Customer Sued Over Huge Tip To Waitress

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

They say he confirmed the amount and then changed his mind after they paid her.
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  • @Muddfoot01
    @Muddfoot0128 күн бұрын

    So sounds like he did the tip for online clout in a video, but he didn't get the views he was looking for. People are idiots.

  • @damiang888

    @damiang888

    28 күн бұрын

    Probably decided from the start to do it and then dispute the charge, and just didn't expect the restaurant actually confirming the amount with him. That or he realized that the high of giving away 3k for online clout is a fleeting feeling and decided he rather had the money.

  • @Poppagee69

    @Poppagee69

    28 күн бұрын

    He was planning on getting to give her the flesh tip later as her giving thanks and now I hope it breaks his bank . FRAUD 101

  • @Migglesworth

    @Migglesworth

    28 күн бұрын

    "So sounds like he did the tip for online clout in a video, but he didn't get the views he was looking for. People are idiots." Yes, people who start sentences with, "so" are idiots.

  • @circeciernova1712

    @circeciernova1712

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@Migglesworth As are those whose YT account begins with an M

  • @geoffh1

    @geoffh1

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@MigglesworthGet out of here. You had grammar errors in your post too.

  • @E.Carrillo
    @E.Carrillo28 күн бұрын

    The fact that they went out to the guy and confirmed he was tipping that amount absolutely makes this a promise.

  • @lilmike2710

    @lilmike2710

    28 күн бұрын

    Signing a receipt expressly agreeing to leave the tip makes it a promise from the start.

  • @mbburry4759

    @mbburry4759

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@lilmike2710 yah but easily disputable. It's not like they can't be altered, a mistake made, or anyone takes the signature stuff seriously... but it was confirmed here, not just left on the table

  • @inbcetc3569

    @inbcetc3569

    28 күн бұрын

    What about jesus? ​@@mbburry4759

  • @LiquidTang

    @LiquidTang

    28 күн бұрын

    @@lilmike2710ehh, ppl make mistakes and you don’t know their financial situation. Saw a similar story of on old lady they accidentally tipped way too much and couldn’t afford it and the store was trying so to fight to keep it

  • @GamingArcane

    @GamingArcane

    28 күн бұрын

    @@LiquidTang Because when you issue a chargeback, you don't just get the money back. The store has to pay another transaction fee ontop of the transaction fee they paid to run the card in the first place. You're essentially stealing money from the store when you do this.

  • @MatthewHill
    @MatthewHill27 күн бұрын

    This title is misleading. It should be "Customer Sued after RENEGING on Huge Tip to Waitress." Very different thing.

  • @davidglad

    @davidglad

    26 күн бұрын

    If they didn't indicate seeing the customer's id (mentioned early in this), I'd seriously wonder if it was the cardholder who did that. As it doesn't sound like the restaurant would lie on that detail

  • @cornishmaid9138

    @cornishmaid9138

    25 күн бұрын

    I don’t think it was a lie, just a grammar problem. Had the word ‘was’ been used, i.e ‘Customer “was” sued over huge tip’, it would have made better sense.

  • @sublimeade

    @sublimeade

    25 күн бұрын

    Renegging

  • @chipdiesel9788

    @chipdiesel9788

    25 күн бұрын

    Not really, it's written correctly, you me and many others just made an assumption

  • @mikeappleget482

    @mikeappleget482

    25 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@chipdiesel9788as if this title wasn’t written that way knowing precisely that people would “make assumptions”.. 🙄

  • @sddirt6840
    @sddirt684027 күн бұрын

    My brother has an online store, and he was telling me that people commonly buy stuff and dispute the charges. Or, they will buy something and return it, except they return an empty box. Or a box with random trash in it. There are so many dishonest people out there nowadays, it makes me sick.

  • @undrhil

    @undrhil

    27 күн бұрын

    People do that at Walmart every day

  • @hoolihanohoolihan1011

    @hoolihanohoolihan1011

    27 күн бұрын

    And it seems any small business is utterly incapable of winning a dispute, bc the credit card companies in America are bullshit

  • @rossk4864

    @rossk4864

    26 күн бұрын

    I live in central Alaska where my daughter worked at a recycling center that received surplus and returned products and materials from contractors and businesses. Due to the expense of shipping back to the lower 48, Lowes and Home Depot sent all returned merchandise to this recycler, rather than ship it back to their headquarters thousands of miles away, under the agreement that the recycler would shred and salvage the metals only, however, they allowed employees to take home whatever they could use. I received numerous, expensive appliances and equipment from my daughter with absolutely nothing wrong with them. Lacking service departments, the big box stores couldn't verify customer claimed defects, and I believe many items had been purchased with the intent of one-time use and then were returned to the store for full refund. This becomes the cost of doing business, and I am certain, a significant inflation driver.

  • @absurdengineering

    @absurdengineering

    26 күн бұрын

    @@rossk4864In Europe they’ll just laugh you out of the store if you would return something for anything but an actual failure to perform. No “changed my mind” BS. The used stuff lists here can be surreal in places. No “changed mind” so once people get tired of stuff they sell it often for not much. And being a hoarder with typical apartments here is not viable for any length of time. People have to get rid of stuff and the secondhand market thrives. Not everywhere of course.

  • @rossk4864

    @rossk4864

    26 күн бұрын

    @@absurdengineering This doesn't surprise me. In the U.S. of years gone by, sales staff had a thorough knowledge of tools, equipment and materials they sold, and returns were inspected, tested and evaluated before refund. With big box stores, many of the sales staff have very little knowledge so a customer can easily make up a story of a bogus defect and the clerk in the store cannot inspect the item and tell whether or not it is really defective. Management apparently thinks it is better to accept all returns without question and add the cost of this deception to overhead. Very sad but true.

  • @capq57
    @capq5728 күн бұрын

    You'll never convince me that social media has been a net positive for humanity.

  • @anonnona8099

    @anonnona8099

    28 күн бұрын

    @capq57 > You'll never convince me that social media has been a net positive for humanity. One day we will shut them all down. When that day comes we will wonder what took us so long.

  • @carlcarlson5553

    @carlcarlson5553

    28 күн бұрын

    It's has/will. Something to understand is we will have to get used to social media. It's a brand new thing

  • @justanoman6497

    @justanoman6497

    28 күн бұрын

    Kind of depend on where you are. For us, who live in developed country, it's causing excessive amount of trash information and is thus likely a net negative. But for third world countries where alternative means of information is either unavailable or unreliable(due to government control), it is an important tool.

  • @scottmitchell1974

    @scottmitchell1974

    28 күн бұрын

    It's evil, for sure.

  • @idminister

    @idminister

    28 күн бұрын

    its just a tool, neither good nor evil, neither positive nor negative. All the negative and evil is from people. it is nothing more than a tool that shows to large numbers the true nature of people, a nature that is and was prior to any technology even in antiquity

  • @kevinslater4126
    @kevinslater412628 күн бұрын

    What a jerk. This guy deserves to lose.

  • @user-jb4xv4im9o

    @user-jb4xv4im9o

    28 күн бұрын

    Using the name of Jesus for a scam is horrible. Makes me wonder if he's against God and was determined to make God look bad, not doing it to be kind to the waitress. Tips for Jesus is more of a giving in the name of Jesus to show the love of Jesus to someone who could really use the blessing, it's not for Jesus or because they were told to by Jesus. Just a loving gesture because they love Jesus so much and want to share that love with others. Done correctly it's an awesome thing to do and blesses. The giver too. I only do it in cash anonymously, although I certainly can't afford $3000.

  • @the_expidition427

    @the_expidition427

    28 күн бұрын

    The credit card company needs to lose not him

  • @unitedstatian

    @unitedstatian

    28 күн бұрын

    @@the_expidition427 Why yes, blaming everyone else but the perpetrator is the smart thing to do! What a fool you are, the man who spent the money and immediately confirmed it was his intention and then charges it back is a criminal. That is called fraud and damages were made in the process, he is lucky he isn't in jail for a felony fraud charge since it was well over the misdemeanor amount.

  • @wildfire160

    @wildfire160

    28 күн бұрын

    @@the_expidition427 Why that makes no sense the card company has no blame in this...the`re not involved in any of it

  • @someguy6075

    @someguy6075

    27 күн бұрын

    @@wildfire160 Idk most of the issues lie with the customer but the card company seems negligent. It depends on their contract with the restaurant, maybe disputes are automatically granted and the vendor has to sue the customer. On top of estoppel and negligence, I can see restaurant and card vs customer for fraud and restaurant vs customer for defamation. A dispute isn't "I changed my mind" it's "the vendor is fraudulent or did not perform as agreed" and there is theoretically a process it goes through and possible appeals.

