Current state of Solo Survivor | Dead by Daylight

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The changes are certainly a bit rough, but find the attitude of some solo players right now to be absolutely horrible. People are giving up way too easily, making many games absolutely infuriating.
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  • @youknowwhoitis.itsmyname4746
    @youknowwhoitis.itsmyname4746 Жыл бұрын

    Otz saying he wants to have a normal game while chat is saying that is a normal game is just gold

  • @mattwoods3317

    @mattwoods3317

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s what Dbd has been for far too long. Survivors never play the whole game anymore.

  • @anettelma123

    @anettelma123

    Жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @00spinz35

    @00spinz35

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattwoods3317 what's the point when your against a sweaty nurse? The right move is to just dc, it not going to be fun so just leave

  • @NachozMan

    @NachozMan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattwoods3317 It's just way worse now with all the garbage players that can't loop for shit no longer able to rely on their crutch HIT E to win button, now they die in 2 seconds in chase and throw the whole game, if someone goes down instantly and I see my other 2 team mates are both diving hook and not doing gens I just kill myself now too lol

  • @ZylpaxGamingxKully

    @ZylpaxGamingxKully

    Жыл бұрын

    its a normal game but survis are trying to just go 1 gen atleast for hatch thats about it, everybody doing his / her quest here and there

  • @Urchinhunter
    @Urchinhunter Жыл бұрын

    “NONONONONO WHAT ARE YOU DOING, SHE DOESNT HAVE FEELINGS; SHES A NURSE” is my new favorite otz quote

  • @albertwesker404

    @albertwesker404

    Жыл бұрын

    He's not wrong

  • @mangobaum9870
    @mangobaum9870 Жыл бұрын

    Now that they have implemented BT as base kit to prevent tunneling I have never been tunneled harder in my entire life

  • @cameronboxall2001

    @cameronboxall2001

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s 5 seconds. It’s nothing. Just stops you from getting hit off of the hook. Hence why off the record is needed

  • @thedoctor5931

    @thedoctor5931

    Жыл бұрын

    There is 0 reason not to camp or tunnel anymore. Base BT is 5s, and getting hit before those 5s are up means OTR is a dead perk. DS literally gets you nowhere since it's effectively 2 seconds. Camping/Tunneling is better because of the gen time increase, gen regression buffs and slowdown stacking that somehow didn't get fixed like endurance stacking did. BBQ also doesn't give bonus bps which actually helped for killers to 'not tunnel' just for the stacks.

  • @mangobaum9870

    @mangobaum9870

    Жыл бұрын

    yea the fice seconds are pointless. If you're not getting facecamped, the endurance is already over by the time the killer gets back to the hook. Also the haste is completely useless, like you're not really that much faster, especially not fast enough to outrun any killer

  • @mangobaum9870

    @mangobaum9870

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thedoctor5931 loosing a survivor at 4 gens feels like a death sentence now, even if perks like ruin and corrupt being deactivated at that point. I don't wanna be the one who cries about killers becoming 'op' and survivors just have to deal with not escaping as frequently as before but the new update just encourages a playstyle that it meant to root out. And that just makes me sad because most of my games consist of someone getting tunneled out early and watching the rest slowly struggle and fail to get anything done

  • @AlisounLink

    @AlisounLink

    Жыл бұрын

    They know exactly that you have it and how long it lasts, because nobody brings BT anymore. It backfired big time. Bring DS? Forget it. You'll be downed straight after again because of the nerf XD I appreciate they're trying to improve the game though, it's a process.

  • @NanoTSTJ
    @NanoTSTJ Жыл бұрын

    The worst part is that I was playing a three stack yesterday and we still had solo teammates throwing at every opportunity they could get just to get out of games they didn't like. It doesn't matter if I'm the soloQ or if I'm playing with the soloQ, the games have been absolutely miserable this patch.

  • @Zulay092

    @Zulay092

    Жыл бұрын

    I swear some people just want to hold one button and repair gens undisturbed by the killer, when that does not happen they DC

  • @LilPlagueToad

    @LilPlagueToad

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Zulay092 Seriously, my favorite part of the game on both ends is the chase, and yet most people just seem to despise it for some odd reason when it's the most engaging part of this game

  • @HayatoWang

    @HayatoWang

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Zulay092 Yeah imagine, some people just want to have fun facing classic killer from their favorite movies/games, and instead of that they just have a random killer with 0 charisma who have a cheating ability who nullify the entire gameplay of the opponent team. Since they have no fun and since it's not a game just a bully simulator, they should not be allowed to DC or surrend, they should let themself be tortured for 15 minutes straight, and then let themself be insulted and humiliated by the same killer at the end game chat who is probably a streamer. We should disable permanently the exit button, if you dare closing your game, the game launch again by itself and force you to play. If you still refuse to play we take control of your computer and a moderator play for you, if you still manage a way to not play like removing your internet connexion, we send an FBI unit where their IP was located and we send them to jail. Because it's a video game. They have no right to play the way they want with a game they bought, they should'nt be allowed to do what they want of their time. You see the sarcasm here or i need to push a little bit more your stupid conception of the situation ? :)

  • @HayatoWang

    @HayatoWang

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LilPlagueToad Being chased by a Killer is fun. Being hunted by an Ak-47 or by a X-men with superpowers to teleport or run faster than a car is boring and unfun.

  • @DikkeRoman

    @DikkeRoman

    Жыл бұрын

    play another game

  • @CadeCraze
    @CadeCraze Жыл бұрын

    Me who has no friends: "I thought everyone was a solo survivor!"

  • @raiu_fp5194

    @raiu_fp5194

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel you expect my friends don’t have this game 🥲

  • @lia.seonin

    @lia.seonin

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @illusion3409

    @illusion3409

    Жыл бұрын

    so true

  • @matheus-santana

    @matheus-santana

    Жыл бұрын

    @its Time dude stop with this, jesus christ so fucking annoying

  • @KinguKirimuzon

    @KinguKirimuzon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matheus-santana my fellow, you are replying to a bot

  • @gundamthatateataco4729
    @gundamthatateataco4729 Жыл бұрын

    I can say that, at least from killer perspective, the number of DC's and survivors just getting hit once and then just giving up has increased a lot since the update dropped.

  • @Evalora

    @Evalora

    Жыл бұрын

    @@foooof7847 until they figure out that in a lot of situations (re: ones that matter) dead hard is even better now

  • @anidiot8845

    @anidiot8845

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen this before as killer. For some reason the first survivor to get hooked gives up immediately. Not even just with nurse. Caused someone quickly as huntress because they played bad and the Instantly killed themselves.

  • @andrew_h6

    @andrew_h6

    Жыл бұрын

    @@foooof7847 The game just isn’t fun for many survivors now, even if DH wasn’t nerfed. Gens take longer, and the Thanat buff essentially guarantees that your whole team is going to be holding M1 for 95% of the game. The most powerful killers are busted, so it’s an uphill battle as soon as you hear a crash or a screech. Solo survivor is abysmal. The devs keep balancing the game around SWF, and yet they don’t let solo survivors communicate with their randoms. The game hinges on whether or not you’re using a third party software.

  • @TrueCarthaginian

    @TrueCarthaginian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@foooof7847 Or maybe it's because they know that as soon as they go down there's a 99% chance that they're going to be camped and tunneled since the most unfun strategies in the game received a massive buff.

  • @herbaljellyfish9842

    @herbaljellyfish9842

    Жыл бұрын

    Because if you don't have at least two gens done by the first hook, you have games like this. Not to mention killers will just camp/tunnel the first survivor and it's not feasible for 3 survivors to do 3 gens in this new patch. It's understandable that many don't want to subject themselves to an unfun, drawn-out miserable experience that will inherently result in a loss. When you remove the fun aspect of a game, it's no wonder people don't care much anymore. The VHS EA launch timing couldn't have been more perfect. The amount of people who have flocked to VHS from DBD after this patch are easily in the thousands. Two completely different games, but at least right now, VHS is really fun. After all, fun is precisely the reason people play video games.

  • @NachozMan
    @NachozMan Жыл бұрын

    "SHE DOESNT HAVE FEELINGS SHES PLAYING NURSE" LOL that had me cracking up because gawd damn is it true, every nurse plays with hate in their heart for every moment of pain they've endured at the hands of the survivors lmao. I'm sure the nurse mains are just eating up the salt spewing from all the Survivors about the state of the game rn.

  • @TheDreadedJuggernaut

    @TheDreadedJuggernaut

    Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully they'll buff nurse again soon to compensate. They have it so hard these days, it really shows with all the hate around her.

  • @MasiAnime7

    @MasiAnime7

    Жыл бұрын

    As a nurse main, yep, I confirm I love smashing hardcore premades, BUT also I'm taking this patch very chill. Survivors don't know what to do without DH/DS/IW and if you go with a tryhard build they just disconnect or suicide. I'm just using aura perks, meme addons and try to chill out, which is all I ever wanted in this game

  • @Shimlayy

    @Shimlayy

    Жыл бұрын

    Nurse mains play as if they have a gun to their head and if they lose they’ll be killed

  • @aurum4146

    @aurum4146

    Жыл бұрын

    Well you know you get bullied for a 100 hours jsut trying to learn her but then when you bully back survivors cry xD

  • @MasiAnime7

    @MasiAnime7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aurum4146 All I can say is survivors get what they deserve hahaha, but when you face very experienced survivors in premade, only range addons feel unbalanced. I hope with 1-2 weeks more, people get use to this new update and start to chill out more. I know there are lot of angry killers out there just wishing to destroy every squad in 1 minute, and this is the perfect moment to do that. Do it now for a week or two and start to chill out, this is the game all killer players wanted for years, or at least is very close to that

  • @tokitsuka2267
    @tokitsuka2267 Жыл бұрын

    Solo is indeed in a mess right now, it was rarely a great experience but I cant remember the last time it was this bad. So many Survivors throwing the match on the first Hook 3 Gens in. So many killing themselfs/afk/dc. You can literaly run Kindred + open hand and nobody moves. Running Bond or other Perks to show fellow surv auras is a nightmare to behold, self caring for half a gens worth rather than using a BCoH or Medkit. And even though the Point cap got raised, most of the time 2 people in the lobby fall below 10k. What did they do? Totems?

  • @ManicByMidnightShow

    @ManicByMidnightShow

    Жыл бұрын

    No one wants to play because the game now requires people to actually respect the killer.

  • @WeinerTouchy

    @WeinerTouchy

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, I still run self care because I like it more and I recently just started playing in console so I don’t have all my perks unlocked - but more to the point: This is just how solo has always been. There’s always 2 people at the bottom of the board with 10k or 12k point because they don’t know how to run from the killer. I can get two - three gens done, loop for a bit, unhook some people, take out some totems and then the game is over and I made an easy 30-50k BP. But that’s how it’s always been. People are still bad at the game, that hasn’t changed just because there is a new patch that buffed killers.

  • @jere3604

    @jere3604

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ManicByMidnightShow and because the game is strongly killer sided atm

  • @tigerbeard65

    @tigerbeard65

    Жыл бұрын

    Too many people have become reliant on a meta that went on for far too long. Now it's not there they aren't able to adapt. Hopefully the situation will change in a few weeks.

  • @jere3604

    @jere3604

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tigerbeard65 50 second longer gens + killer buffs + removing the strongest survivor perk is definetly not just a change in meta. Killers dont have to run as much slowdown now as they did before and can use more chase perks and every match seems to have thanatophobia which makes the games go way too long also

  • @rat-yt
    @rat-yt Жыл бұрын

    "She doesn't have feelings! She's playing Nurse!"

