Craftsmanship: +3 Mini +2 Cammus +1 CSL Power: +3 Cammus +2 Mini +1 CSL Size/weight: +3 Mini +2 CSL +1 Cammus Appearance: +3 Mini +2 Cammus +1 CSL Mounting: +3 CSL +2 Cammus +1 Mini Tuning Software: +3 CSL +2 Mini +1 Cammus Value: +3 Cammus +2 Mini +1 CSL Connections: +3 Cammus +2 CSL +1 Mini Ecosystem: +3 CSL +2 Mini +1 Cammus Game Compatibility: +3 CSL +2 Mini +1 Cammus Quick Release: +3 Cammus +2 Mini +1 CSL Convenience: +3 Cammus +2 CSL +1 Mini Materials: +3 Mini +2 Cammus +1 CSL Customer Service: +3 Cammus +2 Mini +1 CSL Overall FFB Satisfaction: +3 Cammus +2 Mini +1 CSL Small FFB Detail: +3 Mini +2 CSL +1 Cammus Large FFB Detail: +3 Cammus +2 Mini +1 CSL Practicality: +3 Cammus +2 Mini +1 CSL Totals: Cammus- 40 Mini- 38 CSL- 30

@sleit0n

2 жыл бұрын

i think you need to pin this comment. Strong video tho!💪👌

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleit0n whoops thought I did. Thank you!

@Tom-xj5yb

2 жыл бұрын

Ordered my mini! If I needed a fancy wheel I would have gone with one of the other two, simagic wheels are so expensive. Although I have seen a few eBay usb flappy paddle systems from Russia that bolt between hub and wheel if I wanted to do gt racing.

@regibson23

2 жыл бұрын

Your value calculations are off. It seems like you're purely looking at nm per $ in which case CSL comes in second. It's $60 per nm. Mini is $63.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@regibson23 I did the calculations purely on how I feel. There is no way you can put these 3 up against each other any other way imo. They are all great, they all perform and do what they are supposed to do, it boils down to the individual and what they hold highest, what categories are most important to them. I feel you hold looks, sound levels and mounting options high on your list. :) I feel I did these wheelbases justice and if you don't agree, that's ok! We all value things differently, I just hope I can help people decide what's best for them as individuals.

I think you're the only person(end user) in this world that own all of this budget direct drive combo

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I was so excited to be able to do this video and I have been waiting a long time. I'm happy that Cammus came on to the scene shortly after I announced I was planning a CSL DD vs Simagic video. This really added a whole different layer that is much welcomed in this space!

This is what we wanted to see man; short, crisp and to the point reviews. No doubt many other channels like sim racing garage put in hours and hours in maybe a simple quick release review but that detail is mostly unwanted. Good to see your unbaised thoughts

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I have been wanting to make a CSL DD vs Simagic video for a good while, the Cammus popping onto the scene was really unexpected.

What a GREAT comparison of these DD wheelbases! No real big surprises (to me), but awesome to have it all explained so succinctly! 👍👍👍

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

This video was more to help people decide if they were struggling to make a choice. Even though Cammus won on paper with the points, if you or others value one of the categories more, it's easier to decide I think.

you're easily one of the most honest reviewers ive seen

@laur.an01

2 жыл бұрын

Literally what I told him too

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you both! I know it can hurt my chances working with certain companies in the future but if they make something I can stand behind, I think people are able to see that shine through on the videos. Even though Simagic and Fanatec got 2nd and 3rd in this video that doesn't make them bad options but for someone wanting to feel confident they made a solid choice based on the qualities they hold most important, this video can help I think.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Loving waking up to these every morning this week. You're the hardest working man on sim racing youtube right now.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

That's a huge compliment man, I'm happy to be that for you right now! I got 4 more Simagic videos planned for release, 2 of them filmed, a pedal review, pedal mod video and then a ton of regular videos of course. I haven't abandoned Simterviews btw, just made it my goal to get product related stuff out before Christmas so people can be informed.

@CypressWalker

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt, he puts stuff out in time for coffee. It also explains the high count of pajama vids.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@CypressWalker lol

Those reviews might not feel as "professional" as some other simracing youtubers, but I really love how you dare to be honest, when all the others direct drive reviews are like "this is still inferior to a simucube2 ultimate, but it costs a lot less so it's ok" clearly avoiding a comparision with direct competitors to not make any company angry. Also thank you for reviewing lots or more obscure chinese products, i got the handbrake you liked less about one year ago, and it's still great value compared to "premium" offerings.

@kenhiew2900

2 жыл бұрын

Hear hear

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words, that is my goal here! Any one of these products on their own could please someone for years to come but with so many choices these days it's nice to be able to see how they stack up to each other in all the ways I could think of. Did you get the samurai sword or the one with the integrated handle?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenhiew2900 :)

@martinocesaratto

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson the samurai one, the others weren't available on amazon when i bought it, but i payed only 60€ for it, more than worth them! Now i'd need a sequential shifter but amazon doesn't have any here, so i think i'd have to go the aliexpress way EDIT: BTW another "broke simracing" suggestion i have: instead of buying expensive button box to have paddles on your wheels, on 3drap you can buy paddle shifters at less than 40€ (a bit more for the "pro" ones, but they're worth the extra cost), and get an aluminum or carbon plate cut for you, then you only need a joystick board (10€ on amazon) and some buttons (10 metal ones for 9€) and you can have a custom USB button plate for any wheel you like really cheap (i can send you photos of the two i made for myself)

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinocesaratto that would be cool to see. demureg@gmail.com

Awesome review, you rock! Great job on everything. Happy holidays.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

You as well man! Thank you for all your support you give!

Definitely my favorite sim gear reviewer. Thanks for all the work you do 👌

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and sharing how you feel! Makes me feel proud to do what I'm doing!

@Starmast3rmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson You should be proud! Keep being you, man

I like how fair you are! Straight to the point as well! Great content!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I try.