  • @bbraat
    @bbraat26 күн бұрын

    That 60 day period to contest the credit card charges is to prevent fraud, not to allow the credit card user to change their mind.

  • @russbell6418

    @russbell6418

    25 күн бұрын

    …not to allow the credit card user to commit fraud.

  • @philsowers

    @philsowers

    15 күн бұрын

    It's a new thing called "friendly fraud" card companies are soft on this type of chargeback, not that it makes it ok.

  • @user-mo6if9us2y
    @user-mo6if9us2y27 күн бұрын

    Kudos to the restaurant owner for not trying to claw the money back from the waitress.

  • @balsalmalberto8086

    @balsalmalberto8086

    25 күн бұрын

    But not kudos to tips being the only way they can make a living as a waitress.

  • @Bob-jf3bn

    @Bob-jf3bn

    24 күн бұрын

    It's illegal for owners to take a waiter/waitress tip.

  • @woodbutcherjohn

    @woodbutcherjohn

    24 күн бұрын

    @@balsalmalberto8086 The solution is to not be a waitress, there are other, better paying jobs out there.

  • @mlmallory2780

    @mlmallory2780

    24 күн бұрын

    @@balsalmalberto8086 Waitressing has helped many people to raise their families. If you don't want to tip, then don't go eat out at a restaurant.

  • @Trueflights

    @Trueflights

    24 күн бұрын

    @@mlmallory2780 except that waitressing in the rest of the world payus a livable wage to start with. Only in th eUS do they underpay waitstaff to the point that they require generous tips to get by.

  • @Epok317
    @Epok31728 күн бұрын

    Being generous on social media isn't actually generosity, its clout chasing.

  • @Noname-km3zx

    @Noname-km3zx

    28 күн бұрын

    Not technically true, a lot of people that are generous tend not do i subtly but openly, that is basically chasing clout. I have only truly been generous 2 times or so in my life. And example is when I slipped my friend 100 dollars in his jacket, since it degrading to ask for money when you're broke. Social media or not, it kind of the same.

  • @Epok317

    @Epok317

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Noname-km3zx that makes absolutely no sense.

  • @caseylandau9839

    @caseylandau9839

    28 күн бұрын

    I have to disagree with you on this. Yes, sure, a lot of these people are being generous for the "clout", however, given the number of ways that they can chase those views (with a disturbing number of those methods being to the detriment of those around them or are just outright stupid), they're instead choosing to help people, their communities and/or the world in general. Provided they're not going behind the scenes and trying to take back what they've given (like some we've seen) I see nothing wrong with it. In my book, it's a Win-Win-Win situation. They get their much desired clout, someone gets help that they might desperately need (which very well might be the difference between life and death) and we get a heart warming video to watch. And you can add in another Win if that video inspires someone else to go out and help someone.

  • @docbradleydc

    @docbradleydc

    28 күн бұрын

    It can be both, and I'm okay with that

  • @Epok317

    @Epok317

    28 күн бұрын

    @caseylandau9839 this is exactly why people like Logan Paul or any Kick streamer can get away with being so incorrigible. Someone will always try to make excuses for obvious scammers. It's like those people who say "it's illegal to lie on TV". And so people keep lying on TV, because there's a sucker born every minute.

  • @IaIaCthulhuFtagn
    @IaIaCthulhuFtagn28 күн бұрын

    They even went back and made sure he had meant the tip. This is definitely all on him.

  • @user-ey2xp2ge9y
    @user-ey2xp2ge9y27 күн бұрын

    This is credit card fraud, a crime, so he should be arrested immediately.

  • @WhiteWolf65

    @WhiteWolf65

    26 күн бұрын

    If customer has done this a few times, card company should revoke his credit card, pending a prepaid "security" amount.

  • @MarkDalbey-rh9lc

    @MarkDalbey-rh9lc

    26 күн бұрын

    Not really. I am not a lawyer, but I was in business and took credit cards. I did a 2,000 job for a guy, my cost in parts and subcontractors was around a 1,500. The guy paid with a credit card. I performed the work satisfactorily according to the work order at the price agreed on in the work order that he signed. I took credit cards then. About two weeks later he reversed the charges on me and in turn the credit card company reversed their payment causing me to bounce a number of checks at 30.00 each. To get my money I had to sue the guy for breach of contract in civil court. He signed the credit card slip and that is a contract. By signing he was agreeing to pay that amount. It cost me more to hire a lawyer to sue him than the 2,000 bill. I would have been better off financially to just eat the loss and let it go, but I was pissed. I won. I think I was in court about 30 minutes. It was pretty open and shut. Needless to say that I have never taken credit cards in any business again. For all new customers it is cash only. If you are somebody that I know I might take your check. I have probably lost business because of it, but I do not get pissed so much. If the charges get reversed that is breach of contract to me and a civil action, but he is not defrauding the credit card company so it is not criminal. If he does not pay the credit card company, that is still civil because he is not paying a debt that he owes. If he outright lies to the credit card company that is criminal and credit card fraud. At least that is the way that my lawyer explained it to me, that was 30 years ago. After 30 years my memory might be a little foggy. That guy signing the credit card slip for the tip is a contract. He is agreeing to pay 3,000 and there are no backsies. The restaurant might have a pretty good case for breach of contract. I am not a lawyer, but that is how I would go. The problem is the restaurant is out the 3,000 until it works through court. I think it took me about a year.

  • @WhiteWolf65

    @WhiteWolf65

    26 күн бұрын

    @@MarkDalbey-rh9lc Should have done the guy for the money AND legal costs.

  • @aaronreynolds1504

    @aaronreynolds1504

    26 күн бұрын

    @@MarkDalbey-rh9lc You could have got that guy for legal fees and the costs incurred for the bounced checks. His credit card company could have gone after him for fraud since he knew it was a legit debt and tried to reverse the charges.

  • @christine_lovelace

    @christine_lovelace

    26 күн бұрын

    Naw

  • @MikaylaSkillen
    @MikaylaSkillen27 күн бұрын

    That "so sue me" was probably just a throwaway line he wanted to dismiss them with 🤣

  • @balsalmalberto8086

    @balsalmalberto8086

    25 күн бұрын

    He's just regurgitating phrases he heard someone else say and copying social media trends. We got a mensa member on our hands.

  • @cheleshows

    @cheleshows

    25 күн бұрын

    SUPRISE!!

  • @ScottWaa
    @ScottWaa28 күн бұрын

    When he wrote the tip and signed his name, he agreed to pay that amount.

  • @B_Bodziak

    @B_Bodziak

    28 күн бұрын

    Especially since he was specifically asked before leaving if he meant to leave 3k and he said he did.

  • @Mouthwashh

    @Mouthwashh

    28 күн бұрын

    Oh really? Thanks for explaining how paying a restaurant bill works, really insightful commentary. We can all rest easy now that you’ve explained the situation.

  • @ScottWaa

    @ScottWaa

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Mouthwashh pretty basic. The writing and signature was clearly printed. Seems like millions of people understand, yet you don't?

  • @doom4067

    @doom4067

    28 күн бұрын

    He agreed to pay the amount that he wrote in the total line, not in the tip line. No one is talking about that amount.

  • @Heal_Hound

    @Heal_Hound

    28 күн бұрын

    Are you allowed to fleece the disabled? We can't drive with our phones. Why should this situation be any different? They should have declined the tip. Easy money, never is.

  • @steventogami898
    @steventogami89828 күн бұрын

    Hope the restaurant prevails, and the judge adds on lawyer fees, punitive damages.

  • @m4rvinmartian

    @m4rvinmartian

    28 күн бұрын

    *Why do you hope the restaurant prevails?* *_How bout this... I hope whomever you're expecting an inheritance from, goes on a generous spending spree of tips like this person did and spends all of your inheritance, and loses their house because they don't have money for the property tax._* NOW do you feel differently?

  • @zombiecheney4583

    @zombiecheney4583

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@m4rvinmartian no

  • @hotpuppy1

    @hotpuppy1

    28 күн бұрын

    @@m4rvinmartian TOTALLY different case here.

  • @deniselittle5558

    @deniselittle5558

    28 күн бұрын

    @@m4rvinmartian could you make a dumber comment?

