Seeing rifles like the 527 go away and then this. Such a disappointment

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

That is kind of insulting isn't it? Had a good rifle.... got rid of everything to come out with one new one that did check the boxes.... and then "nah, screw it...."

I’d just get a refund and put the money toward a used 557, the 600’s biggest selling point is now gone and what’s left is a rifle that is FAR less impressive than the rifles it was intended to replace. Incredibly stupid and shortsighted decisions coming out of CZ lately.

This is why I usually try and wait about a year after something new is released. Anything man made is prone to failure so I like giving things a chance to see if they’re gonna sink or swim. Hopefully CZ corrects this quickly cause I was really looking forward to trying one out

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting. They can easily fix this but the big thing is that it will no longer be a user swappable barrel... which was the big selling point.

@lJUSTwanaCOMMENT

Жыл бұрын

In this case I wish I'd have bought one of the first ones. Quick changeable 600's are probably going for a fortune now.

@silvermediastudio

11 ай бұрын

The issue wasn't with CZ or the design. The issue was with end users who failed to read/follow directions and properly install the swappable barrels. As usual, a handful of assholes ruin it for everybody.

I'm sorry but if you are buying the rifle knowing it's a switch barrel then you will need to know to check those screws. I do think it's weird they didn't go with a threaded barrel design and a simple set screw and call it a day. I love the design and was hoping to pick one up for some testing. Personally I think some loc tite on the set screws torqued to spec and you will be golden.

So CZ stopped making the 527 & 550 & replaced both with the 600. Not very smart by CZ. I wish they would bring back the 527 & 550 in wood. I have lost faith in CZ. Come on guys. Get it together. Smh

@cs-rj8ru

Жыл бұрын

The 527 was by far the most popular centerfire they made. The 550 was ok, but never held a candle to the 527 popularity wise. At shows I see 527s bringing over 1k routinely now. 550s tend to bring around 7-800 at best (Exception being the Kevlar "varmint".)

@MrMoobYaaj

Жыл бұрын

The 557 replaced the 550. The 600 replaced the 557.

I just bought a 600 first thing that I did is went to the web site Love the rifle so far👍

@shawnsnow6413

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the amount of hate this gun is getting because of the swappable barrel recall is ridiculous. It's a fantastic gun at a great price.

Nice plug for the local gun shop! Love it! Bunch of good guys.

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

They are indeed! Even hooked up a couple of channel members throughout the country with some ammo!

I must of missed the release on this one…. I usually keep up on all the new releases through KZread….. but this one snuck past me. Interesting design, but like you said if they permanently attach the barrel it pretty much takes the whole appeal away

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! There is a linked video in the cards where we discussed the launch in December. This was one of the key points we brought up. Maybe this "recall" is a way for CZ to save face about overpriced caliber changes?

I would not send this gun in if I had one. Whoever hasn’t heard of CZ must be living under a rock. Didn’t they just acquired Colt and partnering with Dan Wesson(DWX). The CZ 75 is the most ergonomic pistol I’ve ever held. If you make enough of anything you will make a few mistakes.

How would one identify if a new shop CZ 600 has been fixed or not without removing the stock to look for the barrel mounting screws? Is there a notification sticker or anything?

@SlavGuns

8 ай бұрын

If you bought it in the past year, it is post recall. You can open the action from the stock and see if the quick detach bolts have industrial thread locker on them.

Thanks for the information. I was thinking about buying one but I want to see one first. Is the stock any good or is it just cheap plastic? I do not like a plastic trigger guard as part of the whole molded stock like a lot of the other cheaper rifles either. Is that a separate trigger guard?

im usually one to wait a bit before i buy

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

Generally a good idea. =)

@joemorganeatmyshortschannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@SlavGuns yeah slav everything has teething troubles on release also I'm glad you recovered and are back making videos the plague really laid us out

I picked one up for $450. It has some nice features, a quality barrel, an excellent trigger, and is inherently more accurate than anything close to it's price range. Honestly don't give a crap about the swappable barrel.

@SlavGuns

2 ай бұрын

If you were able to pick it up for $450, that is a steal. Majority of us who bought early, all paid $700 or close to $800 or more... I do agree, for $450, minus rebate, this was fantastic rifle. Did full review on it. =)

@shawnsnow6413

2 ай бұрын

@@SlavGuns I get the people who paid $800 for the barrel swap, but you can get them for $500 now people are still trashing a solid gun that's stand on its own without a gimmicky barrel system. Show me a better rifle for $500-600.

