Stephen is so used to arguing that's all he can do anymore

@tyreetw

5 ай бұрын

and it paid off, so shutup already

@PJ20091000

5 ай бұрын

Well he is from New York😂😂😂

@joshbutler8147

4 ай бұрын

He can’t even speak in a normal tone.

@tyreetw

4 ай бұрын

@@joshbutler8147 he don't have to talk like you or your peers, y'all weird

Thank you Dan. Thank you Dan.Thank you Dan. I love Le Batard because he is always honest - and his show is pretty funny too.

@JP-jd8wr

6 ай бұрын

He's not honest because he was part of the problem UNTIL he left ESPN 😂

@RJCE420

5 ай бұрын

Dan is and has always been mad that he can't do it like Skip or SAS.

@Hundo-et5ef

5 ай бұрын

Wtf he does the same thing what gives him the right to call out Stephen a smith ?

"Who the hell are you..." Dan has been the guy to elevate ESPN talent across the board, not keep them down. Mina, Bomani, Dominque, Sarah, Pablo and not even counting the new blood in the shipping container. Meanwhile, SAS can't even acknowledge Max.

@jarvisstephenson7039

5 ай бұрын

Max stunk. SAS helped elevate Shannon sharpe, Marcus spears, Ryan Clark, Dan orlosky, Jeff Saturday, and JJ redick. Guess you forgot to mention that🤷🏾‍♂️

@shindean

5 ай бұрын

@@jarvisstephenson7039 Shannon is more popular, but Max actually gave the show culture and was praised for it

@shindean

5 ай бұрын

@@jarvisstephenson7039 Shannon is more popular, but Max actually gave the show culture and was praised for it

@jarvisstephenson7039

5 ай бұрын

@@shindean and it was boring and the show is much better off now with Shannon. You up here commenting on SAS but where is max since he was so good?

@shindean

5 ай бұрын

@@jarvisstephenson7039 go ahead and find a single person that matters, Dan, Pat, Shannon, etc. Who said the show was boring. I'll fucking wait....🤡

SAS doesn't even understand that he has become a parody of himself at this point. He's unwatchable. The fact that SAS thinks that he and Dan are more alike than not is laughable.

@qmillz8076

6 ай бұрын

I Agree

@firedawg2240

6 ай бұрын

He’s a joke

@kurtreed7022

6 ай бұрын

He's not unwatchable if he is the host of the most watched sports show in America.

@danr154

6 ай бұрын

i also think stephen a is just gaslighting/politicking Dan a little bit here

@shindean

6 ай бұрын

The insecurity is real, he goes on national TV to threaten athletes but talks about his credibility like it's somehow relevant when you're talking that kind of trash.

The fact he is yelling the whole time even in this proves the point.

The complete absence of contrition is what's annoying about Stephen A. If you're not going to apologize, then own it. Don't say "it was other people who monetized it," or there were other shows first (PTI was nothing like First Take, Stephen; Dan has it right on this, how you amped up the argument). Just own what you did. Own your part of it, at the very least. It would be so much easier to accept if Stephen would just admit that, yeah, he and Skip changed sports talk forever, in a negative way, but hey, he's making bank so he doesn't care. At least be honest about it instead of all the deflection.

SAS is THE reason I cut cable. I only paid for it to watch ESPN because of netflix at the time. I got tired of SAS and got tired of paying my cable bill. Now you can watch every sport on another streaming platform and for free on KZread get way better and cleaner analysis

Does Stephen A. realize his competition at 10am is the 2nd airing of "Good Morning Football, Skip's knockoff show, and "Supernatural" re-runs, etc..😂? Stop bragging about beating all them old movies and kids cartoons dawg. 😂😂

@Marcus_shawn

5 ай бұрын

​@@zamtil exactly and most of us watch clips on our phones at work

@slickjustgotpaid9865

5 ай бұрын

@@zamtilppl watch on phones and stream it. I work everyday and I watch first take every morning. Half the time we’re not watching it, we listening to it like how we do the radio

@TRUTHaintHATING

5 ай бұрын

​@@zamtilunemployed black men

Great show Dan Le Batard. Thank you for speaking truth to his face.

You were speaking for all of us here Dan, and bless you for it.

I remember a young Stephen A. Smith when he was working in Philadelphia back in the year 2001. I like his professionalism, his intelligence.. but that was a long, long, time ago. I had to tune this dude out a few years ago. Pompous..

@veryblood57

6 ай бұрын

Same here

We watch for entertainment. SAS and Skip understood that very well.