Best comparison, straight to the point, no BS video.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you much! I tried to be as straight forward as possible. They are all great but I know my choice! ;)

I just wanna say that I've never enjoyed a review more than this one. So much explained, fast and with a clear voice. I was in the market for the CSL DD to switch from my toy G29, but it's out of stock till July. I'm so glad I found your video, and now have two other options to look at. Thank you!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

That was my exact goal, to share my knowledge of these three great options to help people like you find something that will suit their needs/wants. :)

You are the most honest and relatable reviewer and I'm not talking just about sim racing stuff, all youtube categories in general! You comprehensively dive into the equipment and compare stuff that are so obvious yet so important to a regular buyer. And from these three, although that Alpha Mini looks gorgeous and I would probably never need anything more personally, I love the path that Cammus are on. That wheelbase and the QR, for that price, with all those functions is totally crazy. And hopefully if they continue the software R&D and bring us updates I'm sure they can extract waay more out of that base. They are in a position to push the market to a different level with that price to performance and quality ratio. Bottom line I think is, if you have a rig to mount that giant ass brick on, that Cammus wheel base is a no brainer. You said it perfectly!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! And yes the motor is a 17nm motor that is down tuned, I asked them if it would be possible to extract more force out of the wheelbase through firmware updates and they said yes, they are long term testing the wheelbase at different levels to see what the maximum they can get out of it will be. ;)

what a substantial size difference between the alpha mini and the cammus. another great vid Doug!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

It really is...it's gigantor compared. That's why I wanted the mini in the Middle so that could be seen! ;)

@keanetan2439

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson just gotta say that its amazing that you are one of the only reviewers that has compared all 3 wheelbases. thanks for your hard work. imo fanatec is like the apple of the sim racing world while simagic is like samsung. cammus huawei/xiaomi. hahaha

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@keanetan2439 lol that's a great comparison!

@Nostromo2100

2 жыл бұрын

@@keanetan2439 100% agregó. Fanatec has became something like the Apple religion in simracing, Even has an army of "fanatecs" after it.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Correct! Lol

That was direct and informative and should be part of any potensial buyers due dilligence. If I were to replace my AF based on this video I would go for the Cammus out of these three because of the headroom and the fact that I don't like/need too much/sharp details. And the price of the Cammus is about half of what I payed for my AF almost 7 years ago! Visually it is Simagic all day though. Good to see a growing number of DD's for the masses.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100% I actually used to refer people to accuforce as the best budget DD PC option before Fanatec came out with the CSL DD. No it's all about Simagic and Cammus around this price point. They are the 2 biggest forces in this range.

Gotta go with the simagic. I can see for rally and dirt where you may not care as much about the small details, but the DD wheel craze began because everyone wants to feel these details. The other huge selling point of the mini is because of its small size, and cable location, your monitor mounting positions are much more flexible than about any other wheel on the market.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I did really like that about the Simagic actually...I didn't have to worry about my cables hitting my monitor stand. Good point!

I hope you do another review or comparison because simagic been doing very well on the ecosystem and their software

@DouglasThompson

3 ай бұрын

Simagic has many new impressive products.

All great options imo, each warranting their price range. I think the user can really decide what factors are most important to the buyer.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Yes indeedy, I'm going to try and break this video up into small sections so it's easier to navigate when I get time.

Good comparison mate. I'm in UK and had my mini arrive two days ago. Simagic rim quality is phenomenal imo. I went with the GT1-D rim and I'm super happy with the entire package. I mainly drive GTE.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

it really is a great setup. could easily accept it as my forever base.

@LowBlow

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson well I'll at least be happy with it for a couple of years until I go for an SC2 Pro. That's the dream base right there.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@LowBlow I've heard nothing but good from them! Great end goal!

great info, thanks for sharing this!!

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

Any of the 3 would be great choices, honestly. What type of racing you do is one of the biggest factors ime.

@jacobgoyeau

Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson I’m into sim drifting ! I have a t300 rs id like to upgrade soon looking at the alpha mini a lot!

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

@jacobgoyeau the mini is a great base, super cool, knly thing I didn't like was the price and the non standard mounting base size but you can get an adapter.

Great comparison buddy!👌

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you much RVR!

Trust your reviews more than any other sim reviews..

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! That is what I try to do and I'm glad you can appreciate it!

Great video Doug, nicely explained! I really like Alpha mini tho. It's so tiny but powerfull. thanks for sharing ✌️

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

It really is a cool base!

Nice comparison, small note you can also buy the CSL universal hub for the DD which has buttons/QR and paddle shifters combined for around 150 bucks. I picked it up with the Black Friday deal they had and although it is plastic I'm satisfied with it so far.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely a good option but quality-wise I would not put the CSL universal hub in the same category as what Cammus has to offer. Thank you for adding that though, it's an option for Fanatec users that need a cost effective way to attach any rim they want.

@misterdog7

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson Indeed immediately bought 3 rims lol

thanks. you convinced me with the cammus.

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

Well if you buy from me right now it's 500 dollars flat no shipping. First 30 usa customers only

My favorite review on these products.

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

Thank you much! I tried to break it down so people could target exactly what features ere important to them.

I've bought a Fanatec CSL DD aaaand even if it first felt like heaven coming from my tmx wheel, after a few months i'm starting to regret not being aware of those other options back then because this DD base has lots of flaws, feel like really poor materials have been used, the wheel is kinda bent already (less than 200hours of actual usage), the ffb is weird af sometimes, like something is broken inside the base and sometimes not, like totally random The more I use it, the cheapest it feels and I had issues with stuff, Fanatec customer service is awfully slow, If you don't harass them, nothing happens, had to wait 3 weeks to receive a replacement piece that broke on their (really cheap and poorly manufactured) table clamp ... Yeah wouldn't recommend anything from Fanatec at this point, big disappointment even tho it's kind of "expected" for such a "low price" Great video btw, straight to the point, crystal clear informations ! cheers

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

You sound about as lucky as me when it comes to Fanatec gear. I have had quite a few occasions when I had to make use of Fanatec's "customer service" it's more like a disservice...lol If they spent a bit more of thier profits on customer service and quality control they might be in a more favorable position in my mind. They make some good gear and they do a lot of promotion for simracing but they are not my favorite people...