  • @hamedhosseini4938

    @hamedhosseini4938

    Жыл бұрын

    True words have never been said better

  • @Xxicewolf97xX
    @Xxicewolf97xX Жыл бұрын

    Solo has been a pain for me when playing. I haven't really used perks like Dead Hard & Decisive for a while even before the update, but the games definitely feel tougher regardless with the killer quicker action speeds & slower gen progress. You really need to be lucky that you get a team that can kill as much time as possible with the killer, otherwise they will end games with 3+ gens to spare assuming the team gets snowball'd.

  • @HoLeeSheet117

    @HoLeeSheet117

    Жыл бұрын

    There was no issue using those perks before update honestly. It just sucks they didn't really "balance" majority of the survivor perks. Only a few shine from the rest but most are mediocre at best.

  • @MrFusion

    @MrFusion

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's really easy to snowball now, I've had some good games but it feels like survivors make one or two mistakes can kill a match. I've also had a couple braindead players pop up more commonly, like letting people die on hook and refusing to rescue, people not doing gens, etc. Maybe MMR got fucked up, who knows.

  • @Xxicewolf97xX

    @Xxicewolf97xX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HoLeeSheet117 Yeah there are still far too many perks that get untouched on both sides, and when some perks get buffed others become obsolete, although it can be fun sometimes to just mess around with random builds like one for opening chests or being sneaky. I think people are still experimenting with finding a new meta now that the old one's been weakened a lot, but like Otz has said before, solo queue will need to probably consist of some team perks like Kindred & Prove Thyself as well as self-efficiency perks for staying in the game longer.

  • @Demonsouls1993

    @Demonsouls1993

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HoLeeSheet117 survivor main found go back in time and play killer then tell is that

  • @Reis_Room

    @Reis_Room

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah, totally agree with that... the only killer that's still easy to VS is Sadako, due to her limited teleportation areas and pretty huge cooldowns on TVs (even with addons)... did 5 gens and Sadako got just 1 hook. Also the other match I managed to survive was against Clown with agitation+startstruck (for some reason)...and in fact I was gonna throw the match since I was the last person alive with 0 hooks by the time hatch spawned (1 gen was remaining as well)...so i was just sitting on a gen (farming bp while still can) waiting until he comes and hooks me on the hook next to gen... he closed hatch 40m away from me (I figured it out later) but didn't check the gen I was doing (by that moment it was ~70% done..from 0).. I checked gate locations and thought "fine, then I will come to gate, he'll probably just find me on my way there".. sneaking through the rooms and using windows to break line of sight as much as possible i WALKED to the nearest gate in Larry's (trash bin and 3 bricks one), I didn't even touch the switch, and just crouched behind bricks waiting for him to come back and check this gate (I saw him going to the other gate while I was walking to this one)...when it was around 40% endgame collapse he came in.. and to my biggest fear he decided to check the courtyard walking around but he made a mistake turning his camera away to check the corner near exit gate when he passed the bricks and when he started moving backwards I started crouching towards that corner while he quickly swept camera towards the door he entered to the courtyard and probably due to limited FOV of killers he didn't notice my hat and moved away, when I his terror radius became really hard to hear I moved to gate switch and opened it few seconds before his terror radius appeared again. by the time he lined up with exit gate I was already hiding inside behind pillar.. I guess he had blood warden, cuz he was looking at the pillar i was hiding behind all the time while he was holding bottle for a throw..but last second he threw it at the center and I spirt bursted through it unscratched... benevolent silver evader silver lightbringer iridescent unbroken iridescent. 20k score. after update I prefer bait in killers with walking and then sprinting away with lightweight and Spr. Burst, That's easier than looping them wth faster actions and bloodlust stacking. I think if everyone just used burst vigil lightweight, they'd just win more often than running still useless self-care and tons of other trash (moreover tier1s) that I keep seeing on those solo que randoms I get matched every day.

  • @rabbitman7736
    @rabbitman7736 Жыл бұрын

    I had mixed results with my solo queue games. Sometimes I died, sometimes I found hatch. I don't remember a match where we got all 5 gens done. My killer matches felt like easy mode. I had to stop trying in order for the survivors to really accomplish very much.

  • @assburner1687

    @assburner1687

    Жыл бұрын

    I just had a killer match with a hacker speed hack I couldn't pick him up

  • @muppet5760

    @muppet5760

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here. Win to lose ratio of solo q must be about 2 to 8 or maybe even 1 to 9, including the games when the killer lets you win or is afk. I think they tried to balance it (if that was bhvr's intention at all) around premade groups at high MMRs. I don't really think that they could balance the game in regards to solo q. The lack of communication and not being able to align the perks already put the survivors at a massive disadvantage. On top of that the skill difference between each player can be just as big. Both combined make the matches extremely one sided.

  • @RavenDumpster
    @RavenDumpster Жыл бұрын

    Honestly from killer perspective it's been feeling like we've returned to old DBD where everyone runs sprint burst and disconnects if they go down first

  • @JohnSmith-tc9ms

    @JohnSmith-tc9ms

    Жыл бұрын

    From my experience if we don’t do a Gen in the first 3 mins we lost the game

  • @floofzykitty5072
    @floofzykitty5072 Жыл бұрын

    I have survivors giving up almost every. single. game. Happens so often I have started using Wake Up + Sole Survivor to guarantee an exit gate escape. If you have both these two perks I honestly think there is nothing the killer can do unless the exit gates spawn in eyesight of each other.

  • @dominicstanton2725

    @dominicstanton2725

    Жыл бұрын

    So you get screwed on midwich?

  • @AlphaAlarmClock

    @AlphaAlarmClock

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh hey I know you

  • @PrincessFelicie

    @PrincessFelicie

    Жыл бұрын

    I recommend Left Behind instead, takes up a single perk slot and has the same near-guaranteed exit effect.

  • @amaterasu3099

    @amaterasu3099

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean can you really blame them tho we only get to see sweaty blights an nurses now for some reason. If the match isn't fun then bye I'm not playing anymore lol

  • @starmoral5456

    @starmoral5456

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amaterasu3099 oh we can 100% blame them. The last thing we want to deal with is a blight or nurse with a fuckwit DC.

  • @ewanjak
    @ewanjak Жыл бұрын

    the only thing that this update did was make killer queues as long as survivor queues used to be

  • @xymidori

    @xymidori

    Жыл бұрын

    for real lol, killer queues were always instant for me before, now it takes 5+ mins to find a match

  • @stardust9329

    @stardust9329

    Жыл бұрын

    That's cuz either there aren't many survivors (Hmm I wonder why) or the MMR system is fucked up

  • @PolishJoji

    @PolishJoji

    Жыл бұрын

    People can't easily win anymore as survivors so they are playing killer now

  • @dumblenutz5561

    @dumblenutz5561

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PolishJoji because killer is easily more fun and less stressful than solo, especially now that the average solo teammate plays even worse

  • @PolishJoji

    @PolishJoji

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dumblenutz5561 yeah i mean playing against good survivors or on bad killer map is hard, but after patch i feel better playing killer. Solo que is hard now but i think people will find other meta builds and killer ques will be back to normal (atleast i hope so, pls i dont want to wait 10 minutes to play killer im in pain as killer main)

  • @mscup8814
    @mscup8814 Жыл бұрын

    DBD is a fun game! -As long as your teammates don't suck -As long as the killer isn't broken -As long as you don't get camped -As long as you don't get slugged -As long as you don't get tunneled -As long as you actually have fun somehow

  • @Th3VirtualGam3r

    @Th3VirtualGam3r

    Жыл бұрын

    Have you tried dota 2? This game is super chill compared to that. After 4k hours on dota I quit that actual toxic game and started playing dbd again

  • @Wolvahulk

    @Wolvahulk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Th3VirtualGam3r MOBA's in general. If you ever thought about League, just don't lol.

  • @hbombdaboss97

    @hbombdaboss97

    Жыл бұрын

    “Ooo killer is so hard” literally living life on recruit difficulty. Hope all the killer mains are happy their game just got even easier.

  • @4Moth2Mellow0

    @4Moth2Mellow0

    Жыл бұрын

    At least their is actual gameplay in a moba. Instead of just sitting still and hitting skill checks

  • @enigma9273

    @enigma9273

    Жыл бұрын

    Play to win or do not play. i do not play DBD but i will use every single tool, advantage, or strat it takes to win my games. if it pisses some one off they need to improve

  • @joho4430
    @joho4430 Жыл бұрын

    Something I really like about the dbd community is that there’s always a conversation going on about how to make the game better. I always look on my feed to hear people talking about the next big thing they want for the game, and they give sound reasons for it

  • @ShintyShinto

    @ShintyShinto

    Жыл бұрын

    base kit kindred. i am tired of having to reserve a perk slot just to get SEMI reliable unhooks in solo q which is info that swf get for free. maybe leave it at tier 1, and people who want the og kindred can play with open-handed. would also help a bit against facecamping.

  • @thefoundation3489

    @thefoundation3489

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. The community is toxic as hell, for sure. But there's a constant stream of advice on how to improve the game, from both side's perspective.

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShintyShinto also base kit situational awareness and highlight the gen in bright red and maybe put a sign here STAY THE F AWAY cuz people love to lead the killer into some high progress gens removing progress from them completely.

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    And most of dbd community don't even understand what they talk about and what changes they ask for. I usually love to listen what Otz and Scott recommend for devs and mostly agree with them, but lots of people who complain actually complain about minor things that they can't get over. The biggest complains are both Nurse and SFW. Bad killers can't overcome SFW and learn to play against them and jealous survs can't overcome that someone spent hundreds of hours into single killer just to be good and complain that killer is overpowered even though if you ask them to play this killer and exactly show how he is overpowered they lose and complain about something else. The only overpowered killer of dbd history is Spirit and she got what she deserved, took absolutely no skill and was on the same power level as Blight and Nurse. While both Blight and Nurse takes ages to master and be good with.

  • @dee_the_bee3772

    @dee_the_bee3772

    Жыл бұрын

    U cant make a broken game better, u only can survive the nonsense behaviour comes up with while on drugs xD

  • @Twilight.Princess
    @Twilight.Princess Жыл бұрын

    After this patch 7/10 of my survivor games have been Nurse. At this point I expect a Nurse every game almost. Also using nearly the same exact build.

  • @Jilldo

    @Jilldo

    Жыл бұрын

    Cuz even when killers get a buff the majority still just want the easiest win possible. Exactly the same for the last couple days i tried playing again before uninstalling. At this stage i hope the game dives, the devs deserve it and the playerbase deserves better!

  • @whoami9576

    @whoami9576

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jilldothe type of people like you are the WORST for the community,

  • @Savaqe_Mode

    @Savaqe_Mode

    Жыл бұрын

    First 10gms of this patch for me was a rotation of Nurse Blight and Huntress over and over lol

  • @jR0xas

    @jR0xas

    Жыл бұрын

    Same but also Blight with 4 slowdowns.

