apply to LiPo because they normally don't discharge below 3.x volt/cell so you always have lots of energy in them.

@Imsure1587

5 ай бұрын

no it's true li ion batteries are really strong 😊

@user-ld8bz3rv3v

4 ай бұрын

I have done this with lipo batteries and they have no problem or rarely burn while most li ion batteries burn because they are not constructed in the safest way and usually have a short lifespan after a few years

Misleading title. More like charged vs uncharged battery.

Misleading video. That lithium ion battery wasn't charged enough for it to combust. If it was fully charged, it would also explode into flames. The only difference is that you can damage the lipo more easily, because it just has some aluminium foil as an enclosure, while the li-ion has a durable steel enclosure.

If you had used some water that lithium battery would blow

@mgwood6939

Жыл бұрын

You wrote exactly what I was going to say 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Lithium polymer batteries are also lithium ion. What you want to compare it with is lithium iron phosphate batteries. And yes, a charged lithium ion battery will burn. Either polymer or iron phosphate.

@MarissaTheMuse

9 ай бұрын

More detail please. These are both lithium polymer and therefore both lithium ion. Share more about the iron aspect

@beanapprentice1687

8 ай бұрын

Nickel-cobalt based li-ion batteries (the ones we usually refer to as simply “lithium ion”) are far more volatile than iron-phosphate based li-ion batteries (which we usually refer to as “lithium iron-phosphate”). They are all lithium ion batteries though, as they all rely on the motion of lithium ions through the electrolyte to produce their redox reaction.

@20cmusic

2 ай бұрын

Wrong. Both are Lithium ion battery. LI-po uses gel type polymer as a electrolyte others use liquid type. Its name has nothing to do with cathode material. Lithium iron phosphate(LFP) is a type of cathode material. Yoi can make Li-po with LFP or NCM whatever you want.

@The_Glory.

Ай бұрын

@@20cmusic hey 20c I have a question that i am really trying to figure out and would appreciate it if u could help me with it So i got this power bank with 20000mA that got swollen (two separate parts of 10000 attached) and I highly suppose it’s a Li ion battery considering their heavy armor foil outside and the bank is modern (manufactured around 3 years ago) I kept it in a safe area for some time before deciding to experiment with it (for once and only, out of scientific curiosity) after reading/watching a lot about what to expect and their composition. i checked their charge after that and it was still almost fully charged so i took it to a different location (exposed to air specifically within temperatures of 10-25 C including some rainy days too that may have touched the inner wires gently but they didn’t really soak in water) then i checked them after about two weeks and they were almost depleted. Then i went and applied the safety measures (glasses, fire resistant gloves, mask etc) and pierced it yet nothing happened, hence pierced bunch of more really deep holes in both batteries but saw literally nothing (i saw a crack in one of them only not both prior to the test and i could smell the gas so I expected one of them won’t react harshly but the other still was swollen) so i kept going and cracked them both open but no reaction with air was noticed, also i didn’t pour water directly on them but i had wet ish tools and sprinkled some drops on them (in fact i took some of the layers out and soak them in water but nothing happened). My question is simply what exactly happened? In other words were the batteries not Li ion at the first place or did that cold weather really got them died that they couldn’t even react with water? Or should they be really sinked in water to have a glimpse of any reaction? Thanks for reading all this if u have reached this point.

@The_Glory.

Ай бұрын

@@20cmusic hey 20c I have a question that i am really trying to figure out and would appreciate it if u could help me with it So i got this power bank with 20000mA that got swollen (two separate parts of 10000 attached) and I highly suppose it’s a Li ion battery considering their heavy armor foil outside and the bank is modern (manufactured around 3 years ago) I kept it in a safe area for some time before deciding to experiment with it (for once and only, out of scientific curiosity) after reading/watching a lot about what to expect and their composition. i checked their charge after that and it was still almost fully charged so i took it to a different location (exposed to air specifically within temperatures of 10-25 C including some rainy days too that may have touched the inner wires gently but they didn’t really soak in water) then i checked them after about two weeks and they were almost depleted. Then i went and applied the safety measures (glasses, fire resistant gloves, mask etc) and pierced it yet nothing happened, hence pierced bunch of more really deep holes in both batteries but saw literally nothing (i saw a crack in one of them only not both prior to the test and i could smell the gas so I expected one of them won’t react harshly but the other still was swollen) so i kept going and cracked them both open but no reaction with air was noticed, also i didn’t pour water directly on them but i had wet ish tools and sprinkled some drops on them (in fact i took some of the layers out and soak them in water but nothing happened). My question is simply what exactly happened? In other words were the batteries not Li ion at the first place or did that cold weather really got them died that they couldn’t even react with water? Or should they be really sinked in water to have a glimpse of any reaction? Thanks for reading all this if u have reached this point.

