Dan Ashworth Situation EXPLAINED: Manchester United and Newcastle Heading To Court
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Here is everything you need to know about Dan Ashworth's move to Manchester United and the upcoming court of arbitration case against Newcastle. It's complicated but this should explain it all for you.
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Here is everything you need to know about Dan Ashworth's move to Manchester United and the upcoming court of arbitration case against Newcastle. It's complicated but this should explain it all for you.
@obongo96
Ай бұрын
This is just the beginning. Bruno from Newcastle to Man United will be even more dramatic
@robertblake1228
Ай бұрын
Dan is a weasel
@seacrestboxers1787
Ай бұрын
@@obongo96😅😅clown
@billysastard117
Ай бұрын
@@obongo96won't happen, he'd cost far too much and he's not the type we need to prioritise
@ikhuegbevictor2762
Ай бұрын
Let see how it goes
If Newcastle have been paying Ashworth since they put him on gardening leave then he hasn't been sacked.
@seacrestboxers1787
Ай бұрын
No of course he wasn't. It's a complete pack of lies. No way will arbitration do him any good, he signed a contract less 2 years prior. This is going to result in a Newcastle win and Cashworth may even get a ban , so good luck with him when you eventually pay the money of course, cos if you don't he will end up at Chelsea......flower show !
@voight-kampff3611
Ай бұрын
Correct. Besides, supply and demand is the market law. If MU wants to hire a guy under contact they must walk the talk and come up with the cash.
@enthusiastsajan713
Ай бұрын
@@seacrestboxers1787 there is agreement in place tho. Why would he go to Chelsea. They don't want him and vice versa
@mzakaria10
Ай бұрын
@@enthusiastsajan713Lmao, think it's an upset Newcastle fan that's come to visit us to have a tantrum in our comment section. Chelsea sporting directors are on an agreed rotational basis established at the takeover. It was Boehly last year, Stewart/Winstanley now and eventually someone else internally from Chelsea when their rotation is done. Geezer doesn't even know what he's talking about, now watch Newcastle get £5M-£8M instead of the £20M they been crying about.
@Quickrelief76
Ай бұрын
Did Ashworth hand in a resignation letter?
Technically when he was tapped up, Berrada was a City employee, not a United employee
@eth_mufc7963
Ай бұрын
116 charges now then lol
@ic9651
Ай бұрын
From an Ineos email address though 🤡
@ajnz2420
Ай бұрын
@@eth_mufc7963 Shows all clubs cheat.
@pistol-pete77
Ай бұрын
@@eth_mufc7963😂😂😂
@Amiri2x
Ай бұрын
Took the words out my mouth
Sam, I really appreciate these short 8-15 min videos. Sometimes, we just don't have time for going through 50-60min videos.
Ashworth going on gardening leave doesn't equal sacked though? If you're on gardening leave, whether it's forced or mutual, means you're still under contract and you can't take on any additional work
@voight-kampff3611
Ай бұрын
Especially when salary is paid during gardening leave.
@dangerd85
Ай бұрын
@@voight-kampff3611 Yep. You can only be on gardening leave if you're still under contract and on the payroll
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@dangerd85Nope you can forced into gardening leave against your wishes and make a claim for unfair dismissal
@dangerd85
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Unfair dismissal means you've had your employment terminated though. If he's on gardening leave, then he's still under contract
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@dangerd85 And if you are randomly forced onto gardening leave because a job agency asks you if you are interested in another job, you can claim for unfair and constructive dismissal, which is clearly the road Ashworth is going down
The real crux of the matter will be the stupid emails between Ashworth and Berrada. Newcastle kept that out of the news until Ashworth announced what his case for arbitration would be. Can only see a Newcastle win here.
It's going to be a roller coaster with Dan Ashworth finally be our sporting director.
