Want more content from Cultish? Sign up for Apologia All Access for that, and more! Click the link for more info. ean.link/bahnsenu

Thank you for bringing this history to light! Ministries like Bethel (Redding) and IHOP (KC) have Pied Pipered their way into EVERYTHING! Their methods of drawing in youth and young adults would be excellent source material for any secular marketing class 😕. I spent a few too many years riding the waves of these teachings - and over time I took notice of a cyclical pattern emerging with these and other “prophetic” ministries. Same “words” year after year, season after season. God was ALWAYS doing a “New Thing” 🙄 - this mysterious revelation or impartation of a season greater than the one previous. This 5 part series - while only scratching the surface - gave TREMENDOUS insight to the roots of these ministries teaching another gospel. They have bought in to a distorted history of “God’s Generals” believing that it is truth - and built doctrinal lies and heresy around it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!! Also, more please!!! 😁

Very interesting, especially the connection with Jim Jones. Im from Indianapolis and apparently my great grandfather once preached at his church in the early days and according to my grandfather he cut ties with him even prior to moving to California. My grandparents knew people who died in Jonestown, they have stories of running into their family members around town after 1978, weeping for their lost loved ones...chilling. In addition, we know a guy who grew up next door to Jim Jones and he apparently had monkeys that would sometimes get loose...? Another part that I really appreciated learning about was about Latter Rain and William Branham and others who have greatly influenced today's hypercharasmatic movement and faith healers.

@NewsHistorian

Жыл бұрын

The Cordells and Touchettes were a couple of the big families deeply involved in Peoples Temple in Indiana.

I loved this series! I've always wanted to know the history of pentacostalism. I am interested in how new age is creeping into the church along with charismatic. Collins is a great guest!

@mybeardlovesbeer

2 жыл бұрын

This isn't the history of Pentecostalism. This is the history of some cults that arose out of the Pentecostal movement. There were a number of bad technologies that sprang out of it but it's not the history if real Pentecostal Christians.

Thank you for this series; as a former Message believer I learned alot of the history of WMB that I'd never heard before. Would have loved to have had another episode that discussed his heretical theology in more detain as well as his prophesies that never came to pass.

@eagleeyes6642

Жыл бұрын

22 Now, my subject this morning, I trust that God will reveal this. And each time, if you who take the tapes and listen, and I hope and trust that-that you have had a spiritual understanding of what that God has been trying to get over to the Church without saying it right out. See? It’s a thing, sometime, we have to say things in such a way that it might thin down, it might bring some to go out, some to leave, and some to-to-to ponder over. But that’s done purposely. It must be done that way. 23 Then it might be that some would say, “You mean God would purposely do a thing like that?” He certainly did. He does yet. 64-0614M - The Unveiling Of God Rev. William Marrion Branham

@bonniebarlow4939

Жыл бұрын

@@eagleeyes6642 Brainwashing you. Shhhh, it's a secret, you're special. You can't confirm anything, just believe what they tell you.

@joshuawoodin

10 ай бұрын

Hello my friend I know someone that says he studied William brahnam since 2013, and says he was a prophet. What can I say to him to convince him he was a monster and not a prophet ?

@gilbertotoledo1421

4 ай бұрын

​@@joshuawoodin Not much you can say. Most of these people are brainwashed and anything you can say only feeds their confirmation bias. They only believe William Branham's accounts of his own life and not what history and reserach reveal. The doubt has to rise from within themselves.

🍁”Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the LORD, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.”Isaiah 55:7

Pragmatism guiding church leadership 💔…we lived next door to a Brahman Church near Jeffersonville IN… I had never heard of this ministry before. Huge church

Did anyone else go and purchase his book once they'd seen the interviews?

Pretty definitive finale. Well done guys. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@eagleeyes6642

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Man, this series has been great! I grew up in the charismatic church, now I am Reformed Baptist (1689 all the way!). One of the things that I didn't release was how much of what I was in when I was younger was effectively based in cultic stuff. I never heard William Branhams name mentioned but boy did I experience similar things to the way he would run his "healing services". Pretty crazy stuff!