More like: Charged battery vs dead battery 😂

@OHHHHUSBANT

2 ай бұрын

Both combust if punctured

@loolyou

Ай бұрын

he hit the other battery too softly​@@OHHHHUSBANT

It's all safe if you don't smash that battery

That chrome lithium foil is wut they use in them Energizer batteries now I'm terrifying of throwing them away since they explode while interacting wit water

There's no such thing as a Lithium " polymer" battery. I think he meant Iron Phosphate LiFePO4 battery. The LiFePO4 battery has the edge over lithium-ion, both in terms of cycle life (it lasts 4-5x longer), and safety. This is a key advantage because lithium-ion batteries can overheat and even catch fire, while LiFePO4 does not.

@filippocara0510

12 күн бұрын

LiFePo4, li ion and lipo are 3 different types of battery

@filippocara0510

12 күн бұрын

Or better, they all use lithium ions but they have different electrolytes or materials inside

Now just pour some water on that lithium ion battery and see what happens

i have a lipo battery (but please do not reply that li ion and lipo are not the same)

Use water

Li ion in fully drained

@electronicsandewastescrapp7384

11 ай бұрын

fully drained is a misnomer. It will register zero at the terminals because of the BMS. The cell itself is likely still at least a couple volts. Of course still not the engery potential of a fully charged one.

BIAS VIDEOS EVER

I don’t think anyone realized that both of them would have exploded but it never showcases the li-on exploding because it was paused

I just made fire with my brother with a litium ion battery by accident. Learned our lesson for a life...

@alexisjuillard4816

3 ай бұрын

Can i ask you how and what li ion it was? Unprotected 18650, dented or shorted? Did it vent gases, flames, explode, what was the charge in there and the damage done (around not.to the battery obviously)? How did you manage to extinguish it, i m assuming you're not especially well educated on battery chemestry or anything just normal dude. And a normal dude would very likely do a bunch of things that would only make things worse, oh fire lets pour water right? No, i've no right to expect anyone in the general public to know.those specific things but lithium -amongst all the shit you can create attempting to help- reacts explosively with water. As in you jump into wayer with a block of solid lithium you die reactive. Videos of people throwing small pieces in water show explosions that have a blast radius (i m considerong the volume of displaced throw around water in a snapshot to the maximum size of the fireball on a grenade, even though there really isn't any fire but you can get an idea with the amount of dust and such) somewhere vetween a huge firecracker line take you hand off one, and a small grenade, depending on the size of the lithium or god forbit sodium or some similar shit

Note 7 battery vs note 8 battery😂

Я по литий ионному ударял, только дым вышел и всë. А полимерный вспыхнул! Оба были заряжены

Your phone battery vs turboflex battery

Great JOB

Lithium polymer battery is one type of lithium ion battery. 😮‍💨

They're both LiPo's

Now a lifpo4 had you done this to a lifpo4 then yes apparently Bevendean fully charged lifpo4 cells are pretty stable. Which makes youvwonder why lifpo4 cells are so much more expensive.

Maine aj hi ek swallowed lipo battery ko puncture karke mug ke paani me dalke dur vag gaya tha... socha kuch dhamaka hoga.... Lekin kuch bhi nahi hua😑😑🥴😢😢 Fir maine usko unpack kiya pura khol fiya boht lambi lambi 4-5 sheet nikla... aur fir kuch kaise ajib sa smell walaa gas banne laga tha.... Mujhe thik nhi laga toh ma fekke aagya.... zeherila gas tha koi shayad🤢🤢🤢

@Sajalpsc

Жыл бұрын

😄😄😄

@tanmay5070

Жыл бұрын

must be some gas of sulphur shit smells real bad

@zproject123

Жыл бұрын

lee aayan baitaree ke saath ise karane ka prayaas karen, yah vyutkramaanupaatee hoga

Not true one of the other batteries was not fully charged

@zproject123

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the li ion battery has dropped, but in most cases the lipo battery explodes easily

@chief_beef6584

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not how it works. The fire is from the lithium reacting with the air, it doesn’t matter if it’s charged or not

@Alexandre1980-ln7ke

6 ай бұрын

​@@chief_beef6584 1 year later, does the lithium polymer and lithium iom matter?

both are lit-polymer

The lipo battery is on fire

Then i'll stop using this as a stylus

Tell me anyone how to know my phone have ion battey Or polemer battery, I serrch for this but this shot come

Nirvana be like

Kalo ga salah gw dulu pernah coba bongkar Li-po, pas kena terik matahari langsung kebakar..