@TNT_12
Ай бұрын
As long as he's in place at Old Trafford in time for the January window, I don't really care. It's obvious Newcastle will try to drag this as long as possible so that he's not able to really influence this summer window. It is what it is. I think we can handle this summer without him
@kishennandha9127
Ай бұрын
You going transfer ban and pay fine
@kishennandha9127
Ай бұрын
Dan ashworth he snake let rot you lot want you got the money pay
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@TNT_12 Ashwirth and Berrada are already clearly working at the club. Do you think Newcastle have an armed guard making sure he physically stays in his garden and doesn't speak to anyone? Lol
@TNT_12
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot yeah, I'm not an idiot. I'm more-so talking about until he starts work in an official capacity, his influence is gonna be somewhat limited
Honestly Omar Berrada coming from a club that broke the rules 115 times is already breaking the rules for Utd and he hasnt even officially started yet! Our club gets from bad to worse. One day we'll get it right am sure? Jim'll fix it 🤔
@BrownDeluxe
Ай бұрын
Yeah and he knows how to get away with it too, just like the rest of the shity people in blue
@ajnz2420
Ай бұрын
We have cheated for years, read all the ex-player books about the tapping up during Fergies time. All clubs do it.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
"The Rules". Lol. It's a business not a school
Ashworth cant say he was sacked by newcastle they are still paying his wages which he is till accepting whilst on gardening leave
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Yes he can.
@NickPhillips-yf2re
Ай бұрын
No he can’t
@yogihightower
Ай бұрын
He absolutely can't.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@yogihightower He absolutely can and has just said exactly that. Weird that you are fantasising otherwise. Lol
@kingshearer2
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot ohhh no he can't
Dan Ashworth must be a master at growing tomatoes by now 🍅
@enthusiastsajan713
Ай бұрын
Lol
@tonyqwabe5873
Ай бұрын
Nice one 😂
He hasn't been sacked, he's on gardening leave unless Manure fork out for his release clause. Basically he talked to Manure and didn't report it to Newcastle.
@abelmakori
Ай бұрын
Silly
@Stan.k.Phlaps6447
Ай бұрын
Manure??
@mzakaria10
Ай бұрын
@@Stan.k.Phlaps6447We got some upset Newcastle fans in the chat, I enjoy it 😂
@Stan.k.Phlaps6447
Ай бұрын
@@mzakaria10 ...so call them Poocastle or something. Doesn't make any sense to insult your own club.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
It does not matter who he talked to he is free to seek new employment.
The crux of the matter is Ashworth treats contracts as worthless bits of paper. No principals just a mercenary available to the highest bidder.
The notion go 'tapping up' needs to be permanently thrown away. He's not a player, he's employed in a corporate role and in any normal job, it's up to the individual to have a conversation with an alternative employer in his own time if he wants to.
@DunlopJ
Ай бұрын
It doesn't work like that. In the corporate world, top ranking employees cannot move to another company on the whim., especially given they're privy to important information that can damage their competitive interests.
@darrenjohn8524
Ай бұрын
Boo Hoo, my team got caught cheating so the rules must be changed 🤣.
@Stan.k.Phlaps6447
Ай бұрын
Not if his contract specifically states otherwise.
@mzakaria10
Ай бұрын
Lmfao, I'm a United fan but whether in football or everyday regular life employers have to protect their interests and retain talent, they can't be having communication with competitors on back channels.
@Quickrelief76
Ай бұрын
Still even if Dan Ashworth breached some rules by disclosing info on the Brighton Newcastle deal, he won’t be fined 20m. Newcastle are bitter and greedy at the same time.
Brilliant explanation Sam. You are the best at this type of journalism.
Thanks for explaining
Well done Sam. Informative and interesting.
Newcastle are perfectly entitled to hold out for a fee, Ashworth goes from club to club, following the money, he might well do the same to MUFC if someone comes in for him
@samwize28
Ай бұрын
this is not a reason for Utd not to chase Ashworth though - as the same argument can be made about literally anybody.
@benedictjajo
Ай бұрын
Eh, you're new to business I see.
@richyclubsport5155
Ай бұрын
@@benedictjajo I sold a very successful business so know exactly how business works unlike you
@TheFarzad85
Ай бұрын
I really think that Newcastle is richer than United because of the oilmoney. He is not following the money, that would be strange. I think he wants to come to United because of the name.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
@@richyclubsport5155 Since you are in business with experience you are aware that this all comes under employment law.