  • @uzlonewolf

    @uzlonewolf

    28 күн бұрын

    @@m4rvinmartian And how is that the restaurant's fault? This guy cost the restaurant $3k. He needs to pay his bill.

  • @Harold_Callahan
    @Harold_Callahan27 күн бұрын

    The customer should be forced to pay 6k just to punish him for being another stupid social media zombie.

  • @turtleinashirt
    @turtleinashirt28 күн бұрын

    As a Christian myself, it’s always a real kick in the jewels when someone does something idiotic and brings Jesus into as a co-conspirator.

  • @Ducky69247

    @Ducky69247

    27 күн бұрын

    Yup, he's a true xtian by virtue *and* behavior

  • @glendamcgee1779

    @glendamcgee1779

    27 күн бұрын

    Wow, you nailed it, Turtle.

  • @Mewse1203

    @Mewse1203

    27 күн бұрын

    I'm an atheist and even I know Jesus wouldn't be happy with this guy. Being "generous" only for the social media clout is the opposite of the teachings. He's also a hypocrite.

  • @Ducky69247

    @Ducky69247

    27 күн бұрын

    @@Mewse1203 not the character from the book, god forbid, right? That character is pretty far removed from contemporary xtians anyway.

  • @Mewse1203

    @Mewse1203

    27 күн бұрын

    @Ducky69247 I mean, the whole thing is inconsistent, and theres no way to possibly remember word for word what a dude said for 30+ years before writing it down, but Matthew 6 basically has Jesus saying, "If you're going to give to charity, be quiet about it. Only hypocrites make noise about their charity."

  • @BlackCat_2
    @BlackCat_228 күн бұрын

    Too many dishonest people out there with no honor. 😢 I had this guy recommended to me decades ago to build my front porch. He showed up and was this short elderly hispanic man and his 3 sons. We had no written contract. He and his sons built a beautiful porch for me that is just what I wanted. It's also still standing over 2 decades later. I paid him what he asked plus a little bonus since they did such a perfect job. He's been deceased for a while now but I still think of him often when I am enjoying the porch. Heidi

  • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n

    @BariumCobaltNitrog3n

    27 күн бұрын

    Here's a cookie for not being a jerk. 🍪

  • @chrisragone8785

    @chrisragone8785

    26 күн бұрын

    @@BariumCobaltNitrog3nNo cookie for you!

  • @mickvonbornemann3824

    @mickvonbornemann3824

    26 күн бұрын

    You’re a lucky many getting to deal with honourable workers, I hope you recommended them to others

  • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n

    @BariumCobaltNitrog3n

    26 күн бұрын

    @@chrisragone8785 what's your problem?

  • @Dbb27

    @Dbb27

    25 күн бұрын

    @@BariumCobaltNitrog3n some people wake up and wonder, hmmm, who can I insult today?

  • @Tanquiamco
    @Tanquiamco28 күн бұрын

    The word "Asshole " comes to mind.

  • @the_expidition427

    @the_expidition427

    28 күн бұрын

    The which slipped could have hit you, except the leafblower blew you into it

  • @OfSoulAndSin

    @OfSoulAndSin

    25 күн бұрын

    @@the_expidition427 Are you ok? Have you sought medical attention?!?!?

  • @JosePerez1973
    @JosePerez197327 күн бұрын

    If he actually made that promise he should be forced to pay it.

  • @BluntlyRolling
    @BluntlyRolling26 күн бұрын

    My cousin does this kind of tipping. When I observed her doing this "mission work," it looked more like an attempt to garner personal attention than a true blessing for others. I am happy to hear this hypocrite is being sued for his fraud.

  • @FreeAmerican-mm2my

    @FreeAmerican-mm2my

    25 күн бұрын

    Your cousin is crazy. Most people in our area are supportive of the "No Tip for The Devil" mission work.

  • @cherylfauth9543

    @cherylfauth9543

    24 күн бұрын

    You shouldn't judge her generosity.

  • @lindabuck2777

    @lindabuck2777

    19 күн бұрын

    Did she waitress or bartend?

  • @helpis0ntheway

    @helpis0ntheway

    18 күн бұрын

    @@FreeAmerican-mm2my 😂🤣

  • @BrianBorawski
    @BrianBorawski28 күн бұрын

    The gentleman wrote the check or paid on credit with no intent to pay, isn't that fraud?

  • @dianayount2122

    @dianayount2122

    28 күн бұрын

    credit card

  • @THEECYBERMACKIN

    @THEECYBERMACKIN

    28 күн бұрын

    No, probably was drunk plus anyone can write a tip in

  • @OptimiSkeptic

    @OptimiSkeptic

    28 күн бұрын

    I would assume that he meant it when he did it, then changed his mind. To me, that's a much worse person than a purposeful fraudster. A competent person who will make a commitment that evaporates when their mood changes is weak of constitution and character, a dishonorable person of the most despicable sort.

  • @kingtrode

    @kingtrode

    28 күн бұрын

    It’s fraud in my opinion

  • @PositiveOnly-dm3rx

    @PositiveOnly-dm3rx

    28 күн бұрын

    Thinking its legit is the real crazy part. If someone pays that much, they are jumping off a cliff when they leave. There's no other reason.

  • @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38
    @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx3828 күн бұрын

    I wonder if the guy made a social media post bragging about his -$5,000- $3,000 tip. I think that would play well in court.

  • @MachoRaton

    @MachoRaton

    28 күн бұрын

    $3,000

  • @JamesTK

    @JamesTK

    28 күн бұрын

    @@MachoRaton$10000 I didn’t watch the video but let’s inflate the number

  • @guidopenguin

    @guidopenguin

    27 күн бұрын

    If the place was smart, they'd go find any social media from this guy bragging about leaving the $3k tip and use it as evidence on his "intent"

  • @Presserp
    @Presserp20 күн бұрын

    If they hadn't spoken to him, he could of argued it was supposed to be $300, $30 or $3 and not $3000. But because they spoke with him, he can't argue that anymore.

  • @Rational_thinker_212
    @Rational_thinker_21225 күн бұрын

    I hope that one day we will look back on this time in history with disgust and wonder how absolute self-centered, narcissism, and the whiney "me" culture was the dominate behavior.

  • @ScramblerUSA
    @ScramblerUSA28 күн бұрын

    That's the bad side of social media. I'm pretty sure he made pictures or videos of him leaving a $3000 tip, posted it, gathered a ton of likes, but it was done solely for the likes. Therefore, he reversed the transaction and enjoyed his likes. The lengths people are willing to go for those likes and hype are insane.

  • @satoau1

    @satoau1

    27 күн бұрын

    sure but i'm pretty sure this guy would still be a douche doing the same kinds of thing in a world without social media.

  • @justme-dm7sb

    @justme-dm7sb

    27 күн бұрын

    For "likes"? I can't imagine that. I intentionally stayed out of social media. Back when AOL was the only thing going and My Space wasn't even born yet I saw things happen to people that predicted some of the things I hear about today. I never thought it would get as bad as it has though. For "likes" is insane. Some people truly are a waste of space, air and food.

  • @satoau1

    @satoau1

    26 күн бұрын

    @@justme-dm7sb is it the "likes" themselves or an addiction to the biological process brought on by "likes"?

  • @LilyoftheValeyrising

    @LilyoftheValeyrising

    26 күн бұрын

    They would never know he disputed the charge and he would carry on with his fake generosity.

  • @Trueflights

    @Trueflights

    24 күн бұрын

    I hope this is the case as that would mean there is evidence of him willingly giving the tip on his social media which can be used against him in court.

  • @clbcl5
    @clbcl528 күн бұрын

    His wife saw the charge. She told him to go get the money from this jesus guy.

  • @CHMichael

    @CHMichael

    28 күн бұрын

    You hit the nail

  • @ariochiv

    @ariochiv

    28 күн бұрын

    Giving a $3K tgip sounds more like something a lonely single man would do. 😁

  • @ThatOpalGuy

    @ThatOpalGuy

    28 күн бұрын

    @@ariochiv or, a kind and generous man

  • @P_RO_

    @P_RO_

    28 күн бұрын

    I hear that guy was never good with money.

  • @E.Carrillo

    @E.Carrillo

    28 күн бұрын

    No, I think this guy was planning a Tic Tok video, but it went wrong.

  • @gscurd75
    @gscurd7527 күн бұрын

    I seriously hope the dude has to pay the $3k, plus court costs, plus lawyer fees, plus emotional damages.

  • @FrankYammy

    @FrankYammy

    27 күн бұрын

    Emotional damages?