@rover1374

Жыл бұрын

This is good info. I’ve just jumped from console to PC and looking for a DD. Fanatec sound horrible to get hold of, have stuff delivered and just deal with on a human level it seems. Where I thought it excelled was quality, eco system and range. But, if quality is as you say, that’s another reason to avoid them. They are also always out of stock in Australia where I live.

@salkdhfpoahergpoahre1534

8 ай бұрын

@@rover1374 Consider that Fanatec has a much larger user base and has been around for a lot longer, so there will be a lot more people eager to complain and even more that are using it happily with no issue.

Simagic all day bro. Couldn't be happier I cancelled my CSL and got the mini alpha. Has exceeded every expectation I've had and then some. Nice vid bro.

@joost1183

2 жыл бұрын

its around 80% more expensive vs the fanatec

@nejcmirtic529

2 жыл бұрын

@@joost1183 What? If you want just a round wheel with Fanatec and 8Nm. It is 480€ for base and then additional minimum of 200€ for the wheel (WRC, Mclaren GT3) or if you want something bigger, because you find 30cm to be a bit on the small side, so something like 33-35cm, you need a Podium Hub. So in total you are paying 680€. Simagic Alpha Mini for 13Nm with their wheelside 70mm QR you pay 735€ and you already have the QR. So there is only 55€ difference which if we ASSUME that they have the same strength, which they don't. Is not even 10% more expensive, compared to the Fanatec. *I have excluded the rim price in both of these examples. Because we are interested in price difference to mount the wheel and not total price with the wheel. But if you wan't podium level of wheel, then you get the whole GT1 pack for 1080€ With Fanatec Porsche Podium steering wheel which is 550€ extra the total is 1030€ Again, the price difference is still about 50€. So I don't understand on what you are basing your claims. Also with Fanatec it is known that the button caps keep braking, even the podium ones. Simagic buttons are made differently, so I don't expect to see a single one broken/split. On my Universal HUB all button caps have split in about a year of use.

@Shakshuka69

2 жыл бұрын

@@nejcmirtic529 8nm is also not really enough for a standard 350mm steering wheel so you're really limited to sim racing wheels (only fanatec wheels will work) and the least desirable aftermarket ones.

@nejcmirtic529

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shakshuka69 I know, noticed that with my CSW 2.5 for 2kg combo of Universal Hub and 33cm OMP GP Racing steering wheel. That it is losing details compared to the Formula V2.5 when I borrowed it from a friend for a comparison. But as I said earlier this week, when I decide to swap it will most likely be a SC2 Pro or the second best thing VRS DFP.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

The Simagic is a great option at this price point, as I said, if you hold Small FFB Detail high with a good amount of headroom, it's the clear choice of the 3.

Great review man. I currently own the alpha mini and absolutely love it! Would love to see you do a review on the new immsource! Heard it's Playstation compatible.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Really...I'll have to check into that. Maybe I'll reach out to them.

Great review man! Cammus seems to be the underdog winner. Wish these cheaper bases were out when I was in the market. I dropped 2k when I bought my Dd1 and wheel. Cammus seems like a valid cheaper option. Great job man

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I had a DD1 with F1 wheel combo as well, paid 1800...sold it for the CSL DD. Lol

@dirtinthebox32

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson really!? Wow. Yeah I don’t get it how all these cheaper bases can outperform a product that’s twice as expensive. It’s a little annoying tbh. Are you gonna stick with the csl dd or switch over? If so which one?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirtinthebox32 I have switched over to the Cammus full time, I am keeping the csl DD as backup still though.

you are a very fair reviewer...excellent job, son!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you dad!

@richardthompson7611

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson 🚓

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardthompson7611 🎠

Cheers brother earned a sub finally a no bs reveiw gonna go with the alpha as I do alot of open wheel racing

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Nice man! Glad I could provide some info to help confirm your choice!

@emde174

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson cheers for the reply, should be here in the next day or two =) just got the base as I have osw rims

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@emde174 you will love it. Great little base and impressive for the size.

Great video bro , even though I don't need another wheel base I can't take my eyes off the Cammus 🤷

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Lol it's the bane of a Sim racer...

Hopefully they'll actually have it for sale soon ("wishlist" is the only option from those links) and from a retailer in the states. $150-200 for shipping means the base w/wheel is actually $900 + taxes, while the base alone is $650 + Taxes

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about the Cammus? If so the store is being altered. You have to contact Rebecca on that page.

Canceled my csl dd and went with vrs direct force. Couldn’t be happier. Great comparison.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Let me know how the VRS is! :) Been hearing a lot about that option.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I reached out to them to see if they would be willing to send a review unit.

I agree with the other commenters. The other channels go into great detail and depth. Sometimes its not always what a new sim racer wants to hear. it's about time someone compared DD wheels. This puts the explanations out there makes it much easier for a new person getting into direct drive wheels needs to hear. helps them make the best decision they can. I'm selling my CSW wheel base , My dilemma now is should I sell my Fanatec Clubsport V3 pedals and get the Sim Magic pedals or wait for cammus pedals? or just hang on them for now? I also do Rally racing.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure why my first comment didn't post everything I wrote but I suggest to keep the V3's, the Simagic pedals definitely feel better for the most part but the Fanatecs feel great for the money. I also like the fanatec hydraulic brake pedal better than Simagics. Simagics feels more like air than fluid.

@favs970

2 жыл бұрын

I agree too that it's great to finally see a comparison of DD wheels. The only other proper DD wheels comparison I found is from the Simracing Garage from more than 5 years ago.. About the FFB overall satisfaction and detail (the most important part imho): maybe the less detail of the Cammus is due to some smoothing that could be tweaked in the future with newer versions of their software? Btw, I like the name the "DTDD Emporium" (tagline could be "The comparison videos that the simracing garage doesn't do anymore").