  • @dumblenutz5561

    @dumblenutz5561

    Жыл бұрын

    Average r/dbd killer: "Survivors are so boring to play against, why do they always use the same perks and play the exact same way!" That same killer: Tunneling Blight with Alc Ring/Blighted crow with Pain Res, Dead Man's, Tinkerer and Deadlock

  • @burskixpompa2886
    @burskixpompa2886 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe it's just me but I feel like tunneling got even worse after the update, killers who tunneled before the update now they have even easier time doing that

  • @Jilldo

    @Jilldo

    Жыл бұрын

    It did. The game is total garbage, ive uninstalled permanently along with a number of other friends. Done with it (have been for months after years of playing) but its got progressively worse and worse due to tunneling and camping. Its just a boring game now.

  • @whoami9576

    @whoami9576

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jilldo good riddance

  • @fart63

    @fart63

    Жыл бұрын

    Ive seen less tunneling than before. Same amount of camping, but way more dcs than usual

  • @BubbaSimp

    @BubbaSimp

    Жыл бұрын

    killers are not even slugging for 60 seconds anymore lol

  • @ddd4040

    @ddd4040

    Жыл бұрын

    I can absolutely attest it is easier than ever to tunnel someone out the game, as a person who has tunneled and gotten tunneled within the same hour, DS and DH and OTR does pretty much nothing if they're determined to get you out the game. Hit them when they're unhooked = deep wounds = no OTR, DH doesn't work with deep wounds, and DS 3 second stun is a joke for the top killers.

  • @Lik216
    @Lik216 Жыл бұрын

    The devs never consider those who solo queue. From the past MMR changes to the new update. Solo survivors typically find themselves matched with people who aren’t near their skill level or those who literally DC or kill themselves on hook after the first down.

  • @croquetamaru
    @croquetamaru Жыл бұрын

    I returned to DbD after 6 months or so and I was having a lot of fun trying different builds. I don't mind dying if I have fun with the match but I started getting the same killers over and over again, not only with their buffs but with iri addons, and the same perks. This video has been my experience last 2 days and I haven't escaped even once, reason is I'm too altruistic, it seems the only way to escape is being selfish and let people die on hook while everyone else does gens. And I play killer too but I feel really bad when survivors start giving up and it's bitter winning like that. I think the update was necessary but it's not over yet, it needs more tweaking with some perks and killers (not all nerfs).

  • @nolives

    @nolives

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately thats true. Ive only had 2 wins (3 survivors escape) and one the killer just let us have gates even though we were all one tap dead on hook. If i play selfishly I can escapse 90% of the time. In fact I have a better survive rate if I play this selfish. But I dont, cause its boring and shitty. The middle ground is making a unhook build. You help your team so your not freeloading, they die on hook faster letting you escape sooner, and you dont get reported for being a complete shitter.

  • @Vasiliy9hells

    @Vasiliy9hells

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, not all iri addons are great. You have to build your playstyle around most of them. Iri Oni is terrible, for example, as iri Pyramid Head. For the iri Huntress, you have to have a great aim, and so on

  • @SlaaneshM30

    @SlaaneshM30

    Жыл бұрын

    If you have fun playing killer, you're on MMR 0.

  • @croquetamaru

    @croquetamaru

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SlaaneshM30 I disagree, I never liked easy matches as a killer, and the best matches I had was when facing strong SWF and being able to turn the tables. It can be frustrating when losing but it's naïve to think you can always win.

  • @SlaaneshM30

    @SlaaneshM30

    Жыл бұрын

    @@croquetamaru It is. That's why I don't think I should always win. I think I should always have the chance to win and DbD does not have that.

  • @justin4203
    @justin4203 Жыл бұрын

    Devs: "Billy's Chainsaw is a bit overwhelming. So we're going to give him an overheat mechanic, and some useless addons." Billy Mains: "Aww man!" Devs: "Now we're looking at Nurse and..." Nurse Mains: "Oh god... what's happening. What's happening?!" Devs: "We've decided she needs range addons that also increase the speed of which she Blinks. This is intended and not a bug." Billy Mains: "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!"

  • @gnolex86

    @gnolex86

    Жыл бұрын

    Can people stop spreading this misinformation about blink speed? Devs didn't introduce it recently, this is how Nurse always worked.

  • @millsy800

    @millsy800

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gnolex86 Yeah omega blink nurse has been a thing since release, used to even worse than it is.

  • @deathridergt

    @deathridergt

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gnolex86 it has not been introduced recently but they aknowledged recently that this is intended, which is completely crazy

  • @ba-a-a

    @ba-a-a

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gnolex86 based vilage idiot.

  • @davidf3974

    @davidf3974

    Жыл бұрын

    Omegablink is what people complained about not basekit nurse. So what do the devs do? Keep omegablink and nerf her basekit.

  • @chillcloak
    @chillcloak Жыл бұрын

    The devs themselves have acknowledged that as the game evolves the solo queue experience has gotten worse. I have solo queued this game for years but I feel forced to take a break after this update, and until they make some changes that make playing less insufferable I don’t plan on coming back. Enough is enough.

  • @nolives

    @nolives

    Жыл бұрын

    Its as simple as adjusting perks based off grouping.

  • @sxerwin

    @sxerwin

    Жыл бұрын

    yes the survivors know the killers pain now

  • @luccazc

    @luccazc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sxerwin solo survivors know that pain for a while

  • @YaMaTo999Vir

    @YaMaTo999Vir

    Жыл бұрын

    One update and pussy survivours running away without unlimited dead hards or DC instead of adspting like killers all that years. Thats the level of differences between killers and survivours estate.

  • @donatobennardi6257

    @donatobennardi6257

    Жыл бұрын

    Solo queue build perks got brutally nerfed, now its impossible to Win against good killers.

  • @notofficial1965
    @notofficial1965 Жыл бұрын

    Currently in almost every match I either see Hex: Devour Hope or an Ebony Memento Mori. The amount of matches we as survivors lost bc Devour Hope had 3+ stacks and didnt manage to cleanse it bc it's hidden in the least propable spawnpoint is honestly worth the risk of getting Haunted Grounds by now.

  • @Skynet5885

    @Skynet5885

    Жыл бұрын

    Only until you run a build to counter hexes. Then no one runs a single hex, like the matchmaker knows and won't give you those killers unless you can't counter them easily.

  • @mkgreenkoey92

    @mkgreenkoey92

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Skynet5885 … that sounds like max cope lol

  • @ShintyShinto

    @ShintyShinto

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mkgreenkoey92 cope + seethe + yb better... fr tho most people know the matchmaking is not actually out to get them, it just feels like it at times. we've all been there, sometimes it feels like bringing counter perks is only useful for NOT encountering whatever perk/behaviour i'm trying to counter lol.

  • @cyber_xiii3786

    @cyber_xiii3786

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen 1 ebony mori in the past month or so. Devour hope maybe a couple times

  • @noahleach7690

    @noahleach7690

    Жыл бұрын

    break the totem

  • @finwhatcott112
    @finwhatcott112 Жыл бұрын

    wish they’d give us another game mode. maybe a perkless one with some changes or so to make the game more chill. it’s so competitive now I miss being able to get on and just have fun, now it’s ALWAYS sweaty and it’s kind of a chore to play.

  • @iheartblock3792
    @iheartblock3792 Жыл бұрын

    We love nurses who treat whether or not they win as a life or death situation

  • @deathbringer9893

    @deathbringer9893

    Жыл бұрын

    they simply just want a win some people want to comp others just want to crush people with the latter being lame

  • @roccoon9892

    @roccoon9892

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deathbringer9893 Have you ever heard of commas, ma boy? I had a brain fart trying to understand your comment.

  • @teckdeck6480

    @teckdeck6480

    Жыл бұрын

    @@roccoon9892 Ever heard of no one giving a fuck almost hurt my brain cause of how stupid your comment is

  • @deathbringer9893

    @deathbringer9893

    Жыл бұрын

    @@roccoon9892 no i never heard of such thing

  • @Justhunk

    @Justhunk

    Жыл бұрын

    That's every Nurse ever tbh, if they don't play every match like it's the end of a tournament in which if they fail to get a 4k at 5 gens they'll need to write a public apology to the Nurse Mains Congress

  • @bo8fett.
    @bo8fett. Жыл бұрын

    Tbh this video hit hard. I’m a 50+ day (Xbox) survivor who plays solo. Even before the update, 1/3 of my games resulted in a teammate committing on hook or disconnecting; made only worse by the fact other survivors are more inclined on giving up once another leaves. I’m taking a break from the game after a few days of the update. Not because of gen speeds or perk nerfs, but because these unfortunate attitudes have only gotten worse. As a survivor you need to be content even when you lose; however, that is tremendously difficult when you’re at four generators left and two of your teammates have abandoned you.

  • @Mink_Tracks

    @Mink_Tracks

    Жыл бұрын

    When he did his "dbd is survivor sided video" 6 months ago, he really didnt account for the rift between the difficulty levels of solo queue vs teams. Im sorry but every match I have in a full premade is a cake walk compared to my solo queue experience. "The game is sided for those who play the most cruel and unfair" HOW TF ARE A BUNCH OF SOLO QUEUES SUPPOSE TO PLAY CUTTHROAT WHEN WE DONT EVEN KNOW WTF IF GOING ON. THERES NO COMMS. I feel like Otz partially contributed to the problem by not differentiating enough between the sucess ceiling of solos vs premades. The devs (and community) obviously listen to him on some fronts.

  • @ObstagoonGuy

    @ObstagoonGuy

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said. I also noticed that toxic behaviour like this drastically increased after the update dropped. From other games, I know that big updates lead an influx of players returning to the game. And I don't have proof for this theory, but it feels like those returning players get frustrated very easily and are the main reason for increased toxicity. Give it a week or two and everything should be back to normal. Normal meaning that you can at least play 3-4 games in a row without running into people DCing

  • @bo8fett.

    @bo8fett.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mink_Tracks You’re not wrong. I dedicate at least two of my perks for aura reading abilities to help my teammates. Yet no verbal communication downplays strategy severely. It’s challenging, but not awful. The awful part comes from not being able to trust anyone as we can’t actively coordinate. It’s random if you get smart teammates or selfish teammates; although the latter is more popular: only made worse by the inconsistent matchmaking.

  • @bo8fett.

    @bo8fett.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ObstagoonGuy I can only hope. But like I said, this rage-quitting behaviour was still awful prior to the update. Your theory probably explains an influx of toxic behaviour, so I’ll give it a week and hope.

  • @nolives

    @nolives

    Жыл бұрын

    I dont disconnect and im ok with losing, HOWEVER, its harder being ok with losing when its literally a decimation EVERY ROUND.

  • @HandlesL
    @HandlesL Жыл бұрын

    I dont blame the survivors in the slightest The Nurse players made the game as unfun as possible so its to be expected people wont want to play as a response to the super slugging gameplay

  • @scrapinator8898

    @scrapinator8898

    Жыл бұрын

    Best time as a Survivor was when nurse was disabled f*** people who play as nurse she needs to leave this game

  • @scrapinator8898

    @scrapinator8898

    Жыл бұрын

    Better yet the game should let you pick one killer to have a less likely chance of going against. Then nurse players will have to get a new life and actually learn how to play a game.

  • @_sarpa

    @_sarpa

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scrapinator8898 survivors should try playing a game that requires more skill than hiding around corners, holding m1 and using predetermined flowchart 'tactics' to run around loops

  • @djekdozovitch3679

    @djekdozovitch3679

    Жыл бұрын

    Just to remind you guys, Nurse mains exist cause survivors basically smash any other killers. So yeah, dont hate on Nurse mains as a new object of hate, just as survivors like to say you need to "get good" and you ll probably do better against Nurses yourselves. And also you as survivors are not supposed to win every match, which is a funny thing cause its what you tell killers every time like its fine to lose.