  • @gscurd75

    @gscurd75

    27 күн бұрын

    @FrankYammy It wouldn't be tons but more than the amount if he just did nothing. The waitress who got the tip would have made plans for that money once he confirmed it was legit. Say they were in debt roughly $3k and the weight of that had suddenly been lifted. Then that suddenly ends. That counts as emotional damage.

  • @williamhaynes7089

    @williamhaynes7089

    27 күн бұрын

    Emotional damages? the lasy got the money... the employer is the one thats out right now

  • @FrankYammy

    @FrankYammy

    27 күн бұрын

    @@gscurd75 the waitress got the money though, its the restaurant that lost $3,000

  • @verucasalt9182

    @verucasalt9182

    25 күн бұрын

    Protect the owner if the restaurant. He is the one with all the cost of running a business in today’s economy !

  • @GeeTrieste
    @GeeTrieste25 күн бұрын

    Customer wasn't sued over huge tip. Customer was sued for stealing back the huge tip.

  • @Nickmacpaddywhack
    @Nickmacpaddywhack28 күн бұрын

    If you ask me, I'd say this man is guilty of theft. He gave a gift and then stole it back.

  • @penitent2401

    @penitent2401

    27 күн бұрын

    Technically, it's called fraud.

  • @simontmn

    @simontmn

    19 күн бұрын

    @@penitent2401 It may or may not be fraud depending on what the law says about reversal of charges on a credit card ex gratia payment, eg is it an absolute right or is there a good faith requirement.

  • @tidasium1785
    @tidasium178528 күн бұрын

    My opinion that was very dishonest and cowardly of the guy. He was trying to be a big shot. He knew he wasn't. Like some of the other poster said that's fraud. I myself have been known to leave decent tips. The biggest one was $250. I may have been drunk at the time but it is what it is. You make a promissory to pay and signing a tip. Is your promissory, your signature, your word to pay that much to that person. Kind of cowardly bro

  • @B_Bodziak

    @B_Bodziak

    28 күн бұрын

    Especially since he was specifically asked if he knew and intended to tip 3k

  • @davidb4090

    @davidb4090

    28 күн бұрын

    @@B_Bodziak I was about to say the exact same thing.

  • @Glass_Desert

    @Glass_Desert

    28 күн бұрын

    You got drunk and someone had a good day because of it. Can't fault you for that.

  • @additudeobx

    @additudeobx

    28 күн бұрын

    I've had people dispute a $13 cheesesteak sandwich 20 days after they ate it.

  • @carlyellison8498

    @carlyellison8498

    28 күн бұрын

    I change my mind all the time. It's my prerogative.

  • @mikatu
    @mikatu24 күн бұрын

    To me that is clearly credit card fraud! He wanted to give that amount, but then decided to change his mind. It was no mistake, therefore the sale was final. He had no arguments to ask for a refund.

  • @HorrorFreak68
    @HorrorFreak6819 күн бұрын

    GOOD!!! Glad to hear that the restaurant is standing behind their employee.

  • @electricpaper269
    @electricpaper26928 күн бұрын

    Sounds like an irrevocable gift

  • @sunchips5

    @sunchips5

    28 күн бұрын

    Right, regarding a gift. Wrong, regarding its revocability. The gift was successfully revoked and therefore incomplete. Incomplete gifts are judicially unenforceable.

  • @brentfarvors192

    @brentfarvors192

    28 күн бұрын

    Needs to be a process where the store can call the CC company to verify; Therby waiving any disputes...

  • @yogibro6442

    @yogibro6442

    28 күн бұрын

    Tips out to be seen as payment for services rendered, not a gift. I don't work for tips myself, but I tip extra because of good service, not as a gift. If my coffee cup never gets empty and they are nice, I tip extra for the extra effort.

  • @sunchips5

    @sunchips5

    28 күн бұрын

    @yogibro6442 The tip was so extraordinary, that it appears to be a gift and not for services rendered. I doubt the plaintiff will win this lawsuit and should not win this lawsuit in my humble opinion.

  • @GamingArcane

    @GamingArcane

    28 күн бұрын

    @@sunchips5 If they lose, then Jesus boy gonna be banned from every local restaurant.

  • @NickBush24
    @NickBush2428 күн бұрын

    Credit Card Fraud for Jesus

  • @moonshoes11

    @moonshoes11

    28 күн бұрын

    Anything and everything “for Jesus” seems to be fraud.

  • @SonsOfLorgar

    @SonsOfLorgar

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@moonshoes11 yup, because religions are nothing more than protection money extortion fraud crime syndicates.

  • @E.Carrillo

    @E.Carrillo

    28 күн бұрын

    Not for Jesus, just fraud!

  • @moonshoes11

    @moonshoes11

    28 күн бұрын

    @@NickBush24 It seems anything for “Jesus” is fraud.

  • @KenLieck

    @KenLieck

    28 күн бұрын

    @@E.Carrillo He did in Jesus' name. Nobody's saying that Jesus was complicit in the act! In fact, it would just be one in a long string of illegal/immortal actions performed by people falsely claiming to have Jesus' approval.

  • @roboticmonkeygaming2398
    @roboticmonkeygaming239824 күн бұрын

    Just glad they aren't suing BECAUSE of the tip.

  • @louisrauzi3872
    @louisrauzi387228 күн бұрын

    So appreciate no ads every min. Classy mr Lehto

  • @Foolish188
    @Foolish18828 күн бұрын

    When I worked in a high end Mom and Pop retail store we had a credit card payment for $5k disputed. The owners had already paid the artist. The credit card company wouldn't let the owners contact the customer to find out what the problem was. Turns out that it was a joint husband and wife credit card, and the wife had bought a birthday present for her husband, a couple of months before his birthday. And he disputed it without talking to his wife.

  • @tmduke55221

    @tmduke55221

    28 күн бұрын

    What happened you can’t leave us hanging like that.

  • @B_Bodziak

    @B_Bodziak

    28 күн бұрын

    Wow. What happened?

  • @AzraelThanatos

    @AzraelThanatos

    28 күн бұрын

    @@B_Bodziak Considering the information there, it's probably solved. It is, also, kind of understandable there, a 5k charge on my card that I didn't recognize, especially if the wife doesn't realize he's doing that and isn't talking about the purchase.

  • @uzlonewolf

    @uzlonewolf

    28 күн бұрын

    @@B_Bodziak Having dealt with credit card companies before, the retail store is out the $5k.

  • @Poppagee69

    @Poppagee69

    28 күн бұрын

    Figured she would service his other tip in return as a thankyou that backfired on him .

  • @TSteffi
    @TSteffi28 күн бұрын

    Hit the keyboard with my elbow and make a lawsuit fall out of my Computer😂

  • @JamesQMurphy

    @JamesQMurphy

    28 күн бұрын

    That's quite a flex 💪😂

  • @qualicumwilson5168

    @qualicumwilson5168

    28 күн бұрын

    AKA "thin elbow syndrome"

  • @kevinmach730

    @kevinmach730

    27 күн бұрын

    @@JamesQMurphy Agreed, a little too much of a flex. I've found the opposite to be true-lawyers try to scare people and threaten to sue them when they have zero case. They're fishing for settlement.

  • @albertk5572
    @albertk557225 күн бұрын

    Such a Relevant content! As there are many who try to look good both in cyber space and real life, Sadly they’ve forgotten their Ten Commandments and use legal or unethical loopholes to break their promise and get a kick out of feeling smarter than their victims! Thank you ❤

  • @Lee.Willcox
    @Lee.Willcox26 күн бұрын

    I am in England. I was working away and alone. I went for a meal at a restaurant and left a cash tip. I paid by card for me meal. Now this was 30 years ago and I only had a £5 note in my wallet so I left it for the server. She saw it, went mental and shouted "What do you want from me, I am not going to sleep with you". I swear this is 100% true. My dinner bill was £30.00 so @ 10% I should have only left her £3.00. I left and never went back. Way before phones with cameras and social media of any modern sense. I was humiliated in public because I didn't have the correct change for a tip. I will never forget it.

  • @Dbb27

    @Dbb27

    25 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately one encounters mental health problems everywhere we go. Hope at least the meal was good!

  • @anthonyg4671

    @anthonyg4671

    25 күн бұрын

    You’re not required to leave a tip in England, how did you come up with 10% 🤔

  • @ConkerTS

    @ConkerTS

    24 күн бұрын

    Tipping is rare in British restaurants, and not at all expected. And even thirty years ago, five pounds wasn't much money, so I can only assume that the waitress was either joking (though if this was the case then I am sure you would have noticed) or perhaps she was really flustered (and maybe thought that you were being sarcastic) and wasn't thinking straight. It was really strange, anyway.