@eagleeyes6642

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/eK2tk82Tdqvef5s.html

That was an intense series. I appreciate all your work.

Ive listened to all of these but really find it hard to follow, may need to go back and listen again but my mind just seems to wander everytime I try to listen to this🤷🏻‍♀️

@calebshepherd8480

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this one is just not doing it for me lol.

Very interesting. My husband pulled up the recording of Jonestown's last day as we have only recently learned where the phrase 'drinking the koolaid' came from. Horrible to listen to.

If you have Netflix, they are showing a docu-series called Colonia Dignidad, about a commune in Chile that had ties with the Branham cult. The founder was a former Nazi who escaped to Chile, and the group had ties to the Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet.

Binged this today. Excellent

I honestly don't believe people realize just how big The Message still is.

Jeremiah, thanks for, in this one, turning your ball cap around and wearing it the way it was designed to be worn. I do appreciate it. I haven't seen the tatted-up right arm yet, but am hopeful about that whole thing. Peace, grace, and mercy to you.

I’m having a hard time finding the Jim Jones episodes.. is there somewhere I can find “Through Jones Colored Glasses”?

Great series. I attended (and worked for) a London pentecostal church where Roberts Liardon was on the staff for a while (he was also head of the Bible school) Gods generals was a big thing and had me so fascinated, Liardon did include the failures of these men but not this stuff on Branham. HOWEVER, hearing this I do think you cannot throw the baby out with the water. Just because these men used deception I don't think you can conclude therefore there are no supernatural occurances or the Holy spirit could not give words of knowledge or discernment etc Also that deceptive spirits could not do the same also. Basically I'm not a cessationist but I recognise there are psychosomatic, cold reading, demonic and deceptive ways of replicating spiritual incite.

DADS: Protect your children's eyes and ears, limit/eliminate screen time and instead build a foundation in our Saviour. Go outside and show them what's real..

@bonniebarlow4939

Жыл бұрын

They just explained that's exactly how a cult works.

@danielsvision

Жыл бұрын

@@bonniebarlow4939 beg your pardon mate?

I keep looking at those fiddles and can't help but think, Collins is getting ready for his meeting with the devil,

Michael Brown focused on Martin Luther but somehow didn't scrutinize Jim Jones.

The super sluth's mic is so hard to listen to.... great series, thanks guys

Pure poppycock John pure poppycock, glad to see you did tell the truth on one thing that there were black people or African Americans in William Branham service 👋🙌👍 but that was obvious we all knew that you can see it on his videos and you can hear it on his tapes.

I happen to live in Clarksville, Indiana which is next to Jeffersonville. I find the subject of William Branham and Jim Jones very interesting. There is another cult in Jeffersonville which I believe may have come out of the Branham ministry. You may want to look into Christ Gospel and Sister Hicks, if you haven’t already. I personally know some people who have come out of that cult.

@revc5852

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I know many of them. And Thursday night we had a big challenge. And one of them was Christ gospel. But we had a good time proving where she was wrong. And they are Jesus only people. We baptized in the name of Lord Jesus Christ. That is the only way. And William Branham was Malachi 4: 5-6. And he did not agree with her. Because woman is not to be a preacher. But the one we debated with. Now he's checking it out.

@revc5852

2 жыл бұрын

The different and Jim Jones. He was a false prophet. William Branham was Malachi 4. The spirit of Elijah and he proved it here on Earth. He turned us back to Acts 2:38 Mark 16:16 Deuteronomy 22:5 this is the way to eternal life. If you don't come this way you will perish. And I hope this helps you. And may God bless you.