Sam you do the best videos and knowledge best United YT channel
Thank you sam
Awesome video Sam once again
Sam saying messy messy at the end reminded me of the Ankara Messi meme😂
Is Dan Ashworth even worth this all this drama? Surely there are other sporting directors who are just as talented if not more. I feel like this whole British obsession Ratcliffe has is gonna bite us at some point.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
There is absolutely NO drama. He already works at Utd and a price will be agreed with Newcastle in a short hearing, or out of court settlement. Calm down
From a United standpoint, can we trust someone who so easily makes such a cockup? Haven't we had enough of people making cockups at our club?
@YK-rs8pm
Ай бұрын
Easily is crazy
@JaphetSimenda
Ай бұрын
Its man utd, we are a dream of most sports people to work for. I can trust him bcuz after united there is no other club, moreover he is english
@LitoYTB
Ай бұрын
@@JaphetSimendafacts
@LitoYTB
Ай бұрын
However I thought the same but this is Man UTD. U simply fantastic reject this opportunity
@ashlaw4392
Ай бұрын
We don't want him as the CEO of non CC yourself into an email.
Thank you for explaining that Sam will be intretsting to know how quickly this could be completed
Thanks
@UnitedPeoplesTV
Ай бұрын
Thank you Steve
5:51 he did inform Newcastle, he informed Darren eels at a formal meeting arranged for this purpose, but Ashworth is saying ‘yes, but I didn’t write it down on paper (child excise) but it doesn’t need to be as it was recorded at the formal meeting… 5:51
Omar Berrada does not officially represent Manchester United until the summer, so there is no Tapping up claim to be investigated from a Manchester United perspective. This would be seen as 2 companions talking about a potential future business role as Barrada isn't yet employed by the club.
@rossblack2324
Ай бұрын
Sending emails to ineos and also your own Newcastle email talking about a potential move not Ur personal email.
@simonfarrimond3664
Ай бұрын
Berrada whilst on gardening leave himself is not allowed to do any type of football business or correspondence himself so in theory the conversation or email between the 2 have broken the riules on both sides which in turn means 2 man utd incoming employees... usually when a club taps up a player they get a 2 window emabrgo on transfers maybe man utd might get the same this summer
@henrybrown9562
Ай бұрын
@@simonfarrimond3664lol there won’t be any football related punishment for a business decision. Very different than a player.
@Stan.k.Phlaps6447
Ай бұрын
That's not how the law works though.
@eugenebelford9087
Ай бұрын
Oh, you're right. Legally MUFC might be fine. But both Berrada and Ashworth are maybe in breach of their respective contracts and thus breaching at least civil law. And maybe, possibly - and absolutely against the common sense of MUFC supporters - a court might decide that, actually, MUFC is not above the law. And sentence both to pay fines and place a - say - five year ban on them to seek/ accept employment in English football. Pogba them. And yes, I seriously doubt that Newcastle or City will press such charges. But it should be done. Just like Stramer should have replied to Ratcliffe (about tax payer money for a new Old Trafford): "Where again do you produce those INEOS cars? In France? Up yours!"
How do you acquire personnel without "tapping up" ...how else would you do it?
So detailed
Thanks for the good explainer. Keep up the great work. For everyone's sake, this needs to be resolved ASAP. Newcastle won't want this dragging on into June either, as it'll impact their summer as much as United's as far as transfer dealings are concerned. They'll need to go sign his replacement, and can't do that whilst he's still an employee. Am just hoping Blanc and Berrada can make a start on the outgoings.