They’re both the same, the other one might not be charged in order to fake the video, because I sure know lithium polarized batteries explode too.

My phone honor 70 5g 😅

So the result is copy one best 🎉😂

In the days since i found god yeah yeah yeah

hahahaha ye sab hota hai battery kholne pe

Batterai lipo memang sungguh berbahaya, tidak stabil.

@zproject123

2 жыл бұрын

Bener kx, batrai paling tidak stabil ya baterai lipo, jadi batrai itu gampang meledak

@nufa35

Жыл бұрын

Jadi bingung dah gua Ada yang bilang durability kuat lipo dan yang disini bilang kuat li ion Yang bener yang mana ya

@zproject123

Жыл бұрын

Di coba saja kax, untuk pembuktian nya. karena secara logika saja sudah jelas, baterai yang lebih banyak mengeluarkan energi, pasti tidak akan stabil. jika di bandingkan baterai yang sedikit mengeluarkan energi. itu sebabnya kenapa di dunia pesawat aeromodeling dan drone, tidak ada baterainya yang memakai baterai li ion, ya karena energi yang bisa di keluarkan hanya sedikit , walaupun daya tampung besar. sedangkan li po bisa mengeluarkan energi konstan. itu sebabnya gampang panas dan meledak.

@samueladitya1729

10 ай бұрын

@@nufa35 mau aman dan awet pake lifepo4

Which battery type is more safe??

@TheSphongleface

7 ай бұрын

A Li-Ion battery is without a doubt much safer than a LiPo cell... It's like comparing a goldfish in a bowl to a goldfish in a plastic bag.

@alexisjuillard4816

3 ай бұрын

No they are actually more unstable. You were mislead by this video for a ton of reasons, some intentionally misleading to that conclusion. Empirical hard science says li ion chem is more prone to reactions then polymer. Doesn't mean li ion is safer tho i work on batteries a lot and i constantly worry when working on li po cause its like worrying about not breaking a wine glass or a metal thermos. One is extremely delicate in its build layers of paper thin charged stuff the other literally has armor around it you can throw it from a window it (probably) will not burst. But when they do... they are supposed to vent like that polymer did, let the gases escape and fire if present. But imagine it can't vent... you LITERALLY have a bomb, i m not just talking boom boom hurt hurt what would fucking worry me in that explosion is that solid metal shell. Thats like the entire concept of the grenade. Metal sealed container, increase pressure inside by burning stuff and making gaz, then container bursts into 100 little shards of (toxicity bonus for lithium) very angry metal

@The_Glory.

Ай бұрын

@@alexisjuillard4816hey Alex I have a question that i am really trying to figure out and would appreciate it if u could help me with it So i got this power bank with 20000mA that got swollen (two separate parts of 10000 attached) and I highly suppose it’s a Li ion battery considering their heavy armor foil outside and the bank is modern (manufactured around 3 years ago) I kept it in a safe area for some time before deciding to experiment with it (for once and only, out of scientific curiosity) after reading/watching a lot about what to expect and their composition. i checked their charge after that and it was still almost fully charged so i took it to a different location (exposed to air specifically within temperatures of 10-25 C including some rainy days too that may have touched the inner wires gently but they didn’t really soak in water) then i checked them after about two weeks and they were almost depleted. Then i went and applied the safety measures (glasses, fire resistant gloves, mask etc) and pierced it yet nothing happened, hence pierced bunch of more really deep holes in both batteries but saw literally nothing (i saw a crack in one of them only not both prior to the test and i could smell the gas so I expected one of them won’t react harshly but the other still was swollen) so i kept going and cracked them both open but no reaction with air was noticed, also i didn’t pour water directly on them but i had wet ish tools and sprinkled some drops on them (in fact i took some of the layers out and soak them in water but nothing happened). My question is simply what exactly happened? In other words were the batteries not Li ion at the first place or did that cold weather really got them died that they couldn’t even react with water? Or should they be really sinked in water to have a glimpse of any reaction? Thanks for reading all this if u have reached this point.

@The_Glory.