  • @catherines.169

    @catherines.169

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@anthonyg4671 my understanding (american who spent 3 months in England a decade ago) that 10% is the standard for service tips in a restaurant

  • @anthonyg4671

    @anthonyg4671

    24 күн бұрын

    @@catherines.169 but it’s not a requirement so I wonder where the 10% came from , I wasn’t thinking lee was making it up .

  • @StarATL
    @StarATL28 күн бұрын

    Also, employers are required to pay the government employer SS on customer tips as if it was regular pay.

  • @whereisyourhumanity7557

    @whereisyourhumanity7557

    27 күн бұрын

    That sucks. The gov't sticks it's hand in every pocket.

  • @hoolihanohoolihan1011

    @hoolihanohoolihan1011

    27 күн бұрын

    This has nothing to do with any of it, but congrats on trying to sound smart

  • @StarATL

    @StarATL

    27 күн бұрын

    @@hoolihanohoolihan1011 it’s a part of the equation. I’m having to pay taxes on those cash tips that the staff reports or receives via credit card. A 3000 tip would also cost me not only the credit card charge, but also an additional 6.2%, or close to $200. Do your homework before commenting.

  • @Batmann_
    @Batmann_28 күн бұрын

    "go ahead and sue me" is what people say when they think that either, the other person actually won't, and/or that the other person does not have sufficient grounds to win.

  • @blairhoughton7918

    @blairhoughton7918

    27 күн бұрын

    You don't say "sue me" when you're doing the right thing.

  • @vanlifefpv6340
    @vanlifefpv634027 күн бұрын

    I once had a tip changed to a fraudulent tip by the restaurant. They added one zero to my $5 tip to change it to $50 and I was saved because I took a photo of the receipt before I left. My credit card would have denied my fraud claim if it were not for the photo I took.

  • @hoolihanohoolihan1011

    @hoolihanohoolihan1011

    27 күн бұрын

    No they wouldn't, I wish that was true as a business owner but we are basically powerless against disputes in America

  • @justinwhite2725

    @justinwhite2725

    26 күн бұрын

    This is why in Canada your card never leaves your possession. It is highly, highly unusual for a server to take your card to the till to run it. Instead they bring out a little pad where they swipe it, you confirm the amount, then enter your PIN. I'm told they don't do this in the US.

  • @russellmania5349

    @russellmania5349

    25 күн бұрын

    @@hoolihanohoolihan1011 From my understanding they usually always side with the buyer. I know this because I have sold things on Ebay before and Ebay will always side with the buyer over the seller in a dispute even if the buyer has proof that the package was sent with tracking number.

  • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826

    @hauntedshadowslegacy2826

    24 күн бұрын

    @@justinwhite2725 Some places in the US have started doing it that way. Some even have a purpose-built 'tablet' of sorts that stays at the table so you can order dessert and pay without having to wait for someone to come over with the check. I'm with ya, it should be that way at every restaurant.

  • @suzanneaubin7599

    @suzanneaubin7599

    24 күн бұрын

    @@justinwhite2725it wasn’t all that long ago I’d give my card to start a tab, or leave my card in the folder. People over react to the smallest changes life. When the debit cards first came out, people were scared to use them in retail stores thinking we could see everything in their account 😂

  • @Kurgosh1
    @Kurgosh128 күн бұрын

    Sounds like they're not suing him over leaving a huge tip. They're suing him over exploiting his credit card company to steal thousands of dollars from them.

  • @Civ5forlife-td7hy

    @Civ5forlife-td7hy

    27 күн бұрын

    but its not money from them. Its money from the waitress

  • @beepbop6697

    @beepbop6697

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@Civ5forlife-td7hythe restaurant already gave the waitress the money he tipped, and now the guy is using the cc card company to try to reverse the charge back from the restaurant.

  • @guest6423

    @guest6423

    27 күн бұрын

    @@Civ5forlife-td7hy It depends on the policy. Many/most establishments pool tips and divide among the staff.

  • @krabysniper

    @krabysniper

    27 күн бұрын

    The "tip" was left for one individual, there was no actual cash transacted, just the plastic card, that plastic card is a LEGALLY BINDING IOU when used. It is the individual saying "I will pay this debt, but the credit card company is going to give you the money qnd then I will eventually pay them back. Unless he DID NOT sign the receipt and did not write $3,000 as the tip amount, he is S O L. This person's name and face need to be plastered all over the net, so EVERYONE can see who this piece of 💩 is that would dare mislead and lie to people who served him his food. Hopefully she tells every restraint in town and shares his picture so they can demand CASH ONLY from him. Credit cards CAN BE REFUSED.

  • @Kurgosh1

    @Kurgosh1

    27 күн бұрын

    @@Civ5forlife-td7hy The waitress doesn't process credit cards personally. The business does, then (if they're not stealing wages) they pay out the tips to the servers. She has the money. Then the thief charges back. The bank doesn't magically go track down the waitress and take the money from her, they take it back from the business that processed the charge.

  • @rjtumble
    @rjtumble28 күн бұрын

    Something tells me the bill came in, the wife saw it and said (less kindly) “WTF did you do?, we’re not paying that”, he then “decided” to dispute the charge.

  • @michaelwilkening8542

    @michaelwilkening8542

    28 күн бұрын

    His wife probably thought the payment was for the waitress servicing his "tip".

  • @rjtumble

    @rjtumble

    28 күн бұрын

    @@michaelwilkening8542 Ha! Probably right -

  • @silverhammer7779

    @silverhammer7779

    28 күн бұрын

    Most likely scenario.

  • @user-ne7zi3ym3b

    @user-ne7zi3ym3b

    24 күн бұрын

    I agree, or after he made the transaction, he realized that he couldn't afford it, therefore, he disputed it.

  • @tech4life884
    @tech4life88426 күн бұрын

    This restaurant should sue after the customer canceled the tip after leaving. It's criminal.

  • @FuzzyWalrus123

    @FuzzyWalrus123

    22 күн бұрын

    No it isn't.

  • @Psyrecx
    @Psyrecx27 күн бұрын

    *Last time I checked, committing fraud was a crime...*

  • @CJ-ty8sv

    @CJ-ty8sv

    25 күн бұрын

    Honestly, "fraud" in regards to this case would be EXTEREMLY HARD if not impossible to prove. Here all he has to argue is that he was intending to be "generous" by leaving a $30.00 tip on a $13.00 bill and he was distracted or something and accidently put what appears to be a comma after then 3 rather than a point after the 1st zero. Unless you can go back in time and read minds, there is no way to disprove that, should it be his argument. This assumes that he wrote $3,000 and not $3,000.00 which honestly, I've seen many people do, omit the zero's that would be after the point and not put the point.

  • @chrlpolk

    @chrlpolk

    23 күн бұрын

    @CJ-ty8sv Recently, I had a $77 bill and I tipped $33 to make it an even $100. Wrote “$100.00” as the total. I obviously meant $23. Credit card dropped for $110. They don’t pay attention to the total when punching it in. Could be he wrote “3000” and the decimal was light or missing, they asked him, “Did you really want to leave such a large tip?” And he responded, “Yeah, for J-man!” Thinking he was tipping $30. We need to see the signed receipt because everything else is conjecture.

  • @calebfielding6352
    @calebfielding635228 күн бұрын

    This guy sounds like a troll. Just someone who likes to stir up trouble, the bigger the better. Hope he gets sued to oblivian.

  • @Michaeljack81sk

    @Michaeljack81sk

    28 күн бұрын

    I would not be remotely surprised if he turns out to be a Social Media "Prankster"

  • @jackabsolute5525

    @jackabsolute5525

    28 күн бұрын

    For 3000? Nah, the amount is too small. It has more of a chance that it goes to and wins in small claims.

  • @Fifth_Entertainment
    @Fifth_Entertainment28 күн бұрын

    The restaurant is also out processing fee that is usually 2-3%.

  • @fredfinger7092

    @fredfinger7092

    28 күн бұрын

    Interesting point that I, for one, had not thought about...

  • @athomasw1

    @athomasw1

    28 күн бұрын

    No, when a charge is reversed, so is the processing fee.

  • @Fifth_Entertainment

    @Fifth_Entertainment

    28 күн бұрын

    @athomasw1 In event of charge back, vendor is charged anywhere from $20-$100 by merchant services/credit card issuer. And they don't get the original processing fee back. Source: happen to my business.