Literally stopped watching First Take and SAS when I found this channel. First Things First is more tolerable. Information and News has to be about more than Money or we are all worse off.

Stephen A. tried to school Dan and eventually just started making points that supported Le Batard lol

I didn't even know Le Betard was still doing a show. Cool to see.

@user-ln6sn6yu3m

5 ай бұрын

Lmaoooo😂

@adamn6719

5 ай бұрын

i love them but theyve been hemorrhaging money for a long time

Thank you Dan for this interview this is confirmation. No one wants to be responsible for what they created.As long as they get there's.

@vincebliddack2037

5 ай бұрын

stpehen a def aint create it. n what would his responsibility even be. lebetard is more jealous than upset

@ronaldmccain1181

5 ай бұрын

Stephen is not responsible for how the sports landscape is. Sports debate been around long before Skip brought it to tv. The argumentative style of debate on tv is not Stephen's fault either. They can't help if that style brings in ratings. If people got tired of it, they moved on and they did, which is why you see thousands of sports channels on Social media and KZread.

Dan’s people using this “title “ while making this argument is ridiculous

When has SAS used his journalism background in the last 10 years?

@tyreetw

5 ай бұрын

he dont have to, we live in a diff world now, anything u want to know its at your fingertips weirdo

@HHHPedigrees

5 ай бұрын

None. He doesn’t even get inside info from NBA players anymore

100% agree with Dan here

I'm sorry I missed this. What an incredible conversation to happen.

Max was forced to defend the counter argument to Stephen A’s chosen position and still regularly did a better job of defending it. But what’s even worse than the debate format is that sports media has become a reality confessional style show where the analysts talk more about each other than they do about the sports.

Smith will never be self reflective enough to realize that nobody likes him, for a good damn reason. also like how Dan was quiet, reserved, let Smith sit there and dig his own grave. well done. this is how you let loudmouths end themselves.

Why is Steve yelling and Dan is being calm. He is trying to have a discussion like adults with Steve and he's yelling

@teewhy6994

6 ай бұрын

I think that was the point Dan was trying to make.

@negative2positve380

6 ай бұрын

That's just his persona I guess...

When someone gestures to hypocrisy to dismiss an argument its because they know what they are saying/doing is wrong so they dont have to justify anything they do. Its a cowards move.

@shindean

6 ай бұрын

The fact that he didn't mention all the times he used his platform to threaten athletes is awfully convenient when defending his professionalism 🤔

Keeping it real. They're BOTH right

I'm not a Steven A fan however what he is saying is The market has spoken. And it was long before he came into the space

@treadsdoes

4 ай бұрын

Yepppp a lot of times these people are the symptom not the cause. Same in politics.

SAS doesn't understand that SNL is not laughing w/him when they parody him, they're laughing at him b/c he's not to be taken seriously anymore. He used to be a journalist. He used to be. Now, he's just the loudest of the loudmouths. Nobody will remember him a year after he's off tv, b/c they'll have another clown to shake their head and laugh at. Good job Dan.

@slickjustgotpaid9865

5 ай бұрын

Maybe you won’t but us in the black community will. He has helped elevated hbcu and much more

@WorldB403

5 ай бұрын

@@slickjustgotpaid9865 Yo, I'm a Black man who went to and graduated from an HBCU, and that loud-mouthed jackass don't rep me at all. You can have him. Oh yeah, learn what past and present tense is genius.

@averyb.476

5 ай бұрын

Would they have remembered him if he was a journalist? No way. Not your average person. Regular journalist get respect in their fields, SAS and others have crossed over into sports commentator

Why isnt Sad Lebatard looking at the camera like SAS??

I’ll go there… sports media has become reflective of politics in this country. Stats/data be damned. I can yell and be the most entertaining so I’m right I actually typed that before I watched the video: Stephen A just admitted kinda what I’ve thought about him. He’s about the dollars. At least he admits it. Smh

@multicoloredwiz

6 ай бұрын

Has become....? Haha.... not tryna sound smug. Just enjoying the innocence! The rise of Stephen A to riches is a sad story of late capitalism. 15 years ago I recall in his earlier days on ESPN that if you read his work on, was it called page2, youd largely love his work. He'd write thoughtful and insightful articles on a multitude of topics. Contrasted with his appearances on TV.. he'd behave bombastic and flamboyant as he does today. he got the name screaming a, spitting a, etc, and he got mocked and called lots of vitriolic and heinous things unnecessary to type even in the illustrious youtube comment sections. Later he was laid off in the last recession we were in. which was a shame. Then what seemed like out of nowhere to espn viewers he reached great personal success for him, which I'm thankful for him and his family but at the cost of his journalistic work in exchange for what Dan alludes to in this video. Yelling on TV to get clicks and attention. I wonder what it is the companies incentive today. It isn't even chasing profits. Chasing temporary shareholder value? Chasing views to prop up ad numbers to give to advertisers? Either way, they're propagandists looking to sell subpar products to people who don't need them. Pteww.