  • @scrapinator8898

    @scrapinator8898

    Жыл бұрын

    @@djekdozovitch3679 nothing you just said added anything to this discussion

  • @emoneestep3244
    @emoneestep3244 Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, solo queue was hit hard with this update. Your teammates may have just had a string of bad matches back-to-back. Since Knock-Out was buffed, Slugging has been far more common. Since Gen regression was buffed to high heaven and gens take longer to do, camping has become an even more viable strategy. That cute "5 seconds of BT" literally does nothing to dissuade tunneling, which has also gotten a lot worse especially since most Killers can easily eat that reduced 3 second stun and keep tunneling without any problem. A lot of solo queue perks (Namely Iron Will, Self-Care & Spine Chill) were butchered while the few "buffed" perks are still as useless or situational as they ever were before. Additionally, I've noticed a lot more nurse players since this update. There is no problem with the Killer buffs, but the fact that BHVR ALSO nerfed solo queue survivor is why you get a lot of people just quitting mid match.

  • @claudussy8824
    @claudussy8824 Жыл бұрын

    A nurse slugging at 4 gens…Literally every nurse is the same.💀

  • @milkyym8891

    @milkyym8891

    Жыл бұрын

    It's too easy bro. Maybe the survivors are the same.

  • @PlushLordOfTheSeas

    @PlushLordOfTheSeas

    Жыл бұрын

    Why would you not just keep attacking survivors when they're all stacked up and swarming around? Are you "supposed to" ignore them and pick someone up so they can flashy save or something?

  • @cimplekin

    @cimplekin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlushLordOfTheSeas no but its not fun for all 5 of the players. + the game is over anyway

  • @Novamatic_

    @Novamatic_

    Жыл бұрын

    feel free to slug whenever, but if some nurse or blight is going to slug so early into the match when there is so little pressure made by the survivors I wouldn’t expect them to stay in the match or blame them for giving up on hook And there were moments in the first match (idk about the second I kinda stopped watching) where the killer wasn’t just slugging people stacking up. Like at around 4 minutes they downed the two people at the gen and I think one was death hook yet they still pursued otz who had ran to the other side of the main building. Like idk you won the game already, why go for the triple slug but that’s just my view

  • @Novamatic_

    @Novamatic_

    Жыл бұрын

    @CDP no, it isn’t, but when you’re trying to win a match (that you’ve already won) by going for full slugs you could understand why people would give up and try to get out of the match asap. My complaint isn’t the trying to win part, it’s the disdain towards people giving up after a miserable experience where you’ve been left on the ground while the killer goes to down everyone at 5/4 gens. I know you haven’t complained about survivors giving up in the thread but there are so many people who complain about survivors wanting to give up in nearly unwinnable, boring games

  • @ElementTF2
    @ElementTF2 Жыл бұрын

    I dunno man, if I'm solo Q and I'm facing a nurse with Lethal, Agi, Starstruck and IF, I don't think I would blame anybody for killing themselves on hook. This isn't THEIR fault, this is a symptom of BHVR ignoring the problem: it's absolutely miserable to play vs a nurse like that while slugged on the floor for 3 minutes straight until she has successfully downed everyone. I don't really think we should be blaming our teammates for wanting to leave ASAP, we should be blaming BHVR for letting this go on for so long, IMO

  • @univalvefoilstrong1184

    @univalvefoilstrong1184

    Жыл бұрын

    They could just not do that but ok its BHVR fault you kill yourslef on first hook on 4 gens

  • @knoccie_

    @knoccie_

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! Can’t believe Otz was mad at his team mates during that nurse game.

  • @IIAshyII255

    @IIAshyII255

    Жыл бұрын

    Completely agree

  • @karlbrady8963

    @karlbrady8963

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah while I dont generally like dcing I can't really blame people for it when the match outcome is basically predetermined

  • @elfkaze

    @elfkaze

    Жыл бұрын

    Killer mains tend to blame survivor's for everything and make every excuse in the world for the killer. Things like "oh it's not the killers fault for slugging the survivor's just allowed themselves to be slugged" or if your tunneled "Well if you were just better then the killer you wouldn't go down" despite the Killer having big advantages in 1v1 scenario's and the list goes on and on.

  • @Raijuri
    @Raijuri Жыл бұрын

    With most games being thanataphobia + regression legion and/or insta-down nurse, I can't blame anyone for quitting. It's either go next or sit in a game that's going to take a million years of back and forth or just be a game of constant immersion and little progress.

  • @the_furf_of_july4652
    @the_furf_of_july4652 Жыл бұрын

    I unfortunately relate too hard to trying to play solo survivor, a bunch of things going wrong immediately, getting my spirit crushed for honestly not much reason, and giving up.

  • @TheCenobyte
    @TheCenobyte Жыл бұрын

    I've played about 30-ish solo games since the update and only escaped twice. Just over 1k hours in the game, I'm not terrible. The state of the game right now has made me given up playing. Little or no fun to be had in a sea of frustration and pain.

  • @nolives

    @nolives

    Жыл бұрын

    I can escape solo like 90% of the time if i let my team die. But ive only seen 2 games since update with 3+ escapes and one of them the killer had mercy and gave us the gate out of respect for our gen rush.

  • @NachozMan

    @NachozMan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nolives In order to do anything in solo q with my absolute braindead team I basically have to always do 1 gen for myself and run all the sole survivor type perks and go for hatch/fast exit gate open. Dead Hard nerf really showing the lack of skill most survivors have now due to relying on it as a crutch for so long. Honestly feels like people forgot how to loop and properly hide, and not dive bomb hook all of the sudden, it's kinda sad.

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah 2k hours on the game and playing since 2016 I've never seen in my entire soloq playtime that amount of 4ks every match))) And I don't mind a 4k by a killer with good experience and strong addons and perks, but dam perkless trapper with no addons also does that to me, since I can't solo carry my team :(

  • @hamedhosseini4938

    @hamedhosseini4938

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Someone said it. People unless you really don't care, solo experience or swfs with no comms really not worth your sanity at the current state of dbd.

  • @sadneopixel7396

    @sadneopixel7396

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude same here i just want to finish my fucking challenge BUT I CANT ESCAPE

  • @Hazard0ss
    @Hazard0ss Жыл бұрын

    After buffing killers, they now need to step up and do something about camping. It has always been effective, but now with longer gen times it's too much of a viable strategy to just facecamp. First step would be removing hookgrabs, second would be some kind of debuff when the killer stays close to the hook. Maybe it should buff gen speeds or something when the killer stays close to the hook without being in a chase.

  • @kubhfbebr630

    @kubhfbebr630

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t think removing hookgrabs would be smart, as it’s the only way for the killer to defend a 1 for 1. I do like your other suggestion though, maybe a slow ramping speed boost to all gens, or slow down entity progression?

  • @Maybe_Saber

    @Maybe_Saber

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kubhfbebr630 So the killer deserves a free 1 for 1 grab for camping? Makes sense. The idea is garbage to because the problem with camping is it entirely ruins the game for the person getting camped and that idea doesn't help the person actually being camped in the slightest.

  • @JRook-00

    @JRook-00

    Жыл бұрын

    They don't need to remove Hook Grabs; I think the answer is pretty simple (I say, knowing full well that I'm about to get flamed by every Killer Main that reads this, despite the fact that I AM in fact a Killer Main, who sees the issues). I feel like for Gens 5-4, hook state just shouldn't progress when the killer in within 16 Meters and not in chase. It can be reduced to a Kinship Speed for gens 3-4, and at 1 Gen, it can just drop to full on Face Camp at Full Speed. Gives you the option to make one final big ass play, with decent time to set up said play, but not before. Like, this buff needed to happen to keep killers competitive against SWFs, but if dirty play killers keep playing the same dirty ass way they have been, that puts the OTHER SIDE at a severe disadvantage, and where's the fun in that? The five minute EZ Clap is boring as fuck. Frankly, I'm open to the idea of a Repeatable Base Kit DS at gens 5-4.

  • @DarthOmix

    @DarthOmix

    Жыл бұрын

    Removing hook grabs is a terrible idea. It wouldn't help solo and would only embolden SWF, which would make killers that camp only camp harder.

  • @Evalora

    @Evalora

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DarthOmix i think you'll find this sort of rhetoric (re: survivor-biased people digging their own graves in railroading killers harder into killrushing) is super common, devs also buy into it and between white flash and massive nerfs to most of the reliable anti-gen perks it is the patch of *hard* killrushing particularly given the swf stompgroups are nastier than ever now that they have 'killer-sided patch' mentality

  • @FastLawyer
    @FastLawyer Жыл бұрын

    The solution has always been clear: increase timer on hook if killer is within 24 meters. Make grouping up auto raise your MMR significantly.

  • @theslavicrat3784

    @theslavicrat3784

    Жыл бұрын

    @Toya FF I mean you could technically make it so this is also dependent on the number of survivors close by and the number of gens left.

  • @NachozMan

    @NachozMan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theslavicrat3784 could still exploit that, but that doesn't really matter, anyone trying to "exploit" this is just throwing the game as they'd be sitting there near a hooked survivor, not doing gens, essentially letting the killer camp 2 people, making him win even more lol. So really the "exploit" would just be a noob trap.

  • @FastLawyer

    @FastLawyer

    Жыл бұрын

    @Toya FF maybe I should have worded it better, but basically the hook timer slows down only when the killer is within 24 meters ... so it would only hurt face campers

  • @FastLawyer

    @FastLawyer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NachozMan if another survivor is near hook, then the hook timer is not slowed down, only slowed when only killer is within 24 meters

  • @commentyouraddress
    @commentyouraddress Жыл бұрын

    I had to drop my favorite build, or what I called my "be my friend" build. It consisted of Plunderer's instinct- I'd go out of my way to look for chests if everyone was doing well and run around to give green or higher items as gifts to survivors, and I'd look for a chest near the end of the game if the killer was good and leave it as an offering at the gate. It also consisted of We're gonna live forever (heal downed people 100% faster), Guardian (unhooked survivors don't leave scratch marks), and finally We're gonna live forever (after I unhook I healed at 100% speed). So basically, the entire build was based around ultra altruism and it was really fun! It matched my playstyle and let me give in to my tendency to drop whatever i'm doing and go unhook, and I always felt satisfied after every match knowing I helped people so if the killer got anything less than a 2k i'd stay afterwards and let them kill me since I'd go up a rank anyways from the altruism. Unfortunately, as I mentioned, I had to drop it. I tried my best every match to be as altruistic as possible- take hits even if i was on my second hook stage, go for the save even if I was the only one injured and the only one with hooks because nobody else was coming to get them and I'd die, over and over and over and over and I was deranking myself at record speed because the only emblem I'd get was the evader emblem, and maybe altruism solely from unhooking. It felt like a chore to play with that build with the new update as everyone's personal nurse and medic, and you bet that at MOST 2 gens got done before I was dead. I had to pick up a more aggressive build, I've never used any "meta" perks before because I mained Jake when I first picked up the game and then picked up my main Yui, so I never really got to using the "meta" perks at the time. I used Unbreakable for the first time today, as well as Left Behind and other self centered perks. I felt terrible but it was nice in a way to finally get to leave. For the first time in a week. Also, I don't know if it's just me but killers have been really aggressive lately- I've gotten three facecamping doctors, 2 spirits in a row and basically endless blights who leave you on the floor to bleed out/ hit you on the hook. I miss going against literally any other killer than blight/spirit. I get nauseous when I hear blight's terror radius.

