I wonder, how long before the Lion finds him.

@Hunter12365

Жыл бұрын

😬

@gunthergiel7088

Жыл бұрын

Brotherreunion😂

@juliadwiggins-jo3fo

Жыл бұрын

Give it like a week

@chucklytell

Жыл бұрын

he wont, Cypher will find him

@mosessingleton7553

Жыл бұрын

@@chucklytell and the Lion will be waiting. 💯

Cypher is three watchers in the dark, standing on each others shoulders.

@theophrastusbombastus1359

Жыл бұрын

#ThreeWatchersInATrenchcoat

@vicnedel02

3 ай бұрын

interrogator chaplain Asmodai demands to know how you've learned this.

@namelesswarrior1187

Ай бұрын

I am Cypher. This is a lie

I wonder if he's actually another perpetual, carrying out some deed for malcador, I don't think he's a villain, but the quintessential dark angel.

@michaelgautreaux3168

Жыл бұрын

🤔 hmmmmmm. Me thinks that being able to out Omegon - ing Alpharius while out Alpharius- ing Omegon gives the perpetual deal substance. 👍👍

@charlyspor7594

Жыл бұрын

​@@michaelgautreaux3168 I cannot comprehend this sentence

He must be loyal to some extent if the emperor said wait, and he did. Look forward to more lore coming out about him, and meeting the lion

I'm personally a fan of the theory that Cypher is Omegon. It's the perfect cover for a primarch who has to help the Imperium, but also influence his fallen legion. There's no way Omegon is walking around looking like an Alpha Legionaire. I think he wants to return to the Emperor and pledge his allegiance anew and awaken the loyal Alpha legionaires beneath the palace. It also makes some poetic sense to me. The primarch of the last legion disguised as a member of the first.

@leowilly29

Жыл бұрын

Someone is watching majorkill here

@YanM1346

Жыл бұрын

I was about to write the same! I wouldnt be surprised if its Omegon or Alpharius (who know lol) with all the secrecy and spying around and the twin primarch being the same size a regular astartes but its probably Corswain or Zahariel, wouldn't trust GW to make that plot twist with the twim primarchs

@AzraelMight

Жыл бұрын

@@YanM1346 the best way to refer to him is “the son of Malkador”

@SergentJConn

6 ай бұрын

The problem is that the Ultramarines Primark would have recognized him.. Unless he is that good concealing

@sugarcombfilms3467

Ай бұрын

I would really hate if one of the Dark Angels' most popular and renowned characters turned out to not even be a Dark Angel.

itll be interesting if the lion meets cypher and immediately names him since he remembers all his sons names

@dittmar104

9 ай бұрын

Or will the acknowledge the tradition of his title and refuse to use his given name?

@I_am-lost.

6 ай бұрын

He does that, but the scene cuts before we can find out. Next time we see him, everyone's cool with him

So I'd like to make a clarification. In Luther novel "Luther: First of the fallen" the archtraitor himself does say that Corswain and Zahariel were seen combating each other but who came victorious from their battle was not clarified. Also Corswain is not stated to be the Dark Angel's first Supreme Grand Master as that role waa taken by Farith Redloss, voted commander of the Dreadwing. So Cypher's identity is a mystery with the most prominent candidates being Zahariel or Corswain. This claim seems to be supported by a quote in the "Unforgiven" novel where Cypher sees a champion of the Ravenwing using Corswain's sword amd adresses him:" I knew a great man who carried that blade. You better honour his memory" or smth similar I can't remember the exact excerpt. So it is either Zahariel thinking of Corswain or it is Corswain himself applauding himself.

@vagner13

Жыл бұрын

exactly

@johndevine3707

Жыл бұрын

Nice work red shirt guy 👏

@Florian0103

Жыл бұрын

maybe they are both cypher

@velstadtvonausterlitz2338

Жыл бұрын

Or the supposed "executed" unknown lorr cypher survived the execution, and continued his fight after he was thrown into the warp to do the emperor's will.

@sajadhoxhaj6603

Жыл бұрын

@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 not likely since that cypher is sooo dead. In the novel Angels of Caliban he and Zahariel fight each other and Zahariel subdues him using his psychic powers and breaks his legs in order to see who he was. I remember he told his fellow librarians to get rid of the body afterwards

This omegon is soo funny isn't he 😅? Edited by inquisition

The fact the Lion can Forestwalk tells me that Cypher is absolutely one of his sons and has a similar, lesser, ability

@dittmar104

9 ай бұрын

That makes total sense. So many other primarchs have kindred sons who share in their powers, like magnus' sorcerers or Corax's shadow walkers. Hilarious if he was just the lion the whole time but nobody noticed. Just a little bit of his soul clipped off by luther.