@asvpxjase
Ай бұрын
It’s just come out? 😂 it’s not even been 8 mins
@n9ne_nufc
Ай бұрын
I dont think you realise this does not impact us at all, we are about to sign Tosin and Kelly on free transfers and a new DOF can easily be signed even under a slightly different job title. This dragging on only actually impacts ManU as you want Ashworth to start working for you now and financially we hold the cards as he is under contract with a pre agreed clause Dan Ashworth has been caught out and hes getting desperate, we clearly didnt sack him otherwise we wouldnt be paying him, as an employer you can place someone on gardening leave if you feel it necessary, his arguments have hold no ground Ratcliffe needs to just pay up, we have more money than you and will destroy you if this case is escalated 👍🏾
@darrenjohn8524
Ай бұрын
@@n9ne_nufc My man here doesn't understand the term Gardening Leave🤣. Newcastle can easily appoint a new Director of Football even if Ashworth remains at Newcastle.
@n9ne_nufc
Ай бұрын
@@darrenjohn8524 exactly bro, everyday I realise that the internet is full of people that talk a lot more than they listen/learn. Ive always assumed people understand what these terms are as theyre not just applicable in football but all fields I was placed on gardening leave when I left one financial bank to join another, my replacement was hired and started while I was still on gardening leave I think people must be getting this confused with redundancy where you cant make someone redundant and just hire someone else in the same job role 🤦🏾♂️
@SuperHarl007
Ай бұрын
@@n9ne_nufc lol technically this isn't even a United problem all it proves is that two people who as of yet are loosely linked to the club tapped each other up about a potential job at United which officially is yet to be started and technically their contracts have not even started. So Newcastle would just be messing with an employee of theirs for an email he sent to an employee of Manchester City about a job at United which could easily wash their hands off it and go elsewhere or let Newcastle argue Semantics but it still remains said employee has another job lined up after being placed on Gardening leave prematurely. At the end of the day I feel Newcastle would have to compromise or settlement for less the courts I do not think can force United to do anything. And whether or not Newcastle as a football club is richer than United is not even a debate. You have richer owners but you're not richer than United. And if it comes down to an endless litigation both parties are rich enough to just keep it going forever.
This is going to be another long summer this time chasing a sporting director. Great video Sam
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Ashworth is already working for the club. Nothing to see here
An organisation can likely access all your emails in any case, even without the 'error'. Any sensible person would use a personal email for external job offers. So I'm doubting some of the info in these articles...
Excellent work as always, buddy.
What a wally, tapping up goes on constantly, Newcastle probably done it to Brighton. We need this guy in yesterday so I'd be considering other options due to his stupidity
@garymcrae1699
Ай бұрын
This WALLY got caught action's have consequences
@TNT_12
Ай бұрын
Don't get your knickers in a twist, mate. We can handle this summer without Ashworth if it comes down to it. It's not the end of the world
@zedro1000
Ай бұрын
Yes, he sent an email to the wrong address so /united should rethink it's whole strategy. That's as dumb as putting someone on the transfer list for conceding a penalty.
@Stan.k.Phlaps6447
Ай бұрын
Berrada doesn't fill me with confidence either.
@AnthonyStafford-qx5hx
Ай бұрын
Stump the perishing lolly...
Best thing for Utd to do now if Ashworth obviously hasn't signed a contract with Utd is go and get Dougie Freeman now and pay his release clause. That will teach the Newcastle board plus it will also teach Ashworth that there is no place in business for negligence.
@donaldpickett9494
Ай бұрын
Theyll wait and get him free while he works on the quiet behind closed doors
@enthusiastsajan713
Ай бұрын
That damages the accountability tho. We want people to know if we want something,we get it one way or another. But we get it. It would be same as before if we sign to make statements rather than smartness
@paulduncan5404
Ай бұрын
our club have there heads screwed on from now so we are no longer a pushover , you will learn that from now on
@yogihightower
Ай бұрын
@@donaldpickett9494he will be sued as will the club. Potentially a banning order would be on the cards.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@yogihightower Sued and a banning order? Lol. Get a grip
United will be back the haters know it too😂
@kevinmolloy9134
Ай бұрын
Yep only in your head dude.. Dead club dead stadium .
@ArthurMathebula-cb2dp
Ай бұрын
@kevinmolloy9134 Okay Kevin.
Enjoy your vids sam but why are they always SO quiet?!