@Dino-ns9jx

11 ай бұрын

@@revc5852 so you're saying it's only Message believers who have eternal life? Then those who are not in the Message, and have been born again,what kind of eternal life do they have? You are very cultish

@revc5852

11 ай бұрын

@@Dino-ns9jx I believe the Bible. And that's what William Branham preached. And if you don't believe all of the Bible. Then you want be in the rapture.

@Dino-ns9jx

11 ай бұрын

@@revc5852 I knew you won't answer my direct questions.

"how many fingers?" Just my Archer

You guys should cover the 'blood over intent' cult, here on KZread. This series was great, by the way!

Please cover Hebrew Roots!!

What do you think about Jesus mentioned Judas Iscariot and even chose him as one of the original deciples?

Very interesting, but I think you are overdoing the commercials.

The 50 plus years I have been listening to the sermons of brother Branham... I was always amazed at the perfect continuity of God's Word and the insight from his close relationship with Jesus Christ. Only considered the discernment and hundreds of thousands of healings as vindication of God's work.

@tristen7085

4 ай бұрын

So the prayer cards he had his audiences fill out with so much detail about their personal information wasn't the 1st clue that he was a deceptive so called healer? He didn't heal anyone. He took their money and blame the audience if they weren't healed. Sick that you can't see the false teachings and his evil foundation that has infiltrated churches today.

There needs to be a clear, specific definition of "cult." The word, cult is applied to many Christian denominations. If people are free to question the theology, free to listen to other teachers, free to visit other churches, free to not practice traditions, free to leave the church, then it's not a cult, in my opinion. By " free," I mean there is no punishment.

@robertdelisle7309

Жыл бұрын

You are correct in that the word cult is used to mean different things. Christians use the word “cult” to refer to a group claiming to be Christian but missing primary Christian doctrine such as the Trinity, divinity of Jesus, who God is, the gospel. Cults usually are characterized by a charismatic leader or organization controlling its members behavior and knowledge.

@sheilasmith7779

Жыл бұрын

@@robertdelisle7309 Without an agreed upon definition for "cult," discussions are reduced to name calling. Even if we could all agree the label " cult" is accurate, how is it useful in a discussion? Ad hominems are not supportive evidence. They are feeble attempts to discount the validity of a person's argument.

Last day of 1976 our Branham group was gathered all night for the rapture that did not happen. False prophet many times over.

I do worship God as a cult member according to some people... but I'm available anytime to discuss Who Is God, and William Branham as The God or the devil.

Can anyone provide a link to an instance where Branham himself claimed to be Elijah? I understand his followers believe he was Elijah as I’ve studied Branham for a while now being from Indiana but I’ve never personally discovered an account where Branham claimed it of himself like Dowie did.

@brothercaleb

2 жыл бұрын

He did not make a direct claim like “I am the Elijah” but he implied it. He said, true prophets don’t identify themselves directly. So for example he made statements like “the Angel told me ‘as John the Baptist forerun the first coming of Christ,you will fore run the second coming…’” and he connected it to Malachi 4:5-6 where it talks about Elijah coming before the great and dreadful day of the lord. Of course there are other scriptures he used to emphasise that there was an Elijah supposed to come at the end time for the gentiles (non jews).

@Alexdparkinson

2 жыл бұрын

@@brothercaleb Thanks for your reply. I do remember reading the quote of forerunning the second coming. I’ve studied several books on his life but the main books would be “The Supernatural Life of William Branham” by Owen Jorgenson. In those books it comes across that Branham was a meek and humble man. I’d have to dig back into the book to find reference but I believe I remember actually reading that he asked that people stop calling him Elijah or the Lord would take him home, which happened. I would have to verify that but this is why I ask if anyone has a direct quote.