@Joseph-mw2rl

8 ай бұрын

Forest walking is an ascendant ability, like Corvus's "turn into ravens" ability. No son of the primarch would inherit these abilities, at most they would have the lite version of wraith slipping, and never the ascendant ability. It's power level requirement is too high for normal astartes

@dittmar104

8 ай бұрын

@@Joseph-mw2rl Corax’s ability is illusions just like his psyker sons

@jeremiegartner464

4 ай бұрын

Cypher is Omegon. A primarch. So he could walk on another plane

Wait a minute, hold up. The Emperor did speak to Cypher. I know I remember hearing that. He was about to do something (can't remember exactly what) and then a Custode told him to "Wait" and then The Big E spoke with him. Nobody knows what was said yet. Pretty sure I'd heard that from MajorKill.

@aslambhatti8932

Жыл бұрын

He was about to kill emperor on terra, and the remaining custodes got a sms from big E and big E said to cypher not now. Cypher wanted to kill big e so he can ressurect and end chaos but big E said now is not the tome for that a little longer

@Knight-chaplainashriel

Жыл бұрын

@@aslambhatti8932 Thank you! Couldn't remember the exacts of the encounter. Save the Custodes saying,"Wait." I knew I'd heard that somewhere.

@theophrastusbombastus1359

Жыл бұрын

​@Interrogator-Chaplain Ashriel I thought it was Big E that said "wait" Or did I pick things up wrong?

@ReverendPONT

Жыл бұрын

​@@theophrastusbombastus1359you got it right. Big E used the Custode to tell Cypher to wait. Big E reanimated the Custode to do it also. After the message was delivered the Custode fell over dead from wounds he got some time before.

@Lost7one

Жыл бұрын

this is wrong, read the book

I hadn't heard of the theory that Cypher is Omegaron before. I quite like that if he picked up this role being a loyal son of the Emperor but needing to hide himself after the Heresy and this being the reasoning for the prophecy in the Alpharius primary book.

Quintessential 40k character, he is iconic. And like many things about the lore, his motivations are inscrutable.

Thank you for this! I can only see cypher being 1 person and that’s omegon no other could escape from that prison and defeat the people he has without being of equal power of a primarch and his ability to manipulate as the serpent can honestly has to be omegon

Glad you covered this guy. He's pretty cool

I would like cypher to be zahariel as it would close the circle with him and the emperor. By once saving him and now "freeing" the emperor from the golden throne.

OH, what if he was actually running around for lion to collect and recruit the fallen to become “risen” and was carrying lions sword with him as proof of the lions commitment to give them atonement.

While I can't wait for the Lion to meet and hug Rowboat, I am so keen to see a meeting with Cypher!

I was waiting for this one. In particular. Thanks dude. Great work as ever.

I cannot wait for this one! Cypher is my favourite character!

You know it'd be kind of funny if cypher didn't know who he was supporting like he had no clue what he was doing either. He was just going with the flow the whole time

I believe Cypher is either alpharion or omegon. His ability for deception, manipulation, and misdirection are the trademark of the alpha Legion.

@moodyowlproductions4287

Жыл бұрын

This is a lie

@theophrastusbombastus1359

Жыл бұрын

​​@@moodyowlproductions4287 The cake is a lie - this is _subterfudge_

@AzraelMight

Жыл бұрын

He is the son of Malkador

@Lost7one

Жыл бұрын

this is silly, even for 40k conspiracy theories

One thing that was kinda wrong was that after the breaking of Caliban Corswain didn’t take over the dark angels, instead Farith Redloss leader of the dreadwing became the first chapter master. By all accounts Corswain disappeared after his battle with cypher. That’s why Corswain is probably cyphers most likely identity.

I have waited for this particular elucidation from the very first of your transmissions Master❣️ Absolutely Astonishing 💎

@Ghaztoir

Жыл бұрын

Da fuq??

He is Omegon. The story fits to well of how he blends in and escapes. Plus playing neutral

Omegon himself ;).

Forgot to say that he used to carry a c’tan blade but it was absorbed into the Deceiver when he 1v1’d the C’tan.

Plot twist he's one of the enhanced experiments that escaped from Luna

Cypher, he helped G-man get out of the rift he got trapped in along with the Cabal of Eldars, he only asked for an audience with the Emperor, sadly it was not to be, he was caught by the Custodians :)

Cypher is the best character in the entire setting

Awesome and informational video 🎉

I just got into an argument with someone who claimed NO fallen exept Luther turned to chaos. Thank you for yhis confirmation.

Im also going with the theory that the cure Cypher is Alpharius/Omegon. Like others have said he operates just like an Alpha Legionary. But doubters saying that Alpharius died......if anyone had a way to fool his brothers into thinking that they are dead it would be Alpharius.