@kingshearer2
Ай бұрын
cos he's not convinced with what he's saying
If I was Ashworth I would sign the following players ASAP : Alisson, Van Dijk, Konate, Trent, Tsimikas, Endo, Szobo, Jones, Salah, Diaz, Gakpo, Hendo, and Milner.
Good vid sam thanks, if utd have any sense they will settle and move on. To litigate this will cost millions and take anything up to a yr, for me, pay it, move on bigger fish to fry this summer we will lose in court and have to pay all expenses + compensation. This was my world many yrs ago, and things change but we we were caught with our fingers in the till. Pay and move on
Im curious why its such a big deal and honestly maybe it comes down to FFP rules - maybe for newcastle this opens an extra $20m to spend on transfers while happening to mess United around (were realistically a table rival for them now)
@mzakaria10
Ай бұрын
To provide context on how our the whazoo Newcastle's demand is, we paid a £20M fee to sack Jose. And that was Mourinho, Newcastle think £20M is logical fee for a director
Dealing with state owned club owners like Saudi, UAE, or Qatar must be a nightmare. They do not share the same principles or abide by the same laws with regards to employment. Basically, their way of thinking is that they do not employ you, they buy you and own you.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
I think it is completely local. I also think that they want the cash on their books and are probably not that interested in staff issues.
He was never sacked, you aren't sacked on gardening leave, you're on full pay, therfore it's impossible to be sacked. Not sure what point is being made in this video regarding this claim.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
So you are saying he was forced into an absence from an organisation?
You seem to be missing really important point here if Dan ashworth is interested in another opportunity for a different company yet if not placed on garden leave would be available to receive information on his current companies future plans that could be affected if he moves to a direct compare the only possible way of counteracting that is to place him on gardening leave regardless of whether he has an offer or is just interest that he wishes to explore
Oh wow
Why don't UTD just move and get someone else. This is like Frankie De Jong all over again.
@Curious0511
Ай бұрын
I think its different, FDJ did not want to come but Barca were willing to sell, here its opposite.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Ashworth is already working at Utd and the compensation just needs to be agreed, if any. Calm down
@david_fitzmaurice
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot calm down, calm down, they are being accused of tapping up and he's not allowed to work at UTD yet so why are you making stuff up?
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@david_fitzmaurice Not allowed by whom? Lol. I'm not making anything up. Berrada and Ashworth are already working full time at Utd. City couldn't care less about that and Newcastle are embarrassing themselves with a claim for £20 million that is going to be laughed out of court. Yes - calm down, calm down. A man left a company to work for abetter company. And there is a mild and irrelevant contract dispute that will be resolved very easily. What a bizarre non story to get so worked up about
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@david_fitzmaurice Of course he was tapped up. So what? How do you think companies recruit for executive roles? Which exact law do you think is being broken when a company asks a man to leave his current job and come work for them instead? Lol
I wonder if City will get involved too if Berrada acted for United while he was still deemed to be on gardening leave?
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
Not when it comes to employment. Do city real want to open up to corporate legal investigation? Do Newcastle want it for that matter. Man Utd have a secret weapon in all of this in that they are the most audited football club in the world.
Dan Ashworth has an email that clearly states he was fired from his position at Newcastle. It was sent from Dan Ashworths Manchester United email address.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
He is not indentured and is free to work as he pleases.
@Cif_Amotan_II
29 күн бұрын
@@Art-is-craft indeed. But he is also under contract. If he wants early release from his contract, a fee is due.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
@@Cif_Amotan_II There are no employment contracts that can force an employee to stay in a job.
@Cif_Amotan_II
29 күн бұрын
@@Art-is-craft not staying in his job. This is more of a non compete clause. Pretty common in higher corporate employment. The key point is, DA signed it.
You know what worries me ? That this will directly impact the transfer window - and ten hag will get judged half arsedly by ppl without any significant improvements in the summer. And we'll again be back to square one.