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@favs970 lol I don't want to throw a jab at Barry, I think he does great work. The tuning software is still in it's infancy with Cammus so it will indeed improve with time. Don't get me wrong it feel great and is my favorite feeling of all three! I use a motion rig when I race on my own time and that actually introduces all that sort of small vibrations that the Cammus is a bit worse at so when my rig is doing it's thing the pedals, shifter, handbrake, steering wheel, seat all have that road noise feel! ;)

@favs970

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson hehe yeah I like Barry too, I was just wishing for more comparison vids.. (and to the SRG much deserved credit, he was basically the only one to ever do DDs comparisons before)

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@favs970 He seems top be slowing his content down a bit, not sure if maybe he is busy outside of youtube or just needed a break.

totally agree with everything I just usually see people racing the 10-12N range versus 15 and up. Obviously, torque and speed will be much higher for the 15N and up rims.

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

Ya they are all great honestly.

Awesome review. I would just include 1 additional review/ points category: Regional & Stock Availability. Fanatecs seem to be almost always on pre order/ sold out. Cammus currently wants $120 or more to ship, which factors greatly into the total cost

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

That's a great idea but that would be impossible to keep up with unfortunately. :(

@sadistyk_1671

Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson no worries

yes nice vid man, for me the alpha mini is deffinetly the big winner. its awsome size and the details ar so acurate

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Incredible detail, I agree. The size is something I wish more companies would replicate. Simagic has proven this size is possible, hopefully the next iterations of companies DD offerings will follow suit!

Nice roundup, short to the point and you’re thoughts. Bit quick thoughts after receiving the alpha. Anyway although these are the budget dd wheels most would buy the Fanatec. Mainly because it’s widely supported by many games. And the majority will hook it up, install drivers and start using it. Not saying you’re wrong but as long games aren’t widely adopted or you need a work around to get working Fanatec will be the number 1 goto dd wheel. Never the less good roundup and it will help certainly a lot of people.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

That's true and I think I mentioned that in the comparison, Fanatec is definitely a driving force in the industry and although I recommend the Mini and Cammus over the Fanatec for the type of racing I do, it doesn't mean the winner of this comparison is the best choice for everyone. ;)

i love the aggressiveness of this

@DouglasThompson

3 ай бұрын

Lol

I feel like SIMAGIC win.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

It's a great base for sure! Not my choice but it is an excellent option out of these three!

Subscribed and just bought cammus after watching this video.

@DouglasThompson

10 ай бұрын

Nice man! You will be very happy!

@user-in4ij8iq4c

10 ай бұрын

@@DouglasThompson yes I am !

What a no B.S. review. You’re the man Duggie.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gavigan!

@gavancorrigan8813

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson your welcome Dumplas Thogson

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@gavancorrigan8813 Thank you Gavel!

The only problem for the alfa and cammus for the entry level should be the amount of force they are generating for people without a rig. So living room simracers, they don't have much of a choice.

@ManweruEmanuilov

2 жыл бұрын

I have the mini on a GT Omega Apex stand and it's sturdy enough to fully enjoy it.

@dcu21

2 жыл бұрын

Or you can easily just limit the power and match what csl dd has

@KondyoTheLightning

2 жыл бұрын

@@dcu21 In Rurope SImagic and Cammus is really more expensive. I would go for the alfa mini for sure if I the price wasn't like 30-40% more than China/US

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

You can always turn it down. ;)

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@KondyoTheLightning wow...that's really too bad. I'm sorry I didn't include that in the comparison but I am speaking from a North American perspective as you know. Wouldn't the Fanatec be just as much of a price increase or is it because the Simagic and Cammus are Chinese companies affecting the price?

Finally someone comparing cammus to same price range bases. So many videos people complaining about things on cammus and comparing it to simcube or other double the price bases. I was thinking to buy moza r9 but its out of stock where i live so i found about cammus and it seems pretty damn good deal even after shipping which is 160$ with airplane(10-20days) and 80$ with train(45-60days). With 5% coupon code it would be 730€ with 15nm base and decent steering wheel shipped from china to my house. If i would buy moza R9 which costs 460€ and CS wheel 360€ its already more expensive with less power. Customer service looks good too, I asked about stuff on email and got answer in 24h.

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

Cammus is doing 650 for 15nm base and wheel combo right now, also you can use my "doug" code for 5 percent off! ;) They also have a 300 dollar 8nm wheelbase soon. I will be reviewing right when it comes out! Stay tuned.

Yo Doug . I'm still running the fanatec CSW 2.5 . Still debating whether to upgrade now or wait . Is it time yet? Is it outdated? Is this gonna be as good as it gets with DD wheel bases? Always love ur stuff Doug. Keep um. Coming! 🤷🏽‍♂️

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say you have the absolute best belt driven wheelbase on the market, stay with that till it breaks imo. DD feels better but the Fanatec belt driven bases are some of the best on the market if the torque level satisfies you still. :)

I really like what you’re saying about the Cammus. Could you do a future video on it that answers these questions: What games are compatible? How well does the app work? What else plugs into it? (Like a pass through USB perhaps?). How long does shipping by sea take (to save money)? and How likely is Cammus going to stick around in this industry? I’m just concerned with them being so new to the sim racing game.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I requested the game compatibility list, they are compiling it. :) The English version of the android app is still being finalized, the iOS one is up but I don't have an iPhone or know anyone with one... :( The handbrake, pedals and sequential plug into the rear currently. It would most likely take a month or so by sea from my experience buying Chinese goods. I think Cammus will stick around because they have already been around for a good while in the automotive industry, sim racing is now a permanent part of the auto industry! :)

Thanks for the great comparison video. I was about to pull the trigger on the Simagic but then your video about the Cammus came out. Just want to get your opinion, I've heard some guys saying the Cammus is running hot? What is your opinion regarding that? Do you think that they will do any other wheels? I would love a GT wheel from them.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

they are working on other wheel options and they will also be implementing a directional stick or 2 on the next wheel button box iteration. I'd like to think I have something to do with that decision. ;) my wheelbase runs cool to the touch even at 100 percent output. the Simagic I tested actual is the only one that gets warm to the touch. even that one doesn't get hot though.