  • @juliesilvaggio804

    @juliesilvaggio804

    24 күн бұрын

    @@athomasw1I am sure the restaurant give the waitress the full $3,000 without deducting the fees.

  • @davemartinez5840
    @davemartinez584024 күн бұрын

    There are no coincidences, youre awareness gets expanded

  • @tanzanite8908
    @tanzanite890821 күн бұрын

    The fact that the restaurant contacted the customer, got written confirmation that this was his intent that was witnessed. Dude should lose the lawsuit. Wait, dude waited until almost the full 60 days before he challenged the charge?

  • @Foolish188
    @Foolish18828 күн бұрын

    Waiting for this one, ever since I saw this headline.

  • @user-km3pk1pu7h

    @user-km3pk1pu7h

    28 күн бұрын

    Why the hell aren't we using that Promisary Ostople(?) to sue politician?

  • @Denvermorgan2000
    @Denvermorgan200028 күн бұрын

    I’m glad they didn’t take it from the waitress.😊

  • @paulaswaim8434
    @paulaswaim843426 күн бұрын

    Super interesting case. Thanks for explaining it Steve.

  • @Figgy20000
    @Figgy2000027 күн бұрын

    The Restaraunt staff did all their due diligence to confirm this guy wasn't drunk, high out of his mind, or mentally ill. He absolutely should pay it and I hope the trail errs in their favor.

  • @user-ne7zi3ym3b

    @user-ne7zi3ym3b

    24 күн бұрын

    I hope the trial errs in their favor, too.

  • @AHersheyHere
    @AHersheyHere28 күн бұрын

    'Tips for Jesus' makes me think he was told by his tax preparer that he couldn't include this 3k in his itemized deductions for tithing, which is deductible.

  • @mikam8801

    @mikam8801

    28 күн бұрын

    Spend $2100 to save $900. How does that make sense? (Assuming 30% bracket)

  • @seneca983

    @seneca983

    28 күн бұрын

    @@mikam8801 It can make sense if he's still at least somewhat generous and/or enjoys likes he might get if he posts about this on social media, but he isn't so generous that he would be willing to pay a sum that large 100% out of his own pocket (possibly after some reflection).

  • @falxonPSN

    @falxonPSN

    27 күн бұрын

    ​​@@mikam8801think about the subject matter. The guy in the story is probably not a person that thinks rationally.

  • @darrennew8211
    @darrennew821128 күн бұрын

    This seems like the least disputable charge ever. Reg E only lets you dispute charges you didn't authorize.

  • @bcubed72

    @bcubed72

    28 күн бұрын

    Who's Reggie?

  • @darrennew8211

    @darrennew8211

    28 күн бұрын

    @@bcubed72 Regulation E is the federal laws that regulate how credit cards can work.

  • @PositiveOnly-dm3rx

    @PositiveOnly-dm3rx

    28 күн бұрын

    Lol, born yesterday huh? Go to ANY pay site like twitch and see that this happens a thousand times a day.

  • @solandri69

    @solandri69

    28 күн бұрын

    He was probably hoping to take advantage of the way tips are added to credit card charges. They give him a bill for $13, and he hands them his credit card. They run the credit card for $13, print a receipt, and hand it back to him. He writes $3000 as a tip and a total of $3013, and leaves. The restaurant then takes the receipt, reads how much tip he added, and modifies the credit card charge (similar to issuing a refund) from $13 to $3013. If he calls his credit card and disputes the charge, he can claim he didn't leave a tip. And the restaurant staff must have written in the $3k tip themselves. It's plausible because tips are added to the bill after the customer has left. So if he'd left those blank, the restaurant could have written in $3k as the tip and add "30" in front of the 13 for the total. And he can claim the restaurant is lying when they said they confirmed with him multiple times that he meant to tip $3k. This is why if you leave a tip, it's important to write a $ sign before the numbers. And kudos to the restaurant for fronting the $3k shortfall while they sue, instead of making the waitress give it back.

  • @jeaniebird999

    @jeaniebird999

    28 күн бұрын

    My aunt was scammed and her CC company told her it was her tough luck because she gave it to them willingly.

  • @MrNitestorm1
    @MrNitestorm125 күн бұрын

    Anyone that feels the need to document a good deed, seriously needs mental help

  • @plenumshamu4037
    @plenumshamu403726 күн бұрын

    A tipping point about the practice of tipping, truly.

  • @kitsuneneko2567
    @kitsuneneko256728 күн бұрын

    How much you wanna bet his wife told him to take it back or else...

  • @lavenderkisses9461

    @lavenderkisses9461

    27 күн бұрын

    Let’s not drag her into this without knowing more. He sounds like a jerk on his own. Tipping generously based on social media 🙄🙄

  • @user-nz2rv5vs1o
    @user-nz2rv5vs1o28 күн бұрын

    All tips should be paid in cash

  • @pcspecialistpdx

    @pcspecialistpdx

    26 күн бұрын

    they shouldn't even be tips, tips are taxable and the god most people call government doesn't deserve any of it. Give gifts, not tips.

  • @user-ne7zi3ym3b

    @user-ne7zi3ym3b

    24 күн бұрын

    A nails shop I go to tell the customers that they prefer cash tips. So, I comply with cash tips.

  • @johnme7049
    @johnme704927 күн бұрын

    May he absolutely get the attention he 'Deserves'

  • @kain9407
    @kain940723 күн бұрын

    The credit card company should not have approved the dispute after contacting the restaurant.

  • @ronw59
    @ronw5928 күн бұрын

    I seldom pay eatery bills with plastic, but if & when I do, I always pay the tips in cash.

  • @fredfinger7092

    @fredfinger7092

    28 күн бұрын

    I'm not saying that is a bad idea. But I am saying, I never have any cash on me these days.

  • @notdoingsogood2024

    @notdoingsogood2024

    28 күн бұрын

    As a former server, it is the way. Thanks ronw59 for tipping properly.

  • @leehanson1416

    @leehanson1416

    28 күн бұрын

    @@fredfinger7092 You really have no reason to believe that the server will get the whole tip, or any part of it. There's also a fee for processing the charge, and it's a percentage that the server doesn't get, yet the amount of the tip is reported income.

  • @ronw59

    @ronw59

    28 күн бұрын

    @@notdoingsogood2024 If the server wants to split the tip with other staff, kitchen, busboys, etc., it's their business. But I don't want a paper trail that could come back to bite the server or that management feels they are entitled to a share of.

  • @normbograham

    @normbograham

    28 күн бұрын

    I did this always, until a pizza place added a tip after the fact, then I stopped. $30 for two slices of pizza, was a bit off. I didnt bother to dispute, I just never went back.

  • @RyshusMojo1
    @RyshusMojo128 күн бұрын

    "Hey, I'm through painting. By the way, that's a Mercedes, not a Porch." A few will know...

  • @carwashjared

    @carwashjared

    28 күн бұрын

    😂😂

  • @stephenharper6638

    @stephenharper6638

    28 күн бұрын

    hahaha, I thought I was the only one

  • @jimmyzhao2673

    @jimmyzhao2673

    28 күн бұрын

    big ooops.

  • @user-helloworld308
    @user-helloworld30819 күн бұрын

    I was dying laughing when you said, "you realize I can hit a keyboad with my elbow and have a lawsuit fall out of my computer..." 😂

  • @mikezupancic2182
    @mikezupancic218227 күн бұрын

    I can get a lawsuit to fall out of my computer. Best Lehto line to date. 😂

  • @katnoto8993
    @katnoto899328 күн бұрын

    If someone left a $3k tip in my restaurant, for anything less than a wedding reception, id refuse it. This is exactly why. Anything more than a hundred or two (which is already very generous and would still be very appreciated) is either doing it for the wrong reasond or possobly not in the right mind. Unless your diner is dropping $3k on meals and drinks, a $13 meal with a $3k tip is just blinding red flags

  • @Gamesso1slO0l

    @Gamesso1slO0l

    28 күн бұрын

    depends, if the person walks out to a very expensive car, it known to be wealthy etc, then 3k may be on the up and up

  • @arribaficationwineho32

    @arribaficationwineho32

    28 күн бұрын

    Take it and allow the owner to work it out. Be ready to return most of it if thst is how it plays out

  • @voluntarism335

    @voluntarism335

    28 күн бұрын

    Well it depends on how rich the person is leaving the tip, if it's Bill Gates, or Taylor Swift or some other billionaire then $3k is nothing to them and the tip amount is believable

  • @othellewis8931

    @othellewis8931

    28 күн бұрын

    I think there might be other issues here as well. The waitress must pay taxes on the 3000.00 because the tip is electronic and traceable. The restaurant has to report that on the waitresses w2s. It will be worse if the restaurant is one where they only pay so much an hour and you make the rest up in tips.