Suggestion for separate video for Fitness department . Please compare vast majority of our players entering the club and now . They all looks fat , it can't be coincident . For sure there is something wrong in our fitness department which can be major provoker for those injury records . Martinez , Mount , Casemiro , Amrabat , Lindelöf , Maguire... all of them looks heavier since coming to MU
Did Newcastle serve him a sack latter?
Its gone from player transfer sagas to executive appointment imbroglio. This club!
Really can't see how Ashworth can claim he's been sacked: he has a contract with Newcastle and if they want to relieve him of duties and pay him for doing nothing, that's their choice.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
No, that is constructive and unfair dismissal (or firing)and restriction of a man's right to work. Bizarre view of the world to think otherwise. Have you never had a job?
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
What do you think this is medieval feudalism with claims of bondage?
How could Dan Ashworth, an executive at the highest level make such mistake? What does that say about his dealings then?
@geoffharmer2076
Ай бұрын
not his 1st mistake, the italian gambler wasnt great either
Nothing will change
After City, Ten Hag was first up the podium. Having shook the hand of Price William and wee George. The next was Jim Radcliffe, who purposely turned to Alex Ferguson and totally 'Blanked' Ten. It was blatantly obvious and damn rude. He even hugged all the other players that followed. I have no idea what's happening, but a few of my United friends saw it and pointed out that it was edited out on Match of the Day. Today, he thanked all the players and the backroom staff whilst ignoring Ten Hag's achievements, just no mention. It seems strange; it really put me off, big Jim; but I sincerely hope that he's a better man than that!
any employer can ask an employee to stay home on full pay if they want to, especially if sensitive commercial information is accessible by Ashworth.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
They can ask but they cannot compel employment. Unless there is a contraction payment first services the employee is free to leave.
@garythomson1
29 күн бұрын
@@Art-is-craft if there is a fixed term contract or a contracted notice period then he is obliged to fulfil that.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
@@garythomson1 So they paid him in advance of said service?
Ridiculous comment the guys being paid while on gardening leave,he's been found out sending emails and man utd are embarrassed as hell ,and rightly so.
The club has know about the email for months, now they want it in the domain so have released details to Craig…. It’s not smoke and mirrors it’s legal negotiation
Sam you never give a shout-out to Botswana😢😢😢
Newcastle fan here. Thought your video was brilliant… like everyone I’m so confused but you’ve help clear it up “a little” I think it’s a total indictment that us as football fans are more bothered about executives than players these days. It’s so boring. Hope City batter you on Saturday and we get Europe. Up the Mags….
@bartyclocke296
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Got a feeling you aren't seeing Europe this year bro 😂 but complete facts about the back end of football being so dominant, it's annoying
Could have been tapped up by berada but as I understand berada doesn’t start work till the summer so at the time he wouldn’t have been employed by man utd
Wouldn't the email just prove of Berrada offering Ashworth a job? If one were to get a job offer, would it not be leverage to present that offer as concrete? He could still argue he was muling the offer, perhaps seeing if Newcastle would counter with an improved compensation package. He could then say that being put on leave made continuing at Newcastle untenable
@surpriserakins9067
Ай бұрын
Berrada doesn't work for Man Utd so can't offer anyone a job.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
It is not even that complicated. Organisations cannot compel employment. That was outlawed centuries ago.
Newcastle paid 72% of the remaining of Dan’s Brighton contract which was the lower figure, Brighton requested 135% of the contract. Manchester United are suggesting to pay just 14% of the remaining of the contract. Manchester United do not like doing business with Newcastle and just acting like a bully because historically they have been a bigger and more successful club. I don’t see Manchester United finishing above Newcastle for a long time the way they are being run. Hopefully Newcastle get around £5m to £10m which would be fair for both clubs.
The wrinkle to this might be that Omar start date isn't til July 13.