  • @NachozMan

    @NachozMan

    Жыл бұрын

    I've literally been running the Lori and Bill last survivor standing greed mode get the hatch/open exit faster perks for the first time ever because my teams are all so shit they dive bomb the hook 100 times then all die with 5 gens done without fail 50% of games.

  • @commentyouraddress

    @commentyouraddress

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@NachozMan opposite for me, absolutely nobody goes for the hook. Healthy, 0 hooks, killer is basically on a different map, they're crouching around in a corner/ walking / cleansing a dull totem and 75% of the time I get to the second hook stage on my first hook, if anyone comes to get me at all. Oh, and when they do come get you, the killer has to be standing RIGHT THERE

  • @johnathonjackson7343

    @johnathonjackson7343

    Жыл бұрын

    The reason your getting so many blight matches is because of the current rift challenges being blight centered.

  • @elmuchacho3379
    @elmuchacho3379 Жыл бұрын

    At the moment it just feels like prove thyself, circle of healing and a toolbox are absolutely necessary. I don't really mind the sped up killer actions, it's just a matter of an adjustment in timing, but gen speeds slowing down is pretty painful. I was playing in a 3 man swf and the only way we were getting gens done was pairing up to do them and one running off once a killer starts chasing.

  • @SlippFlipp

    @SlippFlipp

    Жыл бұрын

    yup. prove thyself is definitely going to be in the meta until they make changes. Thana specifically is in almost every game and is so busted especially on a Legion

  • @Veristelle-

    @Veristelle-

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SlippFlipp At max stacks, Thana 4 stacks for a full gen is barely different from before the patch, what's with people suddenly complaining about a bottom tier killer? He's always been annoying af to face, but easy enough to beat. Literally all that's changed is pre dropping and W is weaker, and gens have 10 seconds extra. You can argue thana being buffed 2% adding 1.8 seconds to each full gen at 4 stacks matters, but no. It really doesn't.

  • @dandantsm6560

    @dandantsm6560

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Veristelle- you can't just say thana makes no difference when people are feeling it and every single killer is running it :v Thanatophobia is like DH now, you see it in EVERY game, It's rare to have a match without it, and then killers pair it with anti-healing perks and addons Plus because they are faster in so many things now it feels like they interrupt gens more often

  • @GabrielR132

    @GabrielR132

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dandantsm6560 It's the increased gen times they are feeling. Thana on 80s gens at full stacks used to give a 16 second slowdown if repairing solo. On 90s gens with new thana, we have around 19.8 seconds of slowdown. So yeah it's not thana

  • @Veristelle-

    @Veristelle-

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dandantsm6560 Interrupting gens is a far stronger culprit, since people are still getting used to the DH change and chase speedups; but Thana is only being used since it's a passive slowdown, and most better regression perks were nerfed through to bottom tier perks. It was never bad, but aside from Legion (or Plague hoping for cleanses), noone used it since there was always way better options. Survivors are figuring out what works best, same as killers. Thana is still "Okay", but now that means it's generally good. Instead of Ruin for passive slowdown, people will use Thana. If they wanna kick gens, instead of Pop, Brine, Overcharge or Erruption. Before the nerfs, noone would have glanced at them, but now that better options are removed (also perks from survivors to be fair), they'll use the next best option.

  • @ruth3431
    @ruth3431 Жыл бұрын

    I haven't been able to really have fun playing DBD as survivor in months, and with the recent update It's been even more miserable. DCs, Camping, and Tunneling is more prevelant than ever imo. I was hoping the new update would breath some new life in it for me but damn I open the game and immeditely close it.

  • @Redzeths

    @Redzeths

    Жыл бұрын

    I've played over 20 survivors game since the update and I've only encountered 1 tunneller/camper (same person). As for DC's, yeah all the salty people are dcing in droves. DC's will be fixed when all those people have finally left. The only perk I think got an undeserved buff is thanatophobia. It already got a buff with longer gen speeds so I see no point in why the doubled the amount it slows down on top of that.

  • @floridamanmlb9299

    @floridamanmlb9299

    Жыл бұрын

    They buffed tunneling and camping. They buffed the most hated aspects of the game. Fuck em im out

  • @pdawe5519

    @pdawe5519

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup after playing the first match I remember why I don't enjoy the game anymore and can't wait to finish it and close the game down! Rinse and repeat the next day lol

  • @floridamanmlb9299

    @floridamanmlb9299

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pdawe5519 yeah after 4 years of the game more or less improving they drop a massive killer buff at the same time they nerf 2nd chance perks? Its funny watching killer main streamers play survivor and get totally raped but wont actually fess up to how stupid and unnecessary these extreme changes were.

  • @brettreedy9520

    @brettreedy9520

    Жыл бұрын

    @@floridamanmlb9299 You do realize this is the first Killer sided update the game has ever had right? I get that solo que is a problem rn and should be fixed to make for more interesting games as killer, but the DS nerfs and dead hard changes were much needed, they were so easy to abuse. And Off the Record basically replaced DS as the best perk in the game. Overall, survivors are overreacting for a patch that killers really needed for once and not a patch where survivors are buffed for the 1,000th time

  • @Kirochii
    @Kirochii Жыл бұрын

    "I just want a normal game" has been what I've been internally screaming. Now if I see everybody dead at 5 gens I just disconnect as well unless I'm feeling like a masochist.

  • @sharpenmysight5954
    @sharpenmysight5954 Жыл бұрын

    It’s just very demoralizing when the gens take so long on top of slow down perks and it feels like the game isn’t progressing I’d honestly just wanna get on to the next game

  • @sadneopixel7396

    @sadneopixel7396

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly if i see a thana legion or a nurse i just kill myself on hook man just get your 4k i wanna get to the next game

  • @61pts
    @61pts Жыл бұрын

    3:01 Himself said it, it’s a Nurse that got 3 down in 30 sec at 4 gens, I get that he wants to kill himself on hook

  • @emaplaying2184
    @emaplaying2184 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah for me is the same thing…and the nurse I think must be nerfed, the only chance with a good nurse is if you predict future

  • @Geralt998

    @Geralt998

    Жыл бұрын

    If you look into the future, you are only going to see yourself dying on a hook or getting slugged by a nurse 🤷

  • @emaplaying2184

    @emaplaying2184

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Geralt998 😆

  • @brodiemorris2081
    @brodiemorris2081 Жыл бұрын

    Otz saying "and then it's starstruck and 3 people go down" being immediately followed by someone going down to starstruck and then the nurse blinking directly to him and downing him sent me

  • @TheGryphonKid
    @TheGryphonKid Жыл бұрын

    For me, I'm getting give-ups while running 0 slowdown on just normal M1 killers. People just seem to throw themselves at me regardless of gamestate, I had 3 people charging my hook just after I put someone on it as an Oni with power up. It genuinely feels that, from a killer's perspective, something like 80% of players are so used to being nigh invulnerable that it doesn't even take a good build to get them to give up. I feel bad for all the survivors who are just playing the game and adapting to the new state of balance instead of going next the moment the killer looks at them.

  • @mysterywyvern7065

    @mysterywyvern7065

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank god, its not just me. 100% same experience. Playing no slowdown Doctor, or Pig, or Trapper, and survivors just DC on their first down half the time. About 60-70% of my pig games start with a gen grab and they dc after I place the trap on them. Also, survivors being really aggressive with Off the record or Decisive, and I just eat through it and down them and they'll dc as if they weren't just bodyblocking me and I had hard tunneled them out the game. Also, survivors dc'ing after misjudging distance (no more Dead Hard to fix that).

  • @NachozMan

    @NachozMan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mysterywyvern7065 Same, now that survivors can't play like fucking idiots with 100.000 free hits they just give up. Kinda pathetic. Really feels like the average survivor main's brain has been polished smooth till it can't think no more. I've played a lot of survivor since the update to try and see where they're coming from and they're all just wrong and dumb, nothing the killer does has been a problem for me, it's 100% been shitty survivors hook bombing, dieing 2 seconds into chase, not doing gens, using self care, ect and throwing the game that make this update literal hell.

  • @dukenukem531

    @dukenukem531

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s what it is. Survivors are so used to dead hard giving them so much extra time and freedom that without it they just can’t cope. I also use 4 normal perks with no gen regression on an m1 killer clown and ppl still give up.

  • @tigerbeard65

    @tigerbeard65

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s been my experience as well. Property coordinated survivors who don’t take stupid risks are still challenging to go against.

  • @Iminbrawl

    @Iminbrawl

    Жыл бұрын

    You're playing a bugged killer who gets his power three times faster than he should. It's understandable to not want to play against.

  • @n5oah
    @n5oah Жыл бұрын

    Otz is the only streamer that talks about both sides honestly and doesn’t just take everything one sided

  • @notOtzdarva

    @notOtzdarva

    Жыл бұрын

    Far from it, I think most people can agree that solo players are the ones hit the hardest by this update.

  • @matt2569

    @matt2569

    Жыл бұрын

    My internet went out during the update so I don’t have to play dbd like you guys 🗿

  • @jamesjones5023

    @jamesjones5023

    Жыл бұрын

    @@notOtzdarva you mean for the past 2 years. I don’t know anyone who plays this game anymore as a survivor. The game isn’t fun for me or my friends. Not even that even the randoms I would know we all gave the game up. I only watch you now. But this game Isn’t fun anymore

  • @dargus1718

    @dargus1718

    Жыл бұрын

    @@notOtzdarva Yeah it's not easy to play solo as killer. I agree with you. 😂

  • @DredgeMain

    @DredgeMain

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matt2569 lucky

  • @FoddyNobbler
    @FoddyNobbler Жыл бұрын

    solo survivor post-update has honestly killed this game for me to a degree. i like a lot of the changes they made with the update but it feels like solo survivors really drew the short stick on this one. i wish there was a way to communicate with your teammates in-game just to make the solo experience a tad better, especially when 4 stacks can have comms and information coming from 3 other people at all times. or maybe i just need friends. who knows.

  • @joseguilhermelugofritzen5412

    @joseguilhermelugofritzen5412

    Жыл бұрын

    Or both

  • @FoddyNobbler

    @FoddyNobbler

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joseguilhermelugofritzen5412 reply of the year tbh

  • @misterhyde408

    @misterhyde408

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah i don't know if communications alone is going to cure solo queue teammates stupidity. As long as MMR is a thing we will keep on having these guys who single handedly get their whole team killed by playing dumb or not wanting to play because they don't like a certain killer.

  • @noodleseu

    @noodleseu

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ll never understand why they just don’t add an ingame voice chat

  • @Mink_Tracks

    @Mink_Tracks

    Жыл бұрын

    Shoutout to otz for (not even 6 months ago) saying that the game is "sided" for whoever wants to play the dirtiest... Forgetting that getting a bunch of potato solos to play dirty together is nearly impossible 😑 why is it so hard to differentiate solos from premades? Even otz forgets to do it.