Thank you for this I enjoy these type of comparison videos. A few of your point's did seem a bit silly though. As far as looks goes that's completely opinion. My opinion is the Camus looks too big and bulky and probably would not fit as well in my cockpit. As far as build quality and materials I'm sure they are all top notch. Just because one might sound a little different when slapping it on top like a drum...lol. Quick release? Do you really need more than one? As far as NMs go I see all the time reviewers praising a base with a high NM but then they only ever use 8-10 NM when they actually use them. As for me I went with the CL dd because I wanted the options to use it on my xbox series c or ps5 (with the workaround) or PC. Right now I'm using xbox but when gpu prices drop I may upgrade my pc and switch over. Right now I'm over the moon with how amazing the CL dd feels and don't regret my choice one bit. I honestly don't see why anyone would realistically need or want more force than what it offers. If I was only on PC I might have gone with the sim magic though, I don't know. Anyways thanks for the vid, just respectfully offering my opinions like you asked for.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

You must realize nearly all of this is opinion that's why people watch my videos,they want my opinion on things. ;) Also the slap was not what I based my points on, that was for fun lol I try to keep things fun while I give information out. Having multiple quick release options is essential for many and although my only reason to have 4 at any one time is because I have a video series called BrokeA$$ $imra¢ing where I need to switch quickly between 3 or more setups. Check it out if you haven't already! Either way, Im glad you got some enjoyment out of my video and I appreciate you taking the time to give feedback on the video!

I had to send my dd pro back bc it bricked on update . I will say they were pretty good with the turn around . Took only one week to get a replacement with free overnight delivery .

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Did you try rolling it back or it didn't let you? Did you try to put it into manual update mode? Not sure if it would have helped but I'm curious.

@CaliCuh

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson I tried everything . Every driver , bootloader , deleting reinstalling, I did it all nothing got the motor to update.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@CaliCuh that's too bad...I'm sorry your experience was so horrible. Fanatec software isn't perfect. Its mostly good though.

@CaliCuh

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson yea they handled it well . 1 week from when I sent out and had a new one not bad at all. Can’t complain .

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@CaliCuh they shipped it out before receiving the broken unit first?

Fanatec are the only one with both Xbox and playstation compatibility! That's a big reason people are steered in their direction!! Awsome video, thanks for making me discover the cammus!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Ya man! Cammus is an exciting company! I was always under the impression Thrustmaster was Xbox compatible as well... Strange

@rr_reaperqc

2 жыл бұрын

Yes TM and Logitech work on console, but it's nothing to compare with a DD

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@rr_reaperqc yes, I see. Well Thrustmaster has the stage set for them, they better perform when it comes time,too bad they had to delay it...

You should do a review on the Alpha U 23nM wheel base next

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to, I will ask simagic I'd they would be willing to send a review unit.

They all sound pretty good. I’m really happy with my dd. Unless someone makes a major breakthrough in ffb I don’t see any reason to buy another base…..unless mine takes a dump.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

you sir have the correct mindset! the best wheelbase is the one you have/ will get. :)

@SSmallwood

2 жыл бұрын

im loving my csl dd, i would have almost gone with the sim magic but i wanted to complete my eco system since i had the pedals handbrake and shifter already

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@SSmallwood not to take away from your excitement but be aware of what you just said. "I wanted to complete my ecosystem because I had the pedals,handbrake and shifter already." That's how they get you to keep on buying Fanatec stuff. ;) Once you're in deep, you're going to have to lose some blood to get out. Lol

@SSmallwood

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson absolutely, im planning on going to the BJ steel hydraulic gt pedal set next year :D

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@SSmallwood haven't seen that one, I'll check it out!

Simagic is definitely the winner atleast in europe, still about 150€ more expensive than the CSL DD but with better wheel compatibility and 150€ cheaper than the cammus

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

That's interesting, I'll see if I can find out why the Cammus is so much more in Europe. Thank you for sharing your experience/thoughts. :)

@windboosterwinsbooster5870

2 жыл бұрын

cammus is just 500 usd dollars. why its expensive than simagic???

@dcu21

2 жыл бұрын

@@windboosterwinsbooster5870 Shipping

@pailoxdd

2 жыл бұрын

@@windboosterwinsbooster5870 shipping and VAT brings the cammus base to about 750€

@wensjoe80

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson in South America the base with the wheel is $698 + $300 for shipping and 23% of taxes, I almost 1200us$. The csl DD 8nm Is about $700 for the base (shipping and taxes included and $270 for universal hub with wheel that was for sale on black Friday. Now the alpha mini I found it in about $1400 after taxes with free shipping with the GTR round wheel. So I'm in a really crossroads in cancelling the csl DD order and add some extra money for the cammus or alpha mini. I'm basically a rally driver but like the details and realistic ffb and that's my concern with the cammus. What would you do in my case?

I've only used Fanatec DD1 & 2 and i couldn't justify the expense, when I first used the CSL DD I preferred it to its bigger bros, i also prefer the QR1 Lite, which eliminates the slight wobble that you get with QR1, I also have some pretty serious health issues, which limit how much torque i need (only weigh 50kgs) I've been very happy with the CSL DD 8Nm with the exception of the run out clamp, not a good design, after replacing it with a two piece two bolt version, it feels better and operates quieter with the better designed clamp. Cammus are showing up in the UK now but it's easy to get Fanatec products here. The software has been improved too, it's a good unit if 8Nm is sufficient for your needs. Id like to try out the Simagic, i can't imagine more detailed ffb than the CSL DD provides, so I'm now intrigued.... Doh! Interesting vid thanks 👍🏻

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

Thank you much! Cammus will be sending me the new Lp8 8nm dd wheelbase and they also have the 250 dollar 5nm with 7nm peak torque C5 dd wheelbase. ;) they have been doing great things for the simracing community

Disappointed that the Fanatec didn't compare well, but its still a great choice if you don't mind being stuck in Fanatec's ecosystem. There is a way you don't have to pay Fanatec for everything, but it is almost as expensive as Fanatec's offerings, so its not really a viable work around. So I can't fault anything you've said about the wheelbase, Fanatec's ecosystem or its customer service issues. It's all proven to be true. Great video, sir.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

They do have an amazing ecosystem but it just feels so controlling and that's what I don't like about it. As we both agree it is still a great option for PC and currently the best option for console.