United (Newcastle) did some great business here
@tommynanjees4954
Ай бұрын
There's only one united and it's in Manchester not that small club living in the shadows of Sunderland
@kingshearer2
Ай бұрын
@@tommynanjees4954 🤣
@NicLuc
Ай бұрын
@@tommynanjees4954 there's only one Manchester now and it's blueeee
@tommynanjees4954
Ай бұрын
@@NicLuc the blue side of Manchester still small
@jonodunn2592
Ай бұрын
@@tommynanjees4954😂must be good watching your rivals dominate you Manchester is blue and this little club finished above you 😂
"Messi, Messi, Messi". Don't think he can even sort this one out.
Won't Berrada be in hot water also as he's still on gardening leave?
@HAHSIRAODEN
Ай бұрын
If mancity want to take him to court, they can't but normally they won't. But Newcastle can register a complaint to the premier league
He hasn’t been sacked. He’s been placed on gardening leave, still being paid by the club until the expiry of his contract. If Man United want him they’ll have to pay the release clause. Quite simple. Once the tapping up case is heard it won’t matter anyways.
I hope this doesn't end up like the Sancho pursuit and Dan Ashworth sweats excessively and can't beat a man.
If Berrada was still on gardening leave with City when the conversation took place, he was not employed by United so I am sure United will be able to get away with it. Agreeing to take a job without actually signing a contract means there is nothing illegal going on. The fact he was a City employee at the time, let's just add it to their 115 charges.
Ashworth will know all the transfer targets for Newcastle for this summer. There will be positions that both clubs need to recruit for and it’s bad for Newcastle if ManU knows Newcastles hit list. I am a Director in a company and if I move to a competitor I can have a lot of competitive knowledge. In my contract I am not allowed to be hired by a competitor within 12 months of leaving my current job. This is all very normal.
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
That does not give the right of indenture. Employees are free to work where they please. The contract only adds protections not absolutes. If Newcastle has not made full payment up front they will not have a strong position. Transfer targets will have no bearing on the outcome.
@OldGrandadMashup
29 күн бұрын
@@Art-is-craft if manure want him just pay the price. If they don’t they can go to arbitration but Ashworth has weakened his bid massively with the email trail fail. As I mentioned this is all very normal at director level and many of my colleagues who want to move to a competitor where they can take strategic knowledge with them have to do a 12 month grace period.
You clearly have no idea how commercial law works. Ashworth has stuffed up, he isn’t going anywhere until NUFC terminate his contract
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
You think Newcastle hold an indenture?
Honestly as a Newcastle fan, yes it was unreal to get him. But he’s not a good guy. Not a guy to have at your club.
Not a great start to life under Ineos. Hopefully Ashworth has some dirt on Newcastle and we can use it to get him out of there. But it worries me how murky it all is. I'm really not sure about this Berrada character, why the hell did we take him from a club whose facing 115 chatges of financial breaches? Surely he is involved in that and could face a ban in the future.
❤ we don't care we want ashworth when man united call you have to come
How about you actually pay the compensation fee using the Glazer's dividends, if that was ever a thing...
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
Because every shareholder gets dividends.
What’s with the 2mm close-up? 😂😂😂
To me it seems like he did inform Newcastle of the approach by UTD, then he was Sacked before the deal was formally agreed with Asheorth & Utd .Should not be a problem By the court , starts employment straight away !
Drop Ashworth like a bad habit !! He’s not the only qualified person for this position. MANY would love the opportunity to work at rebuilding MU. United do NOT need this kind of a messy situation at the beginning of the rebuild. DROP THIS GUY !!!
Good watch but its absolutely clutching at straws with the Ashworth was sacked and gardening leave would be null and void thing, the guy still gets paid so hes still an employee, its a mess of Man Uniteds own making so bottom line if they want the guy simply pay the money
Ashworth works for Newcastle United, to release him, the cost is whatever they want it to be, whether you like the cost or not, there’s a contract in place. The fee needs paid or walk away, Man Utd cannot just want a coach (ashworth) and expect Newcastle United to lower the price for him, come on !
How can he be "sacked" when he is still an employee and is being paid in full? If company secrets are at risk, they can remove him from his privileged position until the matter is resolved. hence gardening leave. also he will be in breach of contract and NDA's.
Is Ashworth the only best in class sporting director in the world. Instead of being drawn into a saga, UTD should have moved onto other targets and have a DOF/SD already in place.