  • @ImNotCho
    @ImNotCho Жыл бұрын

    A big Change I’d love to see is when a Player DCs everyone else can DC without a penalty because when someone DCs at 5 gens, IT IS NOT FUN TO SWEAT AS 3 SURVIVORS ON GENS. Especially since the update gave 4 Base-kit buffs with recovery,Faster pallet breaks,Bloodlust time to active & 10 extra seconds on gens. Survivors got a Base kit buff with 5secs of safe unhook but nerfed the speed boost you get when hit Also ruin & Corrupt don’t deactivate if a player DCs. Now the changes are in good taste with 10 extra seconds on gens and perks changes were very much needed But adding the Hit recovery to being basically 2 stacks of STBFL Base-kit was pretty crazy especially since STBFL can now have a 10 Stack count Since they didn’t touch the actual perk which has 8 Stacks, having this plus the survivors reaching less distance is an insane over look in balance between killers BUT I do now the Boosted survivors MMR is going to go down and I pray that means I finally get teammates who don’t cry and give up on first hook at 3-5 Gens or DC and they also won’t be going down in 20-30 seconds because I still loop for 2-3 Gens EVERY GAME (No matter the killer) however it is made worthless if my team goes down in 20secs or were not on Gens which is a Sad Fact in solo Q. I run Dead hard which is being slept on so hard rn 130 time successful with only 10 Fails & boon healing for my team to have no reason not to be healed the other two perks i have chest perks for farming (Im a horder) so no i don’t use 4 meta perks.I play This game solo and Just Vibe because if you go in solo q to be a “Comp” player you’re probably gonna be a little frustrated just saying, And when people decide this their normally the ones who give up on hook and Are Quick to DC.Now very long comment I would like for Debates I play both killer and survivor for 2HRs each a day so with debating plz don’t be biased

  • @Vasiliy9hells

    @Vasiliy9hells

    Жыл бұрын

    Why am i feeling that your "loop for 2-3 Gens EVERY GAME" is a dumb Shift+W with predrop of every pallet on a map. You waste all pallets without consideration and then cry that you teammates go down fast. Ofc they are, you wasted every resource on yourself lol

  • @PlushLordOfTheSeas

    @PlushLordOfTheSeas

    Жыл бұрын

    Suicide on hook isn't a DC, and honestly I don't blame people sometimes, especially if you're hanging there watching your whole team sit on gens while you're left to die I'd say screw it and try to kobe off the thing too, and if it didn't work, oh well next game it is. SWFs will almost always leave you hanging for your entire hook duration and struggle duration if you're a soloQ just to do gens and get themselves out, honestly they should just remove SWF from the game, then they'd have a better time balancing survs.

  • @ImNotCho

    @ImNotCho

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Vasiliy9hells Actually Im a greedy Bitch and will go down Rather than Use Shack Also Im Smart enough to loop the killer Around Corrupted Gens Meaning my Team Mates are Doing unblocked gens I fully Block windows Until dropping a pallet Now Question why Are we Talking about me And not the Game You know the Whole Point? Also I Die In order for the rest of my Team to Escape Because I do not Care About Escaping I C are about At least majority Escaping

  • @SaveMeXenu

    @SaveMeXenu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlushLordOfTheSeas Remove SWF and Nurse and the game gets better for both sides. But on another note, if you're hooked and your teammates are doing gens, that's great. Did you stop to consider that maybe they know the timing on saving you?

  • @ImNotCho

    @ImNotCho

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PlushLordOfTheSeas The thing with Removing SWFs Though I agree they Can be Really Strong is DBD is a Game And every Developer Wants more people to play and How you may ask to get more people? Well They invite their Friends Which adds to the community. Now to the Point of Giving up on hook You can play the game how you like HOWEVER You Being Selfish and Straight Up quitting which is giving the Opposing side leverage and Also Ruining Other Experience Now should you Care? No its Up for you to decide I like to imagine My teammates are my Friends Until theres a Not so happy person who Dcs or Gives up Because then They aren't helping Us They're helping the killer. Also I dont really Sweat over that tbh I would Just like to Dc without a penalty if someone Else DCs because it is them Ruining the Match for all parties as I stated the Reasoning before

  • @HB.Talks.
    @HB.Talks. Жыл бұрын

    the anti tunneling 5 second BT is nothing to a nurse, blight, or anyone that has a couple stacks of save the best for last😂

  • @SwiftNinjask
    @SwiftNinjask Жыл бұрын

    That Nurse at the end was a real piece of work. I can see why everyone hates them.

  • @pail225

    @pail225

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's be real, that was much more 'that player' than it being a nurse

  • @ArtfulCrapbag

    @ArtfulCrapbag

    Жыл бұрын

    ive been getting a lot of killers that slug until the bleed out for the 4k, its like their pc will light on fire if they don’t get all the kills

  • @matthewroman6807

    @matthewroman6807

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtfulCrapbag so have i!

  • @eliaswells4537

    @eliaswells4537

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pail225 no it was a nurse they’re all like that

  • @DiablitoKawaii

    @DiablitoKawaii

    Жыл бұрын

    Cuz they play like dogshit lmao

  • @11Taneka
    @11Taneka Жыл бұрын

    I made a comment about my solo experience in a dbd group. I got attacked for saying the new update had no consideration for solo 😂

  • @dumblenutz5561

    @dumblenutz5561

    Жыл бұрын

    Average dbd social media interaction

  • @MuckyduckMel

    @MuckyduckMel

    Жыл бұрын

    Power perk running sweaty team players that's why. Its fanboys like them that create the toxic air that ultimately kills the game.

  • @christemple2774
    @christemple2774 Жыл бұрын

    Otz thank you so much for posting this video this has been the majority of my solo queue games since the update it’s painful. We also have a swf of 3 and we still get wrecked even with coms don’t know how much longer we can put up with this game it’s not enjoyable anymore.

  • @jakegates5158
    @jakegates5158 Жыл бұрын

    I think there is definitely something to be said with Nurse being bad for the game. When someone is a peak nurse there is literally no counterplay. She breaks perks that are perfectly balanced for everyone else, and destroys map design as a concept. She needs a complete redesign.

  • @ArtfulCrapbag

    @ArtfulCrapbag

    Жыл бұрын

    i don’t think she needs a full rework but its messed up how oppressive her add ons are and her blink hits should not be able to insta down survivors

  • @LouisLixes

    @LouisLixes

    Жыл бұрын

    It doesn't matter the map, it's always a plain land to nurse, and with her "no cooldown" blinks it practically fly to anywhere the player wants. Most op killer ever.

  • @memer7987

    @memer7987

    Жыл бұрын

    So what you're saying is... Shes perfect for DBD!

  • @horselessheadman4921

    @horselessheadman4921

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I agree she is perfect for the game, especially against the 4 man swf "ez" squads that always bm at gates. Nurse is the great equalizer when played to full potential, infact shes the ONLY equalizer against said opponents, and anyone that disagrees with that is either one of them players or doesn't play at a high enough level to see it. However, against a team with a couple of solos in it I can see how she can be overly oppressive in the right hands.

  • @lucasmitchell9027

    @lucasmitchell9027

    Жыл бұрын

    She needs to have like 45 seconds cooldown or her skill and normal movement speed. Being able to constantly blink around is the most toxic part of her kit. If instead if were something that only happens every once in a while, there would be much more weight on how you blink, and much more reward on dodging those blinks as Surv. Right now you can just blink to move around the map and even if a survivor dodges your blinks you can go at it again in like 10 seconds.

  • @VincentTheMediocreYT
    @VincentTheMediocreYT Жыл бұрын

    I mostly play Survivor, I always have, and 9.9/10, it’s solo. I have very few friends who have DBD, and following this update, it’s gotten far worse trying to make it through without DCs, people giving up, and sometimes farming. The update is nice and all, but as someone who exclusively plays solo survivor, it’s very challenging to play with the current state we are in.

  • @NachozMan

    @NachozMan

    Жыл бұрын

    I've played a bit more surv than normal this update to try and see where all the complaints are coming from, and my deduction that it has nothing to do with the killer/perk changes and everything to do with the fact almost every game without fail my Survivor teammates are so brain dead it's like I'm playing with dodo birds.

  • @ShadowsVale

    @ShadowsVale

    Жыл бұрын

    I've been playing other games as of late. Evil Dead and VHS are both a fair bit of fun, and I can actually get my friends to play them. None of my friends enjoy DBD and rarely can I get them to play. This update has been hell for SoloQ

  • @crisant.
    @crisant. Жыл бұрын

    after looking for a long time I finally found the causation, they've also wrote they *tremendously reduced the usefulness of your teammates*

  • @santiagochavez5449
    @santiagochavez5449 Жыл бұрын

    you can tell survivor morale is on the ground when a legion getting a 5th hit down at the start of the match causes 2 dcs and the other 2 to just stand still till they get killed

  • @tylerwroblewski2716
    @tylerwroblewski2716 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I've been struggling with this a ton in solo queue as it seems like the majority of my games is just facing extremely strong builds on like nurse, blight, etc and my teammates just give up at 4 gens or do nothing and get destroyed every game.

  • @ethan1969
    @ethan1969 Жыл бұрын

    It’s refreshing to see the power roles inverted a bit. I just kinda wish they’d address the camping issues, it’s making survivors games very frustrating, for me at least.

  • @kiraflo98

    @kiraflo98

    Жыл бұрын

    I always love the "power role" argument. The only power role was SWF. Solo Queue has never been the power role. And a killer always had the option to get at least 1 kill when they played scummy

  • @closotezuka

    @closotezuka

    Жыл бұрын

    Killer has always been the power role. And they still cry. Cope.

  • @breadaholic6445

    @breadaholic6445

    Жыл бұрын

    @@closotezuka against anyone in a swf or bully squad? doubt

  • @deliriouszora

    @deliriouszora

    Жыл бұрын

    @@closotezuka not really, even in games where I was solo queue, and my team destroyed a killer, that wasn't even that bad, they knew the loops, and mind games, even had ruin and pop, and still lost because we were just faster on gens.

  • @closotezuka

    @closotezuka

    Жыл бұрын

    @@breadaholic6445 bully squads are literally the freest win if you actually try hard. 3 people constantly off gens trying to head on stun you or flashlight save? I’ll take that over a bunch of gen rushing idiots who don’t know the definition of fun

  • @idktbh14
    @idktbh14 Жыл бұрын

    I bet it has a great personality

  • @aquila519
    @aquila519 Жыл бұрын

    What I've realized in solo queue is that now more than ever, you HAVE to play selfishly to ensure your own escape. This update really has made solo queue abysmal. I usually like play altruistic and help my teammates escape so they feel like they had fun too, but ever since this update, it's been impossible. I've had to play so selfishly and it honestly kinda sucks. Btw, I understand why those guys gave up at the end. Those types of nurses aren't fun to go against at all especially if you just wanna dick around. I would just rather get myself out of the game as quickly as possible lol.

  • @nolives

    @nolives

    Жыл бұрын

    I can survive selfishly but honeslty its boring and not rewarding when I escape.

  • @aquila519

    @aquila519

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nolives exactly my point. It's so boring and isn't fun. I don't play much solo queue anyways since I'm always playing with friends, but every now and then I play solo to grind and it's awful lmao.

  • @jimskeuh

    @jimskeuh

    Жыл бұрын

    they stupid ass lazy devs don't know how to make their game fun. one can only hope this game dies off soon, which will happen if they don't make solo survivors fun and fair again.

  • @aquila519

    @aquila519

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimskeuh solo survivor has never been fun or fair tbh. It's just even worse now. I would say keep your head up. This update is def a huge step in the right direction and I think the devs will eventually do something to make solo better

  • @LightWavess

    @LightWavess

    Жыл бұрын

    Nurses were always garbage to go against, either they're Gods who never miss their blink instadowning people around with Starstruck or she can't do anything and the game is just boring, there's rarely in between.