@christopherwilliams2351

6 ай бұрын

@@multicoloredwiz lol you’re correct. I was trying to sound more optimistic. But it’s funny that he brought up shows like Around the Horn and PTI, cause Cold Pizza was the original first take and it is so far removed from today’s show. Hell I miss Numbers Never Lie because it was real sports and stats which is what I care about. But it is what it is. I feel like my grandparents reminiscing about the old days. But given what SAS said here, it’s not at all shocking that someone like Max didn’t fit the show anymore

@Anthonycheesman33

6 ай бұрын

I feel like that was skips plan he wanted to make first take the cnn of sports .

@TopCheese81

6 ай бұрын

Yah he's gotta be entertaining

@SolidMikeP

6 ай бұрын

Bro…your what’s wrong with this whole thing “I typed that before I saw the video” I mean damn, don’t you see how that’s the biggest problem? Having a stance before hearing the argument? lol

First thing is props to SAS for actually engaging with Dan Lebetard. But what SAS is missing is that there were a lot of critics of Around the Horn, Mike and the Mad Dog and Jim Rome well before First Take. So it’s just dishonest for SAS to say there weren’t critics of sensationalist media types. And the criticism that SAS and First Take took the volume up on the sensational driven sports debate is very valid. Just because you make money off something and are successful does not make you immune from criticism of the negative aspects yourof success has brought to the larger landscape.

@averyb.476

5 ай бұрын

This is fair. But then Dan can't come at him saying it's SAS fault the landscape is the way it is

Truth is, I don’t consider Skip and Stephen A journalists in the true sense of the word. Have they done it in the past? Yes. Are they both clearly qualified to do it even now? Of course. But ARE they journalists now? Nope. At best are opinion pieces, spewing mindless stats and records which they think support whatever opinion they are spewing today. Often times even getting the stats wrong, every time not recognizing the nuance that often goes along with their spew. At their worst, they are no better than uninformed opinions I run across on KZread. They are both here to entertain, most often I laugh at least once, but I never take them seriously. In that context I have no problem with either of them giving the public what they clearly love, the average social media idiot loves them and that’s ok! No crime against making money! Just have to keep them both (and all their imitators) in the context for which they belong. Entertainers.

SAS hiding behind being a journalist feels small at this point. Don’t hate the player…..

Man... boy did S.A.S. turn into Shaggy... it wasn't me. He is pointing those fingers everywhere... but when he wants to talk positively about how sports talked changed, man does he want to take credit. I can't stand him or Bayless. Just carnival barkers.

2:35 admits to selling his soul for the money. Money is the root of all evil.

I hate the Sports media now. I hate the soap opera drama. It's hurting the leagues too!

I love Stephen A Smith, he is very entertaining and knowledgeable, he aint perfect but neither are we.

I just hate that everybody hate sports...i dont want to watch sport show that only point out all players flaws...i want to hear them tell me why this game in sports is must see tv...

Was Screamin’ A a journalist when he was parroting the NFL’s talking points to bury Colin Kaepernick?

I agree with Dan, and I’m not a Stephen A fan but he’s right too. He did admit what everyone already knew, it’s about the 💰!!! The difference was when there were different shows and journalists on the shows, Around the Horn is good example with original roster of 8-10 guests rotation hosted by Max Kellerman who had best tool for those shows, the Mute button! Stephen A Smith being on every show for 10+ hours a day was the start of him being the star, as it’s evolved into like a daytime talk show. As star he was given control, shown by how he had Max fired, and I’m sure others too, when he felt they upstaged him, when they just spoke on topic with their own knowledge! The result is coverage of sports, what the network is supposed to be all about, suffers. Even biggest sports fans don’t need NFL & NBA coverage 365 days a year! Call it the Golden Era of ESPN in 90’s, and Sunday Mornings had Sports Reporters & Outside the Lines were the best shows! Bob Ley & Jeremy Schapp, and other on there did the best investigative journalism in sports media, reporting on great compelling stories. Sunday night was Baseball Tonight and/or NFL Primetime depending on time of year. Yes before all highlights were a click away on Phone/laptop. But the personalities of those presenters were what made you looked forward to.