@SlavGuns

2 ай бұрын

@@shawnsnow6413 if you buy the rifle and you’re never gonna make any changes to it, it’s one of the better values. However, if you plan on making any modifications, such as putting it into a chassis, swapping the trigger, or you want a different scope Pace, you are SOL. You have an integrated scope base, so you cannot put in a 30 or 40 MOA rail, the magazines are horrendous, and I had the plastic base plate fall off numerous times, and the trigger while it is a decent single stage trigger I prefer two stage triggers.

I thought your guess about it being a firing pin issue would be the answer. It seems suspicious that the barrels were secure during testing but now it’s an issue when they hit the market. Yeah right.

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

I really do believe it is an issue with the quick change system.... but perhaps the "screws being loose" is just an excuse to stop offering a "quick change" system as part of it. Who knows, I am sure more details will come out. I am going to try and keep an eye out on the torque on the barrel screws as we put some rounds downrange. A friend apparently has more info, but so far has to stay mum on it.

They should have looked at the blaser and sako switch barrel rifles. CZ missed the marked on this one.

@SlavGuns

10 ай бұрын

for sure!

Well Fuddle Cakes, I wish a I had gotten one of the first rifles with the swappable barrels. Being a grown up, I think I can handle keeping things together. Could have changed barrels very easily......Oh well.... Now, how are they 'Fixing" these rifles? Are they just tig welding in place the bolts or what?

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

Yep.... Unfortunately even if you have an un-neutered rifle, no one else is going to make a replacement barrel, especially since this is a different design... the lugs are built into the barrel, not the receiver. I have not seen a neutured rifle yet but my understanding is they use a permanent locktite like compound on the screws.

Great video!!! Just in time I thought to buy a CZ 600. Is this a problem due to loose screws? if so, can they be installed on a thread lock and the problem will go away or is the problem more?

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently, that is what I believe it is and what they suggested. Will thread lock solve it? Probably. I believe they are using something a bit stronger/more permanent. Keep in mind, with this "recall" they are also removing a BIG reason to consider the CZ600, user swappable caliber changes. Going forward, the caliber changes can only be done by CZ or authorized CZ center.

I think this video should at least mention the fact that the receiver is made of aluminum. This is problematic at best. Coupled with the clamping style design just seems to be a recipe for trouble.

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

thanks. So this video is focused on the recall. I have two other videos where we discuss the aluminum receiver including the full review. I purchased an Alpha in 6.5 PRC. The other models actually use a steel receiver. Realistically though, i don't believe the aluminum receiver will be a big issue as the strength is still in the barrel, especially since the lugs for the bolt are in the actual barrel, and not on the receiver. The main issue I see with aluminum receiver models, cannot replace the Pic rail to 30 or 40 MOA.

I notice in your Ruger RPR video you mentioned Timney and Jard triggers. Would you guys happen to be located in the Sioux Falls SD area? Jard Mfg is right nearby in Sibley Iowa and for a small machine shop they make some great stuff

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

I am in PA. :)

@sgtstedanko7186

2 жыл бұрын

@@SlavGuns I just think that's cool you mentioned Jard. I've toured their shop. They're a small ma and pop op.

Just about any other barrel solution would have been better. Unfortunately, like many European companies that have come stateside, their “innovations” have been poorly executed gimmicks that didn’t solve a real problem. Recalls then follow. Almost all barrels are user interchangeable with about $150 in tools. If you are going to invest in changing barrels, this really is trivial. Not to mention that 99% of people that buy a “switch barrel rifle” never actually use the feature… Even ARs… Yup, people buy separate receivers (or rifles), not barrels, when they want another cartridge. CZ quality is good, and that is not the problem here. It is just a gimmicky feature that the majority of customers will neither use, nor maintain correctly.

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

Spot on.... and unfortunately due to this overpromised on features, and under-delivered, it tarnishes the reputation even more. And it is a pretty nice rifle otherwise. Did a complete review on the 6.5 PRC rifle I bought.

Thanks for the great video if you could turn up your volume it would be very helpful thank you

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. I generally keep the volume a weee bit lower in order to not blast out ear drums, especially since you can raise volume on YT videos. For this one, I actually recorded it from FFL with my iphone, so audio turned out lower than I thought. Thanks for watching!

It's a pity that I didn't see your video earlier, I already made a payment to the store for CZ 600 308 win reviews that they are not good ( Or until it's too late to demand a refund, what do you think?

High temp loctite?

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

From one thing I saw, that is what they are going to do. In essence they are pulling the plug on the DIY barrel swaps. OR this was an excuse once they realized that it would be too expensive to provide enough barrels for people to swap own barrels.