Newcastle continued to pay his wages so he wasn't sacked. He was placed on garden leave because he was occupying a role that allowed him to identify and meet with potential targets for Newcastle United whilst also being aware of our long-term plans, at the same time he declared his interest in doing the exact same role for Manchester United. Hard to accept I know but the two clubs are competing on a similar level ATM, finishing one place above each other in the last two seasons. So no Newcastle didn't want him in and around the club
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
You can sack someone and still pay wages.
@BoldonBigLad
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot you can sack someone and give them a redundancy package. I've never heard of a case where somebody is sacked but still receives a salary.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@BoldonBigLad You can't sack someone and not pay their wages. Lol
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@BoldonBigLad Sacking and redundancy are two completely different things
I thought Jason Wilcox was the director of football.. Apparently, football is so complicated that a director of football also needs another director to direct himself to the correct path.
@Dera07
Ай бұрын
😂
@Stan.k.Phlaps6447
Ай бұрын
Wilcox is the technical director. It is a different role to the sporting director. Wilcox will be more focused on how all the teams play and how the coaches teach them to play. Sporting director oversees everything to do with football, including recruitment.
I thought for one to be placed on gardening leave they have to hand in a resignation letter first? He could be fined for disclosing info on the Brighton Newcastle deal but then he hadn’t handed in a resignation letter before the gardening. One word, greed from Newcastle. 20m for a sporting director 😂😂😂😂
@Charlton2010
Ай бұрын
15m to loan a player for 6 month who wasn’t even a regular in your team? 🤣
@philscott3759
25 күн бұрын
Yeah, don't play the angel. You lot are far from it :P
Trust. He’s not all that. Dropped the ball a few times for Newcastle
English 🔥
It’s not so strange that this is being played out in public. Journalists/Media getting hold of a negative Man Utd story must make some of them froth at the mouth. Negative United press sells! It is naive from Ashworth and maybe even clumsy from Berrada. It would be nice to get an end to this seemingly neverending drama. The off-the-pitch version of De Jong saga. It would be the final piece of the jigsaw.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
This "story" has been deliberately leaked from Utd so that Newcastle end up with £0. Nothing negative about it for Utd in any way
if he was placed on gardening leave too soon, Ashworth would have a case for unfair dismissal and compensation i would think. Newcastle cold end up paying Ashworth to leave, now that would be funny.
Let's move on and go for another option, every united business ends up being a public affairs, tired this bs
@Art-is-craft
29 күн бұрын
There is nothing Man Utd can do about that. Every club will try their luck for money.
It's a mess not to mention the indecision over Ten Hag.
Made it look like you got an interview with him. Clickbait.
He hasn't got a leg to stand on, no way newcastle have done anything wrong here.
Man Utd & Ashworths arbitration case is about as watertight as the Old Trafford roof. This is all beyond hilarious!
"Can't tap up players any more"... do me favour and don't make me laugh. It happens all the time. Many transfers these days are conducted between the buying and selling club, with the buying club already having established that the player would be happy to join on the basis of a broad contract proposal.
Ashworth will rot for 2 years. When you sign a 3 year contract you don't go sniding off to other clubs. Man U will get penalised for tapping him up.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
Who is going to penalise them? Lol
@darrenbrians5930
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot The FA. They did Liverpool for tapping up a academy player🤣. Man U will get a window ban for tapping up a director of football😬.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
Ай бұрын
@@darrenbrians5930 Yes, there are rules for tapping up players. What powers do the FA have to penalise a business appointment? A window ban? Lol
@darrenbrians5930
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot we'll see😁
@darrenbrians5930
Ай бұрын
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot We have proof he has been in contact with Man U while under contract with us. Why should man U benefit in transfer window. By one of our staff. Watch this space😬
We always add Drama to everything we do in this club. We can't even get the executives in right yet😂
Why do you think everything related to Manchester United gets exposed and scrutinized left right and center.
How can he be sacked if hes still on payroll and getting paid by the club still?