@brothercaleb

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alexdparkinson no, what upset Branham was when people started calling him “Jesus”. But if you read Pearry Green’s book “William Branham, the acts of a prophet” and some video testimonies on KZread, he details an account where he directly told Branham “I perceive you are that Elijah” and Branham did not deny it. For Branham’s own direct opinion on this Elijah, get “an exposition to the seven church ages”. There he talks in depth about the subject. Specifically the chapter on “laodicean church age” and sub title “the messenger”. I was in the movement for over 20yrs and the notion of Branham being the “Elijah to come” is the linchpin doctrine fundamental to the message. When One recognises this, they are considered to have received “the end time revelation”. In fact Branham is on record saying that the evidence of the Holy Ghost is “recognising the message for your age”…recognising that he is that Elijah, essentially.

@Alexdparkinson

2 жыл бұрын

@@brothercaleb Thanks again. I will look into both of those books.

@eagleeyes6642

Жыл бұрын

@@Alexdparkinson ASK THESE GUYS OR ANY OF WILLIAM BRANHAM'S CRITICS IF THEY CAN DO THIS IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.... kzread.info/dash/bejne/eK2tk82Tdqvef5s.html

What

William Branham nor his associates ever fooled me. I always knew that the Supernatural manifestations in and around his life was the Supernatural God Himself working through William Branham and not William Branham.

Consider yourselves and think of all the things that have been done in Christ name and had nothing to do with Jesus Christ. Can you imagine?

Jesus is the way brother Branham was luke warm message

Everyone wishes they were born at a different time, including the people living at the time you wish you were born in Alexander the Great was probably good with the time period he was born in

Too much bass on red beard guy lol

Horrible!!!! I had no idea of what I was a part 28 years ago, word of faith

Christians are 'losing badly' at Speakers corner at the hands of Muslim debaters: why haven't James White or Jeff Durbin ever taken on debaters like Muhammad Hijab or Hamza or Ali Dawah ?

@HoldFastApolpgetics

2 жыл бұрын

Acts17Apologetics (David Wood)

@tigersgymdan

2 жыл бұрын

@@HoldFastApolpgetics Nah ! He ain’t doin a great job either, I think the only two people who could stand up for the Christian community in these debates would have been Ravi and Nabeel but since they’re both no more the next two most knowledgeable debaters would be Jeff and James

Where's the other 5 parts?

@woobiefuntime

2 жыл бұрын

They're on Apple and KZread

@kristabinkley5228

2 жыл бұрын

@@Caroline-qt5yg thank you

I would never say anything negative about Brother Branham. If God would have revealed it to him about Jim Jones then he would have warned the people but here is the thing, people have to be led of God for themselves. No one seems to understand that. And by the way no one has to "escape" from the message. Simply walk away. No one forcing not one person to stay. Despicable the way people phrase things. I could say more but I didn't make it 3 minutes into the video I don't want to let a demon of unbelief in my home.

@bonniebarlow4939

Жыл бұрын

Except when you walk away they tell you you'll go to hell. Emotional abuse. And you reinforce not being open to hearing a different option because it must be a demon. Sad.

@richardgraham6836

8 ай бұрын

I was pissed when I walked away because they prayed for my destruction, so my soul could be saved. There is some wicked people inside of this message. I never blamed William Branham, that’s on them. William Branham is the only true light of a message throughout all these dark times. He is not to blame for these people who have only evil desires. I’ve met some horrible people in this message. When you have something pure surely the devil wants to destroy it. Bro Branham was true man of God,

Bro Branham was the true prophet,he brought the message to the bride not everyone

@yallknowabby

11 ай бұрын

right

You so called analysers of Prophet Branham's message why are you so against his Messages because you don't have Messages for this world you are nothing but jealousy of him like how the brethren of Joseph were jealous of him cause all together of so called ministers can't produced what Prophet Branham has produced..

trumpers are the same spirit...people, be careful

@linjicakonikon7666

Жыл бұрын

Trumpers? Look at the people who HATE Trump. Are THEY your tribe?

Even if you KNOW it isn't God you are not to say it isn't. Wouldn't want to say the thing is the devil when it is God. And no one knows everything, everytime. That's how blasphemy works. Hopefully it isn't to late for you and those you lead astray.