@TRUTHaintHATING

5 ай бұрын

Good old days

ESPN is destined to shut down. People want to take walks and plant gardens rather than be screamed at by these guys. Football season isn’t back until September

Blame the networks, not the talent. ESPN wanted clones so that’s what they push

@shindean

6 ай бұрын

SAS was the one using his platform to threaten athletes, that's not what ESPN asked for. Dan never threatened athletes, so the difference between these two men on the same platform comes down to the clown who wants attention anyway he can 🤡

I quit watching any of that sports content during covid. I became more negative energy sensitive for some reason. When I watched every woman I was with hated hearing him on the TV and I didn't get it. Arguing over the 2 best basketball players is toxic. When you see hate for such an accomplished human, it's psychotic.

It's bizarre how clueless Stephen A is about this. And Mad Dog can DIAF for all I care. You know he's worthless when every KZread clip of him is titled about how mad he is. And for me, it's not even about what to watch on TV. I can pick and choose and I'm good. But I really can't take going to many sports games now because the fans act like Stephen A and Mad Dog. They make sports miserable for the rest of us, because we don't listen, they yell louder.

@Marcus_shawn

5 ай бұрын

Mad dog is trash

Glad to see both express their points. Glad to see Dan directly state his issues and beliefs. Not fake it or act like he’s talking on someone else’s opinion.

I think SAS is missing the point. He is talking about how SAS and Skip changed sports media in a such a way that it has become the new format thus making guys like him or that style or format irrelevant. It's not about the information, it's about the argument which is what SAS does. He makes everything an argument. Because that style was different at the time it was new, obviously, it became super popular and others followed to be similar and ride the wave. It changed the landscape on about the same scale as Twitter and KZread. It became the next phase of sports media. It's difficult to go back after a new standard has been set, for better or worse. Or, maybe i missed the point.

I like sports debates, but I like sports debates with a shred of nuance and facts to back them up. Something SAS is consistently lacking. Hell there’s an entire fucking video online of Skip Bayless doing the song and dance of First Take by himself AGAINST HIMSELF.

Damn Stephen A Smith hitting Dan with the hard facts

@HHHPedigrees

5 ай бұрын

Not really. He kinda made Dan’s point. Stephen A realized its not about sports facts it’s about the money and arguing just to argue

@ZNTXVODs

5 ай бұрын

​@@HHHPedigrees pretty silly for Dan to try to blame two people for how markets work though, they're both right, I suppose

Daaaaang! 😂😂😂😂😂

After he gave his flowers and put him out there his whole mood changed

I actually enjoy the competition and choice .

Stephen A spit facts

Stephen "Brotha" Smith wants to be Steve Harvey soooo Bad

SAS is so full of it.

Screaming news and sports journalism is unfortunately here till the public gets tired of it .

The problem is that sports media shows had former players and fans as guest spots. Not a whole show and hosts. Cause it's not sports talk anymore. It's more defending their friends and former teamattes and protect their fantasy players or players they place bets on.

We can’t blame SAS and Skip for what Disney made them do! You do know that Disney owns ESPN and Fox, that’s why shit the same on both networks! Why no one blames the corporations I don’t understand!

SAS is exactly what Jason Whitlock says he is and Jason Whitlock is exactly what SAS says he is.

Amazing how guys who never played at a pro level can tell a guy who has.... what they're looking at or has experienced playing pro ball.

The genre Skip and SAS fathered is "chercha" as we say in Spanish. The audience knows the difference between "chercha" and sports journalism. I mean, how many people believe Skip is being objective when he says "LeBron sucks" or some other silliness.

Stephen A. Is a carribean tether. Enough said.

I thought Dan was doing this again lol.

“It’s not the money” lmao. A player has a bad game and the next day the discussion is about his legacy. It damned sure isn’t about the love of the game. The way Skip and Stephen A. have made sports discourse has ruined even the actual sports to some extent. He’s the most watched because he knows how to make people watch to hear him trash players they don’t like. In the type of country we live in, and with the way sports, particularly basketball are trending in terms of player power, certain people want to see them taken down. Skip Bayless built a whole platform on saying one great player isn’t great. He was able to do that because people hate that player. People aren’t watching because they’re interested in the sport or to learn more. It’s third-party hate watching. I appreciate LeBatard trying, but you can’t get through to people who only care about the money. It’s not possible. Different languages.