  • @nolives
    @nolives Жыл бұрын

    Before update I rarely ever saw disconnects or suicide on hooks. And most of the time they were either new and didnt know they were suiciding on hook or we were winning and someone DCed I assumed out of a actual system crash. Now after update at least 2 out 4 of my teamates are DCing or suiciding on hook. And I dont blame them, byt the time theyre doing that its usually an apparent loss where the killer is snowballing.

  • @OhTheEzekiel
    @OhTheEzekiel Жыл бұрын

    I yelled "What are you doing!?" at the same time as Otz when I saw the survivor just standing there next to the hooked survivor as the nurse was in her 12-second blink and swing recovery animation.

  • @kerruo2631
    @kerruo2631 Жыл бұрын

    After years of maining killer I've finally tried playing survivor and man...it's not fun. I've had no idea that camping was actually so common.

  • @Acemy314

    @Acemy314

    Жыл бұрын

    This is why everyone should play both sides. Both killers and survivors. You learn a lot about the other side. Both in a good and bad way. Both sides can be toxic as f.

  • @nickburose8286

    @nickburose8286

    Жыл бұрын

    Your survivor mmr is not the same as your killer mmr. Low mmr games are full of people hook farming and killers who have no idea what they are doing

  • @TheNathon11
    @TheNathon11 Жыл бұрын

    That last play against the Nurse was hilarious, her blocking the gate and you lured her away just to go back and open, what a great a escape 🤣

  • @kanalover4ever
    @kanalover4ever Жыл бұрын

    I'm fairly "new" to the game and I just can say that I've experienced more dc's since the patch, the changes are good but only for low tier killers, the meta ones just got even stronger

  • @gutsxplayboicarti5443

    @gutsxplayboicarti5443

    Жыл бұрын

    Survivors don't have 30+ second chances in a game and decide it's no longer fun LMAO

  • @kanalover4ever

    @kanalover4ever

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't get me wrong dude, I'm a killer main lol, but the soloq experience with the new patch has become a kinda bad thing cuz the second chances were something to at least buy some time in compensation 4 no organization with the other survivors Still I think against swf the changes are good and fair

  • @btsaristan1432

    @btsaristan1432

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gutsxplayboicarti5443 killers have second chances too also the whole point of a perk is to give u an advantage in the game an advantage is like a second chance use ur brains

  • @jeremiahbriney4899

    @jeremiahbriney4899

    Жыл бұрын

    Has anyone experienced where the character you play as only one of their perks appear in the bloodweb? I've used Felix and yoichi and only one of their perks appear in the bloodweb. While the others never show up. I even got Felix to prestige 1 and his other perks never appeared even once.

  • @gutsxplayboicarti5443

    @gutsxplayboicarti5443

    Жыл бұрын

    @@btsaristan1432 you're most definitely fucking silver shhh

  • @crowmouth69
    @crowmouth69 Жыл бұрын

    i only started playing dbd right when the dredge chapter dropped, almost entirely as a solo survivor. before this update i clocked about 75 hours in the game in just about a month, enough to get a grasp on the game and community. but man, this update has basically made me stop playing the game ahaha my MMR has dropped so insanely from my teammates giving up and getting me killed. i only get either completely new players with only 1 or 2 hours in the game, or people who constantly give up at the slightest inconvenience. i probably wont be picking the game back up again until the dust settles a bit, its really not fun.

  • @shaqaylaconnor3996

    @shaqaylaconnor3996

    Жыл бұрын

    If you ever wanna swf lemme know homie :)

  • @coolman129921

    @coolman129921

    Жыл бұрын

    so true lol but that does make some easy adepts as killer

  • @Jilldo

    @Jilldo

    Жыл бұрын

    Good idea. I wouldnt waste your time on it honestly. Ive got friends who played for 4k hours, myself and a few others around 3k and everyone has quit it. Even SWF doesnt help much against tunneling and camping tbh, and regardless the game is dull.

  • @crowmouth69

    @crowmouth69

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shaqaylaconnor3996 omg thats so sweet!! i worry tho that it might be just that im bad at the game haha so you probably wouldn’t wanna play with me :) but thank you!!

  • @crowmouth69

    @crowmouth69

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jilldo i’ll probably come back eventually! personally i don’t really care about winning, i just play cuz i like a fun game. but i think people are still adjusting to the update and getting frustrated so easily with it that i barely get to actually PLAY before we lose. so id love to come back to it once the meta settles, or some more tweaks are added to satisfy everyone. im still new enough go the game that i dont think it’ll be “dull” for me any time soon! i just want to play games that last longer than 5 minutes ahahah

  • @sliceofbread3829
    @sliceofbread3829 Жыл бұрын

    I deinstalled the game. Solo is unplayable with facecamp winning, 2 teammate doing multiple random chests and totems and not do a single gen while I got 3 done alone and some david was pro and ran for the whole time vs the clown (heared by his screams). my friend is offline for at least 3 Months and I can't take more random matches like that. good luck everyone else!

  • @HoLeeSheet117

    @HoLeeSheet117

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here bud. Not cause of survivor soloQ (which is one of the reasons i uninstalled), but playing as a killer is just so boring and not rewarding anymore.

  • @PlushLordOfTheSeas
    @PlushLordOfTheSeas Жыл бұрын

    Honestly I think 50% of the time the tome's probably the only reason your survivor teammate is there. I know I don't play survivor unless I'm doing tome challenges, and I'm not there to "win" I'm there to complete whatever absurd challenge the devs thought up. If they'd just make all challenges survivor OR killer you'd probably be having better games.

  • @RedSpade37

    @RedSpade37

    Жыл бұрын

    Right? I agree 100% with your last point. Also, I love your pfp!

  • @Unlogo

    @Unlogo

    Жыл бұрын

    The Tome Challenges are literally breaking the game. You mostly have 1 teammate that needs to cleanse totems or hide from the killer or some bullshit. I think there should just be more modes to choose from, for example casual and serious game mode. So you can do challenges in casual and win in serious.

  • @josetomascamposrobledano4618
    @josetomascamposrobledano4618 Жыл бұрын

    7:57 my favorite part by far 🤣. Ruin went from the strongest perk in the game forcing people to master skill checks to a literal joke. Literally no need to leave gens to search for it now.

  • @baddabing4494
    @baddabing4494 Жыл бұрын

    I think Nurse should only have one blink equal to the total potential distance of two, but with a scaling cooldown. That way, she can't correct positioning and has to commit to a single blink AND suffer the cooldown while retaining her gameplay style. It would turn her into a more precision-requiring killer and survivors have a miniature grace period after a blink to correct their pathing for optimal chases.

  • @Boatboy_

    @Boatboy_

    Жыл бұрын

    At this point if she ever is to be a balanced killer who doesnt ignore the chase mechanics then she needs a rework but i doubt that would ever happen because it would cause uproar, especially since everyone is playing her now upon realising that she is not as hard as she seems. I think we are just going to have to accept that nurse is that one killer who is usually just always going to win against you if you are solo.

  • @amaterasu3099

    @amaterasu3099

    Жыл бұрын

    And that would make her an actual high risk high reward killer, unlike what people are trying to make her rn. She's not hard to play

  • @liviubostan7229

    @liviubostan7229

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah...no more chances for her. Nurse needs to be disabled until a rework is done. If they can't find one REMOVE Nurse.

  • @deathbringer9893

    @deathbringer9893

    Жыл бұрын

    @@liviubostan7229 good thing devs said they will never remove a killer

  • @deathbringer9893

    @deathbringer9893

    Жыл бұрын

    then she needs alot of other changes such as making it so that you can cancle,movement speed to that of a huntress and i think thats all

  • @RostTV
    @RostTV Жыл бұрын

    I feel like the tunnel/camping /sluging got to a new level after the last patch...

  • @nolives

    @nolives

    Жыл бұрын

    Ive seen more slugs in dbd atter update and its the only thing thatll make me be toxic to a killer. I dont like tunneling or camping but slugging is just the lowest of the low.

  • @anettelma123

    @anettelma123

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yes. Imagine not using DH and DS and now started use DS and lithe, and still dying in half time quickly than before. I also took back in my build BT because now its the only protection from tunnel and in the endgame (Off the record isnt working then, the same DS, only BT could save you ass).

  • @loughtthenot
    @loughtthenot Жыл бұрын

    It's literally just the mindset of survivors. So many have just given up if the early game doesn't go well for them. It's actually crazy, the one time killers get a straight buff and deadhard is removed suddenly people who crutched super hard on second chance perks can't play the game unless it's a baby killer. Weird.

  • @andyandnormski

    @andyandnormski

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm running into that so much. I main ghostface, Michael and huntress, and I've been trying out demo. The sheer amount of survivors who give up after you find them for the first time has gone up a lot. That many of them relied on the meta perks??

  • @adaminflux

    @adaminflux

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andyandnormski well when you see them again go out of your way to avoid them? Or chase some but down quickly down them? Or just hit them once and look for another survivor. If you’re upset people are giving up then do what you can to keep them in the game longer. You don’t hafta slug for a 4K.

  • @brosef5033

    @brosef5033

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andyandnormski nah it’s not because of the perk changes, it’s because killers are playing scummy and it’s basically expected that every killer is gonna play scummy. You have to realize to that yea dh got a nerf and a very fair nerf but at the same time they buffed chase for killer. Quicker bloodlust, less distance when survivors get hit, quicker palette breaking… even if survivors have exhaustion perk they only get to use them once per chase. Survivors can’t stack exhustion perks like killers gen stack gen regression perks and that seems to be what all killers are doing now. They don’t need any chase perks because chases are just easy for them now.

  • @loughtthenot

    @loughtthenot

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brosef5033 Killers play scummy by... running perks? What new survivor rule book shit is this??? Jesus dude the amount of time killers are saving is fractions of a second and suddenly you can't loop killers because you can't have multiple exhaustion perks at once??? Blood lust isn't quicker, just the higher tiers. You act like killers wern't running lots of slowdown perks before this update, the only thing that has changed is 10 seconds on gens and 2% extra slow on 4 stacks of thana. This update is great because it makes survivors actually have to use their brains, as well as making the killer actually feel like a threat, both of which are apparently too much for teammates in solo que...

  • @TheLibraryofLeah
    @TheLibraryofLeah Жыл бұрын

    As a solo-survivor I appreciate you making this video, it's literally been most of my experiences since the new update and it sucks. I don't even know why killers are doing this, like they got buff in the patch so why are they slugging so much. I have always said that I understand camping/tunneling/slugging as a strategy but this slugging just feels different- feels more like a power play and I hate it as its not doing the killers or survivors any better. They need to make unbreakable base kit (one time) then change unbreakable to unlimited times as that would just bring it up to Jonahs perk Boon: Exponential.

  • @joshyrew22

    @joshyrew22

    Жыл бұрын

    Of about 20 - I've had three games where killers run star/infectious/agitation, slug4 then don't even pick people up and just dance on our bodies. Killers got control and are power tripping for sure.

  • @SaveMeXenu

    @SaveMeXenu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshyrew22 Yeah it's really great after being the survivors' bitch for so long. Nice little poetic justice for the ridiculously toxic survivor mains out there.

  • @chubthealmighty

    @chubthealmighty

    Жыл бұрын

    As killer, the only reason I have to slug is bully squads but that's about it. If the survivors are gen focused I don't usually have to play as hard, I've even had a team or two finish the gens...they didn't escape though.