So, how we supposed to operate those buttons while driving with this CAMMUS base ? I mean without cutting off fingers if possible ?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Lol you'd be surprised how easy it is. I mostly use the right momentary switch but you can reach around.

Would you recommend the cammus for drifting. I'm learning to drift on the sim while building my IRL car, then I will using it to build on what i learn with the car? From tgis video it sounds like from what you say I could tune it to feel like my real car. Granted I havent built it yet, but once i have I could, if I understand you correctly. Currently the cammus ddwb bundle with the lc100 pedals is the most cost effective in the uk from what i can see. Since having an IRL drift lesson i see the benefits of the sim. It really helped me by having something to build of the. Something to go home and practice what I learned, but I do now see the limitations of my thrustmaster especially the pedals

@DouglasThompson

10 ай бұрын

I have many irl drifting friends that say it can feel just like their cars with some ffb tuning. I don't drift myself but most of my friends that bought Cammus bases do.

@DouglasThompson

10 ай бұрын

If you end up wanting the lc100 pedals, please watch my video showing how to get the most out of them! kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYKjxY-gYM6-l7A.html

From your experience, how do you compare csl dd with interpolation filter at max vs cammus in terms of detail? are they equal? i ask this because i have tested csl dd and i like it the most with interpolation filer set to max... Thank you in advice for your answer! 🙏 u are helping a lot of peoples with those reviews! ♥️🔥

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

No, if you turn interpolation filter off to a completely raw signal the Fanatec CSL DD provides more detail.

@sleit0n

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson yes, i now this! but if u put it to max (at 20 i think), how is it compared to Cammus?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh I see...well I would say the Cammus would feel similar or slightly better.

@sleit0n

2 жыл бұрын

@Douglas Thompson that is nice! 🔥😁 Thank you! 🙏

Hey, Doug! Planning to switch from g29 to either simagic alpha mini or csl dd. I really like everything the alpha base brings to the table as far as detail, price, power and qr.On the con side of things I'm really not sold on the ecosystem. Also, I dont really like the look of simagic wheels and they seem too expensive (I intend to buy 2 wheels), you could buy an off-brand wheel from ebay, but you lose the paddels. I need pedals as well... A full Fanatec build costs around 1000 Eur (CSL DD 8nm+Wrc wheel+pedals with lc and metal QR). Would u offer some advice?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind Fanatec is compatible with more games as well if you play a huge list of racing games. Most of the big titles are supported of course.

@user-fv6gt6wt4d

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson Mostly rally games as I love Dirt, but ACC, F1 and might venture into iRacing at some point. How would you compare simagic wheels to fanatec ones, are they worth the price premium?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

If you do rally, the Cammus or Fanatec will serve you well. The Simagic is probably the best feeling for the power range it sits in but it's just held back by the wheel mounting options honestly...

@user-fv6gt6wt4d

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson Can't you just use their optional QR, or any other NRG type QR for all wheels?

Hey! Nice video, could you answer me two question. 1) is the cammus compatible with f1 21? 2) you said that small details are hard to feel on the cammus, what actually can't be felt with the cammus wheelbase?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I call it "noise" almost like static on a TV but through your hands. That is harder to feel, the ffb feels more rounded (in a pleasant way).

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Also, I'm not sure about that game but I think it is. I have requested Cammus compile a "compatible games" list for the website. They are working on it. :)

@Gordendo

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson thank you For the quick reply, i'm planning to upgrade from a csw v2.5 to a direct drive wheel and this looks promising only issue that i have with it that there are no costumer reviews on it which would help with the decision.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Ask me anything :)

Just curious, would you be able to hook up a fanatec clubsport or any other shifter to the base. Considering buying one myself

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I tried, it didnt work, it fit though

Hey Doug, posted on one of your other videos, but just updating that I finally received my CSL DD and Clubsport V3's. I went ahead and put the curved/raised faces on, black spring on clutch and throttle, red/green on the brake pedal, and damper on the throttle. Order my stuff in September, only just arrived about a month ago LOL the industry I work in is the same so I understand. Now I'm just waiting on the updated Trak Racer Fanatec DD mount. What forums do you recommend as good resource/community?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

You looking for setup suggestions? Ffb and such?

@dingusmagee3326

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson not necessarily, but would probably be appreciated. Just wanted to know a good community forum to ask questions and for suggestions when I need them. I probably won't have my rig running for a few more weeks so don't really need setup suggestions just yet.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@dingusmagee3326 I'm sure there are some forums on Reddit. Fanatec has a forum as well but Fanatec themselves rarely comment or help people. You can always post on here and I will do my best to help you. ;)

@dingusmagee3326

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson cool cool. In regards to setting the pedal height, would you recommend it be even with the bottom of my seat?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

This is dependent on the type of racing you do most and your own personal preference. I like mine similar to my real car. Perhaps just measure your daily driver and have that be a starting point?

So what is best for GT3 racing? I dont want to dump more then 1000$ on pedals base and GT3 type of wheel. Any suggestions? Really nice comparison video.

@DouglasThompson

Ай бұрын

If you're looking at a full set Ruoveden, wheel/base, pedals, etc. Prepare to pay around 1k.

@user-bp9oj5ly1k

Ай бұрын

@@DouglasThompson uh. any suggestion on the base pedals and wheel?

@DouglasThompson

Ай бұрын

@user-bp9oj5ly1k any direct drive wheelbase within your chosen budget will be able to handle gt3 style racing. The fanatec bundle will be fine for you, the cammus 15nm bundle with lc100 pedals will be the best bang for your buck. Moza also makes a nice entry level bundle but pedal-wise, you won't find better than what cammus offers for the money and that will do more for your driving than a wheelbase because they are all capable of high fidelity ffb.