Fox news reported that Iran backed hoootie rebels been firing rockets at the shipping container...im worried...hopefully Dan and everybody is ok...love these guys..!!! 😊😊😊

Sports media isn’t about sports no more. It’s more about politics and celebrities particularly athletes personal shit.

Screamin A Smith Professional Wrong Person

Did Dan ever get a sentence in. He should work for CNN, let people give their valedictorian speech and just stand down

Hasn't dan done that in the past too.

Man I respect SAS for going on this show and dealing with these issues.

Stephen A has fallen off ever since he got rid of Max. people finally saw what a despicable man he is

I guess the Dan guy has never heard of Jim Rome...

You keep doing the same segment I thought you talked about this already unless I'm missing something

Dan just need to say what's really on his mind.

What’s wrong with watching people debate about sports ?

Dan hating IDGAF

Max smiled too much and didn’t get dragged into the mud.

Money. The answer is always money.

Both Stephen A. and Dan are right. Non-issue honestly.

Kinda feel Dan on this, but it’s hate because other guys are getting attention over them , but it’s not their fault ppl are watching them over you

Dan really think he high and mighty??? 😂😂😂😂 It’s like when a music artist is signed to a major then they’re let go and become independent NOW they wanna be against the Industry! Lmaooooooo

@TheMetalMixtape

5 ай бұрын

Great comment.

SAS missed this point completely

I got dizzy and feel down watching him spin this and make him laugh at the end. This should used in colleges as training material in many professions.

How tf does Dan think he wasn't apart of the problem? 😂😂😂

@terrydizzydude4087

5 ай бұрын

A complete lack of self awareness.

@violabeaumont3758

5 ай бұрын

What has Dan done to be part of the problem?

@averyb.476

5 ай бұрын

​@violabeaumont3758 the same thing Stephen A has done. Had successful TV shows & radio shows kicking it with your friends giving the illusion that anyone can do it and it's easy. Look at how many sports shows, podcasts and channels there are now. This wouldn't come without the success of First Take, Highly Questionable, etc coming before them

@violabeaumont3758

5 ай бұрын

@@averyb.476 You left out the notable difference that Dan does not give out irresponsible 'hot takes' like guys like Stephen A and Skip are responsible for.

Hit dawg hollas..in SAS case, yell

This argument is more about Max than SAS being a sell out

I need people to stop making Max out to be a victim dude was a hot take merchant his damn self dating back to his days on Sports Nation, he got to First Take and was talking about Brady falling off a cliff and being a bum with no evidence whatsoever to support it like let's be honest here.

Is this a "year in review" or something?

One guy got a few thousand watching his show. The other got a few hundred thousand...🤔

I respect sas for engaging... Really no reason too... Different levels. Sas come from bottom and is at the very top... Hes probably capped his peak, but unlike bayless, i think sas is smart enough to rise shannon sharpe wave. Some of this is sour grapes. It was cool when your old man was rapping on shows and yall were giving twisted funny takes

Fans like the entertainment better than the truth. So give them entertainment and to hell with the truth.

SAS and skip definitely top 5 worst media heads in history

how many shows yall gonna make about SAS lol.

Did Stephen A Smith break any laws? I just hear complaining and jealousy. If someone is too influential in an industry, then change it, dude . Quit whining

It was entertaining when it was new but now its just annoying. Especially when you realize these experts really don't know what they're talking about, so they are just arguing for the sake of arguing. They are TV personalities who dont know any more than an average sports fan.

It’s all basically sensationalism striving for clicks by creating controversy and opposing sides in varying degrees. I like shows like NFL live that have hosts of former players that give their humble opinion and backs it up with video breakdowns. Most of the “sensationalists” are not former players and although knowledgeable, cannot provide accuracy from the perspective that a former athlete can. They just are voicing their opinions loudly, and boisterously and in some cases, intentionally devisive to create the drama that garner more ratings which is basically their end game.

PTI and Mike and the Mad Dog are a lot different from First Take. Give me a break.

So why are you trippin

Steven A and Skip are awful. Signed sports fans. We are the ones who endure this

Shock jock sports shows like SAS started with Skip are what gets ratings and it's sad. Dan's point is spot on and SAS knows it. I would much rather watch Max or someone like Mina who utilizes data and is fair instead of all of these people that know who and what teams get them ratings. It's honestly pathetic. Don't hide behind journalism either. Skip is probably the least respected journalist out there. Built a terrible reputation in Dallas and continues on that path.

There are some of out there who just like the sports facts to me watching debates about sports is wasted time. Especially those lame goat debates 🙈

He's not hearing Dan