  • @PRINCENARCISSIST

    @PRINCENARCISSIST

    Жыл бұрын

    You got your wish but better

  • @MasterDracer
    @MasterDracer Жыл бұрын

    Otz you should definitely make more and longer videos like this (solo survivor experience) it's so freaking funny I can't anymore :D

  • @jun528
    @jun528 Жыл бұрын

    I rarely play swf with 4 people. I usually play with 1 or 2 friends and games are still so frustrating

  • @ltypeoni2268
    @ltypeoni2268 Жыл бұрын

    I want Otz to do a video where he goes over his dbd stats on a Stat tracking website. I think it'd be insane to see some of stats

  • @BiggestBayonettaFan
    @BiggestBayonettaFan Жыл бұрын

    Genuinely the main reason I’ve had a hard time playing survivor recently is because people just give up. They kill themselves on hook or just don’t do gens. It’s really unfortunate

  • @ghostbride8718
    @ghostbride8718 Жыл бұрын

    I love watching Otzdarva play, but since the MMR update i really, really think of nothing good of this game, and I always ALWAYS wonder how can Otz keep playing this.

  • @AvlidaPower

    @AvlidaPower

    Жыл бұрын

    He gets paid truckloads of money,like actually a lot, to play this game.It's his job.

  • @jimskeuh

    @jimskeuh

    Жыл бұрын

    well duh, he gets insane money for doing nothing.

  • @roccoon9892

    @roccoon9892

    Жыл бұрын

    Literally!!! This game drains me of my emotions after, what, 4 matches? I become so exhausted that I switch to another game, or turnoff my console and go watch a movie or something. Which is weird, cuz I usually play games for so many hours (7-8h) but with dbd, my max is 2-3h.

  • @NeoCreo1

    @NeoCreo1

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been playing much more survivor and having a total blast. Much less stressful than killer. You guys sweat way too much I feel

  • @hbombdaboss97

    @hbombdaboss97

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimskeuh does he actually? Like how much money?

  • @lonelylumine1134
    @lonelylumine1134 Жыл бұрын

    “If you’re not under a pallet and you go down, even with a flashlight, I’m not sticking around” -Otz

  • @joshmattingly8056
    @joshmattingly8056 Жыл бұрын

    I think a great way to unsalt a lot of players is simple thus: If someone dcs within a certain time frame of the start of the match, it resets. Everyone still there goes back to lobby and it matchmakes the missing dcer. Whether that be killer or more likely, survivor. It would make such a huge difference. People that wanna dc, go for it. It eliminates everyone else getting punished. If you dc too often however, you get sent to time out. I don't mean ban, I mean you HAVE to spectate an entire match or you can't play.

  • @RachieEdits
    @RachieEdits Жыл бұрын

    Hey Otz love ur vids! Will you be doing the new meta changes for killer?

  • @Moosenogger
    @Moosenogger Жыл бұрын

    I’m not sure if it’s because of rank reset, people not recognizing non-meta perks, or people assuming all survivors are refusing to play properly, but I’ve had a lot of people get mad when I refuse a heal and instead jump in a locker with Inner Strength. I had one person open the locker to let the killer know I was in there just as I healed. I think they realized what happened afterward because they tried to help me later (I guess as an apology), but still, I was annoyed.

  • @pixeldemon6173

    @pixeldemon6173

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, I've had a Nancy (of ALL the survivors) spam the locker when I had IS. I've just given up on teamwork, so now I run IS, deliverance, flip flop and tenacity.

  • @nolives

    @nolives

    Жыл бұрын

    Tbh people focus way too hard on heals. Like if youre not dead on hook most times healing is just wasting time.

  • @pixeldemon6173

    @pixeldemon6173

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nolives agreed. Either dead on hook or the gates are open.

  • @viciousgamer0619
    @viciousgamer0619 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been actually super lucky finding good solo queues. People for the most part have been looping/doing gens. I do get one match in a while that we get a second killer

  • @MsSimon247
    @MsSimon247 Жыл бұрын

    Are you planning on making an updated version of "the best build for every killer" video? I'm really looking forward to it

  • @danielh1989
    @danielh1989 Жыл бұрын

    I can relate so much :( many of the games recently have a DC or people killing on the hook, it’s annoying :(

  • @PeachiBuns
    @PeachiBuns Жыл бұрын

    I just feel like if they are going to build the game around the SWF dynamic they really need to add in game chat. I really don't know why they are so stuck on not letting us talk to each other, the game has evolved past that idea-WAY beyond

  • @gabrielyadid2876
    @gabrielyadid2876 Жыл бұрын

    worst thing ever is when you have a good, long chase at the start of the game and when you go down you think, "that was good, that was enough time for at least 2 gens to be close to done" ...and then you see the other 3 survivors doing fuck all

  • @lanakat

    @lanakat

    Жыл бұрын

    This has happened to me a million times it’s literally so frustrating i usually just lose my will to play after that

  • @gabrielyadid2876

    @gabrielyadid2876

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lanakat yeah and its like, i'm still trying to play at 100% after i get unhooked, but if the killer hard tunnels me afterwards or another survivor gives up on hook at 4 gens its like. man

  • @josemedina1805
    @josemedina1805 Жыл бұрын

    I can feel your frustration on that survivor giving up on first hook, but when everyone is against the ropes vs. a broken killer with a broken build, can you really blame them for not wanting to kid themselves and think there is a chance to come back? That survivor knew only one person could've made it out at that point in the match.

  • @leonthegamer2839

    @leonthegamer2839

    Жыл бұрын

    True usually I hate people who quit but right now I actually can understand it. I played 10 games with a friend and we had 7 nurses and 3 blights and all games were horrible. Going against nurses before the update was horrible enough but now you might go against a hacker as well with Zero chance. Always the same kind of add ons and perks. At some point people are just feed up and decide to quit. If its not a nurse its a blight if its not a blight its a spirit with mother daughter ring, if its not that its a camping bubba or a plague which can turn gentime into years. Especially for people who wanna play in a chilled way to have some fun its literally horrible. The update is actually mostly good but they needed to address soo much other stuff before bringing this update live!

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    meme build (broken build) ok

  • @josemedina1805

    @josemedina1805

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight Starstruck + Nurse = not broken, right?

  • @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    @SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight

    Жыл бұрын

    @@josemedina1805 Starstruck and every perk that applies exposed effect are indeed very strong but broken? Is it hard to avoid TR after you get exposed once? Yeah in soloq indeed it is hard, but a team can easily counter that perk making it worthless. But there are lots of perks and addons that are broken against soloq, devs already nerfed tinkerer into useless garbage though that perk is only good against soloq. But overall it was a meme build even though the player sweats. Also broken killer yeah sure. It was almost average Nurse and Otz had really useless teammates, they would've been stomped even by Nemy or Huntress anyway.

  • @HaleyJeanASMR

    @HaleyJeanASMR

    Жыл бұрын

    agree. i wouldn’t wanna go against a starstruck + infectious nurse slugging at 5 gens either 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @Chosen1up
    @Chosen1up Жыл бұрын

    I not only tend to get dcs every game now, but killers (blights and nurses especially) who exclusively camp and tunnel. It’s really frustrating having to expect one or both outcomes every solo game now which is a shame because I actually really like this update.

  • @bloxer9563
    @bloxer9563 Жыл бұрын

    It's weird how matchmaking incentives boosted survivor queues so much, and then got disabled.

  • @Hi-sy2ql

    @Hi-sy2ql

    Жыл бұрын

    They got disabled cuz they were bugged they posted abt it on twitter thats y u get 50000 when u log in till they fix it :)

  • @soubhiksinha6391
    @soubhiksinha6391 Жыл бұрын

    I am not playing anymore

  • @hbombdaboss97
    @hbombdaboss97 Жыл бұрын

    BHVR logic: “we’ve heard your complaints about camping, tunneling, and nurse’s broken addons so in an effort to fix that we have removed deadhard and destroyed decisive strike”

  • @matus19971
    @matus19971 Жыл бұрын

    That ending was so satisfying to watch. Seeing a Nurse play herself that hard.

  • @blueboy1958
    @blueboy1958 Жыл бұрын

    I can totally understand wanting to just suicide against a Nurse. Every single nurse out there is just running full exposed/tracking builds and tryharding the game so badly that you'd think their entire family would be killed if they didn't 4k. Usually against SoloQ lobbies with people wanting to do the newly opened archives, running off-meta builds and trying out new stuff. It's insufferable

  • @badkid5557

    @badkid5557

    Жыл бұрын

    NOBODY wants to play against a Starstruck/Agi Nurse with Kavanagh’s/Fragile Wheeze.

  • @grifffourn8200

    @grifffourn8200

    Жыл бұрын

    They put Dead Hard in the dirt, and it was the right decision. Time to put Nurse in the dirt right next to it.

  • @p.n__

    @p.n__

    Жыл бұрын

    It's okay that she's busted though because playing her is obviously as difficult as being a brain surgeon.

  • @SMSAceofSpades

    @SMSAceofSpades

    Жыл бұрын

    Complains about builds that only works if survivors make mistakes like in these games and don’t split up. Especially seeing how big maps are like ormond

  • @shaxmc9646

    @shaxmc9646

    Жыл бұрын

    crybaby

  • @orpze
    @orpze Жыл бұрын

    I like how most of the problem is literally bad teammates. Nothing more annoying than teammates not doing gens and killing themselves on first hook smh.

  • @emeraldpiggy5948

    @emeraldpiggy5948

    Жыл бұрын

    I think being left to go to second stage is by far the most annoying

  • @wilsonwailord3704
    @wilsonwailord3704 Жыл бұрын

    I love seeing you plays Kate’s historia skin, even if it’s just moments. Would love to see more!

  • @Polomance862

    @Polomance862

    Жыл бұрын

    Breaking Kate's Historia Outfit is one of my favorites since the combinations are really good. Pants and brown hair is VERY GOOD.

  • @driftingdruid
    @driftingdruid Жыл бұрын

    any tips on completing the botany knowledge + medkit challenge in the first tome, post 6.1 update?

  • @emfromthechi
    @emfromthechi Жыл бұрын

    Otz calling survivors scumbags for killing themselves on hook but won't get crucified like Matthew Santoro 🤣

  • @MrAKJUICY

    @MrAKJUICY

    Жыл бұрын

    Not even comparable.

  • @emfromthechi

    @emfromthechi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrAKJUICY how is it not? He literally did the same thing and got shit on for it

  • @Polomance862

    @Polomance862

    Жыл бұрын

    @@emfromthechi I think the problem was that Matthew fixated on people. Letting ti carry into other games, and false reporting them for the smallest infraction. Calling someone a scumbag or then trying your damnedest to be petty is different.

  • @Skynet5885
    @Skynet5885 Жыл бұрын

    I just play Lisa Garland with botany, empathy, aftercare and we're gonna live forever. Seems to help keep other solos in the game and help them decide what to do, more easily, when they know if someone's on a gen, going for the save, where to get heals and so on. Still can't do much for people that just give up instntly tho, but it might help with coordonation/longevity for the others.

  • @theward0ctor974
    @theward0ctor974 Жыл бұрын

    I had 2 matches yesterday while running open handed kindred with a facecamping bubba. I proceeded to watch 2 teammates sit near when i got hooked while the last guy did totems in the corner. Kindred is by far the best killer perk in the game confirmed

  • @UmiGamez
    @UmiGamez Жыл бұрын

    I learned some important dbd tips today. 8:25 - info on when to cleanse hex totems. useful for new players or whoever needs it

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