  • @blairhoughton7918

    @blairhoughton7918

    27 күн бұрын

    Which is why the manager discussed it with him.

  • @dereksmith1803
    @dereksmith180328 күн бұрын

    Not only is the restaurant out the $3k that they paid to the waitress, but since it was wages/tips earned, they also are out the income taxes that they had to pay on that large amount. So, it actually cost them substantially more than the $3k and they should be suing for that as well.

  • @blairhoughton7918

    @blairhoughton7918

    27 күн бұрын

    They can get the money back from the waitress and adjust the tax payment. But they won't have to. They're going to win this one easy.

  • @azthekid5175
    @azthekid517528 күн бұрын

    Scranton? Was it Joe? 🤭🤪😵‍💫🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Thatonedude917
    @Thatonedude91726 күн бұрын

    It's mad to me that they can just rip the funds from your bank account with a chargeback, and that isn't theft

  • @GWNorth-db8vn
    @GWNorth-db8vn28 күн бұрын

    Back in the early days of credit cards, you had to phone and get approval from the company for any transaction over 50 bucks. They gave you a confirmation number and it was their problem from there.

  • @Mouserjan0222
    @Mouserjan022228 күн бұрын

    if they ran out and asked him if this was what he wanted to do and he said yes then he's SOL not a mistake Jesus would never take back a tip....

  • @KenLieck

    @KenLieck

    28 күн бұрын

    That's what's sad -- they did their due diligence to preclude this result from coming about, yet they still got the poop end of the stick. The guy must think "SOL" shines out of his butt!

  • @user-fp1eh7ze1e

    @user-fp1eh7ze1e

    28 күн бұрын

    It might come down to if the restaurant can prove that he authorized & confirmed the charge .

  • @user-km3pk1pu7h

    @user-km3pk1pu7h

    28 күн бұрын

    And you're taking their word that they actually did it?

  • @Mouserjan0222

    @Mouserjan0222

    28 күн бұрын

    @@KenLieck Ok maybe he meant $30.00 and the comma was in the wrong space he could argue that MAYBE.......

  • @KenLieck

    @KenLieck

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Mouserjan0222 That was my first thought before the story continued to state that they verified his intent etc.

  • @bbraat
    @bbraat26 күн бұрын

    From the title of the video I felt angry at the restaurant but from the story I felt it toward the customer.

  • @fightfan7993
    @fightfan799327 күн бұрын

    You are so interesting in the way you discribe your cases

  • @AAAA-o7v
    @AAAA-o7v28 күн бұрын

    Ben standing on end at right side of bookcase in front of New York license plate

  • @blairhoughton7918

    @blairhoughton7918

    27 күн бұрын

    Is that a thing? Like the stuffed animal at Trader Joe's?

  • @uplinktruck
    @uplinktruck28 күн бұрын

    "I can hit my keyboard with my elbow and a lawsuit will fall out." LOL!

  • @aday1637

    @aday1637

    28 күн бұрын

    What are 500 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? Answer: A start.

  • @sinisterdesign
    @sinisterdesign27 күн бұрын

    That porch-painting hypothetical is simply an oral contract: there's offer, acceptance, and full performance by one of the parties. No need for promissory estoppel there. A more realistic promissory estoppel situation would be something like: A homeowner messages a contractor online and says, "If you paint my porch tomorrow, I'll pay you $400"; the contractor decides to forego a different job he was already scheduled to do in order to take on this new job. The next day, he travels two hours to reach the man, ready to do the work; however, the man now says, "I changed my mind." The contractor never formally accepted the offer, but he relied on the homeowner's promise to his detriment (by forgoing the existing job and shelling out for travel expenses). That's a promissory estoppel situation.

  • @thomaswburkhart
    @thomaswburkhart27 күн бұрын

    you had me at the title ngl

  • @AeroGuy07
    @AeroGuy0728 күн бұрын

    Steve, its not a porch, its a Porsche! And there was enough paint left over that I painted the Ferrari too!

  • @My-Pal-Hal

    @My-Pal-Hal

    28 күн бұрын

    That's not how the joke goes 😂 They were supposed to paint the porch. But when the people got back, they said they got the painting done. Oh, and by the way, that's not a porch, that's a BMW 🤣 It's a Mexican contractors joke, so the accent helps 👍 ... Least that's how I remember it from 5-6 decades ago

  • @ronw59

    @ronw59

    28 күн бұрын

    Old joke, but still funny!

  • @genxx2724

    @genxx2724

    28 күн бұрын

    I wouldn’t want anyone to do a $400 paint job on my Porsche, assuming I had one.

  • @XtreeM_FaiL

    @XtreeM_FaiL

    28 күн бұрын

    How do you paint a borch?

  • @thevoiceofreason8240

    @thevoiceofreason8240

    28 күн бұрын

    @@genxx2724 You can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day it's still a Porsche.

  • @MdbCoin
    @MdbCoin28 күн бұрын

    If I was a restaurant owner I would never accept a tip that large on a credit card. Cash only if you want to do something like that.

  • @johnp139

    @johnp139

    28 күн бұрын

    EXACTLY!!! That amount is a GIFT, NOT A TIP!!!

  • @kevinmach730

    @kevinmach730

    27 күн бұрын

    As a vendor to the industry, I agree. In fact, most Point of Sale systems have an option to limit a tip percentage, more to prevent fraud. Also, when someone leaves a tip that big, the credit card fees become a real thing. The tip may be $3k, but the restaurant is only getting $2900.

  • @dragons_red

    @dragons_red

    27 күн бұрын

    It could just be gift regret. In the heat of the moment of feeling generous you do something that isn't financially sensible, and then later when the high wears off you start to have regret. I have done something similar at Christmas time.

  • @carolperdue7534

    @carolperdue7534

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dragons_red Did you go and demand people give you back the gifts?

  • @carolperdue7534

    @carolperdue7534

    27 күн бұрын

    I agree. Its unfortunate because I've heard of the group that does these large tips. Leave it to the one bad apple to spoil it for everyone else.

  • @MrAlexmbat
    @MrAlexmbat28 күн бұрын

    Active Knowledge that you initially authorized the payment and claiming 10.4 or Fraud reason code to your bank is ILLEGAL.

  • @phillunder316
    @phillunder31628 күн бұрын

    Don't forget that the customer signed the merchant's copy of the receipt.

  • @williamhaynes7089

    @williamhaynes7089

    27 күн бұрын

    probably made an unreadable signature that didn't match id

  • @fredfinger7092
    @fredfinger709228 күн бұрын

    Please. When I tip 35% my credit card issuer messages me to confirm it. No way they didn't check with him on that amount. How can he dispute that charge? What a piece of excrement.

  • @dmitripogosian5084

    @dmitripogosian5084

    28 күн бұрын

    It very much depends on card issuer

  • @ninjagirl226

    @ninjagirl226

    27 күн бұрын

    So something like this happened to my sister once turned out her card had been hacked. She was too nice a person to take away the tip but that can happen and I think if the tip had been that much my sister would have disputed it.

  • @blairhoughton7918

    @blairhoughton7918

    27 күн бұрын

    They text you right? You don't have to respond. You have until 30 or 60 days after your statement arrives to dispute anything.

  • @fredfinger7092

    @fredfinger7092

    27 күн бұрын

    @@blairhoughton7918 Depends on the card. One texts me right away, and I have to reply to authorize it. Another one emails me when the charge comes through (usually a day to three later). The email says, not an exact quote, "if you intended to pay this amount, you do not need to take any action. If you did not intend to or this is not your transaction, please reply." This is when they consider something "unusual" like a large tip or a place far from my address. For a "normal" transaction they don't do it, so in that case I would assume your time frame would apply.

  • @russellmania5349

    @russellmania5349

    25 күн бұрын

    @@blairhoughton7918 I thought you only had 30 days to dispute a charge?

  • @ColtonRMagby
    @ColtonRMagby27 күн бұрын

    Ben's next to the LAW4NYC plate. That man needs to be arrested for fraud.