Ай бұрын

@@alexisjuillard4816 hey Alex I have a question that i am really trying to figure out and would appreciate it if u could help me with it So i got this power bank with 20000mA that got swollen (two separate parts of 10000 attached) and I highly suppose it’s a Li ion battery considering their heavy armor foil outside and the bank is modern (manufactured around 3 years ago) I kept it in a safe area for some time before deciding to experiment with it (for once and only, out of scientific curiosity) after reading/watching a lot about what to expect and their composition. i checked their charge after that and it was still almost fully charged so i took it to a different location (exposed to air specifically within temperatures of 10-25 C including some rainy days too that may have touched the inner wires gently but they didn’t really soak in water) then i checked them after about two weeks and they were almost depleted. Then i went and applied the safety measures (glasses, fire resistant gloves, mask etc) and pierced it yet nothing happened, hence pierced bunch of more really deep holes in both batteries but saw literally nothing (i saw a crack in one of them only not both prior to the test and i could smell the gas so I expected one of them won’t react harshly but the other still was swollen) so i kept going and cracked them both open but no reaction with air was noticed, also i didn’t pour water directly on them but i had wet ish tools and sprinkled some drops on them (in fact i took some of the layers out and soak them in water but nothing happened). My question is simply what exactly happened? In other words were the batteries not Li ion at the first place or did that cold weather really got them died that they couldn’t even react with water? Or should they be really sinked in water to have a glimpse of any reaction? Thanks for reading all this if u have reached this point.

I have li ipn battery for my iphone battery

Take your Li ion to water show what happen it's like boom

Lion battery won a li po lose because he got fired

Wow video is missleading information lithium polymer and lithium ion Not upside 🤔

Samsung battery like that

Гәдәр узун ағ ҝөзәл палтар ҝејинирдим вә сачларымы 😮😮😮😮

Li ion dgn lifepo4 beda gak sih? Atau sama

@zproject123

Жыл бұрын

Beda kak, jenis baterai ada banyak, tetapi yang sering di pakai baterai li ion sama li po

Saya baca2 artikel katanya li-po lebih kecil kemungkinan kebakar ato meledak, tp kok di video tes ini malah kebalik ya. Jadi mendingan pb li-ion cell apa li-po ya?

@zproject123

2 жыл бұрын

Mungkin artikelnya asal kak, kenyataanya baterai lipo lebih berbahaya ketusuk jarum dikit langsung kebakar dan meledak, makanya kasus hp meledak sekarang sangat marak sekali, di karenakan hp terbaru rata2 memakai baterai lipo, coba hp jaman dahulu, jarang ada kasus meledak. kalau pilihan tergantung kegunaan kakak buat apa, kalau kegunaannya membutuhkan power yang besar lebih baik pilih lipo, tetapi kalau tidak di gunakan untuk power yang besar lebih baik baterai li ion tidak terlalu bahaya.

@SS-ug5qh

Жыл бұрын

@@zproject123 teory cara test beda pak cara gencetnta beda batray lion pakek almunium lebih keras sedangkan lipo pakek pelindung tipis liat tu yang kebakar satpengunan itu si lion bukan lipo kasusnya bedain durability test ama test bacok 😂😂

@SS-ug5qh

Жыл бұрын

Bedain test bacok ama test durability pengunaan kalo gak percaya bedah aja kedua batary tebalan lion pelindungnya soalnya dia cair beda ma lipo almunium tipis kalo mau hp mu meledak ya bacok aja kan goblok mikir mikir yang bener riset pahami jangan kemakan gak jelas test penggunaan bukan test bacok kan lucu

@zproject123

Жыл бұрын

memang bukan tes durability kak, tapi pada kenyataannya di kehidupan nyata lebih cenderung baterai jatuh atau tertusuk. tapi di logika saja biasanya apapun yang mampu mengeluarkan energi lebih banyak, pasti tidak akan stabil.

Lithium-ion battery never explodes😂 👇

⚠️⚠️WARNING: EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, PLEASE DON’T TRY THIS AT HOME!!⚠️⚠️

Don't try this at home

Point of view: your right ear is dead

@zproject123

Жыл бұрын

no, battery is both 80% charged and 50% health

@BrontoByteStudio

Жыл бұрын

@@zproject123 Oh, okay! And also I was wrong: *left ear

Fake 2 are liion

Apa gak kebalik ya ?....tadi baru nonton KZread katanya li-ion yang mudah kebakar....

@zproject123

Жыл бұрын

Ngak kx, kalau ngak percaya di coba aja sendiri, lagian di logika sendiri saja, baterai full power cenderung gampang meledak dan tidak stabil. itu sebab nya baterai jenis li po cenderung mahal, karena bisa menyerap energi dan mengeluarkan energi yang sangat besar.

Fraud it's lion onlyy yhuu

Lessen here. People and batteries don't like to be hit.

Kebalik dongo li-ion ygmudah rusak dan bahaya li-po yg awet dan ga berbahaya

@zproject123

Жыл бұрын

wkwkwk, yang dongo elu bro, udah jelas2 ada buktinya masih ngelak aja.

@iwanmsport8665

Жыл бұрын

​@@zproject123minta link pembuktian lain nya dong bang

Sy sebenarya lebih sk lion tapi gadget sekarang hampir semuanya pake lipo😢