I love you man, when it comes to reviews it just feels like you actually mean everything you say and it hasn't been pushed by those companies for you to say that and that. On the other hand I feel like you have a biased inclination to Cammus, but maybe that's just me (I say that because for example, you said cammus has buttons on the wheel and its and advantage, well for me that's not an advantage because you wouldn't be able to reach behind the wheel while driving or you rated it 2nd on looks, let's be honest the fanatec is smaller and more compact, cammus looks like a big box but of course those are personal prefferences). The review is still great and loving this type of content on your channel.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I can see your point. I look at it like this If you drift or play rally, you don't need paddle shifters or a button box on your wheel, you can still use the buttons on the base to navigate game menus without having to get your keyboard or mouse. This is especially important in VR to have something hard mounted so your hand always know where to go as it's very annoying to take a headset off just to find a certain key on a keyboard. ;) I have also successfully used the wheelbase buttons in game as well, even a simple function like "ignition" in beamng feels cool to use the wheelbase buttons for. Keep in mind this is my personal experience with the units and I also don't race much outside of rally so my perspective is geared that way. :) Thank you for the comment!

@laur.an01

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson To be fair. I can see the good side of it as well. Like you can even get a wheel with no electronics, just the cammus base and attach it to that and just use the base buttons. I see what they aiming for. They're trying to give the fairest offer.

@richardthompson7611

2 жыл бұрын

"when it comes to reviews it just feels like you actually mean everything you say"... Take my word for it, he does mean everything he says... He's into it 100%!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardthompson7611 Thank you! :)

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@laur.an01 :)

Do you think high power could help build arm back streanth I understand people seem to be saying the lower power newer DD have more detail sharpness but I'm more interested in running unrealistic power and using it like yoga or gym slowly turning it up maybe I have a mid back non degrading back issue do you think sorta area between arm and spine could get stronger with it it's only on one side so I could be gentle on it obviously will ask a doctor and personal trainer advice also so please don't worry have a great day

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

let me answer you by saying this. I got into sim racing to recover my left shoulder after surgery so I could know when ai could safely drive my car again. ;)

I always tought i wanted the csl dd.(driving logicrap g923 now) but after many revieuws i think the 10nm simmagic is better. I like the eco system fanatec has so many wheels and such. But even the spare amount of wheels simmagic has are waaay better quality than 90 procent of fanatec wheels. The cammus sounds afwesome with the 15nm but i think i prefer more detail over more nm. But as i am just starting simracing its al to find out

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong with any of them but if detail is what you're after, you will find it with the simagic. :)

Maybe you can comment. I was thinking of combining the Cammus with the XF1 Sport. But their website does not mention Cammus for compatibility. What QR do I need for it to work?

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

What is the xf1 sport?

Which one can I drift easier with? Moza simagic t300

@DouglasThompson

Ай бұрын

Not sure, I'm sure anything dd above 5nm will serve you well though.

@BeroTTo

Ай бұрын

@@DouglasThompson thanx

Do you think you'd be able to suggest to Cammus that they sell their QR/button box as a standalone hub without a rim for people who want to BYOR?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Already have, it's on the table. I'm not sure if/when its going to be available but I have told them they should offer the button box as a standalone device for like 100 dollars or something.

@johnz6877

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson You're doing God's work my man!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

:)

Cammus is way too big and for me and the buttons are in the wrong place. But it is always good to see more competition.

@DouglasThompson

3 ай бұрын

Oh yes indeed, Cammus now has the smallest 12nm wheelbase on the market though. ;)

I'm assuming all 3 are compatible with the card board wheel. Right?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. Its one of the best features!

Hey bud. Great vids. Do you know if their pedals are shipping?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure they have stock. They are working on the revised model. Not sure if they sold out of V1's yet.

@davenazemoto9788

2 жыл бұрын

Subbed. Thanks!!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@davenazemoto9788 Thank you!!! also, I will be reviewing the V2's as soon as they are ready. ;) along with the hall effect sensor sequential and load cell handbrake!

Hi, I receive my DD snub on February 15 and with hindsight what do you think of it?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

What is the DD snub?

I have reached out to CAMMUS to inquire about purchasing their product.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Make sure and mention my name and you will get money off if you decide to go for it. ;)

Cammus is not 500, when you have a tag of $200 for shipping plus you also have to pay them paypal fees too on top of it

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Shipping is really a problem it's heavy and international shipping is not cheap...they are working on a solution for this though. :)

@favs970

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same, when considering the prices the shipping costs should be mentioned for all bases..

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@favs970 the thing is, depending on where you are in the world the prices are different. Fanatec actually refuses to ship to some parts of the world and I don't know how much Simagic is in Europe and such. It adds a layer of complexity that is confusing to the viewer so that's why I didn't factor that in. :;)

Hows the cammus on iracing if u play it i seen in another review the alpha mini referred to as notchy in the middle . Great review tho subbed!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Hey man, unfortunately I don't play Iracing mostly due to my disapproval of their subscription model. My apologies I can't help you with your question but I refuse to back a game that is set up this way. I hope you understand. :)

@deathofthe-ego8454

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson nah I totally get it I'm super iffy on it myself still thanks for the fast reply 🍻

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathofthe-ego8454 ya man

Make videoLook inside cammus wheel base

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps in the future. ;)

What pedals does the cammus support for example can I use thrustmaster pedals on the cammus or does it only support their own pedals

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

If you are speaking of connecting pedals straight to the wheelbase, yes only Cammus pedals will work.

what wheel size pattern do i need to bolt directly to the alpha mini without adapter?

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

50mm

Now try with the clusport dd and dd+ lol. Big difference and more equal to a comparison. Tbh after using these idk i cant put cammus higher for ffb detail but the forces of course will not be more on the simagic and cammus. Since its only 5-8nm. But the dd and dd+ the new ones are so so good. Its smashing my 15nm simagic and it reminds me of the simucube sport with even faster ffb. 6.2nm/ms compsred to 4.2nm/ms from the pro and sport simucube. The ultimate is 9nm/ms but testing has shown around 6.3nm/ms also. The jump fanatec has made with the new clubsport dd and dd+ is pretty damn incredible.

@DouglasThompson

3 ай бұрын

Definitely would love too but this is more based on price. :) this was also when the csl dd was more expensive.

I have a T300 steering wheel, I drift easily. I wonder if I would drift easier or harder if I bought this product?