  • @brendamoon2660
    @brendamoon266022 күн бұрын

    I don't why the restaurant had to sue. When you file a dispute through your credit card the merchant has the chance to submit whatever proof they have that it's a legitimate charge

  • @hardyharr1361
    @hardyharr136128 күн бұрын

    Promissory estoppel was from a time when people had integrity.

  • @user-km3pk1pu7h

    @user-km3pk1pu7h

    28 күн бұрын

    Why the hell aren't we using that Promisary Ostople(?) to sue politician?

  • @SoManyRandomRamblings

    @SoManyRandomRamblings

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@user-km3pk1pu7h because that could lead to actual justice, and they can't possibly allow that. /s

  • @blairhoughton7918

    @blairhoughton7918

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@user-km3pk1pu7hWho says you can't? But you'll have to explain how you believed them when they said they would do something, when you know they don't have the power to do that thing alone and can't make promises that others will go along with them. I.e. their promises are empty by default. The promises are rhetoric designed to imply that they agree with your goals. And you can't expect a result. So there's no actual promise made, you're just imagining there was. You're deluded, not defrauded. So there's nothing to sue over, even if they end up voting the other way every time. But their lawyer might not be this bright, so you might try. Be a heck of a thing if you won.

  • @OptimiSkeptic
    @OptimiSkeptic28 күн бұрын

    "Love your neighbor less than you love your money. Love the credit card debt your god with all your passion, your paycheck, and your greed."

  • @thads6192

    @thads6192

    28 күн бұрын

    I could be mistaken but I believe that’s a direct quote from 1 Satan 1-2

  • @raeraebadfingers

    @raeraebadfingers

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@thads6192 😂😂

  • @jonpopelka

    @jonpopelka

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@thads6192Satan wouldn't have disputed the charge.

  • @OptimiSkeptic

    @OptimiSkeptic

    28 күн бұрын

    @@jonpopelka Good point! He would just ignore the bill when it came in.

  • @kellybrandon1179

    @kellybrandon1179

    27 күн бұрын

    Heavy

  • @cornfusedatbest3980
    @cornfusedatbest398023 күн бұрын

    My cc reads that the second man ordered a "strong bully." Gotta love this high tech BILL SHIRT.😅😂😂😮😅

  • @mccallosone4903
    @mccallosone490326 күн бұрын

    good video thanks

  • @AllenKrell
    @AllenKrell28 күн бұрын

    Reflects one of the many challenges of credit card agreements businesses are forced to sign.

  • @lilmike2710
    @lilmike271028 күн бұрын

    I suspect that the generous man is married to a resentful Karen.

  • @HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid
    @HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid18 күн бұрын

    Thus guy did not change his mind. His wife gave him the “are you crazy” treatment

  • @WaferMan2012
    @WaferMan201223 күн бұрын

    Scranton? Was it Dwight Shrute?!! lol😂

  • @WardDorrity
    @WardDorrity28 күн бұрын

    Look out, Steve. Now that you've explained the concept of promissory estoppel, look for pervaloon Chilito to pick this up and incorporate it into one of his hilariously unhinged appeals.

  • @Michael_Courtney
    @Michael_Courtney28 күн бұрын

    The credit card company should not have allowed the customer to win the dispute if the facts are as stated. Changing your mind is not a valid reason to win a credit card dispute.

  • @nancymanly2904

    @nancymanly2904

    28 күн бұрын

    That’s been my experience. The credit card company would notify us that a charge was disputed by the customer. We then had 10 days to respond. Since the charges were usually for >$500 for annual dues and not merchandise, we always sent written documentation and a letter of explanation. That’s what should have happened here, especially since it apparently disputed after more than 30 days.

  • @Vincent_Beers

    @Vincent_Beers

    28 күн бұрын

    You don't know what he told them. He probably lied and said the charge was fraud. A customer service agent looking at a $3k charge tip on such a small bill would assume the customer is telling the truth and do a charge back. Some credit card companies side with their customers and do charge backs with zero investigation.

  • @Michael_Courtney

    @Michael_Courtney

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Vincent_Beersbut they got his ID... So hard to claim fraud.

  • @the_expidition427

    @the_expidition427

    28 күн бұрын

    Saving this

  • @oldtwinsna8347

    @oldtwinsna8347

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Michael_Courtney He could just claim ID theft and that does happen. But anyway, all these records will be subject to subpoena and the restaurant will easily win if that is what came about since his credibility will be shot. Additionally, a civil judge can refer the matter directly to the prosecutor's office for investigation into criminal fraud.

  • @rationalraven8956
    @rationalraven895621 күн бұрын

    Couldn't this guy also face criminal fraud charges? Pretty sure it's illegal to report a credit card charge as unauthorized, if it was in fact authorized.

  • @dalefirmin5118
    @dalefirmin511821 күн бұрын

    I have been working for myself on the side for many, many years. About 25 or 30 years ago I did a small job with signed contract and work order for a total of $90. I had 3 backup letters requesting pay with the last one sent certified mail with return receipt. The customer said "sue me", so I did--in Small Claims. At the time suing in Small Claims cost $100 however ALL judgements in Small Claims included court costs, attorneys fees, miscellaneous fees, etc, automagically (and I also had that specifically stated in our contract as well). He paid AFTER he was served and before trial. Now it cost him over $190 (cost for Certified Mail).

  • @steveericson6209
    @steveericson620928 күн бұрын

    Sometimes a large tip can fall flat with the server: About 10 years ago, I overheard the waitress telling the customers at the next table that even though she talks with her mother on the phone every night, she hadn't seen her mother in almost 13 years. I had eaten in that restaurant probably around 100 times and had enjoyed chats with her many times. So I asked her why she hadn't visited her mother in 13 years. She said that every time she had started saving for that purpose, life threw her a financial curve ball. I told her that I had a lot of airline points and asked if she would like for me to give her a round-trip ticket between Orlando and Detroit. She said yes. I asked her for travel dates and she gave them to me after checking her calendar. I went home, arranged for the round-trip ticket, printed out the information, and drove back to the restaurant, all within about 45 minutes. I handed her the printed copy of the ticket. She looked annoyed, but said "Thanks" under her breath in a way that implied, "thanks, I suppose." Neither she nor I ever brought it up again. Just before her trip was to have taken place, she quit working at the restaurant and so I don't know if she ever took the free trip to see her mother.

  • @voluntarism335

    @voluntarism335

    28 күн бұрын

    maybe she was trying to swindle you out of your money

  • @voluntarism335

    @voluntarism335

    28 күн бұрын

    What I'm thinking is that she tried selling you a sob story so she could swindle you out of your money. She wanted money and the story about her mother was a total lie.

  • @Crackrocksteady

    @Crackrocksteady

    28 күн бұрын

    She went to party

  • @FR-tb7xh

    @FR-tb7xh

    28 күн бұрын

    Clearly, the waitress’s narrative was more important than reality. Kind of like, ‘my parent(s) is the ‘problem,’ but I’ve been big to move above it all. But your generous act effectively revealed a dark backstory lies beyond. I think what’s most disturbing is that her loving mother believes her frequent interaction with her daughter is authentic, when it’s all been a Machiavellian ruse.

  • @Reggie2000

    @Reggie2000

    28 күн бұрын

    There is more expense to a trip than the flight. Who pays her bills during the week she is gone? What about expenses during the trip? Even just extra fees incurred while going to and from the airport. She didn't get a free trip. She got a pricey obligation.

  • @nathanaelstricker9056
    @nathanaelstricker905628 күн бұрын

    This actually happened at my restaurant 3 weeks ago. 😂 Sadly, the server ended up paying $700 back to the restaurant.

  • @kevinmach730

    @kevinmach730

    27 күн бұрын

    I give this restaurant much respect for not doing that or accepting the gofundme. They're holding the appropriate party accountable.

  • @nathanaelstricker9056

    @nathanaelstricker9056

    27 күн бұрын

    @@kevinmach730 100% agreed! This is totally a concession to being nosey, but I do wonder what made this guy go back on his word.

  • @kevinmach730

    @kevinmach730

    27 күн бұрын

    @@nathanaelstricker9056 You aren't the only one that is curious. An extremely shitty thing to do either way, when they literally follow you out to the parking lot to ask you if you meant to leave a tip that large!

  • @rigorocks23

    @rigorocks23

    27 күн бұрын

    you shouldn't work there anymore with that kind of leadership. they're just as bad as this guy in the article

  • @sublimeade

    @sublimeade

    25 күн бұрын

    Don't they pay taxes on that tip? So didnt she end up losing money on the deal

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