@alz.7716

2 жыл бұрын

@@SlavGuns I may not be understanding this correctly, because my experience is that you can remove high temp loctite with enough torque applied. Example: bolts affixing gas keys to bolt carriers on AR-15s.

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

@@alz.7716 I believe there are some thread lockers that are higher strength. Will try to get clarification.

@alz.7716

2 жыл бұрын

@@SlavGuns there are. I was asking why it couldn't have been a DIY fix with just the high temp stuff, thereby maintaining the barrel swapping option.

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

@@alz.7716 I am guessing yes… but ultimately not sure CZ wants the risk? Also keep in mind this saves them money. By making barrel swaps only available through authorized CZ dealers and gunsmiths.

They have a great gun and then 1/2 ass a stick and safety. I don’t get it

Well no point in the rifle then. Just saying.

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. A BIG reason to get the CZ 600 is no longer there. Really looking forward to comparing it to the Savage 110 Tactical

Saudades dos cz 550. Estilo Mauser.

Doing away with the 527 is a huge and stupid decision on CZ part. I will not purchase a 600 series fishing weight!!!! The 527 was the best production rifle on the market in my opinion without going to a custom build!!!!

what a load of crap. CZ is the largest gun manufacturer in the world. Their rifles have been legends since the 1940s and even earlier. just because USA has its head up its.....browning, doesnt mean rifles from outside USA are from junk shops

@SlavGuns

2 жыл бұрын

No, cz is definitely NOT the largest gun manufacturer in the world. Far from it. They definitely have history however Ruger, Taurus, Glock, and others produce A LOT more firearms on an annual basis. This recall is also for rifles worldwide, not just in the United States. CZ has brought out many great products but definitely prone to issues as well. Keep in mind, CZ replaced all of their existing centerfire models with this, the CZ 600, precisely because their old rifles were no longer getting traction.

@cs-rj8ru

Жыл бұрын

I always heard Izhmash was?

@gnarl12

Жыл бұрын

CZ screwed the CZ 600 up so bad it's STILL on recall and not being sold in December 2022...... What a disaster

🤣 Typical Americans saying no one has heard of CZ. Ffs

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

Considering that CZ has less than 2 to 4% of the market share in the United States... yeah.... relatively no one has. =) They are also chambering guns predominantly in European calibers instead of what is popular here.

@nigelbase1196

Жыл бұрын

@@SlavGuns Why should you yanks have it all YOUR own way... America is NOT the only country in the world....that's why their rifle's are being chambered in "European" calibres.... you can't have your own way all of the time!

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

@@nigelbase1196 because when the worlds biggest gun market is the United States, IF you want to sell here, you need to cater to gun owners here. You know… us peasants with guns in America, not just Royals in Europe. Lol. I have no problem with CZ making Euro specific models… for Euro markets, but they are largely unheard of here, in large part due to trying to push Euro centric guns on American gun owners… think of the decades they have tried to sell Mauser actions when the country moved on to push feeds. Very few American gun owners need a CRF 550 when going on Safari…. And even now majority of hunting outfits are no longer requiring CRF.

@cs-rj8ru

Жыл бұрын

@@nigelbase1196 When it comes to firearms we generally have it our way. The rest of you global wienies have voted away all of your firearms rights. American (civilians) own 40% of the worlds firearms. Pretty strong base to pay attention to. Yeah, you're right...Most Americans cant stand laser burned fish scales on rifle stocks, Must be a Euro thing?

@gnarl12

Жыл бұрын

@@nigelbase1196 lol let's see how many guns are sold on the entire EU vs the USA.....

The cowards at CZ are refusing to give me my money back on an unfired rifle. I ordered mine over a year ago and it only recently came in to the store that I purchased it from, unknowing about any of the recalls or lack of ability to replace the barrel. Ill never buy another CZ product again. Such a disgraceful company.

@SlavGuns

Жыл бұрын

Wait... go through this again? Ordered it over a year ago... got a receipt? Did you submit the receipt when you paid for it originally to the CZ recall site?

@lawlcosteroflulz

Жыл бұрын

@@SlavGuns Yes - the people at CZ said a recall was already done on the weapon and that it was safe. I explained that I was unaware of the changes and recall and that I originally bought the firearm for it modular abilities. They stated that they haven’t advertised it as modular in over a year and basically said they cant issue a refund as there is nothing wrong with the gun mechanically. They then blamed the gun shop for not letting me know about the recall. Cowardly move on behalf of CZ.