Thank you for your information video

Im on The Fallen Angels book now, I remeber back a yr ago when i 1st read the term "Remembrancer" w/the name Eurfrati Keeler and i would kind of skim read those sections b4 i realized her importance, but i definitely dont "skim" your videos! Thx, love this 40K world, HH book 11/54 to go! YT Lore Vids Got me into it all, never heard of 40k befor then!

@leonhardable

Жыл бұрын

11/54 oh boy youre in for a shit time for the next 5 books 😂 some horrid authors coming up, iirc gav thorpe shat out something roughly at 14 but do not fret, brother, ADB and Dan "The Bauz" Abnett are already on the horizon

@diddy8706

Жыл бұрын

@@leonhardable I'm ready 2 get to some blood angels stuff!!!

Damn that was a rad video

Finally Cypher and the Lion finally meet and both say "I am Alpharius" LoL

The truth is, like many things in 40k the answers Gw gives us will likely be disappointing. Hopefully Cypher’s intentions remain unclear

One has to agree with the fact that his modus operandi is more in line with the Alpha Legion than the Dark Angels…Alpharius was able to hide his true identity from the Lion, so it is possible that Cypher is not a Fallen Dark Angel at all…

@Spr1ggan87

Жыл бұрын

The Dark Angels are also into clandestine operations, they sent a force to attack Terra and capture Cypther, those sent killed loyalist Marines and Custodes, had their markings removed, and used melta bombs on their own dead to hide their actions. Also Cypher clearly has the same forest walking ability we saw The Lion use recently.

Unrelated to the video content - not sure how you still hasn’t blown up on KZread yet. The visuals and audio for your content is always fantastic. You really deserve luetin numbers buddy, please keep up the amazing work! ❤

Another brilliant video on omegon I mean cypher also would you ever do a video on Gabriel Seth

"Scary theory? He's making up his own covert ops"' - The Cypher Identity

I cannot to have a meeting between the Lion, the risen Angels and the Dark angels

excellent

Cyphe4 is omegon calling it now.

Cypher is definitely Alpharius

@martina6212

Жыл бұрын

“Omegon”

@jaskegoffii3968

Жыл бұрын

@@martina6212 Who is, in reality, Alpharius

@martina6212

Жыл бұрын

@@jaskegoffii3968 Einhorn is Finkle!

@cogline9

Жыл бұрын

"This is a lie."

@moodyowlproductions4287

Жыл бұрын

This is a lie

First model i ever bought and painted

favorite 40k channel, the voice, the detail, its peak!

Cypher is really Corax, planning the long game at the Emperors intenient Planning his restriction to start child Jus a 3 am insomnia treatment

Nice premiere time let's goooo

This is a character that GW wont have any idea what to do with.

Ursaka creed approves, and says thanks for the gun

A Interaction for the Interaction God, a Comment for the Comment Throne, for the Almighty Algorithm

What if their are two of them

I hope to see video of Mephiston soon

i reckon he is corswain

CYPHER IS OMEGON, long live the single hydra

I feel like real identity of Cypher, turning out to be Alpharius/Omegon, would fit quite well.

I personally believe Cypher is Zahariel. He is an insanely powerful Psyker, and one who is loyal to Caliban and the Primarch above all else. I believe he is a perpetual much like Gramaticus, and was gifted powers and knowledge from the Watchers and the Cabal. Who learned there lesson with Gramaticus and Alpharion Omegon, who didn't heed there warnings and instead chose to follow other plans and ideals. Cypher is the embodiment of the Order, and the Knights of Caliban, and with the return of Lion El'Johnson, Zahariel will finally show himself to his brother Azrael, and his mentor and father figure the Lion.

With the new son of the forest book. What if cypher was a projection of the Lions mind in his sleep. Reaching out from this warp forest to aid his sons. Like a shard of him. The watchers seem to live there with him. Explains how cypher disappears and escapes. He just goes into the warp forest.

Cypher is the imperium greatest hope or its greatest threat

I still like to believe that he's Zahariel.

The lion laid eyes on Cypher and exclaimed "Holy hell, Gary is that you!? You remember where we stashed the weed? It's been 10,000 years" To which Cypher replied "Yes gene-father... As a matter of fact I have an ounce left of Lemon Sororitas Haze, would you like to hit this bong I integrated into my plasma pistol? The mechanicus integrated a triple percolator"😎😎😎

an interesting thing GR seems to recognize the sword.

(A chaos astartes taking notes) Space Marines that I need to avoid: Cypher Asterion Moloc Tyberos the Red Wake Astorath the Grim Kaldor Draigo

The theory of Cypher being alpharius/Oregon isn't likely, primarchs can sense each other, so when he was in the presence of guilliman, guilliman would have known.