@yallknowabby

11 ай бұрын

literally

Also brother branham introduced the second coming. The only one he introduced was Christ, our Joseph, he has increased feeding the bride around the world and people are moving from around the world to be a part of his ministry. So you better wake up are you going to be left behind. By not knowing the truth.

@nicwright09

2 жыл бұрын

Are you claiming that Joseph Branham is your Christ?

@revc5852

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicwright09 I think you're kind of took me wrong. Christ means the anointed one. He is the anointed one for our day. There's only one Lord Jesus Christ and he lives in my heart. As the holy ghost. If you know who William branham is then you could understand me better. Because he was the spirit of Elijah. I hope this let you to understand me better. Also brother Branham introduced, Christ, our Joseph and he was to foreran someone. So now he has increased. And people are moving from around the world to be a part of his ministry. Because they can see who he is also. But you got to go into the message of the hour to get this. William Branham.

@nicwright09

2 жыл бұрын

@@revc5852 so you cannot be anointed? You believe the 5 fold ministry is done with and Joseph is your only elected speaker outside of "tapes""?

@revc5852

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicwright09 I am part of that five fold ministry. As one of them that tells the bride to press play. Because that is the voice of God. And to tell you Christ, our Joseph is that leader for the bride. He has increased. Because God said, you'll have a son call his name Joseph, that's the word of God to the bride. And also the thunders are connected with the coming. And Christ, our Joseph is the only one he introduced. Whether you believe it or not. So you must press play to know what he is going to do.

@nicwright09

2 жыл бұрын

@@revc5852 That's where you're vastly wrong. You take out the works of the holy ghost, and unless you're calling Joseph THE angel in revelation 10:7 then this belief you're claiming is not scriptural. And if you are calling him Rev 10:7 then who is WMB to you? The bride is anointed and for one man to take that mantle is wrong.

What I'm seeing is. You left the truth and went into taking the mark of the beast. That shows you're not part of the Bride. William branham was Malachi 4. The spirit of Elijah turn us back to Acts 2 38 Mark 16 16 Deuteronomy 22 5 this is the way to eternal life . More truth, voice of God recordings

@jordantheriverman6143

2 жыл бұрын

The eternal Son of God: Jesus Christ, is the way to eternal life and the Truth...not William Branham (Who id never even heard of til a month ago,) i challenge you to actually listen to this series.

@edivandamanso6762

2 жыл бұрын

Na biblia nao tem noiva, tem filhos, e todos sao filhos Deus

@jeremyjohnson4106

2 жыл бұрын

Friend you are terribly lost to say such words, I plead with you to see those Scriptures in light of the totality of Scripture & immediate context Mal4:5 & 3:1 have been fulfilled by John the baptist. Jesus tells us this and even says if you have ears to hear, let you hear Matt11:11-15, Matt17. Mark16:16-17 shows we are saved by faith alone in Christ/gospel. Saying that baptism is required for salvation in this verse because of the wording is committing the negative inference fallacy. You must look at acts2:38 with a heretical, works-based ens, from the Oneness Pentecostals, to establish such a twisting of Scripture. You clearly did not listen to 20 minutes of this 1hr20min video. You probably missed the first 5 videos as well. I encourage you to hear them and escape the false prophet/cult

@revc5852

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyjohnson4106 brother you can't convince me that John was Malachi 4. John was Malachi 3. I'm convinced and positive where I'm standing who William Branham was. He was the spirit of Elijah. Of Malachi 4:5-6. It is a must to believe God's prophet when he sends them and vindicate them by signs and wonders. His visions never failed he was definitely a true major prophet for our day. You don't want to know that on the day of judgment. It'll be too late to accept it. And may God have mercy on you, if you don't receive what I have told you is the truth.

@Dilley_G45

2 жыл бұрын

@@revc5852 what the flip are you on about? Are you from some weird cult? Read the Bible and don't look for signs and wonders....just trust in Jesus and his finished work on the cross....done