@DouglasThompson

Ай бұрын

All products will allow you to drift, there are profiles from each company.

So do the simagic wheels fit, power and communicate with the cammus wheelbase? Looks like similar connections...

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

No they don't, I tried. Well they fit, yes but the buttons don't work.

@MrSwiftResponse

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson OK, good to know. Thanks for the feedback man, keep up the good work!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you much! Will have some new gear to review in the coming weeks! ;)

Are we going to see the Moza R9 vs Simagic Alpha Mini?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I reached out to maza but they haven't responded more than the initial time but that was months ago. If you want me to review it and compare it against the wheelbases that I own and have owned write them an email please. :)

How does the small FFB details from the belt driven CSL Elite compare to the Cammus? As Cam has the worst score in the small FFB department and I never touched a direct drive system.

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

Much better than a belt driven system.

@catnipherb

Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson thank you!

Would it be possible to mount the Simagic Alpha mini on a normal PC desk, as the Fanatec CSL DD?

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

With a drill yes

I really like the Cammus price and features (buttons in particular), but it seems too big for my liking, so I´m kind of on the fence about it, the Simagic or the Moza R9.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Send me a pic of your setup and I'll let you know if it would work for you. Keep in mind the reason I didn't like the size was because I run full motion otherwise it doesn't matter, you can simply mount it further back and you won't notice the size at all. ;)

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

demureg@gmail.com

@javiercabanas2908

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson I use a GT Omega Classic Wheel Stand that I slip into my gaming desk when I use it, it´s not the sturdiest of stands, and mounting real state isn´t really generous, I know a Moza R9 would fit in the predrilled holes and is low profiled enough that I can keep fitting it in my current space. It´s not very fancy, and not knowing the mounting bolt patter of the Cammus (I can´t find it anywhere online), makes me doubt If it would be possible to add it on my setup. But damn, I love NRG QR´s.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I can do my best to measure it for you please remind me later if you would. I'll try to remember

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I can do my best to measure it for you please remind me later if you would. I'll try to remember

What platforms do they all work on? I understand fanatec is PC Xbox and Playstation but what of the other 2

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Only pc

Hi there! Do you know if the simagic quick release fits well on the Cammus wheel base without modification? Thanks!

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

No, it doesn't actually, I thought it did, but there is a difference

@matthieucharest9005

Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson thank you!

Simagic and cammus really need to step up into the console market

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

that would be amazing but I think Fanatec has that locked down tight.

That's a pretty expensive drum set you've got there. The tuning is surprisingly good though.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I play in drop D.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Or drop DD if you want to get specific. ;)

The cammus looks like a mini welder lol

How do you buy cammus? Lol I can't figure out their website

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

windbooster.com or the new cammus.com site use "doug" for a discount ;)

You get a subscribe for being a Subaru guy!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I have quite a few vids of my outings in my WRX's if you are interested! Also going out tomorrow to grab some new footage. ;)

@DeweyWRX

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson I'm always down for Subaru content. I work at IAG so it's kind of my life.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeweyWRX Nice! we got some cool footage yesterday actually, Ill try to get it done tonight if possible.

To summarize - FINAL SCORE: #1 - CAMMUS: 334,060 points #2 - ALPHA MINI: 289,654 points #3 - CSL DD: 27 points 😃😁 😂

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Any way of getting one of those Cammus bundles from a US dealer? I'm really interested in picking one those up, but that $200 dollar shipping is brutal.

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

I am the US dealer now...lol

@Shake_nBake805

Жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson Oh cool! Where can I go to purchase it?

@DouglasThompson

Жыл бұрын

@@Shake_nBake805 email me at demureg@gmail.com

You forgot to add up the points in the description.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

Whoops I'll do that now.

Yeah this is making me regret getting a CSL DD. I could've got an early bird Alpha Mini + GT1-R for the same price as CSL DD + Boost kit + WRC wheel, but my dumbass decided not to. The CSL DD isn't _bad,_ it just isn't very impressive either. Not enough torque, notchy motor, pathetic end stop, terrible QR, loads of driver issues, and oscillation. It's a step up over my old T500RS for sure, but not as much as I expected.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't feel my unit was notchy, do you mean when the unit was off or while in game?

@willwastaken

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson It's notchy all the time, regardless of what I'm doing or if it's off

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@willwastaken That's crazy...I'm sorry you are experiencing that. Mine felt smooth to me, moreso than the DD1. The Cammus feels smoother than both and the alpha mini felt pretty smooth as well.

@willwastaken

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson I'm not really sure what I should do at the moment. Part of me wants to just get rid of it immediately, but I don't think I'll do that since I just got it. I'll probably end up keeping it for the duration of the warranty and then consider upgrading again. What do you think?

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to sell it, now is the time to maximize the amount you will get back. With all the preorder bull you might even make a profit... I usually use eBay and start a bid at 99 cents no reserve that way I don't feel I'm taking advantage, sometimes I come out ahead most times I lose money but either way I don't feel bad for price gouging because what someone bids is what they feel it's worth. That's how I look at things at least. To ease your mind, if you haven't experienced other DD wheelbases, you won't notice that much difference. There are better values out there but one thing Fanatec really has going for them is game support. It's unmatched from my experience, there hasn't been a single game I've heard about or played that didn't work with my Fanatec gear....well except dirt rally 1 on console, the podium DD1 ps version is not compatible with that game, only on console though...and the CSL elite is compatible with that game on console... really strange. When I brought that to their attention, the shrugged it off...I was a bit upset with how they handled that but at the end of the day, it's the main reason I decided to finally build a PC and have no limits as to what I can use or play Sim-racing wise. ;)

Can you put up the Link for the quick release? Thanks

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

yes indeed, I will find it for you.

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

www.amazon.com/dp/B09GVPSDNZ/ref=emc_b_5_mob_i different color but they are out of red

@BIGSHUNN

2 жыл бұрын

@@DouglasThompson ... Thanks!!! I Appreciate that!!!

@DouglasThompson

2 жыл бұрын

@@BIGSHUNN ya man! They feel great! Let me know how you like it!