@Noobmensch

Жыл бұрын

Alpharius has stated(probably a lie) that he has met many of his brothers without them knowing

@tickleberrypie8662

Жыл бұрын

The problem with that is alpharius’ ability was literally to “hide his presence” from other people.

@timrogers9191

Жыл бұрын

@@tickleberrypie8662 As stated above. Alpharius was the true first found Primarch, and Malcador tutored him specifically in masking his presence.

@benhur933

Жыл бұрын

@@tickleberrypie8662 then how was dorn able to pick him out when they met.

@Spr1ggan87

Жыл бұрын

@@tickleberrypie8662 Didn't Alpharius or Omegaon also state that The Lion immediately saw thorugh him.

Out of curiosity, where do you get all of your images in the background? I like to use them as reference materials for mini painting, but have a hard time finding them.

@TheRemembrancer

Жыл бұрын

My archive is drawn from a variety of sources but I am afraid there is no one resource which compiles them all

Can’t handle this dude saying Loofer instead of Luther over and over again. Lord of the bathroom back scratchers.

It's not Omegon, it's alpharius duh

@gregorysiegel1178

Жыл бұрын

It’s alpharius pretending to be Omegon

@moodyowlproductions4287

Жыл бұрын

This is a lie

@AzraelMight

Жыл бұрын

He is the son of Malkador

8:05 I thought Farith Redloss became the first Supreme Grand Master?

@sbeaber

Жыл бұрын

Correct. Corswain was missing

Cypher fills the same role as Alpharius Omegon, where thier actions are so mysterious and seeminly nonsensical from an outside perspective that the logical leaps and theories become increasingly more detached from reality simply by virtue of trying to make sense of their actions.

8:06 is this true and verifiable Remebrancer? Is so I knew it!!! There was no other named dark angles left at the end of heresy that was more than capable of filling the lions shoes. Corswain is such a badass who better to serve as the first supreme grandmaster of the chapter as lord seneschal of the dark angels legion Corswain knew his gene father would never have allowed Gulliman to break up his legion so enshrined that the unforgiven chapters would be a legion in all but name.

Hay I would like to know did the lion meet Cypher

Is it omegon?

I think Cypher is operating under the direct orders of the Emperor.

Me"man.... who is this guy"? Cypher"yeah..to be honest..even I myself am not sure at this point"?

Can Cipher please just accidentally let loose one of the lost primarchs as he wrecks his way out of the palace? Then we find out that theres 10000 year old space marines loyal to said lost primarch and the watchers in the dark work for for the lost legion

What are the watchers?

so the lion did forgive some of the fallen angels (and they are still alive?) That the dark angels were hunting?

some say he is the third brother primarch of the alpha legion Omegon any one know if thats true. seeking forgivness just like the fallen? if the 1st forgives the fallen why not him?

Who's gonna break the cipher for cypher?

Cypher no cyphing.

Farith Redloss took over the Legion after Caliban. Corswain was missing.

Cypher’s armor is black, not dark green. The Inquisition is on its way.

I say he is either Alpharius or an Alpha Legion plant!

What if he is The Hero

Cypher is Omegon

I think cypher can forest walk like the lion

Zahariel?

Just one suggestion. I think for future videos it would be great if you got all facts before recording. Zahariel wasn't Lord Cypher until much much later. In fact, only after Zahariel fell to Chaos, he killed the original Cypher and assumed the mantle. In your video you make it sound as if he was Cypher from the start, which simply isn't the case. What is true thou that the identity of the current Cypher is shrouded in mystery, and Zahariel is a hot contender (for the aforementioned reason), although he was presumably killed by Corswain, which would mean it cannot be him (other candidates are Corswain, or if you want to go all tinfoil mode Omegon from the Alpha Legion)

Zahariel El'Zurias? I thought this was Cypher

👍👍.

Ah yes lord Cypher, the guy known for pulling chaos cults and greater Deamons out of his booty hole, man was a real problem a few months ago

Ω

I don't think Cypher is traitor his circular path leads to terra and his ability to escape I believe comes from the wmperor

Maybe He's a eldar

Luther did nothing wrong. The destruction of Caliban's natural forests was the foulest crime.

Maybe his patron is malice.

@Darby-qu6hz

28 күн бұрын

Is true chaos

Not wanting to be pedantic, but a forebear is an ancestor, not a descendant. Just an fyi.

Who does the narration?

@TheRemembrancer

Жыл бұрын

I work alone on these humble transmissions

@nomsi4263

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRemembrancer is that your actual voice? If so, goddam

i AM ALPHARIUS

@moodyowlproductions4287

Жыл бұрын

This is a lie